Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #96

[Love Never Fails]

RSBBM
Personally, I really don’t see BM as a danger to his daughters in anyway. They can’t get between “him and his money,” because by the time IE and DN are finished with him he won’t have any!

Kidding aside, the girls cannot do to him what Suzanne did - severely bruise his insatiable ego by announcing she was done with him, fall in love with another man and claim half of the assets.

No, he wouldn’t hurt those girls. They feed his ego now. JMHO

He has hurt them and will always do so, with cuts and bruises you will never see. A narcissistic parent is abusive and manipulative. And he loves control. He will forever meddle in their lives, even making their lives and their marriages all about him.
He will use money if he has any. He will use religion. He will threaten suicide. He will try to destroy their marriages and their friendships. He has already done that. He won’t stop. He doesn’t know how. He is one sick, manipulating, controlling, mean tempered murderer.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

It is interesting, but the reality is that you can be a really awful nasty back stabbing coworker or philanderer, a person who embellishes and lies or a dozen other things that are distasteful and not be a murderer. We don't have to "like" Barry at all, jurors don't have to "like" him. The trial is about did he murder his wife...simply thinking he might have because he's an awful person isn't enough. Suzanne doesn't deserve to be murdered either no matter what kind of person she is, but on the other hand the state has an obligation to do the investigation, gather enough evidence admissible at trial, take their case before a judge and jury and put the correct person behind bars....which is going to happen within a very short amount of time if things continue as they have been.

When Barbara Thomas went missing in the California desert a few years ago, her husband gave some very awkward statements to LE and to the media. Some of us were convinced he had killed her. But two years later when her body was found, it now seems clear she simply got lost, and her husband was innocent even though awkward in his statements.

This case is different. If we were judging Barry only by the cringy "Oh, Suzanne" video and on how he likes to park his truck at court to block the sidewalk, then yes I would say even though he's awkward and self-centered, a person can be those things and still not a murderer.

But in this case he has given directly conflicting information, and gone out of his way (quite literally, ha) to do things that make no sense otherwise. I don't even mean the "turning left to follow elk" because as weird as that sounds it might actually be what he did. Even the weird trash drops could be him just being weird Barry.

But there is no explanation for why his truck was being moved around, doors opening and closing in the middle of the night when he insists he was sleeping.

There is no explanation for why Suzanne suddenly stopped all communication with everyone in the middle of the afternoon, never to be heard from again, when according to his claim she was supposedly fine until the next morning.

I don't know how the legal case will play out, what with the various burdens of proof and limits on what is admissible, and I hope justice is done, but I don't see any way he could actually be innocent even if he manages to be **shudder** acquitted.

 

[Cassady]

This is NOT a game.
And not even arguable.
It isn’t about what I want.
He murdered his wife.
The fact that he has good lawyers who know how to USE the laws of our land to set a murderer free, that doesn’t make him any less guilty or them any less culpable.

The fact that in most all litigation, one party "wins" and one party "loses" creates an inherent competition between the litigants and their attorneys.

Criminal cases are slightly different because mixed verdicts could be construed as a win or loss for the state or defendant, depending. Either way, after a jury verdict in a criminal case one party will declare victory in some way.

Like it or not, the U.S system of justice is based on adverserial parties presenting their cases before a court and/or jury in an effort to "win" their case.

Litigation is a high-stakes intellectual game of poker played in the Casino of Justice. If you want to be in the arena, you better know how to play the game, or you will likely get your hat handed to you.

Litigating any high profile case is difficult. Way more difficult then most people would think. You have to do an entire song and dance with the facts, law, rules of evidence, strategy, media, and every other unknown issue that pops up during the case. Add to this most "good litigators" including defense attorneys and prosecutors have many other cases they are dealing with.

At the end of the day, regardless of who they represent, all great litigators are zeolous advocates for their clients who do their best to win the case.

The biggest problem with the U.S. justice system, IMO, especially in the criminal law side, is the lack of quality attorneys for some defendants, especially those that are indigent.

One thing that seems certain in this case is that the defendant is adequatley represented by counsel and thus one of the more common issues on appeal is taken off the table before jury selection even starts...IMO

 

[Aloe]

RSBBM
Personally, I really don’t see BM as a danger to his daughters in anyway. They can’t get between “him and his money,” because by the time IE and DN are finished with him he won’t have any!

Kidding aside, the girls cannot do to him what Suzanne did - severely bruise his insatiable ego by announcing she was done with him, fall in love with another man and claim half of the assets.

No, he wouldn’t hurt those girls. They feed his ego now. JMHO

What if MM2, under oath, starts spilling a few proverbial beans for the jury to hear? Would she still be safe? I really worry for her especially. MOO

 

[susiQ]

He has hurt them and will always do so, with cuts and bruises you will never see. A narcissistic parent is abusive and manipulative. And he loves control. He will forever meddle in their lives, even making their lives and their marriages all about him.
He will use money if he has any. He will use religion. He will threaten suicide. He will try to destroy their marriages and their friendships. He has already done that. He won’t stop. He doesn’t know how. He is one sick, manipulating, controlling, mean tempered murderer.

Oh, I don’t disagree with that LNF. I was speaking in the sense of mortally harming them in response to OP. I just don’t see him doing that. The rest, absolutely. The really sick thing is, they don’t even realize what he has done to them. They are as you point out, abused in many ways.

 

[mom2chloe]

I’m happy to see I’m not the only one who is chapped by the false story of the bike ride continuing to be put out there. I watched the clip and the sister sounds like more word salad. Maybe the interview tonight will clear that up and she can be somewhat clear and concise but I’m not holding my breath. Does anyone know if this is the same sister who covered for Barry’s car accident while driving without a license in ice? Same sister who approached LS and told her LS was destroying her family?
I am disgusted that Suzanne’s story continues to be told inaccurately. Is this to poison the potential jury pool or further denigrate Suzanne and her memory? I worry about the girls. If Barry is found guilty or believes he will be based on when the jury returns what happens to them because they will undoubtedly be with him?
I love my siblings and could never imagine any of them murdering their spouse let alone anyone else. I would also keep my mouth shut
as the Moormans have done. Barry’s sister speaking out now smells like a defense tactic. IMO I hope the interview answers something otherwise the entire lot of them should keep their mouths shut. They can’t save Barry this time and excusing him and his lies only makes them look ridiculous and enabling. The fact that he silenced the one woman in his entire life who was done enabling him and stood her ground is not lost on me and I have enormous faith that the jurors will see exactly that.
Why doesn’t any MSM portray Suzanne’s story truthfully? Why isn’t DV a more serious concern and why aren’t people understanding the seriousness of this case and many others? It’s never going away and sweeping it under the rug, making excuses and out right lying are serving no one. Barry has daughters and sisters. His sisters have children and grandchildren. What would they say if their loved ones went missing on a faux bike ride? It could happen to any of us and that is the sad yet inconvenient truth that no one wants to admit. IMO

 

[Spartygirl]

ShoDa. Any Real Estate in Chaffee County?
@sk716 In checking the co. records a while back, I did not find any prop in her name alone or as JT/RoS, TenCom, etc.

But in spite of absence of her name in county records, she may still have a beneficial ownership in some Chaffee County real estate. { <---EBM to clarify} She may be a member** of a Limited Liability Company* which owns prop in the county, but her name would not be shown in county records. Many small businesses, even a textbook Mom & Pop Corner Store, operate as LLCs, so I'm not betting one way or the other. my2ct

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* FWIW. If John Doe is a member of an LLC, (say, Wile E. Coyote Apts LLC; or Roadrunner AirBnB LLC ) which holds real est/prop titled in LLC name, then the county's records list that name as owner, not John Doe. That LLC's name is identified in county assessor records, property tax invoices, building permits, etc. as prop owner. Generally, IME individual members of an LLC are not identified in these types of public co. prop. records, altho the names may be available in some other records.
** The owner of beneficial rights in an LLC is known as a "member," not a "shareholder.”

Correct !!
I have done that for a living, having to look up deeds and also businesses to verify ownership.
Most are pretty open and out there, some not----those are the ones I liked... a challenge and put my curious a/k/a nosy nature to use LOL

 

[Spartygirl]

Just a Reminder--- Dateline tonight --Suzanne's case
I have my alarm reminder set and ready to watch !!!!

 

[jakat]

Because investigators and the DA got together and decided to charge him with everything they could think of

Because investigators and the DA got together and decided to charge him with all the EVIDENCE they had. Murder 1.

 

[mom2chloe]

Oh, I don’t disagree with that LNF. I was speaking in the sense of mortally harming them in response to OP. I just don’t see him doing that. The rest, absolutely. The really sick thing is, they don’t even realize what he has done to them. They are as you point out, abused in many ways.

And it is likely they will end up with men similar to their father. It is a sick but realistic cycle. Wish someone would ask Barry what he would do if his daughters, sisters and nieces found themselves in a similar situation. He previously threatened one of his own daughters boyfriends. IMO apparently Barry sees himself differently than other abusers and controllers. He is not different and in fact a controlling, manipulative and abusive type within every relationship he has with other women. PE did an episode early on with both former LE where they alluded to Barry’s upbringing and paternal influence. Was Barry never good enough in his father’s eyes so the women held him up? Idk but I would love to know more about his family oforigin. Not excusing him in the least but maybe if we could better understand what leads to these situations we might be better able to address the issues in the future. IMO

 

[susiQ]

What if MM2, under oath, starts spilling a few proverbial beans for the jury to hear? Would she still be safe? I really worry for her especially. MOO

Those beans have already been spilled in the AA and I have no doubt BM is aware of that. MH also spoke about marital problems from day 1. MM2 spoke honestly about her parent’s relationship. At that point, she would have no reason to lie to protect him, not ever thinking he could do such a thing. They argued a lot. Lots of married couples argue over money and even talk of divorce and don’t resort to murder. I really don’t think he would harm her physically. Emotionally and spiritually is another matter. He’s already done that.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

The Barry apologists are forced to continue their move of the goalposts.

I remember when I first started to follow this site, the apologists insisted we were so wrong about Barry and he was certainly a devoted, Christian man who would never murder his wife. They said there was no evidence to suggest he had ever harmed his wife and therefore he would never be arrested.

Then he was arrested. So, the post was moved in favor of stating that there wasn’t evidence to indict him and charge him with a crime.

Then he was charged with the crime Murder 1. The goalposts were moved once again, their argument being evidence not turned over, DA incompetent, circumstantial case, no body, “sex offender” DNA found.

The DA hasn’t been sanctioned. Barry is still charged with Murder 1. The case isn’t dismissed. Historically speaking, it appears that the apologists are always wrong and the wheels of justice continue to grind.

 

[Kittybunny]

The fact that in most all litigation, one party "wins" and one party "loses" creates an inherent competition between the litigants and their attorneys.

Criminal cases are slightly different because mixed verdicts could be construed as a win or loss for the state or defendant, depending. Either way, after a jury verdict in a criminal case one party will declare victory in some way.

Like it or not, the U.S system of justice is based on adverserial parties presenting their cases before a court and/or jury in an effort to "win" their case.

Litigation is a high-stakes intellectual game of poker played in the Casino of Justice. If you want to be in the arena, you better know how to play the game, or you will likely get your hat handed to you.

Litigating any high profile case is difficult. Way more difficult then most people would think. You have to do an entire song and dance with the facts, law, rules of evidence, strategy, media, and every other unknown issue that pops up during the case. Add to this most "good litigators" including defense attorneys and prosecutors have many other cases they are dealing with.

At the end of the day, regardless of who they represent, all great litigators are zeolous advocates for their clients who do their best to win the case.

The biggest problem with the U.S. justice system, IMO, especially in the criminal law side, is the lack of quality attorneys for some defendants, especially those that are indigent.

One thing that seems certain in this case is that the defendant is adequatley represented by counsel and thus one of the more common issues on appeal is taken off the table before jury selection even starts...IMO

Great post and a great reminder...we may not like it but that's the reality. I'm less interested in the trial side of the equation and legal wrangling because once an arrest has been made and I have enough details to understand most of the story, I'm satisfied...BUT I never want to be blindsided again like I was with the Casey Anthony verdict. Your perspective, knowledge and others who look at things differently are greatly appreciated!

 

[mom2chloe]

Those beans have already been spilled in the AA and I have no doubt BM is aware of that. MH also spoke about marital problems from day 1. MM2 spoke honestly about her parent’s relationship. At that point, she would have no reason to lie to protect him, not ever thinking he could do such a thing. They argued a lot. Lots of married couples argue over money and even talk of divorce and don’t resort to murder. I really don’t think he would harm her physically. Emotionally and spiritually is another matter. He’s already done that.

I hope you’re right but your post reminds me that Barry may have forbid MM2 from a further relationship with MH. Sad yet possible. Imagine you’ve lost your mom, your dad is in jail for her murder and your father has forbidden you from communicating with your closest person. Heartbreaking. IMO

 

[Aloe]

Mark Furman says Hello.....unfortunately.

Yup. Buh Bye, Mark Furman. (Thank you fer yer service)
edited to add MOO

 

[TGIRecovered]

He has hurt them and will always do so, with cuts and bruises you will never see. A narcissistic parent is abusive and manipulative. And he loves control. He will forever meddle in their lives, even making their lives and their marriages all about him.
He will use money if he has any. He will use religion. He will threaten suicide. He will try to destroy their marriages and their friendships. He has already done that. He won’t stop. He doesn’t know how. He is one sick, manipulating, controlling, mean tempered murderer.

Your excellent post deserves repeating. People who have never been a victim of a narcissist can’t possibly understand the extent of the abuse because it is invisible to the outsider. The devastation they wreak upon the mental health of those who love them is without bounds. A malignant narcissist has no desire to love anyone. Their only desire is to be worshiped and to be in control. God help those poor girls.

 

[DizzyB]

Hear the changes in Barry’s voice? The trembling “was it a crash?” to the strong and factual “ maybe it flipped over” in regard to the bike. Ugh I am bugged by TS.

 

[Aloe]

I’m happy to see I’m not the only one who is chapped by the false story of the bike ride continuing to be put out there. I watched the clip and the sister sounds like more word salad. Maybe the interview tonight will clear that up and she can be somewhat clear and concise but I’m not holding my breath. Does anyone know if this is the same sister who covered for Barry’s car accident while driving without a license in ice? Same sister who approached LS and told her LS was destroying her family?
I am disgusted that Suzanne’s story continues to be told inaccurately. Is this to poison the potential jury pool or further denigrate Suzanne and her memory? I worry about the girls. If Barry is found guilty or believes he will be based on when the jury returns what happens to them because they will undoubtedly be with him?
I love my siblings and could never imagine any of them murdering their spouse let alone anyone else. I would also keep my mouth shut
as the Moormans have done. Barry’s sister speaking out now smells like a defense tactic. IMO I hope the interview answers something otherwise the entire lot of them should keep their mouths shut. They can’t save Barry this time and excusing him and his lies only makes them look ridiculous and enabling. The fact that he silenced the one woman in his entire life who was done enabling him and stood her ground is not lost on me and I have enormous faith that the jurors will see exactly that.
Why doesn’t any MSM portray Suzanne’s story truthfully? Why isn’t DV a more serious concern and why aren’t people understanding the seriousness of this case and many others? It’s never going away and sweeping it under the rug, making excuses and out right lying are serving no one. Barry has daughters and sisters. His sisters have children and grandchildren. What would they say if their loved ones went missing on a faux bike ride? It could happen to any of us and that is the sad yet inconvenient truth that no one wants to admit. IMO

Well said @mom2chloe, every paragraph. MOO

 

[Spartygirl]

I figure this whole show will be a hit on Suzanne. I love Keith Morrison but only Barry’s family and someone associated with the Defense will give them information. I don’t think the prosecution or LE is talking now. He will be shown as the good ole church guy.

YEPPERS!!
I am about 20 minutes into show and I am already yelling at the TV.
UGH
Really ?!?!?!
So far, it's all about Team Barry UGH

 

[DizzyB]

Best. Line. Ever. “My sister was a trophy for Barry Morphew, and she wanted down off the wall”.