Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #96

[sk716]

I did have to let out a cynical little chuckle when TS said
“ BM couldn’t sleep in their bed, he slept on a couch outside their bedroom. I don’t think he ever slept in that bed again “.

I know what MY thoughts are about why BM couldn’t bring himself to go in that room.

And then I guess we have an old buddy who’s seeing that as the action of an innocent grieving person.

He left out the part about BM not being allowed in the house for 10 days because it was being searched.

JMO

I'm running about a day behind, but Dateline did confirm that Suzanne slept on the side closest to the bathroom. For me, that confirms that Barry hadn't been sleeping in the bed for at least a couple of days.

http://www.[link removed]/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/People-Exhibits-Prelim-Hearing_Page_77.png
The decorative pillows are on Barry's side of the bed so she probably wasn't moving them to remake the bed.

 

[Megnut]

It's likely that the sheath was found only because secondarily someone had the insight and genuis to check the lint trap! Perhaps looking for foreign hair, fibers, etc. And the act of removing the lint tray dislodged the nearly invisible sheath!

I think it's critically important to follow Barry's answers because IMO he was narrative building.

First, he wanted no one to know about his tranquilizer activity that weekend, evidenced by one trash run.

That Barry left behind an inoperable dart gun adds another distancing maneuver.

Likewise, his assertion he hadn't used any such thing for yeeeeears, and certainly not in Colorado.

But when confronted with discovery, he then agreed he'd used A functioning weapon and had shot two deer. But not MDW. No, in April. Distancing. But only outside. Distance, distance, distance. Split hairs distance.

Again when confronted, likely with a general location of the discovery, he pinned the breezeway. No, never in the house, but if in the house, the breezeway.

Honestly, three more directed questions, he may have embellished more. That he often shot deer whilst standing upon the dryer.

A typical defense team mounts a reasonable doubt defense once they've seen the totality of the evidence.

Here, we have a POI with unfettered lips. Had an answer for just about everything, bit by bit by bit, as LE revealed new discovery. I think, in just one instance, he had something like 13 versions!

Forget push up records, he's got to have the winningest record for most stories told. How did Grusing keep a straight face?

Chipmunks. Seriously. That's got to be a first.

JMO

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

If her phone was broken during a fight, why wasn't the phone, or whatever was left of it, found at the home?

In addition, Barry wouldn't have then asked police when they found her bike, "Did you find her phone?" Not asking about her...asking about her phone...

JMO.

 

[Skigh]

In addition, Barry wouldn't have then asked police when they found her bike, "Did you find her phone?" Not asking about her...asking about her phone...

JMO.

I have always wondered if he asked that as in his mind it was an expected question and he knew they would not find it or whether he had planted it and expected it to be found.

 

[K9Enzo]

I'm running about a day behind, but Dateline did confirm that Suzanne slept on the side closest to the bathroom. For me, that confirms that Barry hadn't been sleeping in the bed for at least a couple of days.

http://www.[link removed]/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/People-Exhibits-Prelim-Hearing_Page_77.png
The decorative pillows are on Barry's side of the bed so she probably wasn't moving them to remake the bed.

Very good observation. I can see that. Now, did SM wake on Sunday morning and make the bed, have a cup of coffee or this bed was made Saturday after she woke and had coffee, not to be slept in again by her because she was dead or incapacitated. If that door frame was cracked I think it’s highly probable that bed would have been a struggle location, but it looks normal. Did BM make the bed to make it appear like SM got up and started her day on Sunday? I’m not asking you directly these questions, just my thoughts after you posted your good observation. IMO

 

[sk716]

That her bike was in the ravine is fact. How it got there is speculative. The show included the facts of the case and didn’t offer up alternative reasons and did not offer up the prosecution theories I noticed. The show also offered up the shell, the door jam crack, the needle sheath and the chipmunk gun which were all introduced into evidence and were part of the prosecution theory. I cannot remember if the show touched on the helmet.

Not speculative. We can make an inference based on the facts available.

So, when Barry's phone was moving toward where Suzanne's bike was found at 03:58 in the am on the day she is reported missing, I can infer that he is moving her bike to that location.

 

[DellaC]

It's likely that the sheath was found only because secondarily someone had the insight and genuis to check the lint trap! Perhaps looking for foreign hair, fibers, etc. And the act of removing the lint tray dislodged the nearly invisible sheath!

I think it's critically important to follow Barry's answers because IMO he was narrative building.

First, he wanted no one to know about his tranquilizer activity that weekend, evidenced by one trash run.

That Barry left behind an inoperable dart gun adds another distancing maneuver.

Likewise, his assertion he hadn't used any such thing for yeeeeears, and certainly not in Colorado.

But when confronted with discovery, he then agreed he'd used A functioning weapon and had shot two deer. But not MDW. No, in April. Distancing. But only outside. Distance, distance, distance. Split hairs distance.

Again when confronted, likely with a general location of the discovery, he pinned the breezeway. No, never in the house, but if in the house, the breezeway.

Honestly, three more directed questions, he may have embellished more. That he often shot deer whilst standing upon the dryer.

A typical defense team mounts a reasonable doubt defense once they've seen the totality of the evidence.

Here, we have a POI with unfettered lips. Had an answer for just about everything, bit by bit by bit, as LE revealed new discovery. I think, in just one instance, he had something like 13 versions!

Forget push up records, he's got to have the winningest record for most stories told. How did Grusing keep a straight face?

Chipmunks. Seriously. That's got to be a first.

JMO

I am unfamiliar with what visuals are useful or allowed in court. I think an infographic of what BM says and how the story changes based on discovered evidence would be useful.

QUESTION: If someone is shown to be a compulsive liar, can the Defense turn that into an argument for their case? I'm thinking, "The guy's a compulsive liar. He can't help himself. You see it all through the interviews with law enforcement. We get that. You, the jury, can see that, too. You can convict him of lying, but he's on trial for murdering his wife. Being a liar does not equate to killing your wife."

 

[MrsWatson]

It's likely that the sheath was found only because secondarily someone had the insight and genuis to check the lint trap! Perhaps looking for foreign hair, fibers, etc. And the act of removing the lint tray dislodged the nearly invisible sheath!

I think it's critically important to follow Barry's answers because IMO he was narrative building.

First, he wanted no one to know about his tranquilizer activity that weekend, evidenced by one trash run.

That Barry left behind an inoperable dart gun adds another distancing maneuver.

Likewise, his assertion he hadn't used any such thing for yeeeeears, and certainly not in Colorado.

But when confronted with discovery, he then agreed he'd used A functioning weapon and had shot two deer. But not MDW. No, in April. Distancing. But only outside. Distance, distance, distance. Split hairs distance.

Again when confronted, likely with a general location of the discovery, he pinned the breezeway. No, never in the house, but if in the house, the breezeway.

Honestly, three more directed questions, he may have embellished more. That he often shot deer whilst standing upon the dryer.

A typical defense team mounts a reasonable doubt defense once they've seen the totality of the evidence.

Here, we have a POI with unfettered lips. Had an answer for just about everything, bit by bit by bit, as LE revealed new discovery. I think, in just one instance, he had something like 13 versions!

Forget push up records, he's got to have the winningest record for most stories told. How did Grusing keep a straight face?

Chipmunks. Seriously. That's got to be a first.

JMO

We can't forget CBD Tim.

I give LE a lot of credit for not laughing in his face at some of his ridiculous statements.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Not speculative. We can make an inference based on the facts available.

So, when Barry's phone was moving toward where Suzanne's bike was found at 03:58 in the am on the day she is reported missing, I can infer that he is moving her bike to that location.

Yes you personally can infer. I can personally speculate and prosecution hopes the jury will infer. I am not to the point of inferring much…need to hear the trial.

 

[sk716]

Very good observation. I can see that. Now, did SM wake on Sunday morning and make the bed, have a cup of coffee or this bed was made Saturday after she woke and had coffee, not to be slept in again by her because she was dead or incapacitated. If that door frame was cracked I think it’s highly probable that bed would have been a struggle location, but it looks normal. Did BM make the bed to make it appear like SM got up and started her day on Sunday? I’m not asking you directly these questions, just my thoughts after you posted your good observation. IMO

She made the bed Saturday. But it does look like someone might have laid on top of the blankets during a WhatsApp session, though. *nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean*

I think the struggle occurred in the master bathroom. He knew he had to do it somewhere he could clean easily. I think she was already in the bathroom when he broke open the MBR door. But if she was fleeing ahead of him she would have tried to put as many doors between them as possible.

 

[MrsWatson]

I am unfamiliar with what visuals are useful or allowed in court. I think an infographic of what BM says and how the story changes based on discovered evidence would be useful.

QUESTION: If someone is shown to be a compulsive liar, can the Defense turn that into an argument for their case? I'm thinking, "The guy's a compulsive liar. He can't help himself. You see it all through the interviews with law enforcement. We get that. You, the jury, can see that, too. You can convict him of lying, but he's on trial for murdering his wife. Being a liar does not equate to killing your wife."

Mark Geragos said about Scott Peterson that he was a "cad" but that doesn't make him a murderer.

 

[Cindizzi]

In addition, Barry wouldn't have then asked police when they found her bike, "Did you find her phone?" Not asking about her...asking about her phone...

JMO.

Speaking of SM’s phone, I just happened upon this in the AA.
On July 9, 2020 BM stated that with the girls being out of town, SM would have had her phone on all night.

Later when confronted with evidence that SM had not communicated with anyone after 2:45 Saturday afternoon, he changed his story to say that they had turned their phones off.

 

[sk716]

Speaking of SM’s phone, I just happened upon this in the AA.
On July 9, 2020 BM stated that with the girls being out of town, SM would have had her phone on all night.

Later when confronted with evidence that SM had not communicated with anyone after 2:45 Saturday afternoon, he changed his story to say that they had turned their phones off.

You're starting to see why it's so hard to catalog his lies.

 

[Warwick7]

Speaking of SM’s phone, I just happened upon this in the AA.
On July 9, 2020 BM stated that with the girls being out of town, SM would have had her phone on all night.

Later when confronted with evidence that SM had not communicated with anyone after 2:45 Saturday afternoon, he changed his story to say that they had turned their phones off.

Yup! Another lie...

 

[Cindizzi]

You're starting to see why it's so hard to catalog his lies.

So so many lies and ever evolving “ explanations”.
Especially about Saturday afternoon.
Veggie soup and sitting in the sun with her.
Then he can’t remember where she was when he came back from his errands.
In fact, he totally forgot about going for the blade change.
Also, he never brought up that they hiked up to Fooses until he suddenly remembered it in June after several interviews.
Then he changed his mind on the hike story many times saying well maybe it was Friday.Or Thursday.
So many inconsistencies to try and fit to the evidence.
JMO

 

[BeckyF]

If the sheaths are totally different sizes or the sheath in the dryer did not match what they found in the garage I am sure it will be clarified at trial if the sheath comes up.

We are not in a trial here. Most of us are expressing opinions and discussing what we do actually know after viewing the actual evidence and reading the AA. We are speculating because that is what we do. We don’t need a trial to comment on what we actually know to be a fact.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I am unfamiliar with what visuals are useful or allowed in court. I think an infographic of what BM says and how the story changes based on discovered evidence would be useful.

QUESTION: If someone is shown to be a compulsive liar, can the Defense turn that into an argument for their case? I'm thinking, "The guy's a compulsive liar. He can't help himself. You see it all through the interviews with law enforcement. We get that. You, the jury, can see that, too. You can convict him of lying, but he's on trial for murdering his wife. Being a liar does not equate to killing your wife."

Agree. One of the reasons I think they want the whole interviews played is so the jury can here Barry in dialogue and not snips of conversations. So yes to get a sense of him in context. It must not be something they are nervous about. Probably not something they are excited about. I have always wanted to hear the “Barryisms” in context.

 

[Warwick7]

"Barry looked at (the friend) and said, ‘I don’t think I’d pass a polygraph,’” according to the affidavit. “(The friend) waited in uncomfortable silence for a few moments to allow Barry to qualify his statement… he got chills from Barry’s response and thought Barry’s reaction was very strange.”

‘I Don’t Think I’d Pass a Polygraph,’ Barry Morphew Told Friend, According to Unsealed Arrest Affidavit

 

[Momofthreeboys]

We are not in a trial here. Most of us are expressing opinions and discussing what we do actually know after viewing the actual evidence and reading the AA. We are speculating because that is what we do. We don’t need a trial to comment on what we actually know to be a fact.

True… but we are less than 90 days from trial and witness list is due in the coming week. I would challenge the idea that everything that gets discussed here is fact. Some is of course. I have followed this case since the day it hit the news having familiarity with the area and family that lived in the area. I had friends who searched with Andy. I haven’t been to Salida since Fibark this past year but I will be back again. But the trial is of utmost importance. He goes to prison for a very long time or he goes free never to be tried again for any of the charges that the jury votes on.

 

[Warwick7]

"Barry has made at least thirteen assertions by his third interview with the FBI, most of them unsolicited, that he had no idea about the affair and asks Agents to say they believe him,” an extraordinary footnote of the 131-page affidavit states. “This contradicts other statements made to the FBI and his actions in 2019 to find out who Suzanne is talking with and who she is seeing on her trips.”

Top Five Most Explosive Details in Lengthy Barry Morphew Murder Investigation Affidavit That Was Just Released