Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #99

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  • #701
Prosecutors might as well dismiss charges now and refile. The judge is already set to free Barry himself if he could. :mad:

Totally agree. Very disappointed but that seems to be the best way forward to Justice for Suzanne.
 
  • #702
The prosecution has screwed up this case. There is no reason to miss discovery deadlines. It is their own fault. Sorry, I’m mad.
You can be mad. And they may have screwed the case. But this isn’t a game. I’ve said it over and over. Barry Morphew committed murder and should be in prison. The judge, the defense, the prosecution need to stop playing games.
Oh Suzanne!
 
  • #703
IMO the Defense, with the help of Judge L’s rulings to exclude almost all expert witness testimony, has essentially just about gutted the Prosecution’s case. Personally I hope the Prosecution files an appeal to the higher court and wins on appeal to allow the experts’ testimony the prosecution is relying heavily on. The alternative, as much as I don’t like it, would be for prosecution to dismiss the charges, regroup, reorganize, and refile the charges once they are more confident than they are as of now since the Judge’s recent rulings, that they can secure a conviction at trial.

Prosecution losing majority of expert testimony is obviously a huge blow to their case. If they don’t file an appeal and/or dismiss the charges and eventually refile and instead go forward to trial as everything stands now without experts being able to testify as experts in their field, imo there’s higher potential for trial to result in BM being acquitted never able to be tried again aka, a huge travesty of justice.

As is said around these parts often, the prosecution only gets one bite of the apple and since their case has recently been crippled by this Judge’s rulings and especially considering it’s a no body homicide case, imo they need to be/feel a he!! of a lot more confident than they do as of now in securing a conviction at trial. If they do decide to appeal and win appeal, IANAL, but I hope a new Judge can be seated to preside over trial since Justice for the victim, SUZANNE, seems to be lost on this Judge which imo, is a d*mn crying shame.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #704
You can be mad. And they may have screwed the case. But this isn’t a game. I’ve said it over and over. Barry Morphew committed murder and should be in prison. The judge, the defense, the prosecution need to stop playing games.
Oh Suzanne!
This case was always ultimately going to be based at trial on proveable facts. The disorganization and multiple missed dates is solely on the prosecution who represent the state and indirectly the victim. Two differently judges have cautioned the prosecution multiple times from the very beginning. It is unfortunate but not totally unexpected. I cannot believe prosecution missed the second deadline after being given an extension on their expert witnesses. Truly sad and inexcusable and now they have a judge upset with them. Not the way to go to trial. The judge and the defense are “not playing games” that is a deflection opinion that doesn’t represent the facts in my opinion.
 
  • #705
IMO the Defense, with the help of Judge L’s rulings to exclude almost all expert witness testimony, has essentially just about gutted the Prosecution’s case. Personally I hope the Prosecution files an appeal to the higher court and wins on appeal to allow the experts’ testimony the prosecution is relying heavily on. The alternative, as much as I don’t like it, would be for prosecution to dismiss the charges, regroup, reorganize, and refile the charges once they are more confident than they are as of now since the Judge’s recent rulings, that they can secure a conviction at trial.

Prosecution losing majority of expert testimony is obviously a huge blow to their case. If they don’t file an appeal and/or dismiss the charges and eventually refile and instead go forward to trial as everything stands now without experts being able to testify as experts in their field, imo there’s higher potential for trial to result in BM being acquitted never able to be tried again aka, a huge travesty of justice.

As is said around these parts often, the prosecution only gets one bite of the apple and since their case has recently been crippled by this Judge’s rulings and especially considering it’s a no body homicide case, imo they need to be/feel a he!! of a lot more confident than they do as of now in securing a conviction at trial. If they do decide to appeal and win appeal, IANAL, but I hope a new Judge can be seated to preside over trial since Justice for the victim, SUZANNE, seems to be lost on this Judge which imo, is a d*mn crying shame.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne


Not to mention the judge does not seem to recognize DV as a problem.
 
  • #706
^^sbm

From the Gazette:

Lama struck the witnesses in part because the prosecution produced some of their biographical information a day late.

In what universe does submitting the bio of a witness one day late justify sanctions to remove a witness? This is clearly not the type of Discovery violation that injures a defense!

Judge rebukes prosecutors in Barry Morphew case; trial still set to begin this month
I think saying they were just one day late is a very... kind way of putting it.

They missed two deadlines. They seem to have to have completely ignored the first, then when the defense filed a motion to have their experts excluded because they'd missed the deadline, they went to the hearing and asked for an extension. The judge granted the extension, but told them he would "not entertain any further extensions to the People’s expert disclosure deadlines.” Despite that warning, they then missed the extended deadline.
 
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  • #707
This case was always ultimately going to be based at trial on proveable facts. The disorganization and multiple missed dates is solely on the prosecution who represent the state and indirectly the victim. Two differently judges have cautioned the prosecution multiple times from the very beginning. It is unfortunate but not totally unexpected. I cannot believe prosecution missed the second deadline after being given an extension on their expert witnesses. Truly sad and inexcusable and now they have a judge upset with them. Not the way to go to trial. The judge and the defense are “not playing games” that is a deflection opinion that doesn’t represent the facts in my opinion.

Op has stated many times that she cares about trials in general and isn’t emotional about it. That in itself is a game. (Who has the best cards and will play them the right way.).

This is absolutely a game and most lawyers will admit it. The defense doesn’t give a d—- about Barry Morphew. Nor about Suzanne Morphew. Judge L has ruled in favor of defense motions most of the time. He doesn’t even recognize DV when it is in his face.

Whether prosecution is bumbling this case on purpose or because they are incredibly stupid begs the question: why? Why forfeit the “game”?

It appears they all want a murderer to walk the streets. And sadly this is happening across America.
 
  • #708
I don't.

It's that kind of voluntary blindness that builds guys like BM.

It isn’t voluntary.
I guarantee that the majority of people know and like, or even admire someone who they think is a great person but they are truly an abusive, manipulative narcissist. The ones who aren’t fooled are people who have survived being a target of a narcissist.
 
  • #709
Not to mention the judge does not seem to recognize DV as a problem.
They could not prove that and personally I would prefer to “remember” Suzanne as the sweet person her family represented. I was never interested in a court fight to protect the sentence enhancer and often said there probably better cases for advocates to point to. There were too many hints in the documents to say things are not always what they seem for both of them.
 
  • #710
Op has stated many times that she cares about trials in general and isn’t emotional about it. That in itself is a game. (Who has the best cards and will play them the right way.).

This is absolutely a game and most lawyers will admit it. The defense doesn’t give a d—- about Barry Morphew. Nor about Suzanne Morphew. Judge L has ruled in favor of defense motions most of the time. He doesn’t even recognize DV when it is in his face.

Whether prosecution is bumbling this case on purpose or because they are incredibly stupid begs the question: why? Why forfeit the “game”?

It appears they all want a murderer to walk the streets. And sadly this is happening across America.
I actually don’t disagree entirely with what you are saying and yes historically lawyers have tallied wins or losses. And yes the trial is where crimes get proved or not. And in the situation of abject failure on one side or another the juries are more often right than wrong. This case was never ever going to be won or lost in the court of public opinion. I have my own thoughts on guilt or not but it simply doesn’t matter and won’t do anything but make me popular or unpopular in the court of internet public opinion which is not something I place great personal importance on.
 
  • #711
They could not prove that and personally I would prefer to “remember” Suzanne as the sweet person her family represented. I was never interested in a court fight to protect the sentence enhancer and often said there probably better cases for advocates to point to. There were too many hints in the documents to say things are not always what they seem for both of them.

The victim is not in trial here, and equating the victim and killer in that way (implying both abusers), is absolutely insane.

Barry was abusive, that is not in dispute. Although there is little evidence that the abuse was physical (he did admit to striking her once), it's the psychological abuse that is most damning.

He threatened to kill himself if she left, which is an abusive form of control. It also happens to precede murder in a large number of cases.

So the DV isn't merely important as an enhancer, as it also sets the stage for what came next.

It's important.
 
  • #712
The victim is not in trial here, and equating the victim and killer in that way (implying both abusers), is absolutely insane.

Barry was abusive, that is not in dispute. Although there is little evidence that the abuse was physical (he did admit to striking her once), it's the psychological abuse that is most damning.

He threatened to kill himself if she left, which is an abusive form of control. It also happens to precede murder in a large number of cases.

So the DV isn't merely important as an enhancer, as it also sets the stage for what came next.

It's important.
YES!!!
 
  • #713
Laws in Colorado need to change so that DV is a crime in and of itself.

This case shows how adding it as an enhancement to another crime fails victims.

In other states, BM would be in jail based on that awaiting his murder trial. Not able to walk around smugly continuing that DV after killing the victim.

JMO
 
  • #714
Given the gravity of the Court granting the defense sanctions for various Discovery violations, to the extent that the prosecution has lost all but a couple of their expert witnesses for trial, I think it's important to recognize that relative to disclosure of the witnesses and their biographies, the defense has in-fact had the names of all the potential expert and nonexpert witnesses going back to October 2021, as evidenced by the Endorsed Witness List exceeding 30 pages.

I don't think there's any denying that E & N had long scoured this list way before they motioned for sanctions after receiving a witness biography a day late.

IMO, the penalty imposed does not fit the crime.
Not only does the penalty imposed far exceed the offense, the judge himself says he did not yet have access to the court transcript, so had to rely on his notes (which amazingly perfectly match the inaccuracies reflected in the defense's motion while perfectly contradicting the report of an independent journalist who attended the hearing).

So, the court cannot manage to produce transcripts on a reasonable schedule, but imposes severe penalties on the prosecution for missing the deadline by A DAY. WHO imposes the penalty on the court for relying on erroneous records of what occurred in the hearing? AND he says that this order will stand as a baseline for future decisions.

So, what are the reasonable inferences about how this judge is going to rule when the defense objects time and time again, as we know they will to testimony of the witnesses? The witnesses' testimony will come out in drips and drabs without coherence and with much disallowance of this or that. And in the end, the judge may summarize in complete contradiction to what the witness said, as he did with Spence.

I think it was you who was recommending the prosecution take this to a higher court for a ruling that this judge has effectively dismissed this case - through the words he has repeatedly used in reference to the prosecution and their case and through the use of defense assertions rather than witness testimony (i.e. EVIDENCE) to support his orders.

And the State can begin anew with the record on file that this judge repeatedly put his thumb on the scale in favor of the defense to permit a wife/mother murderer to go free. Investigators can continue to search for SM's discarded remains when circumstances permit and if, God help the side of goodness, they are successful in locating her remains and any evidence accompanying them, this judge can wallow in the pile of manure he has created.

CBI can fire Cahill rather than "move him to marijuana" (how does it make ANY sense to transfer rather than fire an agent who has lied to his superiors about the unpermitted equipment he installed on his service weapon after an accidental discharge which caused him injury, undermined a deliberate murder case such as he as done here - not to mention any other case he worked on, and effectively walked away to pursue other opportunities in the middle of an investigation and expected the world to stand around and wait until he bothered to return?...how does a transfer make him any more reliable or respectful of the pursuit of justice?...). The defense attorneys can buy whatever they buy from their profitable practice of representing well-heeled wife-murderers and look forward to future purchases when BM is arrested once again.
 
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  • #715
The victim is not in trial here, and equating the victim and killer in that way (implying both abusers), is absolutely insane.

Barry was abusive, that is not in dispute. Although there is little evidence that the abuse was physical (he did admit to striking her once), it's the psychological abuse that is most damning.

He threatened to kill himself if she left, which is an abusive form of control. It also happens to precede murder in a large number of cases.

So the DV isn't merely important as an enhancer, as it also sets the stage for what came next.

It's important.
You honestly think that if prosecution would have introduced the theory that Barry was abusive the defense would not have pushed back with some of the info in the AA and more? Yes, I am happy that is not happening. Both families loved Suzanne and I absolutely think enough is enough for what was to be a sentence enhancer. Advocate to change Colorado law. Pick a different case. All good but I stand by this is not the right case to pick a political fight over.
 
  • #716
If the prosecution requested a dismissal of the trial in the hope of retrying it, would they be legally obligated to reimburse Barry for his legal expenses?
 
  • #717
If the prosecution requested a dismissal of the trial in the hope of retrying it, would they be legally obligated to reimburse Barry for his legal expenses?
If so, I suggest the funds be put into a trust for the "missing person" as IE characterizes the victim.

ETA: With a "true" guardian.
 
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  • #718
Not only does the penalty imposed far exceed the offense, the judge himself says he did not yet have access to the court transcript, so had to rely on his notes (which amazingly perfectly match the inaccuracies reflected in the defense's motion while perfectly contradicting the report of an independent journalist who attended the hearing).

So, the court cannot manage to produce transcripts on a reasonable schedule, but imposes severe penalties on the prosecution for missing the deadline by A DAY. WHO imposes the penalty on the court for relying on erroneous records of what occurred in the hearing? AND he says that this order will stand as a baseline for future decisions.

So, what are the reasonable inferences about how this judge is going to rule when the defense objects time and time again, as we know they will to testimony of the witnesses? The witnesses' testimony will come out in drips and drabs without coherence and with much disallowance of this or that. And in the end, the judge may summarize in complete contradiction to what the witness said, as he did with Spence.

I think it was you who was recommending the prosecution take this to a higher court for a ruling that this judge has effectively dismissed this case - through the words he has repeatedly used in reference to the prosecution and their case and through the use of defense assertions rather than witness testimony (i.e. EVIDENCE) to support his orders.

And the State can begin anew with the record on file that this judge repeatedly put his thumb on the scale of the defense to permit a wife/mother murderer to go free. Investigators can continue to search for SM's discarded remains when circumstances permit and if, God help the side of goodness, they are successful in locating her remains and any evidence accompanying them, this judge can wallow in the pile of manure he has created.

CBI can fire Cahill rather than "move him to marijuana" (how does it make ANY sense to transfer rather than fire an agent who has lied to his superiors about the unpermitted equipment he installed on his service weapon after an accidental discharge which caused him injury, undermined a deliberate murder case such as he as done here - not to mention any other case he worked on, and effectively walked away to pursue other opportunities in the middle of an investigation and expected the world to stand around and wait until he bothered to return?...how does a transfer make him any more reliable or respectful of the pursuit of justice?...). The defense attorneys can buy whatever they buy from their profitable practice of representing well-heeled wife-murderers and look forward to future purchases when BM is arrested once again.
I agree with some of your points. At any point in time prosecution could have asked to dismiss the charges with the right to refile. My beef is with the prosecution not both judges who both cautioned and postponed motions requesting sanctions for months on end in hopes prosecution would pull it together.
 
  • #719
You honestly think that if prosecution would have introduced the theory that Barry was abusive the defense would not have pushed back with some of the info in the AA and more? Yes, I am happy that is not happening. Both families loved Suzanne and I absolutely think enough is enough for what was to be a sentence enhancer. Advocate to change Colorado law. Pick a different case. All good but I stand by this is not the right case to pick a political fight over.
And that's fine, as it helps the prosecution. It shows the marriage was not a happy one, as Barry initially tried to sell (before he was caught in his own web of lies).

Barry even said Suzanne had changed, describing her as "ballsy." She used everything at her disposal in order to get him to realize that divorce was an option, to include antagonizing him.

This isn't about happy memories, or remembering a victim a certain way. This is about the truth.

The sentence enhancer is standard, as we saw in the Frazee case. The abuse isn't about merely proving that aspect; it's about showing that this was an intimate partner homicide, that had all of the elements that those cases usually have.

Unhappy marriage.

Pattern of controlling behavior and psychological abuse.

A victim trying to escape.

Her killer not having it.
 
  • #720
I agree with some of your points. At any point in time prosecution could have asked to dismiss the charges with the right to refile. My beef is with the prosecution not both judges who both cautioned and postponed motions requesting sanctions for months on end in hopes prosecution would pull it together.
And what of the judge who relied upon erroneous notes for his order rather than the court transcript which STILL does not exist? Transcripts (dependent upon one or few people) can languish in the COVID era, but there is no leniency for gathering and passing on discovery - dependent upon multiple persons in multiple places who have multiple other things they are doing at the same time - in that same era?
 
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