Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #99

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  • #301
Dismissed means prosecution most likely can regroup because I don’t think the judge would dismiss with prejudice with no body. I can’t imagine him looking forward to round two at the financial cost it would be. I would think that the entire team is fast forwarding to how to win the trial and get an acquittal. But maybe he wants a dismissal?
It certainly appears the defence wanted a dismissal. They keep asking for it :).
 
  • #302
It certainly appears the defence wanted a dismissal. They keep asking for it :).
Personally I think they are asking for the extreme sanctions for the prosecutorial misconduct because they can but my gut says they are probably close to being ready for a trial. An acquittal would be the proverbial brass ring for them.
 
  • #303
Personally I think they are asking for the extreme sanctions for the prosecutorial misconduct because they can but my gut says they are probably close to being ready for a trial. An acquittal would be the proverbial brass ring for them.
Time will tell :). One thing they will not have to offer the jury is exculpatory evidence. They have a lot of mountains to move to get an acquittal. I wouldn’t count on the brass ring quite yet if I were them. Barry was a very bad client by not hiring them the minute he realized nobody was believing his malarkey. He was a bad actor too. I’m thankful for both!
 
  • #304
Personally I think they are asking for the extreme sanctions for the prosecutorial misconduct because they can but my gut says they are probably close to being ready for a trial. An acquittal would be the proverbial brass ring for them.
Who cares about brass rings? This trial is about justice for Suzanne. Defense should get prepared for everyone in the courtroom to hear all of the lies he told, one after the other.
 
  • #305
We may never know exactly why, but I think she was sun bathing and messaging with Jeff. We know Barry did odd things that day by going home, but not really going home. He was parked down the driveway (by looking at various photos and google maps it seems that would be a location out of view of the house) and we know he called her when he was on his way to get his bobcat blade changed (even thought he was just at home, but not really at home), then he texted her on his way back home saying Done, headed home and then the "did you leave" text. She didn't respond. I believe he also tried calling her on this drive home. I think something was going on that day in the afternoon. Barry hurried home from his job site to hike or bike with her and then did neither and actually seemed to be home, but not even near the house. This is my opinion only, but I think Suzanne might have felt something that day. We know she was outside messaging with Jeff, we know Barry had a camera that LE never found. Maybe Barry comes home yelling Suzanne, she hears it and doesn't want to encounter him outside in her bathing suit so she slips in the door and it doesn't even have to be she was afraid, but maybe just uneasy and wanted to get inside and put a shirt or something on. He is getting more upset because she didn't answer the phone or the text and he hears her go in and shut the door so he is really mad now.

This is just a scenario I can see happening. We don't know why she didn't answer his calls or text. We don't know if Jeff and her actually got on WA to video after those messages they sent just after 2pm. Maybe they were on WA when Barry arrived home. Jeff said he didn't think they were on WA based on the messages sent before and after, but I do think it's possible they were on a video chat on WA at that time.
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Yes, I know.
Seasoned citizen here.
And this may strike some as 'off-topic', but...

My rule of thumb has for the longest while has been:

A 'ringing phone',
unless you're expecting a 'call' ,
is naught but an invitation to speak.
NB. More often than not, whenever I ignore my rule, it is further validated.

The relevance in the case at hand is, it seems to me, that all parties may be attaching disproportionate significance to "unanswered calls".
The not-unexpected result at trial may well be 'cyclones' - IE hurripains - of twisting, unavailing, point-counter-point speculation...while twelve pairs of eyes are glazing-over...

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]In my view, absent some strong contextual under- pinning[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif], [e.g.,an offer of proof perhaps],[/FONT]
  • an "unanswered" call
  • - assuming an otherwise normally operating system -
  • is either a "not-right-here-right now", or
  • a "go-away-don't-bother-me now", response.
_______________________________[/FONT]

Enough! I must get back to attaching my freshly-waxed cotton string to that almost new, shiny tin can I found...
:p
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  • #306
__________________________________
Yes, I know.
Seasoned citizen here.
And this may strike some as 'off-topic', but...

My rule of thumb has for the longest while has been:

A 'ringing phone',
unless you're expecting a 'call' ,
is naught but an invitation to speak.
NB. More often than not, whenever I ignore my rule, it is further validated.

The relevance in the case at hand is, it seems to me, that all parties may be attaching disproportionate significance to "unanswered calls".
The not-unexpected result at trial may well be 'cyclones' - IE hurripains - of twisting, unavailing, point-counter-point speculation...while twelve pairs of eyes are glazing-over...

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]In my view, absent some strong contextual under- pinning[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif], [e.g.,an offer of proof perhaps],[/FONT]

  • an "unanswered" call
  • - assuming an otherwise normally operating system -
  • is either a "not-right-here-right now", or
  • a "go-away-don't-bother-me now", response.
_______________________________[/FONT]
Enough! I must get back to attaching my freshly-waxed cotton string to that almost new, shiny tin can I found...
:p
_______________________________

I was just having this conversation with someone recently regarding the expectation that having my cell number means you have immediate access to me. The last couple of years it started to bother me (this applies to people I love as well) as I’ve made a point to separate myself from my phone and not feel obligated (and feel good about it) to respond right away. IMO
 
  • #307
I thought that way for a bit too, but now I’m in the other camp. I think it was “up close and personal.” Angry Bare!
^^rsbm

@susiQ -- I agree with you. Also, besides getting up close to SM, I think in BM's mind, he's long convinced himself that "putting SM to sleep" is not murder.

To face their daughters -- especially MM2, I think he has to believe this.

He most likely smothered SM once she was sedated-- he didn't have to look at her face. Coward killer. MOO
 
  • #308
It certainly appears the defence wanted a dismissal. They keep asking for it :).
I think they either want a dismissal or they want the trial to happen as soon as possible.

A dismissal would be hugely embarrassing for the DA and there's always a chance they would decide not to retry the case. On the other hand, it would give them much more time to get their case in order.

But one thing the defense hasn't asked for is more time. They could easily have asked for the trial to be pushed back as a result of the prosecution's discovery violations. However, they seem to think that the limited time favors them. IMO, they believe the prosecution is overwhelmed and will have a difficult time getting their case together by trial time. Hopefully they are wrong.
 
  • #309
I think they either want a dismissal or they want the trial to happen as soon as possible.

A dismissal would be hugely embarrassing for the DA and there's always a chance they would decide not to retry the case. On the other hand, it would give them much more time to get their case in order.

But one thing the defense hasn't asked for is more time. They could easily have asked for the trial to be pushed back as a result of the prosecution's discovery violations. However, they seem to think that the limited time favors them. IMO, they believe the prosecution is overwhelmed and will have a difficult time getting their case together by trial time. Hopefully they are wrong.
I appreciate your thoughts. Personally, MOO, if it were dismissed, I think the DA would retry the case. They’ve invested a lot of time and energy. Barry deserves LWOP for what he did. Had he admitted what he did and humbled himself, I would not have been upset if he got out before he expires. Not by much though :).

I agree the defence is likely ready to go ahead at the end of the month. Thumping their fists on the table against what is presented is all they have. They have no believable alternative to what happened to SM. Like I said earlier, they have a mountain of circumstantial evidence to overcome and that’s only the stuff we know about. I hope the prosecution can pull it together. I am a little more optimistic with the new Deputy DA handling the case.
 
  • #310
I was just having this conversation with someone recently regarding the expectation that having my cell number means you have immediate access to me. The last couple of years it started to bother me (this applies to people I love as well) as I’ve made a point to separate myself from my phone and not feel obligated (and feel good about it) to respond right away. IMO

I can't tell you how much I agree with you @K9Enzo!

I work in a professional field and I recall when email first entered the workplace and clients would send you a message, and minutes later phone to inquire if you received their email -- while expecting a thorough response as quick as the ping or "you've got mail!"

Seriously, not long after I felt compelled to come up with a script for our engagement agreements explaining to the client how answers to their questions over the years have never existed at the top of our heads, and how the new email service hadn't caused the information they were requesting to magically pop up at the top of my head! I digressed, sorry. ;)

Relative to BM's multiple unanswered calls to SM within minutes (I think there were 11), I've wondered if these calls were not more alibi building for BM?

For example, we know that BM had cellular service in Salida or Poncha Springs to make these calls to SM but she did not have cellular service signal at PP.

Seems to me that unless BM expected SM to be away from home, the best he could do was leave her a voicemail (that she would not receive immediately).

Did BM initially think to disappear SM on Saturday? Did she actually disappear on Saturday?

Was "Did you leave?" the rough draft version of SM going on a hike [bike ride] -- "we were going to meet but she wasn't where we agreed to meet and I can't find her."

IMO, if BM expected SM to be home, it doens't follow that he wouldn't contact her by iMessage or text (immediate service via the home Wifi).

I recall Andy M providing how SM didn't have cell service at home so he'd call BM's phone (knowing he'd be working in cell range) to leave messages for SM.

(Also, I don't recall any evidence that they used wifi-calling at home).

MOO
 
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  • #311
^^rsbm

@susiQ -- I agree with you. Also, besides getting up close to SM, I think in BM's mind, he's long convinced himself that "putting SM to sleep" is not murder.

To face their daughters -- especially MM2, I think he has to believe this.

He most likely smothered SM once she was sedated-- he didn't have to look at her face. Coward killer. MOO
Yes, I agree! I think he has completely sanitized what he did to Suzanne in his seriously twisted head and feels absolutely no guilt. :confused: Like others here, I’d like to wipe that smirk off his leathered face and give him a taste of reality!
 
  • #312
^^rsbm

@susiQ -- I agree with you. Also, besides getting up close to SM, I think in BM's mind, he's long convinced himself that "putting SM to sleep" is not murder.

To face their daughters -- especially MM2, I think he has to believe this.

He most likely smothered SM once she was sedated-- he didn't have to look at her face. Coward killer. MOO

I highly agree! There is not a doubt in my mind that Barry used a medicated-filled dart in order to sedate Suzanne. Barry's good at hunting and tracking prey. The data I've seen online regarding its usage, states it could take a little as ten minutes to take full effect but it depends on the victim's size and the dosage used. And, Suzanne was a lithe lady.

Barry's dart medications were out of date bc he didn't ask a Colorado vet to prescribe them for his dirty deeds. They were likely left over from IN hunting days so I'm eager to learn how he obtained them. Those sharp agents were in IN for specific reasons that had nothing to do with eating hot dogs. Although, I hear the Moorman's business serves the best hot dogs around.

Barry was well-practiced at dosing mammals. He KNEW how much it would require for his sinful purpose. Can we imagine if the medication, at full effectiveness, left Suzanne paralytic so she was rendered conscious and aware yet could not move her lips or limbs? Thankfully, she managed to claw his arm in an effort to leave her last raging mark on him before she became too limp to resist.

When first reading your thoughtful post, I was reminded of this sweet text:

On [Wednesday] May 6, 2020, at 8:44AM

Suzanne sent MM2 a text, “Good morning! I miss you already!

3 short days later, Suzanne would be dead and could no longer send or receive sweet texts.

http://www.[link removed]/events/suzanne-sent-macy-a-text-good-morning-i-miss-you-already/
.
 
  • #313
I highly agree! There is not a doubt in my mind that Barry used a medicated-filled dart in order to sedate Suzanne. Barry's good at hunting and tracking prey. The data I've seen online regarding its usage, states it could take a little as ten minutes to take full effect but it depends on the victim's size and the dosage used. And, Suzanne was a lithe lady.

Barry's dart medications were out of date bc he didn't ask a Colorado vet to prescribe them for his dirty deeds. They were likely left over from IN hunting days so I'm eager to learn how he obtained them. Those sharp agents were in IN for specific reasons that had nothing to do with eating hot dogs. Although, I hear the Moorman's business serves the best hot dogs around.

Barry was well-practiced at dosing mammals. He KNEW how much it would require for his sinful purpose. Can we imagine if the medication, at full effectiveness, left Suzanne paralytic so she was rendered conscious and aware yet could not move her lips or limbs? Thankfully, she managed to claw his arm in an effort to leave her last raging mark on him before she became too limp to resist.

When first reading your thoughtful post, I was reminded of this sweet text:

On [Wednesday] May 6, 2020, at 8:44AM

Suzanne sent MM2 a text, “Good morning! I miss you already!

3 short days later, Suzanne would be dead and could no longer send or receive sweet texts.

http://www./events/suzanne-sent-macy-a-text-good-morning-i-miss-you-already/
.

In addition, there was no place on Suzanne's lithe body like the dense musculature of a deer rump. A dart would IMO hit BONE ... and I have to imagine, without the meaty flank of a deer, the effect on a human being would be far more debilitating. Rapid and devastating.

We know what Barry did to his childhood pet raccoon when it no longer served him.

He was done with Suzanne.

JMO
 
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  • #314
I highly agree! There is not a doubt in my mind that Barry used a medicated-filled dart in order to sedate Suzanne. Barry's good at hunting and tracking prey. The data I've seen online regarding its usage, states it could take a little as ten minutes to take full effect but it depends on the victim's size and the dosage used. And, Suzanne was a lithe lady.

Barry's dart medications were out of date bc he didn't ask a Colorado vet to prescribe them for his dirty deeds. They were likely left over from IN hunting days so I'm eager to learn how he obtained them. Those sharp agents were in IN for specific reasons that had nothing to do with eating hot dogs. Although, I hear the Moorman's business serves the best hot dogs around.

Barry was well-practiced at dosing mammals. He KNEW how much it would require for his sinful purpose. Can we imagine if the medication, at full effectiveness, left Suzanne paralytic so she was rendered conscious and aware yet could not move her lips or limbs? Thankfully, she managed to claw his arm in an effort to leave her last raging mark on him before she became too limp to resist.

When first reading your thoughtful post, I was reminded of this sweet text:

On [Wednesday] May 6, 2020, at 8:44AM

Suzanne sent MM2 a text, “Good morning! I miss you already!

3 short days later, Suzanne would be dead and could no longer send or receive sweet texts.

http://www./events/suzanne-sent-macy-a-text-good-morning-i-miss-you-already/
.
I forgot that sweet text. Suzanne was obviously close to MM2. I take it that MM1 was the daddy’s girl. But I don’t know that. Either way, it sickens me that he killed their mother.
 
  • #315
In addition, there was no place on Suzanne's lithe body like the dense musculature of a deer rump. A dart would IMO hit BONE ... and I have to imagine, without the meaty flank of a deer, the effect on a human being would be far more debilitating and rapid.

We know what Barry did to his childhood pet raccoon when it no longer served him.

He was done with Suzanne.

JMO
I’m one who has no problem believing he tranquilized her. Does it matter how?

For those who think the prosecution has it all wrong, just where did they get their ideas? From Barry himself. Lies all the time. Then admits to all the trash dumps in Broomfield and even dumping tranq material. I mean, why couldn’t he just put it in his kitchen trash if it was so innocent? And then in a large bag to the neighborhood dumpster. Because he had to hide it.

It’s easy to follow that Barry had the means, motive and opportunity. I don’t even see why the prosecution has to provide a possible way of death. He likely tranquilized her then strangled her. Since there’s no body, he could have beat her to death. So many possibilities but only one suspect.
 
  • #316
I think Bare’s jovial entry and relaxed manner in the courtroom stems from his belief that this case will get dismissed, even at the last hour! He’s paying the “best of the best” and he deserves something for his $$. I wonder how jovial he’ll be when the trial begins and he realizes he’s about to be exposed for what he really is for all the world to see. A murderer and a pathological liar. Appearances are everything to him, don’t ya know. Regardless of whether or not the state brings home a conviction, he’ll never be able to walk that back. MOO

That's why, imo, we'll not see Mr. Morphew in the dock. Ever.
 
  • #317
I think Bare’s jovial entry and relaxed manner in the courtroom stems from his belief that this case will get dismissed, even at the last hour! He’s paying the “best of the best” and he deserves something for his $$. I wonder how jovial he’ll be when the trial begins and he realizes he’s about to be exposed for what he really is for all the world to see. A murderer and a pathological liar. Appearances are everything to him, don’t ya know. Regardless of whether or not the state brings home a conviction, he’ll never be able to walk that back. MOO

Maybe Bare and Drew Peterson can collaborate on a book about the fun of being on trial for murder! "Fun With Drew & Barry"!

I remember Drew clowning for reporters, don't you? He has now switched prisons due to threats on his life. They'd best be gettin' her done (the book) before one of them gets dead.
 
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__________________________________
Yes, I know...
Seasoned citizen here.
And this may strike some as 'off-topic', but...

My rule of thumb has for the longest while has been:

A 'ringing phone',
unless you're expecting a 'call' ,
is naught but an invitation to speak.

NB. More often than not, whenever I ignore my rule, it is further validated.

The relevance in the case at hand is, it seems to me, that all parties may be attaching disproportionate significance to "unanswered calls".
The not-unexpected result at trial may well be 'cyclones' - IE hurripains - of twisting, unavailing, point-counter-point speculation...while twelve pairs of eyes are glazing-over...

In my view, absent some strong contextual under- pinning, [e.g.,an offer of proof perhaps], an "unanswered" call - assuming an otherwise normally operating system -
  • is either a "not-right-here-right now", or
  • a "go-away-don't-bother-me now", response.

Enough! I must get back to attaching my freshly-waxed cotton string to that almost new, shiny tin can I found...
:p
_______________________________
 
  • #319
That's why, imo, we'll not see Mr. Morphew in the dock. Ever.
So you think he will change his plea? I hadn’t given that much thought. He’s so arrogant I don’t see him ever admitting what he did. I recall thinking that Patrick Frazee would spare himself the humiliation of sitting through a trial, but he didn’t and that was a “slam dunk.” I’ll be really surprised if Barry changes his plea to avoid the exposure. I can imagine him shifting in his seat alot though :)
 
  • #320
Maybe Bare and Drew Peterson can collaborate on a book about the fun of being on trial for murder! "Fun With Drew & Barry"!

I remember Drew clowning for reporters, don't you? He has now switched prisons due to threats on his life. They'd best be gettin' her done (the book) before one of them gets dead.
I didn’t follow that case closely. I do hope Drew and Barry get acquainted soon though. Sounds like they deserve each other!
 
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