Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #95

[mrjitty]

She may not have been a techie, but she wasn't afraid to change the default settings on her devices.

RSBM

Agreed. Indeed the fact that she has to tell JL she has moved over to WA indicates that they have notifications turned off for that app, and have to manually check for messages.

I suspect she had other precautions within WA - e.g did she delete all her messages from him and delete him from contacts every time?

 

[FromGermany1]

Thought the same as you when I read JLs how's the weather message being code, as in...is Barry around?
He knew exactly how the weather was.
They'd been texting all day and the LPOL photo shows her in a bikini.

Maybe, JL wanted to express "Your (body) "weather" looks nice, and that was an agreed paraphrase?

 

[MassGuy]

No, I don't think BM saw things on SM's side.

He didn't access/hack her apps.

I think SM engaged in flagrante delicto inside the privacy of her closet where BM captured her on his spy camera.

The box and manual were located inside BM's bathroom drawer, but the camera missing.

I believe he planted the camera around the date he received SM's "I'm done text."

It had not been there long. MOO

I can't find the SG 11 model on Google, but I can find the SQ11. Assuming they are the same thing, this is not something Barry would ever use as a game camera, as he claimed.

After Barry's shotgun escapade during Andy's search in which he was installing game cameras, I got the idea to buy one myself, here's a coyote it captured (Thanks Barry).

They are weather resistant, and way more effective than some tiny 30 dollar device.

That (sq11 or whatever) is absolutely a spy camera, and he would have purchased it as such. He had no shortage of game cameras, and he would never use something like that tiny little thing for that purpose.

He also claimed to not recall when he purchased it, as Grusing was trying to date it around the time of Suzanne's disappearance.

As we know by now, "I don't recall" is a lie. I have little doubt that camera was in use prior to Suzanne's disappearance, and I would bet money that it captured things that enraged him that week.

If not the very day in question.

 

[marylamby]

^^rsbm

I dunno....

We're looking at about a 3-4 min exchange where JL sends the 'get naked' suggestion in a playful, Lol context.

SM responds suggesting she's loading up WA, and JL replies he has to check on his kids, does not commit.

It appears that their communication ends around 2:11 pm-- which coincidentally coincides with the same time that SM sends JL her bikini photo.

I believe both the state and the defense agree that SM's final, proof of life message occurred at 2:11 pm.

I don't see the above as definitive that JL participated in video sex but I do see that SM's already loaded up WA (or was committed to), she was already nearly naked, and alone, so I think it's more likely that SM made a self-video for JL.

IMO, this best explains JL's hesitancy in responding to the FBI whether or not he got on WA because he did not want to tell investigators that SM sent him a sex video.

IMO, JL has not wanted to be the source of anything that might be perceived as negative about SM, period.

So I agree there was most likely a sex video, I just don't agree that JL necessarily participated by getting naked himself.

I honestly don't get the jump to a sex video. Not that I'd have a problem with that but really?
There's a difference between sending or recording something sexy and a sex video. We don't even have any evidence that anything else transpired between them, regardless of the app or whatever mode of communication, at that point.

ETA: IIRC, Suzanne's communication stopped right after she said she'd switch to WA, do I have that correct? How and why would anyone create a scenario after that?

 

[Kemug]

IMO, this best explains JL's hesitancy in responding to the FBI whether or not he got on WA because he did not want to tell investigators that SM sent him a sex video.

IMO, JL has not wanted to be the source of anything that might be perceived as negative about SM, period.

Well, that makes a nice change from BM anyway.

 

[Cindizzi]

I can't find the SG 11 model on Google, but I can find the SQ11. Assuming they are the same thing, this is not something Barry would ever use as a game camera, as he claimed.

After Barry's shotgun escapade during Andy's search in which he was installing game cameras, I got the idea to buy one myself, here's a coyote it captured (Thanks Barry).
View attachment 334379
They are weather resistant, and way more effective than some tiny 30 dollar device.

That (sq11 or whatever) is absolutely a spy camera, and he would have purchased it as such. He had no shortage of game cameras, and he would never use something like that tiny little thing for that purpose.

He also claimed to not recall when he purchased it, as Grusing was trying to date it around the time of Suzanne's disappearance.

As we know by now, "I don't recall" is a lie. I have little doubt that camera was in use prior to Suzanne's disappearance, and I would bet money that it captured things that enraged him that week.

If not the very day in question.

Nice pic of the coyote! Much fluffier than the skinny ole mongrels I see around my house in Colorado ( through binoculars of course). Yikes I hate hearing them howl at night.

Yeah, BM with a tranquilizer gun “ oh hell yeah I know how to use it on deer. Can I reverse it ? Absolutely! Do I ever miss.? Never!”

BM with his Bobcat “ Can I pound that pin back in by myself? Absolutely!”

BM with a little spy camera “ Yeah, I don’t think I ever got it work”.

BM with the home security cameras “ I could never get them to work. I’m pretty sure they never worked”.
Yeah, right.

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

Had they communicated after 2.11pm by WA video there might still be artefacts of this e.g. increased data use from streaming on the Morphew router.

I suspect SM just waited for him to call, which he subsequently did, but she didn't pick up, so he switched back to LI

Testimony on this will be extremely interesting.

AA, pg 19/131

Under search warrant, Investigators collected the following data from JL's phone/apps including LI, WA:

1. From Linkedln, Libler and Suzanne sent 59 communications to each other on Saturday, May 9th with the last outgoing from Suzanne occurring at 2: 11 PM, when she messaged, "I'm on wa."

Libler sent response messages at 2:39 PM, 2:46 PM and 2:47 PM that Suzanne did not answer. He also sent messages on May 10th and May 11th that were not answered.

Per JL, his response via LI at 2:46 PM-- stating that the weather looked great, was likely in response to the bikini (outdoor) photo SM sent minutes earlier.

The content of JL's other two messages that SM did not respond to was not disclosed in the AA.

I agree with JL that his unanswered response to SM about 15 minutes after she mentioned she was on WA and sent her photo probably means he did not video chat on WA.

From my own review of this exchange via the AA, I have not found any hesitancy in JL's response here. I'm not sure where that inference came from.

It appears after this interview, JL sent Investigators a screenshot of his credit card confirming he was buying deck supplies on May 9, which may also account for some of his time here.

Unlike SM that typically had much time on her own to communicate with JL, I suspect JL was dependent on errands, etc. when he could freely communicate. Given they'd already exchanged 59 messages thus far on Saturday, I don't expect later in the day on Saturday of MDW at his home got any quieter.

 

[Seattle1]

Maybe, maybe not and there's a good possibility (in my mind) since we know he had one, that there were more than one of those little cameras.
If there's one thing I've learned in my life it's that a liar won't ever think another won't lie, a thief can't fathom another wouldn't steal and a cheat will never believe another wouldn't cheat. Ever. And, there's nothing that can ever change that.
It's the nature of the beast.

No doubt BM was capable of more of everything. In this instance, from Grusing testimony, I think the tiny spy camera was so new that BM had not even discarded the packaging yet! He stuffed it inside his bathroom drawer. I think it met its purpose and BM could get rid of it late Saturday/early Sunday like he did SM's body.

 

[Cindizzi]

AA, pg 19/131

Under search warrant, Investigators collected the following data from JL's phone/apps including LI, WA:

1. From Linkedln, Libler and Suzanne sent 59 communications to each other on Saturday, May 9th with the last outgoing from Suzanne occurring at 2: 11 PM, when she messaged, "I'm on wa."

Libler sent response messages at 2:39 PM, 2:46 PM and 2:47 PM that Suzanne did not answer. He also sent messages on May 10th and May 11th that were not answered.

Per JL, his response via LI at 2:46 PM stating that the weather looked great was likely in response to the bikini (outdoor) photo SM sent minutes earlier.

The content of JL's other two messages that SM did not respond to was not disclosed in the AA.

I agree with JL that his unanswered response to SM about 15 minutes after she mentioned she was on WA and sent her photo probably means he did not video chat on WA.

From my own review of this exchange via the AA, I have not found any hesitancy in JL's response here. I'm not sure where that inference came from.

It appears after this interview, JL sent Investigators a screenshot of his credit card confirming he was buying deck supplies on May 9, which may also account for some of his time here.

Unlike SM that typically had much time on her own to communicate with JL, I suspect JL was dependent on errands, etc. when he could freely communicate. Given they'd already exchanged 59 messages thus far on Saturday, I don't expect later in the day on Saturday of MDW at his home got any quieter.

Yes ITA.
And we don’t have a written transcript of this phone interview with Special Agents in December 2020 showing that JL said “ I don’t believe “ or “ I don’t think”.

We have one sentence from the Agent’s report that says:
“ After referencing the LinkedIn messages before and after, JL does not believe they used WhatsApp that time or later that day”.

I think the part about looking at the LI messages is key.
We have no idea what 2 of his messages say.

Not defending JL at all.
Just trying to use critical thinking while putting aside any judgments of his other behavior.
MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Yes ITA.
And we don’t have a written transcript of this phone interview with Special Agents in December 2020 showing that JL said “ I don’t believe “ or “ I don’t think”.

We have one sentence from the Agent’s report that says:
“ After referencing the LinkedIn messages before and after, JL does not believe they used WhatsApp that time or later that day”.

I think the part about looking at the LI messages is key.
We have no idea what 2 of his messages say.

Not defending JL at all.
Just trying to use critical thinking while putting aside any judgments of his other behavior.
MOO

Thank you. @Cindizzi-- I couldn't agree more! This isn't about defending JL but it's also not about making things up about him that are not there. The facts are the facts. Sometimes a pineapple is just a pineapple!

 

[mrjitty]

AA, pg 19/131

Under search warrant, Investigators collected the following data from JL's phone/apps including LI, WA:

1. From Linkedln, Libler and Suzanne sent 59 communications to each other on Saturday, May 9th with the last outgoing from Suzanne occurring at 2: 11 PM, when she messaged, "I'm on wa."

Libler sent response messages at 2:39 PM, 2:46 PM and 2:47 PM that Suzanne did not answer. He also sent messages on May 10th and May 11th that were not answered.

Per JL, his response via LI at 2:46 PM-- stating that the weather looked great, was likely in response to the bikini (outdoor) photo SM sent minutes earlier.

The content of JL's other two messages that SM did not respond to was not disclosed in the AA.

I agree with JL that his unanswered response to SM about 15 minutes after she mentioned she was on WA and sent her photo probably means he did not video chat on WA.

From my own review of this exchange via the AA, I have not found any hesitancy in JL's response here. I'm not sure where that inference came from.

It appears after this interview, JL sent Investigators a screenshot of his credit card confirming he was buying deck supplies on May 9, which may also account for some of his time here.

Unlike SM that typically had much time on her own to communicate with JL, I suspect JL was dependent on errands, etc. when he could freely communicate. Given they'd already exchanged 59 messages thus far on Saturday, I don't expect later in the day on Saturday of MDW at his home got any quieter.

I think one other factor supports your conclusion.

They clearly have to organise between them on LI to switch to WA (notifications turned off we believe).

He replies at 2:39 on LI, so to me that indicates he either missed her on WA (she was offline or didn't answer), or he missed the slot completely.

 

[Warwick7]

Speaking of SM’s closet, after LE showed BM the sunbathing photo they showed him a photo that SM had texted to JL on Saturday morning and asked BM “ is that her closet?” BM said “ yep “.
He probably knew that she took selfies and used her phone in her walk in closet. JMO

Could this be the selfie that sets BM off Saturday morning, when he was with MG and becomes agitated and says he has to go make his wife happy ??

He then asks SM if she wants to go on a hike. (Which I have always wondered if he was going to originally cause her demise on that hike---until he aborted that thought).

 

[MrsWatson]

Could this be the selfie that sets BM off Saturday morning, when he was with MG and becomes agitated and says he has to go make his wife happy ??

He then asks SM if she wants to go on a hike. (Which I have always wondered if he was going to originally cause her demise on that hike---until he aborted that thought).

That could work. He had the plan for the hike, but whatever he saw enrages him to the point that his plan was abandoned?

 

[Megnut]

If Barry was calm enough to stand outside the bedroom door for two minutes, why didn't he pin the lock? (Often the pin sits above the door frame -- to give access -- like if a child gets locked in a room accidentally or emergency personnel need access.)

He took the time. He waited.

If Suzanne still didn't know he was home (didn't hear his truck, didn't hear him moving around and in the house), it seems likely that she was in the shower. Was Barry waiting for the water to shut off?

That camera, motion activated? Sound activated? If it was in the bonus room, perhaps it was set to catch anyone entering the bedroom.

If it had been in the bonus room, did Barry relocate it after Suzanne accused him? Having trouble with it in her closet, only because she might find it.

In a mounted deer head seems more his style. Bedroom, bonus room, living room, kitchen....

He'd already taken his trail cams down. He didn't just redirect them. Didn’t want his tranquilizing recorded? Or didn't want his movements after dark recorded? Too coincidental so he was implementing some plan....

He was back there while Suzanne was communicating with JL. Was Barry aware of that session?

What was Barry doing overnight on Friday? Why was he go agitated at the beachsite the next morning? Why did he cut the day short at 11?

Wasn't Suzanne's first communication to JL well after that?

Or is there more from the morning and we just haven't heard about it?

So many questions still.

JMO

 

[mrjitty]

I can't find the SG 11 model on Google, but I can find the SQ11. Assuming they are the same thing, this is not something Barry would ever use as a game camera, as he claimed.

After Barry's shotgun escapade during Andy's search in which he was installing game cameras, I got the idea to buy one myself, here's a coyote it captured (Thanks Barry).
View attachment 334379
They are weather resistant, and way more effective than some tiny 30 dollar device.

That (sq11 or whatever) is absolutely a spy camera, and he would have purchased it as such. He had no shortage of game cameras, and he would never use something like that tiny little thing for that purpose.

He also claimed to not recall when he purchased it, as Grusing was trying to date it around the time of Suzanne's disappearance.

As we know by now, "I don't recall" is a lie. I have little doubt that camera was in use prior to Suzanne's disappearance, and I would bet money that it captured things that enraged him that week.

If not the very day in question.

SQ11 is a fairly basic camera with motion detection but no remote monitoring.

To see why he captured, he has to manually access the camera and connect to a computer

 

[jakat]

Right !!

But what the heck was she wearing ??

We do not know.

BM said that they had a nice evening, dinner, "Sex" etc

BM said, Suzanne does NOT sleep nude.

BM went to sleep after Sex and left at 5AM and he does not know what his wife is wearing the last time he saw her.

UhmHum Yeppers.... OK BM

So, BM-- what exactly was she wearing the last time you saw her ??

BM description per what he wrote on back of receipt.
Huh Huh... what kind of biking clothing ? what color ??

BM had never been able to answer this question, to my recollection.

I don't think she was wearing anything after she hung up the bathing suit. She was on WhatsApp waiting for JL to join her. He said let's get naked. She did.

JMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Honestly, not one person immediately involved in this case comes out smelling like a rose in my opinion...Maybe Grusing and Speeze, but no one else I can think of off the top of my head. I think early perceptions were based on outward appearances, personal projections and all the bells and whistles of a small town and an upper middle class family...and then it all starts coming out.

 

[FromGermany1]

SQ11 is a fairly basic camera with motion detection but no remote monitoring.

To see why he captured, he has to manually access the camera and connect to a computer

My friend has a doorbell with surveillance and is able, to see her own entrance with the person, who tries zu visit her, on her cell phone. So easy! She is 11 km away from her home, when she has a look on her phone, sitting in my living room, and she then knows, if the post man was there or how the weather is in front of her entrance.

 

[CGray123]

Strangely enough, Prosecutors often have to use 'speculation' when describing their case to the jury. And they will even admit that some of it is based upon speculation.

Sometimes they do not know what the motive was, or exactly how the victim was killed, or even where the body might be.

In spite of that, they are forced to set forth their case in chief, which may sometimes include speculation, in order to fill gaps in the known information.

For example, in the trial of Chase Merritt, who was accused of killing the entire McStay family, the State had to rely upon speculation for some of the main events. The defense called them out for not having solid answers for how one man overpowered the family by himself. And they did not know for certain WHERE or exactly WHEN the murder of Joseph McStay took place. It may have been earlier in the day and before the murders of the wife and boys. They were not sure. So the theory they offered was based upon some speculation.

They did not know how the killer cleaned up the home so thoroughly that the forensics team never found a hint of the 4 murders. Lots of speculation about that and some of it made it into the trial. Sometimes the prosecution does have to speculate and offer it to the jury as a potential explanation. JMO

Thank you! IMO, this is a perfect example that the prosecution need not offer proof of precisely where and when the murder took place, so long as the evidence as a whole convinces the jury that the defendant killed the victims intentionally and after deliberation. To me it's not speculation but inference - The jury doesn't need all the pieces of the mosaic to see the picture.

Also, for the Morphew case, the prosecutor need not prove a precise time and place, according to the Colorado jury instruction (bbm):

3-1:01 MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (AFTER DELIBERATION)
The elements of the crime of murder in the first degree (after deliberation) are:

1. That the defendant,
2. in the State of Colorado, at or about the date and place charged,
3. after deliberation, and
4. with the intent,
5. to cause the death of a person other than himself [herself],
6. caused the death of that person or of another person.

After considering all the evidence, if you decide the prosecution has proven each of the elements beyond a reasonable doubt, you should find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree (after deliberation).

After considering all the evidence, if you decide the prosecution has failed to prove any one or more of the elements beyond a reasonable doubt, you should find the defendant not guilty of murder in the first degree (after deliberation).

 

[FromGermany1]

SQ11 is a fairly basic camera with motion detection but no remote monitoring.

To see why he captured, he has to manually access the camera and connect to a computer

My friend has a doorbell with surveillance (motion activated) and is able, to see her own entrance with the person, who tries zu visit her, on her cell phone. So easy! She is 11 km away from her home, when she has a look on her phone, sitting in my living room, and she knows, if the post man was there or how the weather is in front of her entrance.