Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #98

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  • #141
My guess is the judge is very familiar with Rule 404. DV in courts is evolving and in the last decade some states have been solidifying case law around what may be admitted and what cannot be admitted with regard to prior acts to address the issue of DV. We have no idea how prosecution crafted their argument here, any case law they cited, nor any rebuttal arguments from defense. On surface there just doesn't appear to be enough evidence to out weigh the decision the judge made in my opinion...operative word being "enough". In my opinion this would not be a case I would pick were I to try and set precedence in Colorado. It is also my opinion that prosecution does not need to give the defense more ammo for an appeal. They already have a published letter claiming Suzanne is deceased, although that has not been legally determined to be dead and that she was murdered by her husband with the DV angle, and he had not yet been found guilty. IMO, defense doesn't need "more" ammo.
RSBM - Agreed - it's really annoying!
Sorry you are annoyed. You and Seattle look at this from the legal standpoint of citing other cases. Are we not allowed to be annoyed that the judge can merely look at Suzanne’s texts and come to the same conclusion victims of dv do?
 
  • #142
@Seattle1 - do you know if they (DA) had to take off the
"amended (5/18/21) to add domestic violence as sentencing enhancement. "

I still have this on my notes - and wondering if this should be taken off.

TIA! :)
No - the charges remain as true as amended with the DV enhancer. The only difference is Lama said that under Colorado law, the relevant evidence and/or information presented by prosecutors could not be admitted in the way it was presented to the court.
 
  • #143
Sorry you are annoyed. You and Seattle look at this from the legal standpoint of citing other cases. Are we not allowed to be annoyed that the judge can merely look at Suzanne’s texts and come to the same conclusion victims of dv do?

I just think that it is mischaracterization to assume the judge is blinded or biased. He's well aware of current law. He's well aware of what can cause an appeal and judges don't like to make decisions that cause appeals. If Barry were being charged with different charges than what he is being charged with I might even feel differently. These is zero evidence in my opinion that this judge should be taken off the case or sanctioned someway because of his ruling as wishful thinking as that may be for people who are aggrieved. Being annoyed is always OK. We all get annoyed at times.
 
  • #144
My guess is the judge is very familiar with Rule 404. DV in courts is evolving and in the last decade some states have been solidifying case law around what may be admitted and what cannot be admitted with regard to prior acts to address the issue of DV. We have no idea how prosecution crafted their argument here, any case law they cited, nor any rebuttal arguments from defense. On surface there just doesn't appear to be enough evidence to out weigh the decision the judge made in my opinion...operative word being "enough". In my opinion this would not be a case I would pick were I to try and set precedence in Colorado. It is also my opinion that prosecution does not need to give the defense more ammo for an appeal. They already have a published letter claiming Suzanne is deceased, although she has not been legally determined to be dead and that she was murdered by her husband with the DV angle, and he had not yet been found guilty. IMO, defense doesn't need "more" ammo.

BIB

The trial does not determine this.
 
  • #145
Sorry you are annoyed. You and Seattle look at this from the legal standpoint of citing other cases. Are we not allowed to be annoyed that the judge can merely look at Suzanne’s texts and come to the same conclusion victims of dv do?

I meant it is annoying we can't read the details of the ruling. :)

For lawyers, speculating about decisions without first reading the judgement is a longstanding joke - politicians routinely do this for example.

It's similar to citing a case you haven't read.
 
  • #146
I meant it is annoying we can't read the details of the ruling. :)

For lawyers, speculating about decisions without first reading the judgement is a longstanding joke - politicians routinely do this for example.

It's similar to citing a case you haven't read.
I agree we haven’t been able to read or see all the rulings, motions, evidence, etc.
For you and Seattle to do this for us when it is available is much appreciated. My statements are not of the legal variety. It’s my opinion only.
 
  • #147
This is just sour grapes on my part but it's incredibly frustrating we are restricted to what's actually happening in the courtroom during these hearings. The reporters are doing the best they can with their limitations but I would like to see an additional (maybe non local) reporter in the mix who has experience in reporting on murder cases such as this. An investigative reporter would be refreshing as well. Here's to hoping when the trial is happening there's more of an interest on a national level with reporting from the courtroom. IMO
 
  • #148
I agree we haven’t been able to read or see all the rulings, motions, evidence, etc.
For you and Seattle to do this for us when it is available is much appreciated. My statements are not of the legal variety. It’s my opinion only.

Cool - i am also frustrated at the ruling.
 
  • #149
This is just sour grapes on my part but it's incredibly frustrating we are restricted to what's actually happening in the courtroom during these hearings. The reporters are doing the best they can with their limitations but I would like to see an additional (maybe non local) reporter in the mix who has experience in reporting on murder cases such as this. An investigative reporter would be refreshing as well. Here's to hoping when the trial is happening there's more of an interest on a national level with reporting from the courtroom. IMO

Well to be fair, this is only the pretrial procedural stuff and not the actual trial.

The general public doesn't care about this technical stuff.
 
  • #150
MemPat, I’m so sorry and agree with you a thousand percent!
Same here my dear and then I married an abuser. Did I call the cops nope finally I divorced and his new fiancé called the police he held her at gun point for 14hours. But, this man has been abusing women since he was in his 20s and finally, finally justice will happen. Domestic violence victims are so silenced, embarrassed that they allowed it afraid no one will believe them. Afraid they will just tell them to leave and it’s really not that simple, it’s not.
 
  • #151
Sorry you are annoyed. You and Seattle look at this from the legal standpoint of citing other cases. Are we not allowed to be annoyed that the judge can merely look at Suzanne’s texts and come to the same conclusion victims of dv do?

Actually, we looked at this not from the legal standpoint of citing other cases but from a 1990 Colorado Supreme Court decision that's since become the standard to apply a specific, 4-part analysis to determine whether or not prior acts are admissible as evidence.

Prior to "the rule," the court of appeals (1988) held that the trial court (1985) erred in admitting the prior incident evidence, reversed the defendant's conviction, and remanded the case for a new trial, (and where the Supreme Court agreed that the trial court erred in admitting the evidence and therefore affirmed the judgment of the court of appeals). (1990 People v Spotto).

To be clear, Judge Lama did view SM's texts (and BM's self-incriminating statements) as relevant but Colorado law-- not Judge Lama-- prohibited the prior acts (SM texts, etc.) from being admitted as prior acts evidence.

"(The information) is relevant and raises great suspicion, but only if I use it in a prohibited purpose," Lama said before revealing his decision, citing several legal analysis techniques he used to make his decision.

Ultimately, what the prosecution had to work with here for DV was insufficient to be admitted as prior act evidence. MOO

Judge denies motions in Barry Morphew hearing | 9news.com
 
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  • #152
There has been so much learned in the last few years about domestic violence and the ways in which it occurs, that no judge should be blind or one sided. There are men of all walks of life who participate in this kind of violence to a degree and they appear to let other men off the hook for it. Suzanne spoke of it in a text, she spoke of fear of being alone with Barry, her daughter encouraged her to get a restraining order, and Barry even admitted to hitting her when he clipped her nose. Then you have emotional abuse from control. It’s all there. Barry didn’t have to beat her daily for the abuse to come through loud and clear.

Judge Murphy recused himself because of knowing SD and her attorney. If justice is not served because we have to wait additional time for a judge who is fair, so be it. I would like to see Judge L recuse himself, because although he can site one case for his decision, he cannot ignore the evidence leading up to the murder. IMO.

I’m not a lawyer, but I am a victim and will stand for the rights of the victim every time.

I am praying there is someone, anyone schooled in the law who will go to bat for Suzanne now so that Justice is served.
BBM.

I'm with you in spirit!

But a trial court judge is bound by Supreme Court precedent to apply the Spoto test, which allows the trial judge wide discretion to balance probative value and unfair prejudice. As a practical matter, I don't think the People have any real chance to reverse the ruling excluding the DV expert on appeal.

To me, the decision is just another example of the need to educate the judiciary about domestic violence, and about the limitations involved in trying to do so in the context of a single case. But I haven't given up hope.

I know personally one of the plaintiffs in a case that made a big difference in advancing the rights and opportunities of women to participate in university athletics. However, their case did not begin auspiciously: the (female) judge denied the plaintiffs' motion for a preliminary injunction, finding that they were unlikely to succeed on the merits.

But they were operating in the context of public advocates for women who sought to educate judges around the country about the manifest disparities in opportunities for women in athletics that resulted from a history of discrimination based on unfair stereotypes, logical fallacies, false ideology, and the blindness of college administrators - all of whom were male. While the case was pending, a highly respected and charismatic woman who coached the local university team invited the judge to meet the team and travel with them to a tournament.

It seems the judge gained insights from the experience. She ultimately ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, setting an important precedent that continues to influence the interpretation and application of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972.

This kind of cultural influence on a judge in a pending case may or may not happen in People v Morphew, but IMO it exemplifies the kind of work we must engage in to be sure that judges who have discretion under the law apply it fairly, with a fully informed understanding of what happens to women who are in abusive relationships, like SM.

I am encouraged that women are speaking out about Judge L's decision, and I hope very much that their efforts succeed. They MUST continue even if Judge L is unmoved, and even if there is no pending cause celebre.

Do not despair: if we persevere in these educational efforts, we will secure a better future for our daughters.
 
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  • #153
Actually, we looked at this not from the legal standpoint of citing other cases but from a 1990 Colorado Supreme Court decision that's since become the standard to apply a specific, 4-part analysis to determine whether or not prior acts are admissible as evidence.

Prior to "the rule," the court of appeals (1988) held that the trial court (1985) erred in admitting the prior incident evidence, reversed the defendant's conviction, and remanded the case for a new trial, (and where the Supreme Court agreed that the trial court erred in admitting the evidence and therefore affirmed the judgment of the court of appeals). (1990 People v Spotto).

To be clear, Judge Lama did view SM's texts (and BM's self-incriminating statements) as relevant but Colorado law-- not Judge Lama-- prohibited the prior acts (SM texts, etc.) from being admitted as prior acts evidence.

"(The information) is relevant and raises great suspicion, but only if I use it in a prohibited purpose," Lama said before revealing his decision, citing several legal analysis techniques he used to make his decision.

Ultimately, what the prosecution had to work with here for DV was insufficient to be admitted as prior act evidence. MOO

Judge denies motions in Barry Morphew hearing | 9news.com
Please explain the judges language about using it only in a prohibitive purpose. I hate admitting this but I don’t understand. Just because CO decided in one case not to accept a verdict, is CO then as a whole going to stop those abused from getting justice? Do the decent people of CO have to hope and pray that the DA in every case can word something in a way that pleases the court for it to be introduced? Even when there’s clear evidence from the texts of the deceased?

That’s where I have a problem. I keep going back to the law bring a game. The side with the best attorney wins. In sports that’s fine. But this is a case of murder.
 
  • #154
Suzanne wasn't ready to leave until she was ready, and IMO she did what many women do when they're in unhealthy relationships. She covered. For him, for the marriage, for the image-- always hopeful for change. Suzanne confided to a degree in SO but she probably did that in person and over the phone precisely to avoid a written record. Like I said, she wasn't IMO ready to lay it Bare. She protected herself from discovery by Barry .....

How fortunate we are that she kept a journal. Perhaps there are dates and times and specifics, in her own handwriting.

Whelp.

It's really disheartening that oblitering a person and her words can work in a defendant's favor. I really want him held to the fire for that.

I hope LE checked every bank for a safety deposit box in case she kept a record. Sonewhere, anywhere. If only Suzanne and everywoman knew to document, document, document. It may be the only voice left.

It's hard to leave a marriage, it's hard to face DV and see it for what it is.

And I just want to say this personally, too late but I want to say it anyway, how ever this trial goes, what ever the outcome, Suzanne, I believe you.

JMO
 
  • #155
<VR bolded by subscriber merely to segue , infra.>

Concur, in spades, Mom 2 Chlo':
- my youngest daughter's name as well; 36 in Aug? Oy! -

Your well-founded argument keys to the inherently vexatious process whereby we hope to "discover truth" from a pitched adversarial, almost cripplingly-structured contest.

It was while searching for some support as to my evidence classroom recollection/ dream(?) - posted earlier - that "Every person owes their testimony to the State/Crown", that I was rewarded by discovering this observation by Stanley Baldwin, thrice British Prime Minister, uniquely so, during the momentous years between the World Wars.

"I am not struck so much by the diversity of testimony
as by the many-sidedness of truth."

Stanley Baldwin, (1867 - 1947)
1st Earl Baldwin of Bewdley
KG, PC, PC (Can), JP, FRS

[Oh, to have for the merest moment, in some single consideration, such a degree of perception as this...
And to recognize that moment.
And express it.
Before it slips away.
'cause it was nap time.]



BBM.

This is a very insightful and intriguing post! Thank you for reminding us of the elusive and complex nature of Truth.

Is there an existing judicial model you prefer to the structured adversarial trial by jury that Americans and Brits so staunchly support and revere?
 
  • #156
BBM.

I'm with you in spirit!

But a trial court judge is bound by Supreme Court precedent to apply the Spoto test, which allows the trial judge wide discretion to balance probative value and unfair prejudice. As a practical matter, I don't think the People have any real chance to reverse the ruling excluding the DV expert on appeal.

To me, the decision is just another example of the need to educate the judiciary about domestic violence, and about the limitations involved in trying to do so in the context of a single case. But I haven't given up hope.

I know personally one of the plaintiffs in a case that made a big difference in advancing the rights and opportunities of women to participate in university athletics. However, their case did not begin auspiciously: the (female) judge denied the plaintiffs' motion for a preliminary injunction, finding that they were unlikely to succeed on the merits.

But they were operating in the context of public advocates for women who sought to educate judges around the country about the manifest disparities in opportunities for women in athletics that resulted from a history of discrimination based on unfair stereotypes, logical fallacies, false ideology, and the blindness of college administrators - all of whom were male. While the case was pending, a highly respected and charismatic woman who coached the local university team invited the judge to meet the team and travel with them to a tournament.

It seems the judge gained insights from the experience. She ultimately ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, setting an important precedent that continues to influence the interpretation and application of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972.

This kind of cultural influence on a judge in a pending case may or may not happen in People v Morphew, but IMO it exemplifies the kind of work we must engage in to be sure that judges who have discretion under the law apply it fairly, with a fully informed understanding of what happens to women who are in abusive relationships, like SM.

I am encouraged that women are speaking out about Judge L's decision, and I hope very much that their efforts succeed. They MUST continue even if Judge L is unmoved, and even if there is no pending cause celebre.

Do not despair: if we persevere in these educational efforts, we will secure a better future for our daughters.
Barry Morphew must be loving his new judge.

How is a better future secured for my daughters/granddaughters if even one more case disallows DV evidence?

I know abuse exists with both genders but I am interested in fairness in this case.
 
  • #157
BBM.

I'm with you in spirit!

But a trial court judge is bound by Supreme Court precedent to apply the Spoto test, which allows the trial judge wide discretion to balance probative value and unfair prejudice. As a practical matter, I don't think the People have any real chance to reverse the ruling excluding the DV expert on appeal.

To me, the decision is just another example of the need to educate the judiciary about domestic violence, and about the limitations involved in trying to do so in the context of a single case. But I haven't given up hope.

I know personally one of the plaintiffs in a case that made a big difference in advancing the rights and opportunities of women to participate in university athletics. However, their case did not begin auspiciously: the (female) judge denied the plaintiffs' motion for a preliminary injunction, finding that they were unlikely to succeed on the merits.

But they were operating in the context of public advocates for women who sought to educate judges around the country about the manifest disparities in opportunities for women in athletics that resulted from a history of discrimination based on unfair stereotypes, logical fallacies, false ideology, and the blindness of college administrators - all of whom were male. While the case was pending, a highly respected and charismatic woman who coached the local university team invited the judge to meet the team and travel with them to a tournament.

It seems the judge gained insights from the experience. She ultimately ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, setting an important precedent that continues to influence the interpretation and application of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972.

This kind of cultural influence on a judge in a pending case may or may not happen in People v Morphew, but IMO it exemplifies the kind of work we must engage in to be sure that judges who have discretion under the law apply it fairly, with a fully informed understanding of what happens to women who are in abusive relationships, like SM.

I am encouraged that women are speaking out about Judge L's decision, and I hope very much that their efforts succeed. They MUST continue even if Judge L is unmoved, and even if there is no pending cause celebre.

Do not despair: if we persevere in these educational efforts, we will secure a better future for our daughters.
Barry Morphew must be loving his new judge.

How is a better future secured for my daughters/granddaughters if even one more case disallows DV evidence?

I know abuse exists with both genders but I am interested in fairness in this case.


Suzanne wasn't ready to leave until she was ready, and IMO she did what many women do when they're in unhealthy relationships. She covered. For him, for the marriage, for the image-- always hopeful for change. Suzanne confided to a degree in SO but she probably did that in person and over the phone precisely to avoid a written record. Like I said, she wasn't IMO ready to lay it Bare. She protected herself from discovery by Barry .....

How fortunate we are that she kept a journal. Perhaps there are dates and times and specifics, in her own handwriting.

Whelp.

It's really disheartening that oblitering a person and her words can work in a defendant's favor. I really want him held to the fire for that.

I hope LE checked every bank for a safety deposit box in case she kept a record. Sonewhere, anywhere. If only Suzanne and everywoman knew to document, document, document. It may be the only voice left.

It's hard to leave a marriage, it's hard to face DV and see it for what it is.

And I just want to say this personally, too late but I want to say it anyway, how ever this trial goes, what ever the outcome, Suzanne, I believe you.

JMO

Amen!
 
  • #158
I’m not exactly sure how Lama’s rulings will ultimately affect the trial. It seems to me that everything he has ruled on (that we are sure of, since it’s all been via tweet with no actual docs to read), is somewhat as it should be. If Suzanne never called LE, or documented injuries, a juror will have to decide whether or not Suzanne was a victim of DV. We have our opinion, just as jurors will. You have to follow the rules. Suzanne telling SO doesn’t make it a fact, but one could have an opinion based on that. They can hear Barry’s own words about “clipping her nose”, right? IE can hammer home all day that there is no evidence of DV, but there will still be other evidence to review that can lead to a conclusion. Suzanne didn’t disappear herself, so who is responsible? All roads lead to Barry.
 
  • #159
And this is no way to sanction the DA by sabotaging their case. In my whole life, I've never heard of such a thing.
Where are the victim's rights? I said it before and I'll say it again, why not just grant their motion to dismiss?
I'll personally start a fund to retry the case and give a generous donation, if the DA decides to dismiss without prejudice. Let's see how he rules in the upcoming hearings but the damage is already done.
IMO, Lama has a major bias in this case. I don't care who for or against but these are not the actions of a fair and nonprejudicial judge. This judge has got to go.
IMO
Agree. I think there is something wrong going on under the surface.
But also the whole AA was met with annoyance from the beginning.
 
  • #160
Please explain the judges language about using it only in a prohibitive purpose. I hate admitting this but I don’t understand. Just because CO decided in one case not to accept a verdict, is CO then as a whole going to stop those abused from getting justice? Do the decent people of CO have to hope and pray that the DA in every case can word something in a way that pleases the court for it to be introduced? Even when there’s clear evidence from the texts of the deceased?

That’s where I have a problem. I keep going back to the law bring a game. The side with the best attorney wins. In sports that’s fine. But this is a case of murder.
^^bbm

To be clear, Spoto test is not limited to domestic violence events.

In my posts, I've specifically omitted the details of the Spoto case in hope that readers would instead acknowledge the resultant Spoto test that trial courts have been using since the Supreme Court Decision of 1990, and reaffirmed with People v Garner, 2009.

In response, IMO, Judge Lama's prohibitive purpose means his admitting prior act DV evidence only by ignoring perhaps the 3rd and 4th prongs of the four-part analysis as set forth in People v Spoto (i.e., Spoto test). [Media did not report on the specific details of Judge Lama's 30-minute analysis during the hearing and no documents available to the public].

Before prior act evidence can be admitted against the defendant in a criminal case, the trial court must first conduct a four-part analysis as set forth in People v. Spoto.

That analysis requires the court to find, based upon the sufficiency of the prior act evidence proffered by the prosecution, that:

(l) the proffered evidence relates to a material fact;

(2) the evidence is logically relevant;

(3) the logical relevance is independent of any intermediate inference prohibited by C.R.E. 404(b), such as an inference that the defendant acted in conformity with his or her bad character; and

(4) the probative value of the evidence substantially outweighs the danger of unfair prejudice to the defendant.

In addition to the Spoto analysis, prior to admission of other crimes evidence, the court must be satisfied by a preponderance of the evidence that the defendant committed the other crime(s).

Colorado Criminal Domestic Violence Law – The Unfairness Of The Admission of Evidence of Character Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts – The So Called 404B – Similar Transactions Evidence
 
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