Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #99

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  • #941
Random thoughts today -

I feel the Prosecution would like to go back to it's regularly scheduled program and be done with this case. They are not in it to win it. Now when they do "anything" it seems excitable such as a response from a defense motion or judge ruling. IMO

I've often wondered (and maybe this did happen) how BM would have responded to a very skilled female FBI or CBI agent conducting the interviews, taking the lead with him.
 
  • #942
He’s not innocent by any stretch of the imagination. But we know this because of all the information we have. If the judge doubles down, the jury won’t hear most of what we know. The case will be gutted and the state will look incompetent. BM gave a story. There’s a reason the defense wants it to be played in its entirety and I’m not at all sure that with their skill (however low handed it is), we won’t be left with our mouths gaping yet again at the way the case goes and the way it’s accepted in court. Now it’s BM’s words coupled with his team’s muddying vs 14/16 experts who cannot refute it. I’m not sure what else to call it besides cunning with a large side dish of money.
I don't think BARE is smart or cunning, if he was, he wouldn't have given 30+ hours of interviews to begin with.

I do think he has a couple of high-priced mouthpieces, who have nothing in his defense except to tear apart the State's case piece by piece. It's what they're good at, but it doesn't make BARE innocent.

#Justice4Suzanne
 
  • #943
Random thoughts today -

I feel the Prosecution would like to go back to it's regularly scheduled program and be done with this case. They are not in it to win it. Now when they do "anything" it seems excitable such as a response from a defense motion or judge ruling. IMO

I've often wondered (and maybe this did happen) how BM would have responded to a very skilled female FBI or CBI agent conducting the interviews, taking the lead with him.
Marriage proposal followed by a wedding & honeymoon on the beach at Cabo. After all, women must submit to a man's authority.

Oh, she's already married, you say? I rest my case.

LOL & MOOOOOOOOO
 
  • #944
Marriage proposal followed by a wedding & honeymoon on the beach at Cabo. After all, women must submit to a man's authority.

Oh, she's already married, you say? I rest my case.

LOL & MOOOOOOOOO

I give female agents way more credit than this. IMO
 
  • #945
After 30-40 hours of questioning and interviews, I expect a seasoned FBI homicide investigator to structure questioning to leave no doubt of guilt. Grusing is the only person with direct communication with Barry. I understand building rapport, getting Barry to contradict his story, acting friendly. Do that for 29 hours. In the final interview, there needs to be confrontation, and extreme pressure to either lawyer up or confess. He did his job for 7 innings, but failed to close out the game.
Grusing: after interviewing you for 30 hours Barry we have many inconsistencies in your story. Suzanne was not sleeping at 5 a.m. on Mother's Day morning in your bed. Your truck telematics and phone data say you were not sleeping Saturday night. The job in Broomfield was not scheduled and we have video evidence that you were not on the job. We also have evidence that your marriage words ending in divorce, and all of Suzanne phone data stopped on Saturday when you arrived home. We are preparing to arrest you for first-degree murder oh, and now is the time for you to tell us what happened
Maybe Grusing did. We haven't seen the interviews or read the transcripts of them.

I like a direct, confrontational approach myself. But how does it benefit the end game? Grusing seemed to think BM's body language was as clear as his words. It would be interesting to see that.

I empathize with your viewpoint but why not beat up on the hapless Cahill? Now there's a man with a lot of responsibility (one of the 1st to interview our chipmunk killer), who was and is a potential hindrance to the prosecution's case.

JMO
 
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  • #947
MO looks like its down to BMs story and contradictory pings and geolocation.
BM's story includes the period from 2:47pm on 5/9 until 4:30am 5/10. During this time, by his own admission, he was with Suzanne...and all of her communications with the outside world were dark, and thereafter. Fact: BM is the last documented person to see SM alive, and no person at any time or place saw SM riding a bike on 5/10. jmo though. This period of time is the timeframe for both the murder and the cover-up...and both Barry and Suzanne were together through it all.
 
  • #948
BM doing the data dump on his phone is so incredibly damning. OMG, what a numpty.

I wonder how many of those 381 text messages were with Suzanne. And who were the others with, that BM didn't want anyone to see?

I wonder what some of those saved locations were. I wonder if there have been any searches related to the saved locations.

How can the defense spin that data dump?

I don't think the defense has any plan of playing those forty hours of BM's Lies, Obfuscations, and Tall Tales Involving Various Animals. BM lies, then lies when confronted with his lies, then lies some more. There's no positive in showing that to the jury. BM wasn't entrapped, or coerced or threatened. He was there, lying like a rug, of his own free will.

E & N: Could create bother in an empty room.

They're working their strategy. They have no valid defense, so they are working to get everything they can thrown out. The less the jury hears about the mountain of circumstantial evidence, the more likely BM walks. They have many large hurdles to overcome.

Just staring with when Suzanne's phone went dark, right before BM shows up at Puma Path.

I'm very disappointed in the Judge's ruling and I hope the prosecution is successful in changing that decision. It seems remarkably harsh.
Two judges now have had public criticism of the prosecution.


What legal team doesn't get their act together after the judge gives a first admonishment about the discovery deadline?
DA narrowly avoided a first sanction by Judge Murphy who warned the DA, and gave second chance to produce acceptable discovery, saying as yet there was no pattern by the DA of witholding discovery.

But a missing a second deadline for the same issue, and them missing the extension is just not ok.
MOO now I believe the case will ultimately be lost due to this, and it has little to with specific judges or the skills of E&N.

MOO my only hope is in BMs lies.

I love some investigator's adage I heard:
"Lies are a form of admission."
 
  • #949
Barry Morphew can murder his wife, fake an alibi on the wrong day, lie about happy marriage, lie about vehicle data, lie about phone data, lie about steak and sex, lie about bike staging, lie about bike helmet. Weren't some of the "interviews" at Barry's house where he cooked BBQ for the agent(s). I finish and remodel basements, and if you give me 30 hours to question Barry Morphew I would provide a better line of questioning and at the very least have a moment of confrontation on facts.
 
  • #950
Barry Morphew can murder his wife, fake an alibi on the wrong day, lie about happy marriage, lie about vehicle data, lie about phone data, lie about steak and sex, lie about bike staging, lie about bike helmet. Weren't some of the "interviews" at Barry's house where he cooked BBQ for the agent(s). I finish and remodel basements, and if you give me 30 hours to question Barry Morphew I would provide a better line of questioning and at the very least have a moment of confrontation on facts.
Grusing is a seasoned professional with many years of experience. I don't doubt his knowledge in questioning a suspect one bit. After all, BARE was almost in tears at "Johnny's betrayal" and at one point offered to explain his entire story for immunity.
 
  • #951
He’s not innocent by any stretch of the imagination. But we know this because of all the information we have. If the judge doubles down, the jury won’t hear most of what we know. The case will be gutted and the state will look incompetent. BM gave a story. There’s a reason the defense wants it to be played in its entirety and I’m not at all sure that with their skill (however low handed it is), we won’t be left with our mouths gaping yet again at the way the case goes and the way it’s accepted in court. Now it’s BM’s words coupled with his team’s muddying vs 14/16 experts who cannot refute it. I’m not sure what else to call it besides cunning with a large side dish of money.
I understand what you're saying, but we don't know exactly what will/will not be admitted yet. IIRC, these witnesses will still be able to testify just not as an 'expert' right?
 
  • #952
Grusing is a seasoned professional with many years of experience. I don't doubt his knowledge in questioning a suspect one bit. After all, BARE was almost in tears at "Johnny's betrayal" and at one point offered to explain his entire story for immunity.
Yeah. Sounds like they were buddies.
 
  • #953
Grusing is a seasoned professional with many years of experience. I don't doubt his knowledge in questioning a suspect one bit. After all, BARE was almost in tears at "Johnny's betrayal" and at one point offered to explain his entire story for immunity.
Did Barry explain his story for immunity? Was Barry confronted on his lies? I haven't read or heard any line of tough questioning about murder?
 
  • #954
Maybe Grusing did. We haven't seen the interviews or read the transcripts of them.

I like a direct, confrontational approach myself. But how does it benefit the end game? Grusing seemed to think BM's body language was as clear as his words. It would be interesting to see that.

I empathize with your viewpoint but why not beat up on the hapless Cahill? Now there's a man with a lot of responsibility (one of the 1st to interview our chipmunk killer), who was and is a potential hindrance to the prosecution's case.

JMO
I don't fault the investigation. There are always judgment calls we may disagree with, interview styles we may like or not like, and even mistakes and missteps. But the investigation produced overwhelming evidence of BM's guilt.

I think Judge L has made serious errors in judgment in this case and that his reasoning, to the extent I can know it, is flawed.

But these human elements, common challenges to any prosecutor, are not the reason the case against BM is so damaged that the current, recently appointed lead prosecutor (how many have we had - 3 now?) believes the case has been crippled beyond saving.

We are at this point because Linda Stanley filed this case before doing what any competent trial lawyer would do - what she had an ethical responsibility to do - recognize that before filing this very complex evidentiary case, she needed to do what Cahill has suggested and make sure all the evidence needed - including expert reports - was organized and prepared before the case was filed, so that discovery issues were minimized and that all the essential evidence would be admitted in evidence. Also, that she had the right team in place from the beginning to prosecute this case effectively

If she had made sure that was done, the prosecution of this case would not have been so chaotic and Judge L would not have had a basis for his crippling order excluding testimony.

Why didn't she perform her professional responsibility? The decision makers said there was no perceived urgency, the investigation had produced abundant evidence, yet the prosecution could not get its act together after the case was filed, despite having multiple chances.

How much has this investigation and prosecution cost the taxpayers of the 11th JD, the State of Colorado, and the United States? All for naught, according to the prosecution's Hail Mary motion.

Unfortunately, the only accountability left in this case may be for the voters in the next election, who should be righteously outraged at this outcome but who may or may not understand who has let them down.
 
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  • #956
Yeah. Sounds like they were buddies.

Nah, Grusing's approach (IMO) was a tactic, it was intentional. Breaking bread, as the saying goes, is a useful investigation tool. It seems so basic but it can be disarming, appear casual and can get the conversation going. I once saw a Detective ask a suspect before they go to his office how about a "quick bite to eat, on me". The guy did seem to relax. I have no idea whatever happened in that case but it was interesting to see. IMO
 
  • #957
There are definite restrictions when your witness is not labeled was an 'expert.' It weakens their testimony when they are not granted the expertise necessary to be seen as the most credible and the most knowledgable opinion on the subject at hand.

So if I am a cell phone 'expert' witness, you will accept and believe my highly educated opinion because the court is verifying my credentials. But if I am not an 'expert' cell phone witness, then I could be seen by the jurors as an employee of ATT or something, and not a highly experienced data analyst with years of trial experience.
It's more impactful than even that. A lay witness can't offer opinions that are based on specialized technical/scientific knowledge. So the prosecution's DNA and telematics witnesses won't really be allowed to interpret what they found. The defense can just object to any question that asks them to offer such an opinion.

I think they can probably work around this in the case of the telematics expert, since it's just a matter of saying things like "at this time, the truck recorded a door opening" and the inferences from that are common sense. But I think it will be a big problem when it comes to the DNA. The prosecution needs someone knowledgeable and authoritative to explain why things like the partial DNA in the range rover aren't important and why a partial match to an unsolved SA case doesn't mean much. And if they're sticking with the dart theory, they'll really need the DNA expert to explain why Barry's DNA isn't on the sheath but other DNA is, etc. It's hard for me to think how someone testifying as a lay witness will be able to do that effectively.
 
  • #958
Of course, I’m no expert in interviews or interrogations, but I believe Grusing used an effective strategy in his questioning.

Barry has a weak ego and a need to control and be in charge, if Grusing had been accusatory, aggressive and taken a hardline approach with Barry, then Barry would’ve stopped talking. Grusing wanted Barry to feel that he had the upper hand in their exchanges.
 
  • #959
All we need for the farce to be complete is for Suzanne to be found the day after the trial, complete with the accused's tranq gun
Please, if found, then before trial or during it! Disturbing for defense would be during trial probably. What a show we would have with E&N and BM and BM's supporters.
 
  • #960
Nah, Grusing's approach (IMO) was a tactic, it was intentional. Breaking bread, as the saying goes, is a useful investigation tool. It seems so basic but it can be disarming, appear casual and can get the conversation going. I once saw a Detective ask a suspect before they go to his office how about a "quick bite to eat, on me". The guy did seem to relax. I have no idea whatever happened in that case but it was interesting to see. IMO

Yes. I am sure Fed LE has a big budget for this type of investigating as well. MOO is they were also fishing for info regarding other BM crimes. MOO
 
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