Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #99

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  • #321
So you think he will change his plea? I hadn’t given that much thought. He’s so arrogant I don’t see him ever admitting what he did. I recall thinking that Patrick Frazee would spare himself the humiliation of sitting through a trial, but he didn’t and that was a “slam dunk.” I’ll be really surprised if Barry changes his plea to avoid the exposure. I can imagine him shifting in his seat alot though :)

Good night(?), susiQ!

No, I don't think he'll deal Murder1 down, unless the agreed-upon sentence w/regard to ALL charges limits confinement to ...wait...
wait for it...

NO CONFINEMENT
... ahem.
Well, that ain't gonna' happen. <Barry parlance, sorry>
No, Barry will not appear in the dock - certainly so for sentencing - because he himself might appear to be 'disappeared' at that propitious moment.

I don't want to bore you - or any of our fellowship - by regurgitating my earlier postings in prior threads as to how such might happen, but I shall try to get a few back refs for you @susiQ ...but mañana?


- or... you could use "SEARCH BDAJAG" on site to get some flavor for my being-out-there-ness.

Ahh
Bonne Soirée, Susi
.

o_O zzzzzz
 
  • #322
So you think he will change his plea? I hadn’t given that much thought. He’s so arrogant I don’t see him ever admitting what he did. I recall thinking that Patrick Frazee would spare himself the humiliation of sitting through a trial, but he didn’t and that was a “slam dunk.” I’ll be really surprised if Barry changes his plea to avoid the exposure. I can imagine him shifting in his seat alot though :)
bbm
Now and then someone near Barry should whisper "m-i-n-e-s-h-a-f-t". :p
 
  • #323
I can't tell you how much I agree with you @K9Enzo!

I work in a professional field and I recall when email first entered the workplace and clients would send you a message, and minutes later phone to inquire if you received their email -- while expecting a thorough response as quick as the ping or "you've got mail!"

Seriously, not long after I felt compelled to come up with a script for our engagement agreements explaining to the client how answers to their questions over the years have never existed at the top of our heads, and how the new email service hadn't caused the information they were requesting to magically pop up at the top of my head! I digressed, sorry. ;)

Relative to BM's multiple unanswered calls to SM within minutes (I think there were 11), I've wondered if these calls were not more alibi building for BM?

For example, we know that BM had cellular service in Salida or Poncha Springs to make these calls to SM but she did not have cellular service signal at PP.

Seems to me that unless BM expected SM to be away from home, the best he could do was leave her a voicemail (that she would not receive immediately).

Did BM initially think to disappear SM on Saturday? Did she actually disappear on Saturday?

Was "Did you leave?" the rough draft version of SM going on a hike [bike ride] -- "we were going to meet but she wasn't where we agreed to meet and I can't find her."

IMO, if BM expected SM to be home, it doens't follow that he wouldn't contact her by iMessage or text (immediate service via the home Wifi).

I recall Andy M providing how SM didn't have cell service at home so he'd call BM's phone (knowing he'd be working in cell range) to leave messages for SM.

(Also, I don't recall any evidence that they used wifi-calling at home).

MOO
But but but - when Suzanne talked with JL, she had service on her phone?
 
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Good night(?), susiQ!

No, I don't think he'll deal Murder1 down, unless the agreed-upon sentence w/regard to ALL charges limits confinement to ...wait...
wait for it...

NO CONFINEMENT
... ahem.
Well, that ain't gonna' happen. <Barry parlance, sorry>
No, Barry will not appear in the dock - certainly so for sentencing - because he himself might appear to be 'disappeared' at that propitious moment.

I don't want to bore you - or any of our fellowship - by regurgitating my earlier postings in prior threads as to how such might happen, but I shall try to get a few back refs for you @susiQ ...but mañana?


- or... you could use "SEARCH BDAJAG" on site to get some flavor for my being-out-there-ness.

Ahh
Bonne Soirée, Susi
.

o_O zzzzzz
Thank you! I’ll reach into the past and take a look. Sorry I fell asleep last night :). I frequently admit, there are many threads and posts I have missed in the last year on this case. I’m guessing you feel he might do a Fotis? Hmmm…..I think he felt real powerful taking Suzanne’s life, but when it comes to taking his own, the coward in him wins out. Then again, I didn’t expect it with Fotis either.
 
  • #326
Often defence teams try to delay trial as the accused gets better value from every day free at this end of the sentence in the case of large tariffs

However in this case, the body turning up is a big risk for the defence ;)
 
  • #327
Thank you! I’ll reach into the past and take a look. Sorry I fell asleep last night :). I frequently admit, there are many threads and posts I have missed in the last year on this case. I’m guessing you feel he might do a Fotis? Hmmm…..I think he felt real powerful taking Suzanne’s life, but when it comes to taking his own, the coward in him wins out. Then again, I didn’t expect it with Fotis either.
IMO, FD knew he would never be a free man again. BM still thinks he has a chance.
 
  • #328
Don’t tempt me.

Good afternoon and day after All Fools' Day!

The problem I can't shake wrt these old mine shafts is that, unlike wells for example, they don't open straight down...generally. And, if initially they did, they would have presented a pit trap when abandoned were not a mass of debris thrown into them, no?

And not presenting vertical and 'clear', or nearly so...

barrythink
['affected'... for authenticity?]
"Uhh...so what happens if I chuck her down one of them and she "hangs up" ?
Do I gotta' go down an' fix my screw up?
an' get all covered with whatever that dead stuff is that dogs can really smell good?
or maybe get trapped myself, Holy S - - - !
an' when I clammer out after working on my problem, what about all that dead smell I'l be spreadin' alover?
Yeah. wadda'bou tha'?
It'l be not jus' there at the mine, but evywhar-all-over on my way back home?? Holy doots a'gin!
Nah...I gotta' come up w' sumpin' better'n that mine idee..
I GOT IT !
Hotdamm!
Now ah'l jus' do this otha'thin 'nsted !
__________________________________

And here we rest: Unable to come up with that otha' thin ourselves...:(
 
  • #329
IMO, FD knew he would never be a free man again. BM still thinks he has a chance.
Yes, he does! It will be interesting to see if his demeanour shifts as the trial progresses. I can’t imagine it’s going to be easy for someone with an ego as big as his to hear all his lies exposed.

I just can’t see him doing “a Fotis.” He’s in love with himself and he’s a coward. After going back and reading some posts, I think he may “do a runner.” He won’t succeed though. There are cameras and eyes everywhere. He should know that by now, but……Oh Barry! :).
 
  • #330
I think this is unique though because Barry does own and use tranquillizer darts for deer. Most people probably don't own these or use them, heck before this case I didn't even know a person could own and use tranquillizers for things. Maybe Barry had this tranquillizer in his garage on the work bench ready in case deer strolled through and in his fit of rage did grab it being something close and handy and ready to go?

The way the phone bounced around, I have thought he may have ran around back and she went in through that door and locked it, he ran back around the house and through the garage to get into the house and grabbed it on the way. He gets to her door and busts it in. I don't know if she would have had time to call for help.

I think that is a very valid point. A person uses what they know and what they are most familiar with. Spouse's who are doctors have been known to poison their spouse because they have access to drugs/meds, and the knowledge about them, that the average person doesn't have.

I have always thought that the reason he used the tranquilliser was because he didn't want to have a messy crime scene at the house. It wasn't used as a way to 'kill' someone. It was used as a way to disable them, without leaving traces of their death behind for the forensics team or the cadaver dogs to discover. JMO
 
  • #331
I’m one who has no problem believing he tranquilized her. Does it matter how?

For those who think the prosecution has it all wrong, just where did they get their ideas? From Barry himself. Lies all the time. Then admits to all the trash dumps in Broomfield and even dumping tranq material. I mean, why couldn’t he just put it in his kitchen trash if it was so innocent? And then in a large bag to the neighborhood dumpster. Because he had to hide it.

It’s easy to follow that Barry had the means, motive and opportunity. I don’t even see why the prosecution has to provide a possible way of death. He likely tranquilized her then strangled her. Since there’s no body, he could have beat her to death. So many possibilities but only one suspect.
I don't have a problem with it either. He isn't a complex person. He told us himself all men need is sex. Well I think that should be all Barry needs is sex, but he has such a basic view of life. Suzanne should be how she's always been and things will be just fine.

So what does Barry do regularly? He hunts, he runs a landscape business, he admits to tranquilizing deer for their horns. That seems much nicer than tranquilizing them to kill them. Hummm wouldn't put it past him to use that tranquillizer to give himself an advantage at killing them also. If this is what he does, then maybe he can't think outside the box so he uses his tried and true method of killing on Suzanne. He knows it's less messy to have a person knocked out first, then he can kill her somewhere else and not make a mess, no cadaver scent at the house, no signs of a murder, no signs of a struggle.. he even told MG he could disappear someone and they'd never be found, likely because of what he knows with his landscaping job. So I do think he just used what he knew to take care of it.. then he didn't have to google how to kill someone because he already has tricks up his sleeve.
 
  • #332
BM's Truck & Trailer, Packed w Antlers. (Old Topic)
This article* describes searching for shed antlers in Colorado, NM & other western states. I can see how it appeals to Barry. {ETA, not so much as hunting moving, breathing wildlife, but being outdoors may be good enough as a second choice.}

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image source = story at link below.

"... they’re essentially money on the ground. A fresh, brown antler from a bull elk, for example, can fetch as much as $18 a pound...."
"... Walker, a respected antler broker... 'I’ve had sets of elk sheds I’ve paid 3,500 bucks, 4,500 bucks for.' ”

"Antlers are used ... as dog treats, decorations, chandeliers and lamps."
"But shed hunters with experience — or a lot of luck — can make thousands of dollars.
"Salazar said he earned $17,000 from sheds he collected during the pandemic.
"

*Shed hunting in New Mexico: Turning antlers into cash.
Santa Fe New Mexican, April 3, 2022.
 
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  • #333
Often defence teams try to delay trial as the accused gets better value from every day free at this end of the sentence in the case of large tariffs

However in this case, the body turning up is a big risk for the defence ;)

I agree that this is the precise reason the defense wants no delays.
 
  • #334
Why should SM have run to escape her husband? There has to be a threat first. But in which form did this threat happen??
If he had the tranquilliser dart in some kind of shooting device, that would be enough to make her run, IMO.
 
  • #335
I expect a dramatic action from the defense at the 11th hour.

JMO
 
  • #336
I feel the whole idea of BM injecting SM with some incapacitating drug makes no sense and if the prosecution pursues that theory they will be making a big mistake. If BM felt the need to incapacitate SM with some drug prior to killing her, (and that is a very big if) I feel administration of the drug via a drink or food would be more likely. I don't think its possible that anyone could inject another person with a needle without that persons cooperation, or unless they are tied down and already incapacitated. What would any adult do if suddenly someone tried to inject them with a needle? Fight, jerk away, move, the needle might be even broken off in the skin, a fight would ensue, with things broken, signs of a struggle, etc. The whole idea of BM needing to inject SM with a drug that would likely take 10-15 minutes to work via an intramuscular injection in order to knock her out so he could then kill her via strangulation or drowning in the bathtub just doesn't make any logical sense. MOO.
I think it does make some sense.

If he drowned her or strangled her at home, the cadaver dogs would pick up the scent of death later on. AND he would have to transport a dead body in a vehicle---which is another way that killers get caught by forensics.

But if he disables her first---he can prevent forensics experts from gathering that kind of evidence. He can knock her out, and then take all the time he needs to straighten up the scene, get rid of any evidence, and then dispose of her somewhere remote and hidden.

If he shot her with a dart, in the back, while she was running away, it would not be that easy for her to take the needle out. And even if it took 10 or 15 for her to totally knock her out---so what? She wasn't going to get away at that point. She may have run up to her room to try and escape but he just had to break in and WAIT for her to pass out.
 
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If he had the tranquilliser dart in some kind of shooting device, that would be enough to make her run, IMO.
Sure because she knew him and his habits. Not his secrets, but his habits. I am quite sure he bragged endlessly to her about how he could tranquilize big animals for their antlers. If she saw him with anything like that in his hands, I am sure she ran.
 
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I think it does make some sense.

If he drowned her or strangled her at home, the cadaver dogs would pick up the scent of death later on. AND he would have to transport a dead body in a vehicle---which is another way that killers get caught by forensics.

But if he disables her first---he can prevent forensics experts from gathering that kind of evidence. He can knock her out, and then take all the time he needs to straighten up the scene, get rid of any evidence, and then dispose of her somewhere remote and hidden.

If he shot her with a dart, in the back, while she was running away, it would not be that easy for her to take the needle out. And even if it took 10 or 15 for her to totally knock her out---so what? She wasn't going to get away at that point. She may have run up to her room to try and escape but he just had to break in and WAIT for her to pass out.

I agree but i thought the master bedroom was on the first floor of their home. Isn't that where the door frame was broken?
 
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