Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #99

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  • #141
It's all about appearances and always has been. No matter how tone-deaf.
IMO the level of dysfunction in that family if off the charts -but that's all the girl's have ever known. Their Mom always seemed to put on a happy face and prop Dad up - now they are filling her shoes. and mimicing her behavior. IMO It's learned behavior not chosen behavior for them plus it is reinforced I am sure by Dad and Iris.
Suzanne was just beginning to see with clarity. It took her years.
I imagine it will be a long process for the girls to see themselves to the other side, if they choose that path.
 
  • #142
I doubt the veterinarian will be able to testify at all. Without any firsthand involvement with the case, it seems like the only relevant testimony they would be able to offer would be a professional opinion on the effect of the tranquilizer darts.

RSBM

Well yes. But that is all that is needed?

Someone just needs to say, this stuff is used to take down a big animal. Which also no doubt matches the manufacturer's instructions which are public record.

IMO that is all we need this witness for. To tick the box on what this stuff does, and read the dosing info (public record).

The speculation in the AA about impact on a human, isn't necessary to the case.

It's an obvious inference which the prosecution can invite the jurors can draw in opening and closing.
 
  • #143
What I do see in your posts is a tendency to minimize DV, to make excuses for BM's behavior in a vacuum and to not really be comfortable looking at or acknowleding the totality of the prosecution's evidence. JMO
RSBM
You made really good straightforward points here.

After all, this is the “Suzanne Morphew Forum”, not the “Free Barry Morphew Forum.”
 
  • #144
IMO the prosecution did not set this up to fail. I think its a combination of a newly elected DA who wanted a high profile case to make a good impression, lack of experience of said DA and inepitutde of said DA.

What makes you think that the DA is inexperienced and wanted a high-profile case to make a good impression? Ineptitude, really?

What I know for fact is that on Feb 4, 2013, Kelsie Schelling, eight weeks pregnant, was murdered in Pueblo by her boyfriend -- a local, former HS athlete standout, and her body has never been recovered.

For better than 7 years, not for love nor money would the Pueblo DA (LS's boss) charge Donte Lucas for her murder. As the Pueblo prosecutor, LS promised Kelsie's family that she would not leave Pueblo County until Lucas was arrested and charged with her murder.

On March 8, 2021 -- Lucas was convicted of 1st-degree murder in the death of Kelsie, after just a few hours of deliberation. He's spending the rest of his life in prison and will have no opportunity for parole.

Just ask Kelsie's family who made justice for Kelsie possible-- and it certainly wasn't because she wanted fame from a high-profile case or to make a good impression. (LS left Pueblo County for another position shortly after Donte's arrest).

Similar to Morphew, there was no body and no forensic evidence-- just some phone texts, and a lot of lies. And a key witness was murdered the day before she was set to give evidence! MOO

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...st-degree-murder-in-death-of-kelsie-schelling
 
  • #145
Yes my interest is in the trial absolutely. It is each of our state's job to put the right people behind bars if they break the law. I'm not sure what "the bigger picture" is other than that in our country actually. That is the responsibility of the prosecution and yes I've not been happy with the prosecution since the AA was released. And no, I personally cannot get behind the DV accusations and sentence enhancer in this case given what very little we know about the dynamics of Barry or Suzanne's personal life with the fragmented information available. Prosecution can easily suggest motive of the divorce with quite abit of factual information. I'm not totally behind the running around with a tranquilizer gun theory either. I do think he had motive, means and opportunity so the ball is in the prosecution court to prove that with the facts of the case to the satisfaction of an empaneled jury.
The burden of proof in a criminal trial is always on the state. This case is no different. <modsnip> The jurors will be called on to decide the guilt or innocence of Barry based on the totality of evidence.
 
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  • #146
RSBM

Well yes. But that is all that is needed?

Someone just needs to say, this stuff is used to take down a big animal. Which also no doubt matches the manufacturer's instructions which are public record.

IMO that is all we need this witness for. To tick the box on what this stuff does, and read the dosing info (public record).

The speculation in the AA about impact on a human, isn't necessary to the case.

It's an obvious inference which the prosecution can invite the jurors can draw in opening and closing.
I agree and don't think not having an expert vet won't hurt the prosecution's case if they stick with the tranquilizer theory.
 
  • #147
Some of ya'll might be interested to learn who owns property up on Garfield.

Quite the teaser! Please do tell...

Lauren Scharf@LaurenScharfTV

Undersheriff is saying that #BarryMorphew turned around at the Garfield Mine after leaving the home Sunday morning.

10:33 AM · Aug 23, 2021·
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OK, so the Garfield Mine where BM allegedly turned around is about 3.1 miles from PP.

Please, let's not confuse this mining road turn-around with vacant land located at the foot of Monarch Mountain known as Garfield Townsite where there are many lots currently for sale. No relevance here...

According to Redfin, .25 - .50 acre lots average anywhere from $90K-$150K.

And who wouldn't want to build a cabin near their favorite slope where they can walk to the chairlift!

Just ask the millionaires at Vail, Aspen, etc.

(Monarch has long been known as the blue-collar Aspen where you can still get a day lift ticket for about $70 versus $250).

JMO
 
  • #148
Lauren Scharf@LaurenScharfTV

Undersheriff is saying that #BarryMorphew turned around at the Garfield Mine after leaving the home Sunday morning.

10:33 AM · Aug 23, 2021·
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OK, so the Garfield Mine where BM allegedly turned around is about 3.1 miles from PP.

Please, let's not confuse this mining road turn-around with vacant land located at the foot of Monarch Mountain known as Garfield Townsite where there are many lots currently for sale. No relevance here...

According to Redfin, .25 - .50 acre lots average anywhere from $90K-$150K.

And who wouldn't want to build a cabin near their favorite slope where they can walk to the chairlift!

Just ask the millionaires at Vail, Aspen, etc.

(Monarch has long been known as the blue-collar Aspen where you can still get a day lift ticket for about $70 versus $250).

JMO
ok
 
  • #149
You have to think that his attorneys have prompted them to appear this way in public.

I've long been a fan of Court TV and I can't tell you how many times I've heard a defense attorney (talking head) confirm that they do aim to control everything about their client's public perception (in and outside the courtroom)-- right down to 'how many times they blink!'

There's not been one time that BM and his haven't walked arm-in-arm down the sidewalk into the Judicial building. That waltz is not natural or a coincidence! -- I'd call it 100% defense choreographed.

And probably why I refuse to acknowledge it. MOO
 
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How about I put a couple of K9's in the zoo?
A whole pack of big ugly, growling dogs to guard Bary's pen. Surely he's going there.
 
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I agree and don't think not having an expert vet won't hurt the prosecution's case if they stick with the tranquilizer theory.

I don't know if they even need to solidify a specific theory in order to get a conviction. I think all of this evidence is just proof he had multiple ways he could have harmed her, he admitted to using the tranquillizer after lying about it, he had multiple weapons in that house and admitted to using various ones in recent weeks to shoot chipmunks, tranquilize a deer, daughters turkey was shot with something... etc. He puts these weapons in his own hands often after he lied about something related to that prior to the admission. He admits to throwing away tranquillizer material, MG noted he told her he could bury a body and nobody would find it, he lied about many things he did that day, he changed his story to fit facts LE told him over time. I just don't think the prosecution needs to even nail down a set theory because nobody knows except Barry exactly what he did, but the evidence will show he had MANY ways he could have killed her without leaving blood or any sign of the crime. She quit communicating when he arrived home and has never communicated again, then he left the house that morning and said she was alive when he left her there and admitted to being the last person to see her alive. The jury will not need to know specifics, but instead will understand that he had MANY ways he could have done it and the tranquillizer is one of them.
 
  • #154
I don't know if they even need to solidify a specific theory in order to get a conviction. I think all of this evidence is just proof he had multiple ways he could have harmed her, he admitted to using the tranquillizer after lying about it, he had multiple weapons in that house and admitted to using various ones in recent weeks to shoot chipmunks, tranquilize a deer, daughters turkey was shot with something... etc. He puts these weapons in his own hands often after he lied about something related to that prior to the admission. He admits to throwing away tranquillizer material, MG noted he told her he could bury a body and nobody would find it, he lied about many things he did that day, he changed his story to fit facts LE told him over time. I just don't think the prosecution needs to even nail down a set theory because nobody knows except Barry exactly what he did, but the evidence will show he had MANY ways he could have killed her without leaving blood or any sign of the crime. She quit communicating when he arrived home and has never communicated again, then he left the house that morning and said she was alive when he left her there and admitted to being the last person to see her alive. The jury will not need to know specifics, but instead will understand that he had MANY ways he could have done it and the tranquillizer is one of them.
One hundred percent agree. Praying the prosecution can get that across as well as you did.
 
  • #155
Lauren is live:


 
  • #156
New attorney for the prosecution seems to be quite fiery. Lauren said he was very active and engaged, and complimented by the judge (he argued well, even though things didn't always go their way).

Prosecution met with the k-9 handler days before the hearing, and he still didn't mention the report. This thing was like a paragraph long, and there is another report submitted by a deputy that is already in evidence.

The dog didn't find any meaningful scent of Suzanne. The defense was trying to make it seem like the dog was actually on to something, but Spence was firm that there was no scent found and the dog did not commit to anything.

He was becoming frustrated with the defense and how they were characterizing what he was saying.

Barry was chuckling at some point during this.
 
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  • #157
Boy oh boy are the defence “reaching.” Roscoe (the dog) was NOT alerting, he was SEARCHING for a scent and found none. Defence says, “so the dog was alerting,” and Spence says, “I wouldn’t say alerting, he was searching.” (somewhat paraphrased). Seems Spence got a bit annoyed with the inference by the defence. Good!! Suzanne NEVER was there, plain and simple.

ETA: I see @MassGuy beat me to it! :)
 
  • #158
Money can buy a lot of things even when you are a murderer.

Just ask O.J.
New attorney for the prosecution seems to be quite fiery. Lauren said he was very active and engaged, and complimented by the judge (he argued well, even though things didn't always go their way).

Prosecution met with the k-9 handler days before the hearing, and he still didn't mention the report. This thing was like a paragraph long, and there is another report submitted by a deputy that is already in evidence.

The dog didn't find any meaningful scent of Suzanne. The defense was trying to make it seem like the dog was actually on to something, but Spence was firm that there was no scent found and the dog did not commit to anything.

He was becoming frustrated with the defense and how they were characterizing what he was saying.

Barry was chuckling at some point during this.

I can't imagine that the judge missed the chuckling and there will come a point when that won't bode well for Bare, much like the grinning threesome leaving court will negatively affect the public. No one appreciates arrogance and we don't forget it!

This also foreshadows what we can expect from Barry at trial. Yes, we'll see lots of shoulder-patting by the female attorneys but I doubt it will overcome the jury's perception of immature Barry and his equally immature daughters. Bless their hearts; we know the girls' brains haven't fully developed. One would expect more from someone of Barry's age. Not!
 
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  • #159
I must go back now and watch the first part of Lauren’s video as I tuned in a bit late. But, I must say, I am feeling reassured that all is okay in prosecution land, even if not perfect. From Lauren’s video it appears that the new Deputy DA has it together. Whew!
 
  • #160
New attorney for the prosecution seems to be quite fiery. Lauren said he was very active and engaged, and complimented by the judge (he argued well, even though things didn't always go their way).

Prosecution met with the k-9 handler days before the hearing, and he still didn't mention the report. This thing was like a paragraph long, and there is another report submitted by a deputy that is already in evidence.

The dog didn't find any meaningful scent of Suzanne. The defense was trying to make it seem like the dog was actually on to something, but Spence was firm that there was no scent found and the dog did not commit to anything.

He was becoming frustrated with the defense and how they were characterizing what he was saying.

Barry was chuckling at some point during this.
Just watched Lauren also. Maybe new DA will be tough and make some headway.

I hope this is the last time we hear of Barry Morphew chuckling. It makes me sick. You want to smack that smile right off his face. What better way than to hear these words:

“We the jury…find Barry Lee Morphew guilty of premeditated murder…”
 
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