marylamby
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Damn you're good!This also seems to indicate she thought her father was at home, not at his big, important job in Broomfield.
Damn you're good!This also seems to indicate she thought her father was at home, not at his big, important job in Broomfield.
@justtrish sbm for focus. Thx for your post. Yes, BM may have heard podcast & considered the push-her-off-cliff technique but may have thought of a potential drawback: Fall causing injuries, not fatality....4. It was Barry trying to set a plan in motion and then he decided against the hiking plan as a way to get rid of her.
Side note: I listened to a podcast recently about a couple that went hiking and the woman "fell" to her death... turned out he pushed her. I wonder if Barry had listened to a podcast on that story and was kicking the idea around?
Very funny! I recently saw that in a movie where a man said something to that effect.Snipped from post made by @marylamby in thread 96
re BM ogling women:
" ....Barry and Suzanne had A PERFECT MARRIAGE, remember? Yet another lie from the man..."
@marylamby bbm sbm Thx for your post.
Despite BM's ogling - and possibly much, much more - he may have believed he had a perfect marriage, w no thought given to Suzanne's take on the marriage.
Is it possible he was not deliberately lying about his feelings about their relationship. At least not until Spring 202o when he saw her drastically changing. But then telling LE & others sooo many lies.
Remember the old line (joke?), a man in bar replies to woman:
"This band on my left ring finger? Well, my wife is married but I'm not. Lemme buy you a drink."
bbmI agree! When she texted, "wanna meet to hike", and he didn't respond to that . . .
ETA: Including text snippet from Page 34 of the AA:
On May 9, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Suzanne's texted Barry, "Want to hike?"
At 10:36 AM, Suzanne texted Barry, "Wanna meet to hike?"
At 10:48 AM Barry responded, "No. I'll come home."
JMVHO.
I don't follow you, heck it's hard to follow any of it but on a completely unrelated note - -I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly but it looks like the date of Barry's offense of 'Public Servant - Attempt to Influence' was on 5/9/20 which was 4 days after his arrest?Can anyone here who knows way more about this document explain what the meaning of:
"Keep Protected-contains sa vic info*****"
which I presume to mean sexual assault victim.
It is Exhibits 27, 30,and 26 on page 5 at this link:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Freemont/Morphew/MORPHEW ROA AS OF 3_1_22.pdf
Is that pertaining to the victims of the DNA on the glove box, or something found in email discovery?
As @OldCop said, Barry couldn't be in two places at once. He told them where he was, even though there was no job.Well, I don't think she would have been thinking that one of them was dead, JMO. More likely, she thought that they were arguing for hours, with maybe yelling and sobbing. And even "only" that would be particularly sad on Mothers Day.
file:///C:/Users/Owner/AppData/Local/Temp/21cr78%20Morphew%20Redacted%20Affidavit-4.pdfDoes anyone still have a link for the AA. I thought it was downloaded on this tablet but can't find it. I tried the link on the first page and doesn't show it there now. Thanks!
I agree! When she texted, "wanna meet to hike", and he didn't respond to that . . .
ETA: Including text snippet from Page 34 of the AA:
JMVHO.
bbm
Can we say, that at 10:48 AM his final plan probably was completed in his mind?
@swedeheartI don't follow you, heck it's hard to follow any of it but on a completely unrelated note - -I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly but it looks like the date of Barry's offense of 'Public Servant - Attempt to Influence' was on 5/9/20 which was 4 days after his arrest?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You don't need physical evidence to reach a conclusion. The Schelling case had no body or physical evidence, and it resulted in a conviction. Cell phone evidence and lies go a very long way. We're way past "CSI."
In crime investigations, digital evidence ‘outweighs’ DNA
“From trespassing to capital murder, there are pieces of digital evidence,” Hillman said. “DNA is important, but digital evidence outweighs it 100 percent.”
Digital evidence from cell phones or computers can often provide leads, information and hard evidence. DNA is still useful, Hillman said, but an electronic trail is present more often than DNA in most cases.
“If you think about it DNA was very critical and does play a big role in what we do, but it’s only in a very small percentage of our cases,” Hillman said. “Digital evidence, however, is in 90 percent of our cases.”
They have no proof that we know about. No body, no physical evidence tied to a crime, just innuendos. I think he did it but don't see how they can convict.
To piggy back off your eloquent analysis, Prosecutors must adhere to a special ethical rules while carrying out their duties. In criminal cases, a defendant must be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, this is a very high bar, jurors must be 99% a person committed a crime to find them guilty. To bring criminal charges against someone, the prosecutor must believe, given the facts and evidence of a case, that they can prove a person is guilty of a crime, beyond a reasonable doubt. if they htink they have a 50/50 shot of winning, bring the case to trial is a violation of ethics rules.That is simply not true but thanks for playing. We all know the body is the most important evidence of a murder investigation. BM thought about this event often and for a long time. He knew, due to his hunting and tracking skills, how to secret Suzanne in those mountains so that she could not be found; although not for a lack of trying. He hunted his wife that Mother's Day Weekend, tracked her down and, without a thought about her children, murdered her then discarded her body because she was "done" with him.
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To piggy back off your eloquent analysis, Prosecutors must adhere to a special ethical rules while carrying out their duties. In criminal cases, a defendant must be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, this is a very high bar, jurors must be 99% a person committed a crime to find them guilty. To bring criminal charges against someone, the prosecutor must believe, given the facts and evidence of a case, that they can prove a person is guilty of a crime, beyond a reasonable doubt. if they htink they have a 50/50 shot of winning, bring the case to trial is a violation of ethics rules.
Interesting breakdown...especially the part about what witnesses will and will not be allowed to testify to at trial.
In his view the trial will be way different than the AA and even the prelim.
I too wonder; if Agent Grusing believes BM guilty, what made him know that, and at what time during the "befriending" relationship did it occur?I wonder what Grusing's success rate is?
Well, my guess is Agent Grusing strongly suspected BM was guilty before he even interviewed himI too wonder; if Agent Grusing believes BM guilty, what made him know that, and at what time during the "befriending" relationship did it occur?
It goes beyond BM's "absolute refusal"...which you correctly noted: It is also BM's often expressed declaration that "marriage is for life". That can and should be interpreted in the literal sense.I would characterize the motive as the divorce and BM's absolute refusal to concede to it. It was SM's expressed determination to go through with it and the signs that she was already moving on that triggered BM's decision to physically act to prevent the divorce. SM was no longer allowing her intentions to regain her own life to be impacted by BM's denial, dismissiveness, argumentativeness, intimidation, and threats of self-harm. So, he escalated to a form of control that would more effectively serve his ends.
I would submit that BM's definition of a "perfect marriage" does in fact differ greatly from conventional thought. If he gets his way, its perfect. There really aren't any other factors for him to consider.Snipped from post made by @marylamby in thread 96
re BM ogling women:
" ....Barry and Suzanne had A PERFECT MARRIAGE, remember? Yet another lie from the man..."
@marylamby bbm sbm Thx for your post.
Despite BM's ogling - and possibly much, much more - he may have believed he had a perfect marriage, w no thought given to Suzanne's take on the marriage.
Is it possible he was not deliberately lying about his feelings about their relationship. At least not until Spring 202o when he saw her drastically changing. But then telling LE & others sooo many lies.
Remember the old line (joke?), a man in bar replies to woman:
"This band on my left ring finger? Well, my wife is married but I'm not. Lemme buy you a drink."