Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #97

[mrjitty]

Well maybe encourage is not the right word then. All I meant is the same thing you are saying “ she didn’t object to it”. Same thing. She didn’t discourage them from going. She didn’t tell them she thought it was a bad idea.
And yes, she told JL that she dreaded being alone with BM and didn’t want to be alone with him.
Sadly, she didn’t know just how unsafe it would turn out to be.
JMO

Obviously she was correct in her fears. The trip provided a window of opportunity. I don't think testimony from the kids is that relevant in this regard.

 

[marylamby]

Well maybe encourage is not the right word then. All I meant is the same thing you are saying “ she didn’t object to it”. Same thing. She didn’t discourage them from going. She didn’t tell them she thought it was a bad idea.
And yes, she told JL that she dreaded being alone with BM and didn’t want to be alone with him.
Sadly, she didn’t know just how unsafe it would turn out to be.
JMO

Just so you know, I wasn't trying to contradict you. I was parlaying off of your thoughts. I love that. I appreciate when someone makes me think a little more deeply. And yes, I believe she ignored that little voice in her head for the sake of her children's happiness or whatever reason, really. Let that be a lesson to us all. Trust that gut feeling. I wish I had.

 

[Yvettea]

#BarryMorphew next court appearance in Fremont County Court is still set for Friday, March 4 at 9:30 a.m.

We will likely hear from multiple members of law enforcement.


https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1498734893236244485?s=21

 

[Cindizzi]

Personally I don't believe the affairs of SM and BM go directly to motive.

It's about the breakdown of the marriage and SM's exit that is what provided the temporal trigger point. BM obviously knew/suspected SMs affair for months - why else did he have a secret spy camera? I don't think he murdered her over the affair. Nor was he secretly watching her remotely that afternoon.

It was about the money, and SM's efforts to escape.

These murders frequently occur then when woman tries to exit.

Yes I hope the State focus is more on how controlling BM was and about the issues with money.
Trying to prove that he knew about the affair will be hard to prove ( although I’m sure he did, just not WHO it was with).
Thankfully they have the pen recording of SM saying that 80% of their arguments were about money.
And BM’s own statements that Marriage Is For Life!
He wasn’t about to let her walk out.
Crazy that he’s angry at her friend for not counseling her better.
JMO
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user.../21CR78/21cr78 Morphew Redacted Affidavit.pdf

 

[marylamby]

Yes I hope the State focus is more on how controlling BM was and about the issues with money.
Trying to prove that he knew about the affair will be hard to prove ( although I’m sure he did, just not WHO it was with).
Thankfully they have the pen recording of SM saying that 80% of their arguments were about money.
And BM’s own statements that Marriage Is For Life!
He wasn’t about to let her walk out.
Crazy that he’s angry at her friend for not counseling her better.
JMO
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21cr78 Morphew Redacted Affidavit.pdf

How he pressured her to give him money for something she wasn't comfortable with shows exactly how controlling he was. Saying "No" didn't seem to be an option, no matter how much she protested. I wish we had even estimated dates for the audio.

 

[Cindizzi]

Just so you know, I wasn't trying to contradict you. I was parlaying off of your thoughts. I love that. I appreciate when someone makes me think a little more deeply. And yes, I believe she ignored that little voice in her head for the sake of her children's happiness or whatever reason, really. Let that be a lesson to us all. Trust that gut feeling. I wish I had.

Well you made me think! I can see how ‘ encouraged them” sounds like she was jumping around with Pom poms and pushing them out the door. All I really meant was that she didn’t object to it.
I’m guessing that you listened to your gut in time? Hope so. I think we’ve all learned lessons that our instincts are invariably right, I don’t doubt mine anymore.

 

[Cindizzi]

How he pressured her to give him money shows exactly how controlling he was. Saying "No" didn't seem to be an option, no matter how much she protested. I wish we had even estimated dates for the audio.

I believe the AA says this argument was in March 2020.

 

[marylamby]

I believe the AA says this argument was in March 2020.

Thanks. So two months-ish before he killed her?
On a personal note, I'll never not be so appalled that he killed her on Mother's Day. Maybe he never wanted to share her. Like a little boy who didn't want his mother to have another child. He was the 'baby', is that right?
That's not unique, especially with a narcissist. I don't think they ever had a pet, is that right? Or was there one who came to his or her demise, I seem to be remembering one of the girl's pet.

 

[marylamby]

Well you made me think! I can see how ‘ encouraged them” sounds like she was jumping around with Pom poms and pushing them out the door. All I really meant was that she didn’t object to it.
I’m guessing that you listened to your gut in time? Hope so. I think we’ve all learned lessons that our instincts are invariably right, I don’t doubt mine anymore.

HAHAH! POM POMS! Too funny.
I deleted my comment as it was TMI. To all women out there - trust your intuition, always.

 

[mrjitty]

HAHAH! POM POMS! Too funny.
I deleted my comment as it was TMI. To all women out there - trust your intuition, always.

+1

And as to the criminal justice system, when a woman tells us her fears, in her own voice, then is silenced, we need to think about whether our precedents about "prejudicial evidence" are effective, or out of date patriarchal structures that operate to protect abusers

 

[mrjitty]

Yes I hope the State focus is more on how controlling BM was and about the issues with money.
Trying to prove that he knew about the affair will be hard to prove ( although I’m sure he did, just not WHO it was with).
Thankfully they have the pen recording of SM saying that 80% of their arguments were about money.
And BM’s own statements that Marriage Is For Life!
He wasn’t about to let her walk out.
Crazy that he’s angry at her friend for not counseling her better.
JMO
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21cr78 Morphew Redacted Affidavit.pdf

Yes

Abusers are good at finding the control points and levers.

What I note is BM took everything that was hers.

 

[Kemug]

He wasn’t about to let her walk out.
Crazy that he’s angry at her friend for not counseling her better.

RSBM

Not crazy at all from Barry's viewpoint - "blaming everyone else" is his middle name.

 

[303gmf]

Spotted hanging out near Salida today:

Mountain lion trees in Salida

Boulder too!
Luckily no bike riders disappeared to blame the pretty kitty’s

 

[FromGermany1]

Yes I hope the State focus is more on how controlling BM was and about the issues with money.
Trying to prove that he knew about the affair will be hard to prove ( although I’m sure he did, just not WHO it was with).
Thankfully they have the pen recording of SM saying that 80% of their arguments were about money.
And BM’s own statements that Marriage Is For Life!
He wasn’t about to let her walk out.
Crazy that he’s angry at her friend for not counseling her better.
JMO
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21cr78 Morphew Redacted Affidavit.pdf

I don't understand well: Didn't he plan to pay back in time the borrowed money (inheritance, used for PP home) or did he ask for other/more money?? Where should she have gotten that from, if it wasn't the inheritance money?

 

[FromGermany1]

Personally I don't believe the affairs of SM and BM go directly to motive.

It's about the breakdown of the marriage and SM's exit that is what provided the temporal trigger point. BM obviously knew/suspected SMs affair for months - why else did he have a secret spy camera? I don't think he murdered her over the affair. Nor was he secretly watching her remotely that afternoon.

It was about the money, and SM's efforts to escape.

These murders frequently occur then when woman tries to exit.

Apropos "affair" and relevant or not:
Didn't he say at one point in the early weeks after Suzanne's disappearing something like "People don't know the truth"?? But obviously BM knew. Did he give his "knowledge" about the affair away, as he always did/does with things, which are pointing to motive?

 

[FromGermany1]

IIRC, Suzanne communicated that she didn't feel safe being alone with Barry only a matter of days before he killed her. Might've been to JL.
While no one may have planned the trip for them, that doesn't mean someone, namely BM, didn't put a seed out there, specifically to M1.
I don't think Suzanne would've objected to the girls enjoying a vacation - for them. She'd been sacrificing her whole adult life and lived for her girls. That, to me, is a far cry from encouraging them to go.
IMO, Barry was always guarded in front of others, even in front of S2. What she saw? Pfft! That was nothing. That's what he allowed her to see and he had to hold himself back.
I'm sure there were many times she was at her boyfriend's home or wherever. That's when the REAL Barry came out.
Only Suzanne got to know Hyde intimately.
IMO, he was escalating quickly and as the days passed while the girls were gone, Suzanne knew it. She just didn't want to believe it. I think she believed he might be violent again but I don't think she ever thought he'd kill her. He kept that part of himself hidden, as any pseudo-intelligent psychopath would.
IMO

What a pity, that Suzanne had asked her friend/neighbour JR not to visit also. Even more opportunity for Barry to follow his plans step by step. Why didn't Suzanne rather ask for JR's visits 2 times a day? Because Barry would have been much more angry than he was anyway?

 

[FromGermany1]

Bringing another post over from @Momofthreeboys in response to my comment....

[We've all had the same questions about the girls' trip and BM's. Would LOVE to know the answers.]

["My guess is MM1 and her GF. It was right after exams ended. Macy probably wanted to go or her sister wanted her to come. If it is coincidental to Suzanne’s disappearance it is also coincidental to an end of the college year exams road-trip getaway. One of mine would leave for a rafting trip right after spring exams. Barry seemed vague about the trip but I think Suzanne had the details and she dropped MM2 off in Gunnison according to documents. I also suspect they had to have asked the girls about the trip and if it was anything Barry had suggested investigators would have jumped all over it as one more piece of evidence."]

Barry seems to have been in control early on, IMO, as he always has been and I'm not so sure LE knows who planned this excursion at all.
He didn't necessarily have to PLAN it so much as to suggest it. I think we know it wasn't a church arranged trip.
Didn't Barry's sister go along with them (Shirley?) or was that simply a rumor?
"Barry seemed vague about the trip...?" Say it isn't so. "..but I think Suzanne had the details...?" Did not see anything of the sort.
Suzanne dropped off M2 to M1. That's all we know for sure.

What would speak against it, if BM had promised his daughter MM1 money, so that she and her sister MM2 could go on a nice trip far away, take MM1's girlfriend with them (BM paying for the costs) and the three of them could celebrate MM1's graduation. In return, MM1 shouldn't reveal anything about her father's suggestion. Would have been a quite normal arrangement, at least perhaps in the M-household, IMO.

 

[susiQ]

BBM
I thought SM was scared to be alone with BM?

I must admit, this has me confused. She indicated she was afraid to be alone with him, YET, there was texting about biking and hiking? The last thing I would do is go hiking in CO with someone I was scared to be alone with. Although, she also said he wouldn’t cross that line, “he’s learned,” or something to that effect. Perhaps, she was just trying to keep things civil and truly believed he was incapable of doing her mortal harm? If only she had understood he was VERY capable .

 

[Love Never Fails]

Lol. He sure is!

It's important because guilty people accuse innocent people all the time. Barry threw out the names of multiple people, to include members of Suzanne's own family.

The best part is he knew that guilty people do that, and proceeded to do it anyway. He did the same with "I don't recall."

So in this instance, he accused some poor dude who sold CBD, and utilized purchase orders (as drug dealers obviously do).

Because as everyone knows, you buy your hard drugs at a farmer's market next to the elderly woman selling selling broccoli and beets.

Barry is nothing if not a liar and an exaggerator, and he tried to pass off CBD as drugs, and basically said Suzanne drinking wine made her an alcoholic.

"She turned into the female Charlie Sheen," or something.

What an absolute clown.

Love your post! Always do. Thanks for brightening my morning.

 

[Niner]

Anyone know "what" happened to the felony forgery of public records (voter fraud) charges?

Chaffee County #D82021CR85

Last time I saw anything was a status hearing that was supposed to held in Chaffee County at the same time of a hearing in Fremont County. - if my brain cells are correct - it could have been the 2/10 hear -
They seemed to have "disappeared" from Chaffee county court site & not on Fremont County. ??

TIA!