Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #96

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  • #361
That her bike was in the ravine is fact. How it got there is speculative. The show included the facts of the case and didn’t offer up alternative reasons and did not offer up the prosecution theories I noticed. The show also offered up the shell, the door jam crack, the needle sheath and the chipmunk gun which were all introduced into evidence and were part of the prosecution theory. I cannot remember if the show touched on the helmet.
 
  • #362
And she never communicated with anyone else, ever, after BM got home. That puzzles me.
you mean that 14 1/2 hours after the last confirmed proof of life until Barry heard her lightly snoring...but didn't actually see her, except out of the corner of his eye and couldn't describe what she was wearing the last time he saw her? Only to text her that he arrived at Broomfield? I wonder how many times he had done that before....you know, text Suzanne that he arrived to his destination? My guess....this was a new method of keeping his wife informed.....tried for the first and only time.
 
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I didn't see dateline because I had to pay for a subscription so I'll just watch it when they show it online which I guess is in a couple weeks? I especially wanted to see Barry's sister. I believe she was at the court hearings along with his mother and daughters and is Trevor's mother. He has two sisters, I think. The other one must be back in Indy.
 
  • #364
At this point, I feel we need a pep talk.

The defense is like BM: they are busy. Old saying of my late MIL: could create bother in an empty room.

The prosecution has held much close. They've got it to court. They seem disorganized, but we have no way of knowing if that is how they intend to appear. They aren't giving away the farm.

Everything is there to prove that this is no one but BM.

All moo.
I was just going to post my response to the Dateline episode and then read yours. ITA

I do think it painted BM in a fairly flattering light in the beginning. Even Suzanne's sister and family adored BARE. Suzanne was quite ill, and he became the knight in shining armour, which worked for them as a couple for many years.

It's obvious that over the years Suzanne became disenchanted with the less than 'fairy tale marriage' and wanted more out of her life. Did a second round of cancer and a subsequent relationship with JL help facilitate that desire? Sure, absolutely.

And there is nothing wrong, or illegal in Suzanne coming to that decision. Unfortunately, BARE doesn't share his trophies. He'd rather see her dead than divorce him, take half the money, and make him look like a fool <in his eyes>.

Barry is a small, petty, insecure man who felt he had the divine right to make the choice to kill his wife.

I'm glad the info from about the DNA, JL and other minute stuff was mentioned. I personally think it's better to have the discussions now. People are far more intelligent to the facts of DNA than they were in previous years.

BARE is going to prison, I still have no doubt about it.

MOO
 
  • #365
In your experience with juries in criminal cases and the way the dna is presented today in this case, how would the jury likely view it? I said several months ago that if the jury has to become dna experts this case is in trouble for the prosecution. In general, folks here are not concerned at all about it. I am however and can’t be the only one that would say - what the heck is going on here?

On a side note, I appreciate your contribution to the thread. I personally get stifled by group think and like to view a case from all sides minus heavy emotion or attachment. IMO

I don’t personally participate in “group think”. I have however read in full the AA and followed this case from the very beginning, reading every single post along the way. From this I have based my informed opinion, which the majority of posters here do seem to share.

A mass joining up of dots possibly explains it better than “group think”, which has a derogatory implication IMO.
 
  • #366
I don’t personally participate in “group think”. I have however read in full the AA and followed this case from the very beginning, reading every single post along the way. From this I have based my informed opinion, which the majority of posters here do seem to share.

A mass joining up of dots possibly explains it better than “group think”, which has a derogatory implication IMO.
Big derogatory implication. None of us know Barry or Suzanne. We can't judge them or worse yet "assume" something.
 
  • #367
I'm afraid I'm gonna need a spellcheck on aisle 4.

Is that barracuda or barrycuda?

But you know what else didn't make it into Dateline's program? Barry's special friend, you know, his dumpster chumster.

However, most of the show was filmed quite some time ago IMO.

What the program underscored, without words, was the impact -- Suzanne wasn't the only victim that day.

I feel for all of them. Sometimes the hardest things to see are the things we just can't bring ourselves to face.

There are no winners here.

JMO
 
  • #368
I didn't see dateline because I had to pay for a subscription so I'll just watch it when they show it online which I guess is in a couple weeks? I especially wanted to see Barry's sister. I believe she was at the court hearings along with his mother and daughters and is Trevor's mother. He has two sisters, I think. The other one must be back in Indy.
This is not TN’s mother. I am surprised that the glove box DNA has been highlighted in each tv broadcast as an alternative suspect. Here, it is explained away and not even an option. I want to understand how all of these intelligent attorneys and case watchers believe that this could potentially be Barry’s out. I think that the case hinges on whether or not it can be reasonably argued that the DNA has something/nothing to do with Suzanne’s disappearance.
 
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I didn't see dateline because I had to pay for a subscription so I'll just watch it when they show it online which I guess is in a couple weeks? I especially wanted to see Barry's sister. I believe she was at the court hearings along with his mother and daughters and is Trevor's mother. He has two sisters, I think. The other one must be back in Indy.
It is on You Tube in the entirety now.
 
  • #371
I was just going to post my response to the Dateline episode and then read yours. ITA

I do think it painted BM in a fairly flattering light in the beginning. Even Suzanne's sister and family adored BARE. Suzanne was quite ill, and he became the knight in shining armour, which worked for them as a couple for many years.

It's obvious that over the years Suzanne became disenchanted with the less than 'fairy tale marriage' and wanted more out of her life. Did a second round of cancer and a subsequent relationship with JL help facilitate that desire? Sure, absolutely.

And there is nothing wrong, or illegal in Suzanne coming to that decision. Unfortunately, BARE doesn't share his trophies. He'd rather see her dead than divorce him, take half the money, and make him look like a fool <in his eyes>.

Barry is a small, petty, insecure man who felt he had the divine right to make the choice to kill his wife.

I'm glad the info from about the DNA, JL and other minute stuff was mentioned. I personally think it's better to have the discussions now. People are far more intelligent to the facts of DNA than they were in previous years.

BARE is going to prison, I still have no doubt about it.

MOO
My take is the odds right now without the benefit of the trial information are 50/50. A couple months ago I might have given the tip to prosecution but the dart theory crumbled. No one has even thrown out the possible defense counter argument that the needle sheath in the dryer was Suzanne’s from cleaning and flushing her cancer port. There are absolutely incriminating things in this case but the case is no where near a given in my opinion.
 
  • #372
My take is the odds right now without the benefit of the trial information are 50/50. A couple months ago I might have given the tip to prosecution but the dart theory crumbled. No one has even thrown out the possible defense counter argument that the needle sheath in the dryer was Suzanne’s from cleaning and flushing her cancer port. There are absolutely incriminating things in this case but the case is no where near a given in my opinion.

Did Suzanne even have a port?

I think it is highly unlikely that the sheath for the dart was misidentified.

ETA: Page 30 of the AA is one of the places the dart is mentioned.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/wp-cont...2021/09/21cr78-Morphew-Redacted-Affidavit.pdf
 
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  • #373
Did Suzanne even have a port?

I think it is highly unlikely that the sheath for the dart was misidentified.

ETA: Page 30 of the AA is one of the places the dart is mentioned.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/wp-cont...2021/09/21cr78-Morphew-Redacted-Affidavit.pdf
I have no idea but I am not wedded to what was in the arrest warrant. I have no idea how deeply investigators dug into their theories before they issued the document and prepared for the preliminary. It is said cross examination is the greatest legal tool ever developed. Many people look for things that confirm their beliefs. I take the opposite and look for the alternatives when faced with a decision. If I find none that prove plausible then I make a decision. I do the same with major purchases and business decisions that have revenue implications. Putting a person in prison for life is a major decision for juries and deserves the scrutiny and cross examination that occurs in a trial. Our system is strongly retributive and it starts with a strong emphasis by the state to solve a crime and get someone in prison as punishment which is why the state gets the benefit when charging and why the defense gets the benefit at trial.
 
  • #374
Big derogatory implication. None of us know Barry or Suzanne. We can't judge them or worse yet "assume" something.
We can assume things.
We look at the evidence and we make assumptions. Then discuss them.

Here is a screenshot of Websleuths on Facebook. It says right there WS is a True Crime Discussion Forum

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  • #375
I think Delta/Omicron need to be factored in to the state's resourcing - it's played havoc everywhere.
 
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My take is the odds right now without the benefit of the trial information are 50/50. A couple months ago I might have given the tip to prosecution but the dart theory crumbled. No one has even thrown out the possible defense counter argument that the needle sheath in the dryer was Suzanne’s from cleaning and flushing her cancer port. There are absolutely incriminating things in this case but the case is no where near a given in my opinion.
I'm playing catch-up so I have not read all the post yet, however, have you ever seen a cancer port needle? You will see how small in size that is compared to a tranquilizer dart. There is no way one can be mistaken for the other.
 
  • #377
It is with the utmost respect that I ask this. Anyone considered that what literally set him off that day was she was enjoying a truly pleasurable event? He had a camera on her somewhere where he was monitoring things. Maybe Suzanne indeed had pleasurable sex without him yet within his view unbeknownst to her. He googled it. He wanted to know but he failed to achieve. I hate this because Suzanne was a recovering cancer patient and one of the things chemo steals is desire and pleasure and sometimes renders menopause before justifiable. She was undoubtedly facing menopause within her next 4 or 5 years. Just a thought. I hate it but I love the thought that Suzanne was truly enjoying something in her life especially that given her health and aging circumstances. Please don’t hate me but I’ve wondered for a long time…I have wondered this all along. Don’t kill me please.
I mentioned this early on that a girlfriend who suggested a spy pen might suggest other things. I have a girlfriend who had a husband who shot himself with a gun in front of their house. She asked me to take her shopping before we knew amazon would get it to her safely and privately.

Great post.
You say it so much better than I.

I think a lot of people who are controlled
and/or unvalued seek comfort.
Whether it be kind words or a loving touch.
You can be intimate with your long time person and still feel very alone.
JMO but I think he was amping up for this last bout of cancer to take her. I do wish he had taken himself out instead of her.
But that’s not how his type rolls.
Their ego is running the show. I truly think those perps justify their actions. IOW the victim caused their own death ..therefore the perp is entitled to lie and survive to the fullest.
No cheating EX wife history to mull over or property to divide$. No seeing his beautiful EX at his daughters events & milestones.
Boom!He’s running the entire show again.

MOO
 
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I'm playing catch-up so I have not read all the post yet, however, have you ever seen a cancer port needle? You will see how small in size that is compared to a tranquilizer dart. There is no way one can be mistaken for the other.
If the sheaths are totally different sizes or the sheath in the dryer did not match what they found in the garage I am sure it will be clarified at trial if the sheath comes up.
 
  • #379
Dateline seemed to be a pretty neutral piece and more of a framing for the actual trial which they obviously plan to cover.

The only thing that really stuck out to me on Dateline was all the clear images of the defendant's hands from the body cam videos. Both the palmar and dorsal sides of the hand are visibale at various shots.

These were especially visiable on a large screen TV. When I stopped the video I could not see any visible scratches on either hand....IMO.

The photos introduced by the state show scratches on his arm and his hand. Those scratches occurred at the same time IMO.

However, if those scratches are not visiable when the defendant arrived on the scene the day in question, then it is probable they occurred sometime after that date....IMO.

I couldn't see any markings on his hands either, but the body cam resolution isn't very good. From the CCSO pics, the scabs on his hands don't look like nail or teeth marks. They also don't look like brush or rock scratches.
 
  • #380
I think if there was any possibility that the needle sheath could have been from a source other than the tranq darts, IE would have argued vociferously during the PH. It seemed to be more about how it got there.
 
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