Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #96

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  • #221
She also said Barry had been calling and texting Suzanne all day. Do we have phone records that show he called Suzanne over and over that Sunday? (We don't, do we? Or am I misremembering?)
And if so, and he was getting worried, why didn't he go home and look for her, and then raise the alarm? Instead of finally showing up at nearly 9pm.
 
  • #222
@Kemug. Please add a barracuda to the zoo. It will probably need its own tank. :D

Yup, just added a barracuda - only one, we don't want them to eat each other! :D
 
  • #223
If this guys guilty it's going to take a lot more than what I saw tonight. For someone who knew nothing about this case and just watched Dateline I can't believe he was even charged. The case seems extremely weak.

However, from reading the last few pages here there's obviously much more to the story. Not sure why Dateline was so vague but I guess they covered it in the original story. Might need to watch the original if I can find it.
Welcome to thread #96! You’ve got a bit of catching up to do :). Don’t feel bad though, judging by Dateline’s presentation, so does Keith Morrison and his crew!! :p:rolleyes:
 
  • #224
Best. Line. Ever. “My sister was a trophy for Barry Morphew, and she wanted down off the wall”.

That really stood out to me too. "Best. Line. Ever." as you say!

I have a lot of respect for Suzanne's sister. Another comment she made was when she was asked about the support SM's daughters are giving BM and she said MM1 and MM2 love their Dad and she understands that.

She'll be there for them when they need her. JMO
 
  • #225
Likewise...I hope the cost of his defense cripples him. MOO
IMO, in his eyes it will always be Suzanne's fault, if he fails financially. He will tell his daughters and anyone, who wants to hear it. :(
 
  • #226
So far, they've already gotten three things wrong. There was no THE BIKE ride, he didn't have a job at THE WALL and both girls didn't live with them.
I sure hope this is just the lead-in and they cover the AA but somehow I don't think they will. It's only an hour long.
I'll be pissed if they don't backtrack the bike and the 'job'.
IMO
I saw only parts of the trailer, and I had to vomit: She had cancer, when 20 yo, and he cared for her and carried her (in short version).
Of course, because of that -29 years ago- BM is a real saint, and he will always bask in it until his end, also thanks to Dateline. IMO
 
  • #227
Welcome to thread #96! You’ve got a bit of catching up to do :). Don’t feel bad though, judging by Dateline’s presentation, so does Keith Morrison and his crew!! :p:rolleyes:

WHEW! I read the entire warrant and the time line here. Also watched a couple of the popular crime channel vids. Still need way more time to absorb it all.

Initial impression is this Morphew guy is a real piece of work. Straight up liar. That’s pretty easy to see. Unfortunately there are a couple blunders and holes left open by the DA’s/LE. Having seen enough head scratching verdicts I hate the defense gets a gift like that in a no-body, no direct evidence, circumstantial case. I don’t think it’s a slam dunk but I’ve got to read more here.

Dateline did a TERRIBLE job. Might be one of the worst cases they’ve presented. You’d think after a month off they’d be on top of their game but nope. Just a lazy show.
 
  • #228
Agree that Dateline was disappointing. I have come to expect more from them but that looked like an Iris & Dru production.

As for Barry's sister and all she said, just took that with a huge grain of salt and reminded me of the interview with Lori Vallow's sister & mother - as it turned out, nothing they said was true!

JMO.
 
  • #229
I went through the call log provided in the defense Exhibit II and converted from UTC and put the calls in order and this is what I got for May 10. I do not see a call to his sister. However, the call log does not go all of the way up until he arrives at Puma Path, so I suppose he could have called her in the time period right before getting back?

I tried to correlate the times listed in this exhibit with text from the AA and it looks problematic to me. Below, I tried to color code some of the times in the list with text in the AA to try to match them, but it sure looks like sometimes the text references UTC-7 local time (highlighted in pink), and sometimes it seems to reference UTC -6 local time (highlighted in blue). I don't even know what to think anymore. Please, if someone sees something I did wrong in my time conversions or whatever else, please correct me. The UTC Listed column contains the times listed in Exhibit II. I created the two Local Time columns as I couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. Why can't anything on this case be straight-forward?

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The call logs start on page 20 of 83:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/Defense Prelim Hearing Ex Rest.pdf

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Arrest Affidavit:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21cr78 Morphew Redacted Affidavit.pdf


Thank you for this work.

I am no techie. However, the archived Verizon Customer Service discussion board yielded this bit of information: The timestamp you see on that display may be in any time zone, since we have servers in multiple locations. The timestamp is given in the local time zone where the call or text was processed through. That can vary from one call or text to the next.

A question I have is this: MUST the call logs released by either Prosecution or Defense have to include all phone calls and texts, or CAN they release only selected communications within a relevant time period of interest that serve their argument?
 
  • #230
The fact that in most all litigation, one party "wins" and one party "loses" creates an inherent competition between the litigants and their attorneys.

Criminal cases are slightly different because mixed verdicts could be construed as a win or loss for the state or defendant, depending. Either way, after a jury verdict in a criminal case one party will declare victory in some way.

Like it or not, the U.S system of justice is based on adverserial parties presenting their cases before a court and/or jury in an effort to "win" their case.

Litigation is a high-stakes intellectual game of poker played in the Casino of Justice. If you want to be in the arena, you better know how to play the game, or you will likely get your hat handed to you.

Litigating any high profile case is difficult. Way more difficult then most people would think. You have to do an entire song and dance with the facts, law, rules of evidence, strategy, media, and every other unknown issue that pops up during the case. Add to this most "good litigators" including defense attorneys and prosecutors have many other cases they are dealing with.

At the end of the day, regardless of who they represent, all great litigators are zeolous advocates for their clients who do their best to win the case.

The biggest problem with the U.S. justice system, IMO, especially in the criminal law side, is the lack of quality attorneys for some defendants, especially those that are indigent.

One thing that seems certain in this case is that the defendant is adequatley represented by counsel and thus one of the more common issues on appeal is taken off the table before jury selection even starts...IMO
Cassady, I agree with you regarding lawyers working hard and earning their pay. And I sincerely appreciate your explanation.

I had read articles about these women before BM hired them. They are very respected in the legal community.

I have a nephew who is an attorney of the same caliber in Houston. Very well respected and well known for winning.

That said, it doesn’t change my opinion of a human being defending a murderer. If he is wrongly accused, okay. Go get ‘em! But when they can read the same AA that I can, and I am nothing, then they know their client is guilty. That’s when you back away or tell your client to admit to what they’ve done.

Am I dreaming? Maybe.

What matters to me is honesty in the profession you work. If they are going to represent BM because he has money, they should be presenting the homeless man who has none. And neither should get away with murder.

Oh that’s right. Its all about money. And winning the game. In that sense BM and his attorneys are on the same level. They earn a lot of money and he gets to keep Suzanne’s inheritance and walk free. Blood money I call it.
 
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Oh, I don’t disagree with that LNF. I was speaking in the sense of mortally harming them in response to OP. I just don’t see him doing that. The rest, absolutely. The really sick thing is, they don’t even realize what he has done to them. They are as you point out, abused in many ways.
I’m sorry. I thought you meant in other ways too.
 
  • #232
30 minutes in and it's pretty much been all sympathetic to Barry...but here comes the suspicion. And now Team Moorman is up.

Ugh this guy TS is super annoying though.
Who is TS?
 
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It was one of those shows where if you went in knowing nothing about the case, you'd likely find yourself somewhere in the middle at the end of it.

You wouldn't be convinced of his guilt, and you wouldn't be convinced of his innocence.

You'd hear about that DNA and likely think a sex offender could have really done it.

Of course we know better.

There are dozens and dozens of things that paint a picture here, and that was merely one broad brush stroke.
Hmm. Glad I didn’t watch.
 
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I preferred as far as TV shows the Dateline to the 20/20. They used the information that is known that is fact with very little speculation. The bike is fact how it got there is speculation at this point, the garbage dumps, the tranquilizer gun, the chlorine smell at the hotel, Barry’s return from Broomfield and the searches. They interviewed 2 from from Suzanne’s family and one family member and friend from Barry’s family. They touched on Suzanne’s marital grievances, pen and affairs and that the marriage was rocky. They touched on the unknown DNA which is fact that is still unresolved by the court. And they touched on the telematics and GPS used in the preliminary and affirmed the judge sent the case to trial. They did not elaborate on things that didn’t “pan out” like his truck, bobcat and the huge search at the river house. They left people who haven’t deep dived the prosecution theory wondering what happened. I assume they will update the episode after trial which they often do. As journalists they would never have “tried” the case ahead of the actual trial. Someone mentioned they left something out and I was trying to remember what they left out. They used the interviews to touch on their early history, Suzanne’s bouts of cancer, his work ethic, their reason for the move to Colorado and his lack of participation in the searches.
 
  • #237
So glad you all got the “treat” of watching Dateline and taking it for the team. I really like Keith Morrison but I would have more respect for him if he revised last nights version with the facts from the AA. Sounds like his production team was more interested in making Suzanne the cheating wife than caring about domestic violence. That was a great disservice.

I do like what her sister said about Suzanne wanting to come down off his trophy wall. Barry did place Suzanne on his wall of trophies like the animals he killed.
 
  • #238
And a long nap at a hotel, while he was “worried”.
The general contractor in an interview with Lauren and MG said the job was scheduled and planned but not for Sunday. That is the fact that is unexplained. There was a job…just not Sunday. The materials had not been ordered to be delivered Monday. That is a fact.
 
  • #239
The general contractor in an interview with Lauren and MG said the job was scheduled and planned but not for Sunday. That is the fact that is unexplained. There was a job…just not Sunday. The materials had not been ordered to be delivered Monday. That is a fact.
What does that have to do with his wife missing and him taking a long nap at a hotel two hours away?
 
  • #240
What does that have to do with his wife missing and him taking a long nap at a hotel two hours away?
They used primarily what was in the transcripts from the preliminary it seems to me. They have no video evidence of what he was doing in the hotel room to add to the broadcast. The trial will have more but the trial also will stick to what can be proved I would guess. The trial will use truck data to show he only spent 15 minutes at the job site and that no materials showed up on Monday and the stops he made at trash cans. I don’t think it is material whether he was sleeping or reading mail in the room. There were wet towels so prosecution might say he took a shower because the wet towels are a fact.
 
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