I finally found the original report. The reporter at the end of this clip says that he spoke to Barry, and that Barry replied that it was "simply too soon at this time."Who was the person who asked Barry to talk to the media a few days after SM disappeared and he said “It’s too soon”? Anyone remember?
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Not likely!
Unlike BM's criminal case, I'd think it a first for any plaintiff, including BM, to fund a CIVIL lawsuit out of pocket.
IMO, one thing BM hasn't failed at is finding the best of the best in legal practice-- including Fisher & Byrialsen, P.L.L.C, a Denver and New York law firm that filed a notice of claim on his behalf.
Barry Morphew plans to sue DA, investigators for malicious prosecution
RSBM wouldn’t there be litigators who would take this on contingency or just to get into the books for precedent setting law suit?
edit. Never mind. Looking at later posts, Seems like a point of disagreement for now whether or not it will cost BM money to bring the civil laws suit.
I think we’ve explained this before. If he killed her then and there, it’s possible the body would evacuate which may leave traceable evidence. He could have approached her in an unthreatening manner and then just “stuck” her with the dart and sent her running without her phone to call 911. Even if she had her phone, have you ever tried running for your life and getting out a phone call?
There are certainly a number of ways this could have played out and I for one wouldn’t rule out the dart and tranquilizer. JMO
I finally found the original report. The reporter at the end of this clip says that he spoke to Barry, and that Barry replied that it was "simply too soon at this time."
I'm assuming that was paraphrased, as Barry does not speak like that.
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If Barry did use a tranquilizer gun, then I think it's a safe bet that he broke it down and disposed of it in Broomfield.I've been doing some googling of tranquillizers and what materials are in them. There is a lot of information out there and we don't know exactly what Barry might have used since he admitted to throwing the materials out. He could have acquired any number of drugs and some are more deadly than others. I was reading that someone would be sedated in 3 to 5 minutes and sometimes 2-4 minutes depending on several factors. She was a tiny woman and he was used to sedating something larger than her. If he didn't intend to kill her, maybe he used to much and she died. If he did intend to kill her maybe he just wanted her sedated and she died due to too much medicine for her size. The reading I've done suggests it being not so exact and that many factors are in play for how quick it words. how much you need to use, and what drugs you need to counter it.
I also read that tranq darts can be fired from an air rifle.
Thanks so much!I finally found the original report. The reporter at the end of this clip says that he spoke to Barry, and that Barry replied that it was "simply too soon at this time."
I'm assuming that was paraphrased, as Barry does not speak like that.
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I've been doing some googling of tranquillizers and what materials are in them. There is a lot of information out there and we don't know exactly what Barry might have used since he admitted to throwing the materials out. He could have acquired any number of drugs and some are more deadly than others. I was reading that someone would be sedated in 3 to 5 minutes and sometimes 2-4 minutes depending on several factors. She was a tiny woman and he was used to sedating something larger than her. If he didn't intend to kill her, maybe he used to much and she died. If he did intend to kill her maybe he just wanted her sedated and she died due to too much medicine for her size. The reading I've done suggests it being not so exact and that many factors are in play for how quick it words. how much you need to use, and what drugs you need to counter it.
I also read that tranq darts can be fired from an air rifle.
Of course this is totally inconsistent with what he told investigators on May 28 (page 23).View attachment 339146
From pg 121/131 of the AA -- Agent Grusing told BM that they did not find any BAM (i.e., a brand name for a deer tranquilizer inside the house). Barry expanded here about BAM, Telazol, and Xylazine, and offered he last used rx tranquilizer in April 2020 (SM vanished Many 2020).
BAM Deer Tranquilizer
I’m curious as to whether Judge Lama owns or is familiar with animals; domestic or otherwise. Given the 7 acres of property Suzanne and Barry owned this makes zero sense to me unless he legitimately has zero knowledge and familiarity. My husband and adult son were called to task tonight to hunt a coyote who had killed the boss’s calf and one of many I’m sure. They had no luck but how can anyone say with absolute certainty that a tranquilizer within a garage or other outside building and even within a house cannot harm wildlife or a human? I assisted a lady over the weekend who had a missing cat who was thankfully discovered in a neighboring shed or enclosure and found safe and well. It makes zero sense.My understanding was that Judge Lama denied the Vet as an expert witness because there was no tranquilizer Rx located inside the house, and without this, he found the theory that BM used a tranquillzer to incapacitate SM too speculative.
So does that mean that the ingredients in BAM (deer dart sedative) also can't be introduced?
I'm beginning to think the only reason that Judge Lama allowed the Rx needle sheath was because he views it as the equivalent of a BIC pen cap found inside the dryer (which it might as well be without the data explaining the Rx contents)!
I'm desperate to read Judge Lama's actual words in his Orders granting these defense motions.
We have two, at two different banks in our town. And we aren't what I would call old.In an era of digital and inexpensive fire boxes and fire safes are safety deposit boxes still a thing? My 90 year old parents have one, but I don't even think my bank has them anymore.
I have one in an adjacent county that I’ve paid 50 bucks a year for and have visited maybe twice in nearly 25 years. Ridiculous but if I were a woman in fear it might be a valuable asset. Otherwise a waste of money. We have safes fireproof and otherwise but if you needed to hide or secure something confidential a safe deposit box might be the way to go ImoIn an era of digital and inexpensive fire boxes and fire safes are safety deposit boxes still a thing? My 90 year old parents have one, but I don't even think my bank has them anymore.
It's a good idea to have one of those if you're married to Barry. Then again, it's a good idea not to be married to Barry in the first place...I have one in an adjacent county that I’ve paid 50 bucks a year for and have visited maybe twice in nearly 25 years. Ridiculous but if I were a woman in fear it might be a valuable asset. Otherwise a waste of money. We have safes fireproof and otherwise but if you needed to hide or secure something confidential a safe deposit box might be the way to go Imo
I remember a similar report but it wasn't exactly like this one by Fox 13.
I recall a reporter was speaking to nephew TN via audio-only and made the offer to TN (to relay to BM) that the reporter would be happy to give BM the floor to reach out LIVE to SM-- whatever he needed.
After a few seconds of silence, and what seemed to me to be on behalf of a listening BM, TN replied that it was too soon for BM to make any public appeal. MOO
RSBMBarry was asked about the tranquilizer darts in his house. He stated that the darts' purpose was to tranquilize bucks to sell them. He said the bucks could then be placed in a trailer that has cubicles.
Probably back in Indiana. He'd have no reason to own one in Colorado, and we definitely haven't heard about one ever being present there.RSBM
Where is that trailer?
Yes - this is what I recall Judge Murphy referencing about how BM put the tranquilizer back in his own hands only days before his wife disappeared (Apri 2020)-- after he first stated he'd not used any tranquilizers since Indiana!Of course this is totally inconsistent with what he told investigators on May 28 (page 23).
Barry was asked about the tranquilizer darts in his house. He stated that the darts' purpose was to tranquilize bucks to sell them. He said the bucks could then be placed in a trailer that has cubicles.
The tranquilizer is a sedative/narcotic and he only did this "tranqing" and selling of bucks back in Indiana. Barry said he has not used the tranquilizer or darts in Colorado.
Liar.
Yes, that's the assumed situation. But if all the deer farming equipment was left in Indiana, then it's not really a compelling explanation for why he had the tranq materials in Colorado...Probably back in Indiana. He'd have no reason to own one in Colorado, and we definitely haven't heard about one ever being present there.
Thanks. I couldn’t remember if it was a member of LE that asked or who. If it was LE that asked, I would think this statement, if brought up at trial, could be very damning towards Barry, not that there aren’t enough other outrageous comments he made.I finally found the original report. The reporter at the end of this clip says that he spoke to Barry, and that Barry replied that it was "simply too soon at this time."
I'm assuming that was paraphrased, as Barry does not speak like that.
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I’m curious as to whether Judge Lama owns or is familiar with animals; domestic or otherwise. Given the 7 acres of property Suzanne and Barry owned this makes zero sense to me unless he legitimately has zero knowledge and familiarity. My husband and adult son were called to task tonight to hunt a coyote who had killed the boss’s calf and one of many I’m sure. They had no luck but how can anyone say with absolute certainty that a tranquilizer within a garage or other outside building and even within a house cannot harm wildlife or a human? I assisted a lady over the weekend who had a missing cat who was thankfully discovered in a neighboring shed or enclosure and found safe and well. It makes zero sense.
Threats of animals whether within or outside a homestead require different means depending on the threat. If one were to encounter a wild boar, bear, gator, coyote or whatever why limit the spaces within one would seek necessary precautions? I clearly don’t understand and welcome any input. People are often required to defend themselves with whatever is available and in whatever situation and landscape deemed necessary. IMO