Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #98

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  • #281
So does anybody think the defense team will be so good at their jobs that they get Barry off?

I refuse to consider that atrocity could occur and got over that possibility a couple of months ago so that I may carry on regardless of the outcome.*

As for the inheritance, of course Suzanne would prefer for her daughters to receive what was always legally considered to be hers, even though she was raising her daughters to become happy, well adjusted and successful adults, just as many of us have done for our own. So, yeah. Barry certainly is robbing her daughters of what Suzanne would have meant for them. I agree with @Scootie98 that BM is squandering it on a high priced defense team since he killed their mother and prefers to avoid life in prison.

*Note to self: Find and view former trials of the DT in order to critique their methods of madness.

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  • #282
Been mulling on the incident where Suzanne nearly died. Mixed cleaners, according to Barry. :/

PFrazee sent his agent of death to his fiancée's house three times-- or four. Poisoned coffee, lead pipe....and when KK was unsuccessful, PFrazee took batters into his own hands.

Is it possible that Suzanne was poisoned, near fatally? Cause never found, cause never expected, because with Barry saying it was caused by mixing cleaners, I feel like it almost most certainly wasn't that.

Why'd he even bring it up? Would sure love to know what question, clarification, discovery elicited that volunteer-y response from him.

If the dart theory is true, he's not above poisoning people.

Completely unaware or emergently aware, Suzanne may have dodged a couple bullets over time. Er darts. Er poison darts.

Until he made sure one stuck.

JMO
 
  • #283
Been mulling on the incident where Suzanne nearly died. Mixed cleaners, according to Barry. :/

PFrazee sent his agent of death to his fiancée's house three times-- or four. Poisoned coffee, lead pipe....and when KK was unsuccessful, PFrazee took batters into his own hands.

Is it possible that Suzanne was poisoned, near fatally? Cause never found, cause never expected, because with Barry saying it was caused by mixing cleaners, I feel like it almost most certainly wasn't that.

Why'd he even bring it up? Would sure love to know what question, clarification, discovery elicited that volunteer-y response from him.

If the dart theory is true, he's not above poisoning people.

Completely unaware or emergently aware, Suzanne may have dodged a couple bullets over time. Er darts. Er poison darts.

Until he made sure one stuck.

JMO
He brought up alot of stuff...but without hearing or reading the entire context of a conversation sometimes it's difficult to understand why certain things were said.
 
  • #284
So does anybody think the defense team will be so good at their jobs that they get Barry off?

I do think this defense team will be strategic and will be prepared to dismantle this case the best they can. I'm concerned the state will not have the endurance to match them. IE strikes me as being skilled at rapid fire statements and questions and knows when to activate it and when to soften herself.

Will the jury all be like minded with the way they review this case? Will it take just one juror to question and struggle with SM's affair and say she lived a secret life, kept it from her best friend even. Then wonder how SM would react if her secret was exposed to her daughters, family, church, etc.? Would she feel tremendous shame, how would she deal with it? If it all came out that night did she turn her phone off herself to avoid any messages coming through from JL, not even wanting to risk it? Would she be able or want to attend a virtual wedding in that state of mind the next day? Did BM storm off in the middle of the night and she was alive? Did SM toss her bike and helmet herself from her RR(did it come out that JL got her into biking and she hated the sight of bike suddenly)? Did she end her own life and has not been recovered? I know this sounds bonkers but I believe it takes just one juror to question the states case after this skilled defense team pokes enough holes into it. IMO

I'm concerned and for the record think BM murdered SM. I'm however not confident like I was in LS being responsible for Gannon being missing before her arrest, and Frazee in Kelsey's case. IMO
 
  • #285
GO White !!! Go Spartans !!!

Thank you- he thinks he is ready for my shenanigans for today----
March Madness and St Patrick's Day ( which is our anniversary also LOL)
Going to be a crazy day for sure.
Good to hear your husband is feeling better.
Happy Anniversary!
 
  • #286
So does anybody think the defense team will be so good at their jobs that they get Barry off?
My answer is no.

E&N are competent and diligent. They've done everything I would expect of such counsel, in raising issues for the judge to consider, and they have succeeded where I would expect them to succeed. But nothing more than that.

They got lucky in the PE/PH hearing when the prosecutor went down an evidentiary rabbit hole with the DNA evidence and they pounced on it to mislead Judge M to believe that LE failed to pursue an alternate suspect. BM's gift was release on bond.

But you don't need to be Hank Aaron to hit a fat pitch over the fence.

My attorney parents agreed that skilled counsel can't perform miracles with bad facts. E&N are not magicians, and even if they were, they are still faced with a fusillade of bad facts that no legal legerdemain could make disappear.
 
  • #287
Nope. But I hope they literally drain every last dollar from his bank account, trying.
The irony of him losing all that money on a murder defense, compared to only losing half of it (more or less) if he just filed for divorce, brings me great satisfaction.

He deserves to be broke, alone, and in a cage.

jmo
You’ve been in my head!! :)
 
  • #288
My answer is no.

E&N are competent and diligent. They've done everything I would expect of such counsel, in raising issues for the judge to consider, and they have succeeded where I would expect them to succeed. But nothing more than that.

They got lucky in the PE/PH hearing when the prosecutor went down an evidentiary rabbit hole with the DNA evidence and they pounced on it to mislead Judge M to believe that LE failed to pursue an alternate suspect. BM's gift was release on bond.

But you don't need to be Hank Aaron to hit a fat pitch over the fence.

My attorney parents agreed that skilled counsel can't perform miracles with bad facts. E&N are not magicians, and even if they were, they are still faced with a fusillade of bad facts that no legal legerdemain could make disappear.
I agree with you. I think this is why they are throwing all the smoke and mirrors at it now, to try and prevent it going to trial - they must know that nobody will realistically believe Barry.

JMO
 
  • #289
I suppose anything can happen, but I find it hard to believe the defence can overcome the sheer volume of lies and circumstantial evidence there is in this case. There is absolutely nothing pointing in another direction. BM’s big lyin’ lion mouth should be enough to barry him.
JMO
 
  • #290
If it would benefit their client, I think E & N will create bother in an empty room. There are just too many things that can not be excused or explained in a way that makes BM blameless, though. All the telematic information, the ridiculous lies, eating steak off one plate, the Bloomfield job, the "Oh Suzanne" video and on and on. I just can not imagine reasonable people finding a way to brush that sort of stuff aside. It all goes back to BM.

I do hope the prosecution has got this buttoned up and buttoned down by trial. They have all the information needed to put BM behind bars for the rest of his life.
 
  • #291
Nope. But I hope they literally drain every last dollar from his bank account, trying.
The irony of him losing all that money on a murder defense, compared to only losing half of it (more or less) if he just filed for divorce, brings me great satisfaction.

He deserves to be broke, alone, and in a cage.

jmo

Any idea how much this has cost him so far (money wise), and ? how much might the trial cost also?
This losing money, for this tight wad, would be making him very angry.
Yippee.
 
  • #292
If you take those of us on this site, and others, as a facsimile of a large jury pool; it appears that nearly everyone believes Barry to be guilty.

Recent Colorado juries have found criminals guilty of murder, even in cases without a body. It’s possible that the jury will be turned off by the defense antics.
This is so reassuring! I’ve been worried for a few days.
 
  • #293
If you take those of us on this site, and others, as a facsimile of a large jury pool; it appears that nearly everyone believes Barry to be guilty.

Recent Colorado juries have found criminals guilty of murder, even in cases without a body. It’s possible that the jury will be turned off by the defense antics.
This is so reassuring! I’ve been worried for a few days.
 
  • #294
So does anybody think the defense team will be so good at their jobs that they get Barry off?

At this point, I don't think so.

I also do find it sad he is blowing all his money. No, leaving money to your children is not mandatory, but he killed Suzanne so these girls are without their mother. He is charged with murder and if he really did not do it, why would he need expensive lawyers? I'm curious how he knew of them or if they approached him or if a friend suggested them? If he does get away with this, it is because of some technicality or something that wasn't allowed to be admitted. There is no way he didn't do it. No other scenario makes any sense. He is blowing the money he does have and leaving he girls without either parent. The least he could do is not blow all the money and think of them.
 
  • #295
I thought this very recent change in the rules of discovery might be of interest (to fellow nerds):

"Court Revises Colo. RPC 3.8(d) Regarding Prosecutors’ Duties

The Colorado Supreme Court has revised Colorado Rule of Professional Conduct 3.8(d) concerning the special duties of prosecutors to disclose exculpatory evidence. The changes take effect July 1, 2022.

After receiving public comments and holding a public hearing, the Court issued a revised rule February 24, 2022. The changes include the following:

  • Prosecutors will be required to timely disclose to the defense all information, regardless of admissibility, that the prosecutor knows or reasonably should know tends to negate the guilt of the accused, mitigate the offense, or would affect a defendant’s decision about whether to accept a plea disposition. This information would include all unprivileged and unprotected mitigation information the prosecutor knows or reasonably should know could affect the sentence. The “knows or reasonably should know” language previously has not been an express component of Colo. Rules of Professional Conduct (RPC) 3.8(d).
  • An exception to this duty would exist when the prosecutor is relieved of this responsibility by statute, rule or protective order of the tribunal. That provision is very similar to the current exception in Colo. RPC 3.8(d).
  • The revised rule expressly provides that a prosecutor would not be allowed to condition plea negotiations on postponing disclosure of information known to the prosecutor that negates the guilt of the accused.
  • The revision also adds a new component relating to diligence specific to prosecutors. The prosecutor would be required to make diligent efforts to obtain information subject to this rule that the prosecutor knows or reasonably should know exists by making timely disclosure requests to agencies known to the prosecutor to be involved in the case, and alerting the defense to the information if the prosecution is unable to obtain it.
The Court’s rule change significantly revises Comment 3 to RPC 3.8(d) as well.

Finally, the Court added a new Comment 10 to Colo. RPC 3.8(d) to specify that “[t]he special responsibilities set forth in Rule 3.8 are in addition to a prosecutor’s ethical obligations contained in the other provisions of these Rules of Professional Conduct.”

I don't believe these changes affect any known issues in People v Morphew, but they could in the future...
 
  • #296
We are in Michigan
Hubby is home now -- he was AFib but his heart is now regulated and he is on meds and diet*

I was surprised to see it in the ER restrooms but was happy they are providing this resource for victims.

Then hubby told me they checked everywhere, and I mean, Everywhere on his body for signs of abuse and bruises, welts, etc.

Then the nurse came in and she said they go to seminars, etc and are trained on where to look on body other than the obvious and also--- HOW TO OBSERVE the significant other, spouse, BF, GF, or whoever comes into hospital with patient as she was telling me verbal clues they watch out for also.

Her (the nurse) mom is an advocate for victims of child abuse, domestic/spousal abuse in another county about 2 hours away.

I would love to have their trainer speak in public for non-medical people to be able to tell signs of abuse also-
Not just signs/ marks/bruises ON a person, but the verbal and non-verbal signs that the abuser /abused can give.
They also can pick up on sex traffickers/ the verbal and physical actions/reactions to watch for by trained medical personnel.

Good on Michigan! I didn’t realize you were close. I’m right under you in Indiana and we have nothing like that here and it sounds like a good plan.
I’m concerned like another poster who said it can put victims at risk because the hospital attendant would surely report it and then you have them releasing the victim potentially into the hands of the perpetrator.
 
  • #297
So does anybody think the defense team will be so good at their jobs that they get Barry off?
Unless they have another provable explanation for her disappearance, I say no. Unless the prosecution pulls a big blunder. These lawyers are sharp!
 
  • #298
So does anybody think the defense team will be so good at their jobs that they get Barry off?

I just don't know. I think there is more to come out from the defense. A great deal of things have already changed since the we all started being interested in the case. I think it's a crime of passion and that even more levels of family dysfunction will be brought out in the trial. Will probably get a lower sentence and not Murder 1.
 
  • #299
Sure it is possible. I have thohught that since the AA was released and it was affirmed when they couldn’t convince a judge of proof positive presumption great. It is anyone’s guess in my opinion if they can convince 12 jurors. It isn’t often we get to watch a case like this that is entirely circumstantial and no body to determine how, when and where she was murdered. They also have other charges that have barely been touched upon. So yes sure he theoretically could be found not guilty. It is the risk prosecution took.
BBM iirc the only hesitancy on the judge’s part at the prelim was concerning the dna. Now that it seems the dna, that was in question at the prelim, is no longer in question, I believe the judge would have ruled differently and there would have been no bail for Barry.
I believe Barry to be guilty. I come to this conclusion by reviewing the evidence and not bc I find BM to be an overall loathsome individual. I have served on a few juries snd have faith that the chosen jurors will come to my same conclusion. IMO
 
  • #300
Sure it is possible. I have thought that since the AA was released and it was affirmed when they couldn’t convince a judge of proof positive presumption great. It is anyone’s guess in my opinion if they can convince 12 jurors. It isn’t often we get to watch a case like this that is entirely circumstantial and no body to determine how, when and where she was murdered. They also have other charges that have barely been touched upon. So yes sure he theoretically could be found not guilty. It is the risk prosecution took.

Most no body convictions are based on fairly extensive circumstantial evidence rather than direct evidence (i.e. eye witness testimony, video, ballistics, etc)

List of murder convictions without a body
 
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