Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #98

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So I was reading the timeline <modsnip>. He drove straight to the RTD bus stop before even going to the HIE. He wasn't there long so what do we think he dumped there? Something he likely needed to get rid of fast and maybe he was thinking about it the entire drive there. He knew if he was caught with this item it would be bad news. So what would he need to dispose of before even going to HIE?

Her phone charger?

I think he dumped the phone closer to home. No way he was going to drive with it in his truck and risk it pinging or something. I think that is why he asked if they found the phone and he was sure they found it. I think he threw it out somewhere near the bike or between the bike and the helmet.

I can't think of anything else that would be more incriminating than anything else that he would need to throw it out first unless it was a bloody item or something he realized was contaminated more than say just clothing he had or the boots.
I think the phone and charger are together close to PP.
 
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So I was reading the timeline <modsnip>. He drove straight to the RTD bus stop before even going to the HIE. He wasn't there long so what do we think he dumped there? Something he likely needed to get rid of fast and maybe he was thinking about it the entire drive there. He knew if he was caught with this item it would be bad news. So what would he need to dispose of before even going to HIE?

Her phone charger?

I think he dumped the phone closer to home. No way he was going to drive with it in his truck and risk it pinging or something. I think that is why he asked if they found the phone and he was sure they found it. I think he threw it out somewhere near the bike or between the bike and the helmet.

I can't think of anything else that would be more incriminating than anything else that he would need to throw it out first unless it was a bloody item or something he realized was contaminated more than say just clothing he had or the boots.
I think he popped his GPS/SYNC fuse back in at the RTD bus stop that he removed at the PP house before leaving for Broomfield. IMO. There doesn't seem to be any telematics between these two points. If true, the question in my mind is did he put the fuse back in at the RTD bus stop so that LE would have proof he was in Broomfield, or did he pop it back in to also show all of his trash dumps? At both the HIE and MWH, he parks away from the dumpster and walks across the parking lots to dispose of trash. I still think it's possible he wanted the trash dumps seen to lure away interest near their home property.
 
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  • #463
Sorry, too obscure a reference. I was recalling the picture of BM and SD at the Antler Inn previosly posted, with SD in a wig .
In fact, I think there were TWO examples of wig-wearing folks that have turned up in this bizarre and long saga since SM seemingly evaporated from the face of the earth:
  • the Valentine's Day trip to the Antler Inn you've mentioned, and
  • Mr./Ms. Bike-Rider in the plaid shirt who rode by to catch a glimpse as the FBI dug up the homesite where dogs alerted at that new development NE of Salida ("Longhorn Ranch") where BM had purchased a lot in June 2020 and done some preliminary site work (putting in a well or a driveway, can't remember which).
So, if there WAS a wig-wearer in the MW parking lot that day, it could be either one. Or another, if there are now three.
 
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Oh I believe he was tossing stuff from his truck and I believe it isn’t the first time he used the opportunity of someone else’s trash. We just don’t know other than the shrub pot, and a pair of boots minus the shoelaces and I believe he said some darts — unfilled or filled — we don’t know and we don’t know what else he tossed unfortunately.
Yep. Just a pot, some boots and a tranq dart component. Standard.
 
  • #465
MG said that during that phone call he sounded as if he'd just had the worst night of his life.

Given the long stop at MW and the repetitive door openings and closings there (driver and passenger side), I've wondered whether BM met someone there to either pass things over (SM's phone or SIM card?... the gun from which the dart was shot?... the helmet which he'd kept to plant later to really "sell" the random abduction theory?...) or to exchange notes about how things had gone so far and next steps.

If he was meeting someone, maybe it was that person who suggested adding JP to the Broomfield job so JP would not be at DSI early the next week when LE might come asking questions. (BM had run into JP at DSI when BM showed up on Saturday to get his Bobcat blade changed. Maybe BM didn't want JP disclosing some particulars about that.). The first mention of adding JP to the job was in the phone call to MG which happened after he stopped at MW.

Alternatively, it could be that BM could not locate something he had intended to dump when he'd made that McDonald's stop, so he moved to a more discrete location to avoid attracting attention as he dug through his filthy and cluttered truck to see if he could find whatever that missing thing was (the needle sheath?... the substance he used in the needle?...or, the container that once held that substance?... SM's phone or SIM card?... Remember, he kept asking LE if they'd found SM's phone as though he expected that they would...) and his being unable to locate it caused some degree of panic. And maybe that was what accounted for the way he sounded to MG over the phone.

All MOO and speculative questions/possibilities.

Maybe he tore his truck apart in search of a sheath that wasn't there.

JMO
 
  • #466
Maybe he tore his truck apart in search of a sheath that wasn't there.

JMO
Just the thought of that brings a smile to my face!! :)
 
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I also think Suzanne is very close to PP. Whatever he did be it a cave, den, buried under a boulder, she's close.

Adventures in Purpose was there in the Fall searching. They were scared off by gun wielding men and black cars. They had been near the river, actually crossed it and saw these guys in the woods on the other side of the river. Were they close to discovering Suzanne? There's something about that river.
 
  • #469
What was BM doing before he left IN? Would be nice to know. Already asked but not yet answered.
 
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I also think Suzanne is very close to PP. Whatever he did be it a cave, den, buried under a boulder, she's close.

Adventures in Purpose was there in the Fall searching. They were scared off by gun wielding men and black cars. They had been near the river, actually crossed it and saw these guys in the woods on the other side of the river. Were they close to discovering Suzanne? There's something about that river.
Sounds like a whole gang. :eek: Perhaps LE/FBI should have been investigating for a few more months/years, as Cahill demanded? (Preferably with BM behind bars.)

Which shady people possibly did come with BM 2017/2018 from IN to CO? Or were already there and BM followed them perhaps?
Would be nice to learn of one day in the future, IF.
 
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In fact, I think there were TWO examples of wig-wearing folks that have turned up in this bizarre and long saga since SM seemingly evaporated from the face of the earth:
  • the Valentine's Day trip to the Antler Inn you've mentioned, and
  • Mr./Ms. Bike-Rider in the plaid shirt who rode by to catch a glimpse as the FBI dug up the homesite where dogs alerted at that new development NE of Salida ("Longhorn Ranch") where BM had purchased a lot in June 2020 and done some preliminary site work (putting in a well or a driveway, can't remember which).
So, if there WAS a wig-wearer in the MW parking lot that day, it could be either one. Or another, if there are now three.
I can't remember a wig from pics of the Antler's. Do you have the pic once more or a link for me?
 
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I think he popped his GPS/SYNC fuse back in at the RTD bus stop that he removed at the PP house before leaving for Broomfield. IMO. There doesn't seem to be any telematics between these two points. If true, the question in my mind is did he put the fuse back in at the RTD bus stop so that LE would have proof he was in Broomfield, or did he pop it back in to also show all of his trash dumps? At both the HIE and MWH, he parks away from the dumpster and walks across the parking lots to dispose of trash. I still think it's possible he wanted the trash dumps seen to lure away interest near their home property.
I think, he tried to avoid a pic/surveillance video of his truck together with a certain dumpster perhaps? Is he used to dump his "trash" always in that manner?
 
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So I was reading the timeline <modsnip>. He drove straight to the RTD bus stop before even going to the HIE. He wasn't there long so what do we think he dumped there? Something he likely needed to get rid of fast and maybe he was thinking about it the entire drive there. He knew if he was caught with this item it would be bad news. So what would he need to dispose of before even going to HIE?

Her phone charger?

I think he dumped the phone closer to home. No way he was going to drive with it in his truck and risk it pinging or something. I think that is why he asked if they found the phone and he was sure they found it. I think he threw it out somewhere near the bike or between the bike and the helmet.

I can't think of anything else that would be more incriminating than anything else that he would need to throw it out first unless it was a bloody item or something he realized was contaminated more than say just clothing he had or the boots.
In the first run, Morphew stopped next to a trash can at an RTD bus station for about 90 seconds, and the passenger and driver’s doors on his truck opened, Grusing testified.
Barry Morphew murder case: Husband made five "trash runs" on day wife went missing, FBI agent says

90 seconds are little time for throwing out something. And why did he open BOTH truck doors?? The thing, he perhaps threw out, can't have been so tiny, if he had to open the passenger door to grab it. IMO
 
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Don't get me wrong...prosecution has a probable cause case.....but the outcome in my opinion is going to depend entirely how tight they can present it minus the speculation that can be argued as to another possibility. @Scootie98, don't forget that one of Suzanne's gripes was Barry would take off for "days" after a fight. That is a plausible defense counter to why he went to Broomfield a day earlier than he planned. ..they had a big fight and he bolted just like he had before. I know what I think - there was probable cause as he had means, motive and opportunity and she's no where to be found....but I have read and been exposed to theories a juror will not have been exposed to.

BIB

I don't agree this would be a plausible counter.

First this version can't be placed in evidence unless BM testifies. Or if counsel tries to sock puppet it into existence, they are in fact speculating that BM is lying about his own versions and there was a fight with the victim who has gone missing?

This would seem disastrous to me.

I don't think they will offer a version outside of what BM himself claimed. BM won't testify IMO.
 
  • #476
I&E will have to disclose the nature of BM's defense sometime next week if they have not done so already. I agree I can't see them offering an alibi. The mountain lion theory never made it off the ground. "Gone girl" is completely implausible. Judge M completely discounted all these ideas. His doubts focused on SODDI but the investigation now seems to have closed that door.

What's left? There's an old trial lawyer's aphorism that goes, "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table." I&E will need to bring their foam pads IMO.

Yes - they will have to pretend the bumbling cops missed the evidence of the real killer.
 
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MG said that during that phone call he sounded as if he'd just had the worst night of his life.

Given the long stop at MW and the repetitive door openings and closings there (driver and passenger side), I've wondered whether BM met someone there to either pass things over (SM's phone or SIM card?... the gun from which the dart was shot?... the helmet which he'd kept to plant later to really "sell" the random abduction theory?...) or to exchange notes about how things had gone so far and next steps.

If he was meeting someone, maybe it was that person who suggested adding JP to the Broomfield job so JP would not be at DSI early the next week when LE might come asking questions. (BM had run into JP at DSI when BM showed up on Saturday to get his Bobcat blade changed. Maybe BM didn't want JP disclosing some particulars about that.). The first mention of adding JP to the job was in the phone call to MG which happened after he stopped at MW.

Alternatively, it could be that BM could not locate something he had intended to dump when he'd made that McDonald's stop, so he moved to a more discrete location to avoid attracting attention as he dug through his filthy and cluttered truck to see if he could find whatever that missing thing was (the needle sheath?... the substance he used in the needle?...or, the container that once held that substance?... SM's phone or SIM card?... Remember, he kept asking LE if they'd found SM's phone as though he expected that they would...) and his being unable to locate it caused some degree of panic. And maybe that was what accounted for the way he sounded to MG over the phone.

All MOO and speculative questions/possibilities.
Maybe I am missing something here....but I have seen no evidence that Barry met someone at MW or anywhere else. To suggest otherwise implicates a second suspect at best, and accessory at the very least. I think he acted alone entirely. Not to say that others weren't involved "unawares". That is possible. But anyone who would have met Barry and taken possession of articles would be subject to prosecution, and would know it. Further, if LE had any idea about who that might be....they would already have been interviewed about it.
 
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In the first run, Morphew stopped next to a trash can at an RTD bus station for about 90 seconds, and the passenger and driver’s doors on his truck opened, Grusing testified.
Barry Morphew murder case: Husband made five "trash runs" on day wife went missing, FBI agent says

90 seconds are little time for throwing out something. And why did he open BOTH truck doors?? The thing, he perhaps threw out, can't have been so tiny, if he had to open the passenger door to grab it. IMO
It depends on how he parked in proximity to the trash can. If the can was on the passenger side...Barry would get out, go around, and then open the passenger door to retrieve the item and get it into the trash can with better concealment than taking it out on the drivers door. He was, it seems, cognizant of potential observors or cameras....based upon how he parked away from dumpsters. jmo.
 
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