Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #96

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  • #501

May we (virtually) all concur that, if nothing else, Barry is a scofflaw.
To wit:
Social norms are not applicable to him because of his manifest exceptionalism.
In Barry-world, his prowess is in plain view for us plebeians. Those who may be unconvinced,...well, Barry's-god purposes these to be taken advantage of, and Barry has demonstrated that he is pleased to oblige in such cases.


Q:
So how does one, [read; 'do we'], consider that this accused is not just playing all concerned for useful dolts? Could/would not this be "in character" for Barry? {eg. "Ya'see. These young bucks are all around the place, and - while I 100% never did anything like this - it's a piece of cake to sneak up on 'em, being almost in plain view, and dart them for their rack! Yeah. It's that easy!"}

So Barry's ultimate judicial/societal comeuppance to be visited upon him thru such theatre? Why it's not even enough sound and fury to signify nothing!


And No: I personally do not consider the sacrifice of 500,000 georges for life-long freedom to be an unpalatable option for Barry, no matter how "cheap" we may think him. Actually, standing alone, such an exchange has an almost selfless ring to it. Likely, some in his camp would consider it such...

<As always, all ^ very humble opinion(s)- apart from a couple bits of purloined paraphrasing>
 
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  • #502
Agreed. Actually, even more than her running off, I think the *most likely* scenario from the perspective of an innocent Barry whose wife is missing and whose bike was just found in a ravine near their home -- is that she might have crawled/staggered her way home and then either fell asleep, gone unconscious or died at home (thus not answering Mrs. Ritter's calls). So in addition to the signs of what she took, as you say, he should have been checking for her curled up in bed, on the bathroom floor, living room couch, etc.



If I recall, his phone placed him at the bike ravine location, but not his truck. So he either walked/rode the bike to the spot and then walked home, or was in a non-telematics vehicle at that moment (wasn't it in the 3:30am range, so ~an hour before he drove out in the truck?) when he delivered the bike to the ravine location.
People had been at the house looking before Barry got back from Broomfield. I think people have questioned his demeanor when he entered for the 10 minutes with police, but he already knew from LE that people had been the house - more than just MH and his dad which were on the police cams so I didn't find anything startling about his behavior. Calling out her name would have been weirder and felt more "fake" in my opinion since he already knew from LE and friends she wasn't there. Some lights were on when they entered so clearly someone had been inside since daylight.
 
  • #503
Did Barry ever explain why he chose that particular day to throw away tranq material 100 miles away from home? What a coincidence that a needle sheath was in the dryer, and his wife went missing too. Was the tranq agent expired? Had the darts been sitting in his truck for months, or did he take them from the garage while cleaning his workbench? Barry is a self professed cheapskate-why throw away darts that he had used within a month?

Just that he had been cleaning the workbench. If they came from Indiana and his deer farming business they were most likely over 2 years old already. He said he killed critters - Chipmunks with his 22. Whether or not he would keep and continue to use potentially expired drugs in a state where he wasn't legally authorized to do so is anyone's guess.
 
  • #504
People had been at the house looking before Barry got back from Broomfield. I think people have questioned his demeanor when he entered for the 10 minutes with police, but he already knew from LE that people had been the house - more than just MH and his dad which were on the police cams so I didn't find anything startling about his behavior. Calling out her name would have been weirder and felt more "fake" in my opinion since he already knew from LE and friends she wasn't there. Some lights were on when they entered so clearly someone had been inside since daylight.
I know my house better than LE. Maybe he did ask a million questions, asking LE to check the nooks and crannies of different sections. For instance, a section of my basement has a false wall with a bunch of filled steel racks in front of it. If you move a rack, you can see access to behind that wall. My parents had a couple of storage areas that would not be known or visible unless you lived there. No offense to the search crew, but I would want to assist them because my knowledge would be greater than theirs. I would like to see more footage of Barry that night.
 
  • #505
I know my house better than LE. Maybe he did ask a million questions, asking LE to check the nooks and crannies of different sections. For instance, a section of my basement has a false wall with a bunch of filled steel racks in front of it. If you move a rack, you can see access to behind that wall. My parents had a couple of storage areas that would not be known or visible unless you lived there. No offense to the search crew, but I would want to assist them because my knowledge would be greater than theirs. I would like to see more footage of Barry that night.
Agreed. And IMO, he described her as his angel, I would want to know for me, not knowing how thoroughly what had been checked.
 
  • #506
This just hit me again.

Barry's entry into his home.

He entered it calmly.

It wasn't just that he didn't look around for Suzanne but that he didn't look for (or even pretend to look for) any clues to her intention for the day! He should, at a minimum, have been pretending that he didn't know what had become of her. He, as the spouse, he as the last one home with Suzanne, he as the one who ostensibly would know her habits best (more than, say, a teenage daughter's teenage boyfriend), you'd think he'd be able to assess quite a bit. Few lights on, was this how the house was found? Night lights on, she must've left early. No lights on, must've been well into morning when she left. And notes, anything at her desk? Her daily planner, any clue there? What's missing? Officer, can I look or can you? See if she took her jacket, her purse, some cash, her medication....

It's certainly peculiar that, after 3 hours on the road, helpless as you'd imagine an innocent spouse would feel, it doesn’t look like he'd utilized all that idle time to firm up his questions, to lay out whom to call, where to look, any and all of the places she might be.

Can I check the sink, the trash? See if she had breakfast? Lunch? See if I can find her phone. Surely she took it with her but ....

To our knowledge, in any of his conversations with Ritters, he didn't suggest a roster of names, people who could've picked Suzanne up. Maybe she'd gone with someone else... thrown her bike in their car. Off on a long explore...

Know what else? I don't think he asked Ritters to look in Suzanne's RR for her bike. Which seems to be where she kept it and where one might expect it to be.

Yes, Barry said he took her bike out, but if Suzanne was going on a bike ride on Sunday -- you know, if she wasn't dead -- how'd Barry know she didn't put it back in her RR? Maybe her bike was safe in her RR and Suzanne was safe, off with a friend?

Whoop, there it is.

Everyone else was trying to arrive at an explanation which would render Suzanne findable -- and alive. No one wants to think the worst, not until it's all that's left. Where could she be? she has to be somewhere....

Nope. Barry, and Barry alone, was ready to accept that she was gone. Gone, gone. Was it.... lion? Mmmmouuuuuuntaaaaaain liiiiiiion...

What's that rule? Hear hooves, think horses. More common than zebras. Most people most of the time are safe. Think horses. Reason it out. Call around. Search systematically. Then frantically. Keep thinking, keep looking, keep hope alive.

Nope, not Barry. In fact not only did Barry skip over the horse hooves, he skipped right over the zebra hooves and went straight to mountain lion feet.

Please tell me anyone who jumps right to a worst case scenario. When there's still a possibility their loved one may be somewhere reasonable, just someplace no one's yet thought to look.

It's almost as if Barry wanted them to find her bike, find her baby blue bike helmet, find her biking clothes and then clear him.

A gargantuan non sequitur if ever I've seen one.

Said this before, IMO Barry looked like someone entering his home, knowing it would look just like he left it.

JMO
And in true narcissistic behavior, had she left because of an affair he didn’t even care. No concern. Nope. He was over her.
But he is the one who had gotten rid of her and now if these pesky little LE investigators would go home he could finally get some sleep and start over tomorrow. No concern for anyone. No searching. Don’t bother him with details and questions.
 
  • #507
Barry's foreknowledge error IMO was revealed when the officer asked him about Suzanne's routes and said they'd check up by Foose's. Barry's reaction is worth a second look.

Barry wants the bike to be the crime scene. Suzanne's last location.

He doesn't react while at PP because the house doesn't feature into his narrative.

JMO
 
  • #508
We know too much (or think we know too much). Just the facts, ma’am. Suzanne went dark when she never would have. Barry was at PP with a silent Suzanne for 14 hours after that. He left and went to a job he could not work on, unexpectedly. He lied about what he was doing, when and how he got up in the morning, his route, what he was doing while he was there, trash runs, tranq darts, his never ending story changes to fit what he was questioned about. I don’t know how he killed Suzanne, or if he will be convicted. Juries and trials are complex. But that will never change the facts of the case.
Yes to all of the above @DizzyB. As to the BBM, very true. IMO, jurors take their jobs very seriously and render the correct verdict/get it right most/majority of the time. Having said that, as most of us are aware, sometimes a “not guilty” verdict doesn’t equate to innocence, i.e., OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony are perfect examples of 2 high profile cases that imo, murderers were set free. It is beyond maddening and I think it’s more rare this happens but unfortunately, it can and has happened.

In this case, it’s going to come down to the prosecution hitting a grand slam at trial as someone here astutely pointed out a few days ago (apologies I can’t remember who). It’s not a slam dunk case, no smoking gun because BM knew not to leave physical evidence behind and hid/concealed SM very well. That said, I still believe the state has a very strong circumstantial case and imo, there will likely be some things revealed at trial that the state has on BM that we haven’t even heard about yet (prosecution have not and will not reveal their whole hand prior to trial). IMO, the digital evidence in this case is powerful. That and the crazy, wacky last minute fake alibi, I think will raise more than one eyebrow so to speak on the jury. Then we have BM’s lies, contradictory statements, changing stories to LE, and the body cam footage of BM arriving at the staged bike scene speaks for itself as to BM’s overall unconcerned demeanor, and first things he asks about was it a Mountain Lion?! Did you find her phone?! Very telling. I do believe most jurors take behavioral evidence seriously/into account and figures into their ultimate decision.

Bottom line, though we might not like them or their tactics, the prosecution is going up against a competent, intelligent, formidable defense team.
I’ve read everything I could find on E&N and it’s not lost on me that one of things IE aka a Force of Nature/Hurricane, is known for is her command of a courtroom. My research led me to several articles and profiles on E&N and awards they’ve won. They are very well respected in the legal community, and their record speaks for itself. I’m not going to lie and say it doesn’t worry me that BM hired the best of the best DC. It does worry me to a degree. Having said that, the Attorney’s for both sides are going to ‘duke it out’ at trial and in the end, the jury will decide if the prosecution proved their case BARD. I absolutely believe if the prosecution/lead prosecuting Attorney does their job right presenting their case against BM, help the jury connect the dots of the mountain of circumstantial evidence which totality thereof points directly to BM, along with key witness testimony, that if jurors use critical thinking skills, logic and reasonable deduction, I think highly likely jurors will come to conclusion/unanimous decision and convict BM on all charges.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #509
I know my house better than LE. Maybe he did ask a million questions, asking LE to check the nooks and crannies of different sections. For instance, a section of my basement has a false wall with a bunch of filled steel racks in front of it. If you move a rack, you can see access to behind that wall. My parents had a couple of storage areas that would not be known or visible unless you lived there. No offense to the search crew, but I would want to assist them because my knowledge would be greater than theirs. I would like to see more footage of Barry that night.

That's the problem though it's hard to project what "we" would do onto others. It comes up when discussing grief, shock, death...the various perspectives of how people should react. I honestly don't know how I would react...I've never been in the situation but I think Barry was told or knew he would not be returning to the house that night. We don't have that conversation caught on body cam, but the house was emptied when he got there with the cops and they gave him very explicit instructions when they were entering so pick an emotion: was it cold blooded, in shock, dazed and confused....I don't know that we can label it without projecting our own potential reactions. But profiling won't be testified to if I recall the last motions hearing.
 
  • #510
I think Barry shot Suzanne with the dart from the breezeway (element of truth shooting deer from the breezeway) ... he then chased her around the house (chipmunks) There was the bare footprint on the blade of the bobcat... I have always thought it was her print as she was running from him. She made it into the bedroom and locked the door. He stood outside the door for two minutes because he was waiting for the drugs to take effect. He probably listened until she stopped stumbling around and then broke down the door to get to her. The brown towel was missing, but he could have easily removed her bikini and hung it up (easier than regular clothing).

Also I googled the weight of a buck, if the dart was for a buck to sedate and remove antlers, then they weigh 350-500 pounds. That is a lot bigger than Suzanne, I wonder what the impact of all those drugs would be on her?

Also to him having a bad night and her having a good night (Friday) likely she told him she wanted the divorce ... great night for her, she was about to be free of him, terrible night for him, the reality of his situation sunk in and he had to make plans ...and likely starting putting plans into action
 
  • #511
Didn't Barry's mom say something (maybe to Tyson but not sure) about Suzanne having an affair or a boyfriend shortly after she disappeared, IIRC? That would not have been lost on Barry...and if she did make that comment....who told her? I think Barry knew much more about Suzanne's other life than is advertised...because he made it his business to know. JMO.
Unfortunately, that piece of info came from a non-approved site iirc. :oops:
 
  • #512
People had been at the house looking before Barry got back from Broomfield. I think people have questioned his demeanor when he entered for the 10 minutes with police, but he already knew from LE that people had been the house - more than just MH and his dad which were on the police cams so I didn't find anything startling about his behavior. Calling out her name would have been weirder and felt more "fake" in my opinion since he already knew from LE and friends she wasn't there. Some lights were on when they entered so clearly someone had been inside since daylight.
While this is plausible....the guy entering his home and not peppering LE with a barrage of questions about what may have happened to her is telling. A missing wife and LE in his home....and he simply waits on them to ask him something? That seems out of sorts.
 
  • #513
bbm
What did he think, LE would think, if the charger wasn't on its/any place?
Did LE ever ask for it? I can't remember it.
We learned about it somehow so LE had to have asked. I don't how or if he answered either. Likely didn't, leaving it up to them to pick a scenario, any scenario (Suzanne took off and needed to charge her phone - again, I know how stupid that sounds but many people were giving the idea some fuel early on.).
 
  • #514
I agree he likely had many things he threw away that police don't know about. He only had to admit later to things he knew they had found or figured out. Then he would have an excuse to explain it away.

I haven't used the tranquilizer since Indiana... later but I did tranquilize a deer in April to cut the horns off.. that is why I was throwing away that tranquillizer material at a trash dump.

He never used airplane mode... maybe Suzanne did it... but he would use airplane mode so Suzanne couldn't track him... okay so he didn't need airplane mode that day then because he texted her he was on his way home and then didn't use airplane mode until he was at home.
Exactly. He thought he had everything covered, until he didn't. And didn't again. No wait he did, oops no he didn't.
 
  • #515
People had been at the house looking before Barry got back from Broomfield. I think people have questioned his demeanor when he entered for the 10 minutes with police, but he already knew from LE that people had been the house - more than just MH and his dad which were on the police cams so I didn't find anything startling about his behavior. Calling out her name would have been weirder and felt more "fake" in my opinion since he already knew from LE and friends she wasn't there. Some lights were on when they entered so clearly someone had been inside since daylight.
Not startled? Strikes me as
When the nurse shows mom the new baby and mom says "meh, I had one before."
 
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  • #516
Hi I never posted on this thread but trying to distract myself from what is going on in Europe.
I just read the thread( from the beginning)
and I think some things are definitely unexplainable:
* last ever contact of Suzanne with outside world is after Barry comes home, I know there is some missing time ( between message to JL and Barry coming home) but he is claiming to have had a perfect evening with his wife and that she was alive and asleep on Sunday morning
* No permit for work that he had to leave on Sunday 5am ( mother’s day on top of that)
* Being such a rush on Sunday (5am) and actually staying at the hotel a lot is weird.
So like you go to do the job and wake up early and leave at 5am and stay at the hotel most of the time?
* And what’s up with trash stops how much regular person has to throw. Do we really need to stop at various locations to throw our trash?

The thing is that I can’t imagine anything else happening. The famous mountain lion would leave tracks, last message was to join whatsapp wouldn’t Suzanne say hey I’m going for bike ride to JL? I can’t imagine texting about joining whatsapp video call and talking all day to disappear and take a very random bike ride without saying it to JL they exchanged so many messages that day.
PS not english native speaker so forgive my mistakes!
 
  • #517
I still think he was shocked to be banned from his home. I think he never thought his story would be challenged. I think he thought he would be out 'searching ' with his buddies ,perhaps even hunting for mountain lions then he would return home to sympathetic neighbours who would have left him food to heat up .
 
  • #518
Do electronic garage doors have telemetrics?
This one does:
The Roost Smart Garage Door Sensor is an easy to set up Wi-Fi-connected sensor that sends customizable notifications to a smartphone, communicating the state of a garage door; open or closed. At any hour, owners can check Roost’s free mobile app to check on the status of their garage door home entry point.
 
  • #519
While this is plausible....the guy entering his home and not peppering LE with a barrage of questions about what may have happened to her is telling. A missing wife and LE in his home....and he simply waits on them to ask him something? That seems out of sorts.

Especially as he was the last person to see SM - you would think he would look around to see if everything was how he left it.

Other people didn't have that info.
 
  • #520
Hi I never posted on this thread but trying to distract myself from what is going on in Europe.
I just read the thread( from the beginning)
and I think some things are definitely unexplainable:
* last ever contact of Suzanne with outside world is after Barry comes home, I know there is some missing time ( between message to JL and Barry coming home) but he is claiming to have had a perfect evening with his wife and that she was alive and asleep on Sunday morning
* No permit for work that he had to leave on Sunday 5am ( mother’s day on top of that)
* Being such a rush on Sunday (5am) and actually staying at the hotel a lot is weird.
So like you go to do the job and wake up early and leave at 5am and stay at the hotel most of the time?
* And what’s up with trash stops how much regular person has to throw. Do we really need to stop at various locations to throw our trash?

The thing is that I can’t imagine anything else happening. The famous mountain lion would leave tracks, last message was to join whatsapp wouldn’t Suzanne say hey I’m going for bike ride to JL? I can’t imagine texting about joining whatsapp video call and talking all day to disappear and take a very random bike ride without saying it to JL they exchanged so many messages that day.
PS not english native speaker so forgive my mistakes!


Welcome to this thread,new posters are most welcome,this is an exceptionally friendly thread.. Your English is excellent. Have you read the AA or excellent time line? There is also a media thread .

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