Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #98

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  • #501
At the very least, it's a safe bet that law enforcement checked those trash receptacles, in the off chance that it hadn't been dumped.

I've wondered all along why they didn't do a grid search at the dump wherever those public receptacles got emptied. I mean I know it's a huge job but we also know they can narrow it down fairly well to what section was dumped that week and you'd think the prospects of what might be found would be worth it. MOO
 
  • #502
Oh I believe he was tossing stuff from his truck and I believe it isn’t the first time he used the opportunity of someone else’s trash. We just don’t know other than the shrub pot, and a pair of boots minus the shoelaces and I believe he said some darts — unfilled or filled — we don’t know and we don’t know what else he tossed unfortunately.

I just think whatever it was, in his mind, was most damning and he wanted to toss it asap. He didn't want to stop on the drive because that would be suspicious. He instead thought stopping once he was there would seem more "normal" and if (big IF because I don't think he really thought LE would find out he stopped all over the place. I think he believed they would see him on video at the HIE and believe he was out of town and not involved in what happened to her).
So whatever this first stop was disposing of was quick (compared to his other stops) and I think he had it ready to throw out. He might have even forgot to dispose of it before heading to Broomfield and was thinking about it on the drive and decided to stop and toss it. He then is on camera at the HIE and seen with items and coming and going and then tossing more stuff so those items in my mind he thinks won't be suspicious if he was seen with them.
 
  • #503
Yes. He tried to disable them.

17:33:32 (Telematics) From “(UI) Events” “Power Removed” action occurred (UI)
Thank You
 
  • #504
I think the phone and charger are together close to PP.

If they find the phone and charger together then she couldn't have been "on a bike ride". Who takes a charger on a ride? I think he tossed the phone and I don't know why it hasn't been found. Then maybe he had the charger in the truck or maybe he did toss the charger with the phone.. just seems like an odd thing unless someone was going for a super long ride and had a solar charger to recharge along the way. I don't think she was ever riding that long yet being so new to biking.
 
  • #505
Any idea how much this has cost him so far (money wise), and ? how much might the trial cost also?
This losing money, for this tight wad, would be making him very angry.
Yippee.
I've previously linked a quote from one of E & N's former clients (acquitted of murder 2016) that his defense cost $400k.
 
  • #506
I think he popped his GPS/SYNC fuse back in at the RTD bus stop that he removed at the PP house before leaving for Broomfield. IMO. There doesn't seem to be any telematics between these two points. If true, the question in my mind is did he put the fuse back in at the RTD bus stop so that LE would have proof he was in Broomfield, or did he pop it back in to also show all of his trash dumps? At both the HIE and MWH, he parks away from the dumpster and walks across the parking lots to dispose of trash. I still think it's possible he wanted the trash dumps seen to lure away interest near their home property.

All the truck data is from the defense I believe. They have not included all that there is. They picked what suited them to share. There is definitely stuff missing from the phone data and the truck data, possibly the skidster data also. I wonder if there is more truck data they just left out from that drive? I thought the reset he attempted to do on the truck was earlier on Saturday? Wasn't there data showing he backed up in the driveway Saturday night like 9 or so PM? I need to go look again! Interesting idea here!
 
  • #507
I've wondered all along why they didn't do a grid search at the dump wherever those public receptacles got emptied. I mean I know it's a huge job but we also know they can narrow it down fairly well to what section was dumped that week and you'd think the prospects of what might be found would be worth it. MOO
We don't know for a fact that they haven't, but I'd love to know why not, if they didn't search.

Necrosearch has been heavily involved here, and that's another area they are experts in. Typically they tell law enforcement where in a landfill they should search for a body (Berreth case for example), but one would think that also applies to evidence.
 
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  • #508
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Wednesday night was the walk...

Barry is lying about being in an intimate relationship now. Not a stretch to imagine he was lying about one then.

If Barry went out to check on the dear and met her at the dumpster, their prayer circle might've been interrupted by the cleaning lady and that's why Barry questioned her. We weren't doin' nuthin'.

The very next day Suzanne said she was done.

If that cleaning lady later encountered, say, Mrs R and mentioned meeting Barry and his wife and then Mrs R related that to Suzanne, Suzanne would know whether she'd been on a walk with Barry.... and if she knew she hadn't, that would be all the evidence she needed. Lied about the deer, lied about the zipper....and now she had proof.

Now it's possible it was Real Suzanne with Barry...

But considering Barry himself said he met his current paramour at the dumpster...

And Suzanne had said the last few days had been magical...

I'm not seeing a walk with Barry 'round the neighborhood dumpster to be any kind of magic, not for Suzanne, who was preparing to walk away from him.

JMO
 
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  • #509
Does anyone know exactly where the dumpster was located? Is it by chance in the direction of where Barry was "looking for the dead week old turkey his daughter shot"? Or when he was pinging down by the river Friday evening also is that near the dumpster?
 
  • #510
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The only significance I see regarding the V day interlude, is that it catches him in another one of his lies. He told Grusing et al the relationship was purely platonic.
Really nothing to hide in my opinion, but it seems there was in BM's opinion. And we see the charade being played out to this day with her not on Barry's arm in court etc.

There is also the connection here of both Sho and her ex financee FB, IIRC, being two separate tipsters on the case, both reporting to LE tip line on separate calls, seeing a strange vehicle in the vicinty on Mothers Day. Coincidence? IMO
 
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  • #511
Wednesday night was the walk...

Barry is lying about being in an intimate relationship now. Not a stretch to imagine he was lying about one then.

If Barry went out to check on the dear and met her at the dumpster, their prayer circle might've been interrupted by the cleaning lady and that's why Barry questioned her. We weren't doin' nuthin'.

The very next day Suzanne said she was done.

If that cleaning lady later encountered Mrs R and mentioned meeting Barry and his wife and then Mrs R related that to Suzanne, Suzanne would know whether she'd been on a walk with Barry.... and if she knew she hadn't, that would be all the evidence she needed. Lied about the deer, lied about the zipper....and now she had proof.

Now it's possible it was Real Suzanne with Barry...

But considering Barry himself said he met his current paramour at the dumpster...

Suzanne had said the last few days had been magical...

I'm not seeing a walk with Barry 'round the neighborhood dumpster to be kind of magic, not for Suzanne, who was preparing to walk away from him.

JMO

Ohhhh interesting about meeting Sho the night before the "I'm done" text. You know who would know? Mrs. R..
 
  • #512
Wednesday night was the walk...

Barry is lying about being in an intimate relationship now. Not a stretch to imagine he was lying about one then.

If Barry went out to check on the dear and met her at the dumpster, their prayer circle might've been interrupted by the cleaning lady and that's why Barry questioned her. We weren't doin' nuthin'.

The very next day Suzanne said she was done.

If that cleaning lady later encountered Mrs R and mentioned meeting Barry and his wife and then Mrs R related that to Suzanne, Suzanne would know whether she'd been on a walk with Barry.... and if she knew she hadn't, that would be all the evidence she needed. Lied about the deer, lied about the zipper....and now she had proof.

Now it's possible it was Real Suzanne with Barry...

But considering Barry himself said he met his current paramour at the dumpster...

And Suzanne had said the last few days had been magical...

I'm not seeing a walk with Barry 'round the neighborhood dumpster to be any kind of magic, not for Suzanne, who was preparing to walk away from him.

JMO
Bingo! The odds feel very good to me !!
 
  • #513
The only significance I see regarding the V day interlude, is that it catches him in another one of his lies. He told Grusing et al the relationship was purely platonic.
Really nothing to hide in my opinion, but it seems there was in BM's opinion. And we see the charade being played out to this day with her not on Barry's arm in court etc.

There is also the connection here of both Sho and her ex financee FB, IIRC, being two separate tipsters on the case, both reporting to LE tip line on separate calls, seeing a strange vehicle in the vicinty on Mothers Day. Coincidence? IMO

Come on don't we all meet our platonic opposite sex friends at hotels on Valentines Day? Nothing to see here in ole Barry's mind.. just hanging out with my friend in a hotel room on Valentines Day. ugh he is something I swear.
 
  • #514
I've wondered all along why they didn't do a grid search at the dump wherever those public receptacles got emptied. I mean I know it's a huge job but we also know they can narrow it down fairly well to what section was dumped that week and you'd think the prospects of what might be found would be worth it. MOO

I did the research many threads ago, it boils down to with the volume of garbage involved even on a grid search it's virtually impossible to locate the evidence. There was a case in CA (I think), LE knew the body went into a trash can,which garbage truck picked it up, and which grid it was dropped in... they never recovered the body. Too much garbage, too many smells.

In a smaller dump it would be doable, but the bigger the municipal area the more garbage. Barry's choice to dump the evidence in Broomfield was probably more calculated than I've ever given him credit for.
 
  • #515
Does anyone know exactly where the dumpster was located? Is it by chance in the direction of where Barry was "looking for the dead week old turkey his daughter shot"? Or when he was pinging down by the river Friday evening also is that near the dumpster?
I believe at the end of the Morphew driveway in the cul de sac /dead end area of the street
 
  • #516
I did the research many threads ago, it boils down to with the volume of garbage involved even on a grid search it's virtually impossible to locate the evidence. There was a case in CA (I think), LE knew the body went into a trash can,which garbage truck picked it up, and which grid it was dropped in... they never recovered the body. Too much garbage, too many smells.

In a smaller dump it would be doable, but the bigger the municipal area the more garbage. Barry's choice to dump the evidence in Broomfield was probably more calculated than I've ever given him credit for.

And this could be exactly why Barry chose to get rid of the evidence in this large city and spread it all out. Less likely to find it all and he knew they wouldn't be up there looking for a few days (if at all) because they were going to look for her first, then need to investigate his alibi and once they saw he was at the hotel, maybe they would find out his phone data and see where he was.. those bins would be long gone dumped and searching the landfill would require lots of work. If they didn't suspect a crime early on, why do all that? So he was banking on the fact this larger city would make it harder. If he dumped things in Salida.. likely way easier to find.
 
  • #517
Does anyone know exactly where the dumpster was located? Is it by chance in the direction of where Barry was "looking for the dead week old turkey his daughter shot"? Or when he was pinging down by the river Friday evening also is that near the dumpster?

I've never seen it in the aerials. It's got to have a road going to it, but most of the dead ends look to be roads to undeveloped lots. There's a wide spot at the top of the Morphew house driveway that might be big enough for a garbage truck to maneuver.
 
  • #518
And this could be exactly why Barry chose to get rid of the evidence in this large city and spread it all out. Less likely to find it all and he knew they wouldn't be up there looking for a few days (if at all) because they were going to look for her first, then need to investigate his alibi and once they saw he was at the hotel, maybe they would find out his phone data and see where he was.. those bins would be long gone dumped and searching the landfill would require lots of work. If they didn't suspect a crime early on, why do all that? So he was banking on the fact this larger city would make it harder. If he dumped things in Salida.. likely way easier to find.

Yep, more of that premeditation.
 
  • #519
Logically, he had to have dumped the charger in Broomfield. He couldn't risk them being found together and the most likely scenario is that he tossed the phone along US 50 when he tossed the helmet. He was trying to sell an abduction at that point.

Bear with me. Barry couldn't decide which story to go with.

She ran off: Had a boyfriend, took her charger, left her purse.
Abducted: Bike thrown down the hill, helmet tossed nearly a mile west.
Mountain Lion: He didn't even bother to stage it.

Her charger was by the bed in the same room where Barry caught up to her. It would have made a handy garrote.

No matter which story you go with, the cord can't be near the phone or Barry is implicated.

I've still got concerns about that helmet. LE said no scratches or dings which is hard to believe if you toss it from a moving vehicle and the telematics didn't show any vehicle activity or did I miss it. If you look at Google Earth there is almost a path from where the bike was to where the helmet was found and it isn't all that far if you are on foot. I think all I'm saying is I'm not wedded to it being tossed from a vehicle. It could easily have just been "put" there. Since the phone has never been found it could be anywhere...
 
  • #520
I've still got concerns about that helmet. LE said no scratches or dings which is hard to believe if you toss it from a moving vehicle and the telematics didn't show any vehicle activity or did I miss it. If you look at Google Earth there is almost a path from where the bike was to where the helmet was found and it isn't all that far if you are on foot. I think all I'm saying is I'm not wedded to it being tossed from a vehicle. It could easily have just been "put" there. Since the phone has never been found it could be anywhere...

That helmet could be tossed and very easily not be scratched up. Helmets are lightweight made of a foam material with a flimsy plastic cover. If it went over into the brush/grass/shrubs on the side of that highway (as it appears to be not on a dirt/gravel/ditch like area right beside the highway but further into some area with vegetation) it wouldn't be scratched up. Helmets are made to withstand being crushed and hit hard on a roadway or by a car. Tossing from a vehicle, even a moving one, into an area with some grass wouldn't leave a mark or very little.
 
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