Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #94

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George Davis?
No. A different George from Indiana. I'm a big fan. We'll call him "George W," or W for short.

W* said that Barry thinks he is a really good liar and he is not. Barry is the kind of person that will just stand there and "tell you something you know damn well is not true." W* would often just listen and not contradict because he just did not want the conflict with Barry.

W* sent Barry a series of texts on September 23, 2020, accusing Barry of killing Suzanne and telling Barry he would rot in hell.
 
  • #584
Agree with you, but who was that friend of Barry's?

JMO
There were two as I recall and they’re in the AA. TS was not one of those although he did post to the Suzanne Morphew missing page today or maybe yesterday in defense of Barry. Unfortunately I can’t link but there was also the guy who offered Barry his neighbor’s (also a lawyer) business card whom Barry never contacted after Barry telling the guy he didn’t think he would pass a lie detector test. IMO
 
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So what was he really doing?????

He drove 14 miles.... and like a half hour is missing from the morning before his phone came out of airplane mode and his travel was picked back up by CCTV ...

If his window was open and stayed open...

Discarding other evidence?

Checking on something?

Passing something off to someone?

Who might've been within 6 miles of PP that morning?

He purposefully left his phone in airplane mode so it must've been really important -- a decision he made before turning left.

Where did he go???????

JMO

Do we know if the Monarch Campground was ever searched? It's right below the resort but the entrance is east a bit on 50, it fits that mileage. There is river access there with an access road back to the quarry/mine. Is there anywhere that lists the areas that were searched?
 
  • #586
AA pg 57. George W.

ETA: They first met in 1998-99.
OMgosh! Thank you for this! I kept trying to search for “Barry lies” or “Friend says Barry lies a lot” or “Barry lies about everything” or “We all just put up with Barry’s lies”; I was inundated with other results of his lies.
 
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OMgosh! Thank you for this! I kept trying to search for “Barry lies” or “Friend says Barry lies a lot” or “Barry lies about everything” or “We all just put up with Barry’s lies”; I was inundated with other results of his lies.
I did the same! I can't take credit -- @MassGuy educated me (again) searching "not true."
 
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"One person with a critical mind who isn't comfortable sending a man to prison for the rest of his life with the prosecution's speculation is a problem for the prosecution."

Not quite. I'd argue "one person ignoring facts, lies, and common sense, is a problem for the prosecution."

It is a fact that Suzanne's footprint ceased when Barry returned home.

It is a fact that Barry's cell phone and truck data show activity when he claimed to be sleeping.

It is a fact that Suzanne's last ping occurred during a time when he had access to her phone.

It is a fact that Barry lied about the state of their marriage, and deleted texts that would have proven this lie.

It is a fact that Barry puts himself driving past the location of the helmet.

It is a fact that Barry lied about what he did in Broomfield, and where he was when he got that phone call.

It is a fact that Barry told dozens of lies, and changed his story.

There are gaps and things that will forever remain unanswered.

For me however, the "who" and the "what" couldn't possibly be more clear.

Barry murdered Suzanne.

Therefore, to the Jury and Your Honor, we rest our case.

I can't help but think Suzanne's smiling with deep gratitude when posts like that one is made. Makes me feel humbled to be here. I cannot express how fortunate I feel to be on this thread with so many impressive geniuses. You guys are top notch. Not only do you bring the evidence when needed but you bring the humor to lighten our load. Big, huge thanks to all of you.
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OMgosh! Thank you for this! I kept trying to search for “Barry lies” or “Friend says Barry lies a lot” or “Barry lies about everything” or “We all just put up with Barry’s lies”; I was inundated with other results of his lies.
Therein lies Barry's problem; all those lies.
 
  • #591
Has anyone read anywhere that BM had a dashcam? You know, to record herds of elk and such?
 
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Has anyone read anywhere that BM had a dashcam? You know, to record herds of elk and such?
I haven’t seen proof of it but this is an excellent suggestion. IMO it is certainly up Barry’s alley and well within the realm of possibility.
 
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I’m no expert but I have tried googling to find if a tranquilizer dart could be fired from a firearm chambered for .22 and was not able to find any. I did find places that talked about shooting a dart from a 22 air rifle, but that is different.

I vaguely remember somewhere in these many threads that Grousing admitted to being mistaken about the dart being able to shoot through BMs chipmunk gun. I can’t find it though so could be wrong.

Can any one here find a link showing that a 22 firearm can shoot a tranquilizer dart, besides Grousing’s testimony?

I assume there will be expert testimony to prove this point.

With the 22s I have experience with, you could not chamber the dart as it would not fit in the magazine. BM's .22 appears to be an old and simple rifle, so perhaps you simply load the dart directly into the chamber.
 
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Not to pick nits (ok maybe a little nit picking), but Grousing testified (from your quote) that a 22 cartridge would fire, not that a 22 firearm could shoot the dart. Again all IMO, I’ve read that some darts use a 22 blank cartridge to provide the propulsion to a dart, but you aren’t using a 22 caliber firearm to shoot the dart, but a specially designed dart gun.

In any case it might all be a red herring, as IMO the case will rely on electronic forensics vs BM’s lies.

edit added, and yes, per the TOS op should link to the experts or state it is opinion.

I also have this exact question. It wasn't clear to me what was being said there.
 
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This is precisely why BM's lie about shooting deer with tranquilizer darts just a few weeks before, is so big.

In order for him to do that, he had to have a weapon that fired those projectiles. So if it's not the "chipmunk gun," and it's not that apparently inoperable dart gun they found, then what did he use?

Barry tells us that such a weapon exists, so if it hasn't been located, then that looks really bad.

The beauty is the defense claiming "he didn't even have a working dart gun," is rendered moot by Barry's own words.

Whoops.

I made this exact same point about a week ago.

One of Barry's guns must fire darts, according to his own statements to explain the dart recovered inside (Barry did not yet know it was the cap found in the washing machine).

It is a significant problem for the defence, that no such working gun was discovered, nor payload for it.

To my mind the critical issue is not which gun fired the dart (if indeed any dart was fired), but that the accused sought to obscure this critical issue, and admitted to dumping tranq materials on the very day the victim went missing.
 
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I went back and reviewed LS's summary of the 01FEB2022 hearing to determine the origins of the information about Agent Cahill being removed from the case after the PH because of his testimony at the PH.

I was wrong! It does not appear to be based on testimony. It did appear to happen while Agent Cahill was on the stand on 01FEB2022.

However, it was one of the attorneys that commented that Agent Cahill had been removed from the case after the preliminary hearing and The DA was not happy about his testimony in the PH.

It was the assistant DA handling the case at the hearing who made the comment and introduced this information.

Not good....IMO!
 
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No, they haven't.

Experts have said that you CAN fire those particular darts from a .22.

Here's Grusing on the stand:
A Grusing: So when Agent Harris and I, through our process of speaking with Mr. Morphew we were disclosing parts of our evidence with him to figure out what happened to Suzanne. I did disclose to him that it looked like his cell phone from 2:44 to 2:47 was moving around outside of the house. I believe this was the February 28th interview.

He says, “I shoot chipmunks.” I said well tell me what that means. He goes I’m running around the house shooting chipmunks. And I’m paraphrasing at this time because it’s a back and forth. He said, “I’ve shot 85 chipmunks.”

I asked him if he used a .22 caliber. At that point I had known — and I had not disclosed to Mr. Morphew yet that we found a tranquilizer dart cap in the dryer and I knew from Chaffee county that a .22 cartridge would fire. So when he was talking about running around the outside of the house I asked him if it was a .22 that he used and he said yes, it was.

Shall we go on with Barry and the tranq darts. Let's:

Barry said, “I shoo–, I shoot chipmunks.”

SA Grusing asked, “You shoot chipmunks?”

Barry said, “Yeah.”

SA Grusing said it looks like he was chasing one.

Barry said, “Yeah, I was, I’ve shot 85 chipmunks because they got into my furnace and cost me a bunch of money. So, when I’m home … ”

SA Grusing interrupted and asked if he used a .22, and Barry replied, “Twenty-two. So, when I’m home I just walk around and shoot ’em. Just keep going around the house.” (Barry made circular motions with his right arm.) He said, “Everytime I go around the house, I’ll see another and I’ll shoot it.”

SA Grusing told Barry that activity would explain his phone’s behavior, adding that he left his driver door open in the garage before he went to the first patio. Barry said, “Mhhmhh,” and said,

“Yeah, shootin’,” while nodding his head during the description of movement. He added, “No, I’m shootin’ chipmunks. I’ve done that ever since we’ve moved in.”

SA Grusing asked Barry if he remembered doing it that day. He nodded his head and said, “Mhhmhh, oh yeah.”

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SA Grusing asked Barry what happened next. He shook his head and said, “I don’t recall.”
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(Barry Morphew Interview – February 29, 2021)

While SA Grusing and SA Harris were parked about one block away from Barry’s condo, Barry drove his truck beside the Agents’ car at about 5:03PM and handed a weathered .22 caliber altered rifle with a newly mounted rifle scope to Agents. Barry said that was the gun he used to shoot the chipmunk and he had to leave to workout at the gym.
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Barry said, “And I gave you my gun. That’s my chipmunk gun. They didn’t even take it.”

SA Grusing said the gun did not appear to have been fired in a long time.

Barry said, “Yeah it has.” He added, “I’m just telling you right now that if I was guilty, I wouldn’t hand over weapons to you guys.”

SA Grusing said Barry’s movements that afternoon, to include the truck door opening, him running from porch to porch and Suzanne not answering texts from her lover look different from investigators’ perspectives.

Barry stated, “I explained that. I mean, there’s, I mean, you can ask anybody that knows me- I’ve sh–, I’ve killed 85 chipmunks at my house. That’s all I do, I mean I can’t sit still. I’m a worker. I’m a busy bee. That’s what I was doing that day.”

SA Grusing asked Barry for permission to ask another question about the chipmunk thing, and Barry said, “Yeah.”

SA Grusing said from 2:44PM to 2:47PM, Barry is going to the porches. Barry said, “Mhhmhh.” SA

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Grusing said at 2:47PM, Barry’s phone went into airplane mode. SA Grusing asked Barry if he placed the phone in airplane mode.

Barry asked, “I don’t, where was, Was it on me? Or was it on the kitchen or what?” SA Grusing said the phone movement was how Agents knew Barry was moving around. Barry said, “Oh, because it was on me?”
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Barry asked for more information about the lover and SA Grusing told Barry he was not cleared as a suspect and would have to be cleared before knowing such things and getting guns back.

Barry said, “I would agree with that, but there’s not one gun in that safe that’s been fired for months.” He added, “The only thing I’ve fired is my chipmunk gun and I guarantee you I fired that, even, be-, even after Suzanne went missing.” Barry confirmed that was the gun he gave Agents.
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SA Grusing said Agents tried to find Barry chasing the chipmunks on the cameras recovered and could not. He said, “well, I don’t think any cameras were there. They were in the safe.” He added, “Everything was in the safe, they took everything from the safe.”

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SA Grusing asked Barry how he knew the chipmunk was outside to chase it that day, and he said, “Oh, they’re always out there. That’s just what I do. I mean, I’ve shot 85 chipmunks at my house. And when I’m bored, I shoot chipmunks.”

SA Grusing said, “Right,” and asked if the chipmunk gun was in the car or truck with him and he said he did not remember.

SA Grusing noted from the evidence it appeared Barry made it from the garage to the porch in seven seconds and asked Barry if he remembered where the gun was.

Barry stated, “I don’t recall. It coulda been in the truck. It might’ve been, but I don’t recall.”

SA Grusing asked if the scope was mounted on the gun at the time and Barry said, “Yeah,” nodding his head.

S Grusing asked Barry what he did with the chipmunk after he killed it and he said he either threw it up on the hill, where the crows come and get them, or down by the river.
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Barry was asked the last time he saw or heard Suzanne prior to that, and he said, “Just probably before we went to sleep. After we had sex.” SA Grusing asked what happened before that, and Barry said, “Before that we had dinner.” When asked where he sat, Barry said, “At the bar.”

Barry was asked what he ate and what she ate. He said, “Uh, we split a steak ’cause she never eats a full meal.”

When SA Grusing asked what else he or she ate, Barry said, “I don’t recall.”

SA Grusing asked, “Before that?” Barry said, “Before that, I think um, it had to be when I got home from doing my bobcat with Crib. And she was outside, laying out in the sun.”

He added, “I think I sat out there with her. I don’t know if that’s when I did the chipmunks or, when the, did the chipmunks before I went to Crib, I don’t recall (unintelligible- UI).”76

SA Grusing said because of Barry’s phone activity, the chipmunks would have occurred after the Crib trip.

Barry stated, “Ok, then the chipmunks, she was layin’ out, I was lookin’- I probably went to sit with her while she was laying out, seen a chipmunk and got my gun and shot the chipmunk.”
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(Barry Interview – May 28th)
On May 28, 2020, CBI Agent Cahill and Agent Derek Graham interviewed Barry and audio recorded the interview.

Barry was asked about the tranquilizer darts in his house. He stated that the darts’ purpose was to tranquilize bucks to sell them. He said the bucks could then be placed in a trailer that has cubicles. The tranquilizer is a sedative/narcotic and he only did this “tranqing” and selling of bucks back in Indiana. Barry said he has not used the tranquilizer or darts in Colorado.32
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Barry replied, “And I, I have shot, and again I have told you I don’t want to get in trouble with the DNR,” SA Grusing inserted he was not. Barry continued, “I’m tellin’ you, I’m telllin’ you right now I’ve shot two deer with my tranq gun, ’cause I used to raise deer, and I collect horns, and I’ll tell you exactly what I did.”

He continued, “They’re in the yard. They’re in the yard. I shoot ’em, they go to sleep. I cut their horns off, and I wake ’em up, and they go off with no horns on their head, and I cut their horns.”

SA Grusing said Barry’s friends in Indiana talked about that and he replied, “And, and it’s totally illegal. And, so I’m not gonna share that with the DNR, the way they are, and (exhale), they come arrest me. So, things like that, in my head, ‘What should I say?’ And nobody even asked me about that tranq dart, but you’re gonna find tranq darts around my property because I’ve done that.”
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SA Grusing said the evidence of the tranq dart was found inside the house. Barry replied, “Yeah, or I, I’ve shot deer from that little breezeway from between the garage and the laundry room, out that back door.”75

SA Grusing asked about the back door and Barry said, “The back door is outside the kitchen window where the bird, uh, bath is. Yeah, yeah, if there was a tranq dart out there or outside or in the house it’s from me shootin’ deer.”
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(Discussion of Exhibit 19)
Barry was shown photos of the dart boxes recovered from the search and asked if he recalled what all areas around the house he fired them.

He replied, “No, I don’t. I know I have fired from the breezeway before and I’ve fired them from the garage at deer that were up on the hill behind the rock wall.” (See Attachment 5)

Barry was asked if he ever missed a shot and he said, “A deer? Oh no.” He continued, “No, I used to raise deer, I’ve shot hundreds.”

SA Grusing asked if it was ever fired in the house.

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Barry said, “Only if it was open in that door in that breezeway. But, not, not inside the house.”
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In case anyone missed Barry's super secret code, Suzanne is the chipmunk.

Did Grusing or anyone else say anything more specific about the .22 being able to fire the Tranq darts?

Sorry to ask - but I was not around for the PH, and can't invest the time to wade through the YouTube videos of the hearing - so I was wondering if you could direct me to where that issue was discussed?
 
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Again, BM changed his story to match evidence after learning a dart sleeve was located in his clothes dryer.

RSBM

It was actually worse than this.

Barry allowed for the possibility of a dart being found in the house. He didn't know at the time what exactly they had found (used/unused etc)
 
  • #599
I totally agree with this. There was no reason for BM to incriminate himself over and over again with all his contradictions. All he had to do was say I want a lawyer or refuse to talk at all. But instead he talked and changed his story every time LE said evidence shows it didn’t happen the way you said it did.

I have trouble understanding how a person could kill and disappear their spouse with no physical crime scene evidence, which would seem to take some sort of brains. Yet, still be so dumb as to to talk to LE every time they wanted, never lawyer up, never say I’m done talking, keep changing his story…

Can anyone who has listen to or read true crime possibly be so dumb, yet hide the crime scene and body so well neither is found? It kind of boggles my mind.

I think it's simply that killing SM in a clinical way fell neatly within BMs skill set, and he had direct access to extensive wilderness.

But that's the easier part.

He failed utterly at the alibi, staging etc which is the hard part.
 
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