Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #102

[rainbowshummingbird]

You mean his mom and sisters? How many supporters does he really have? A handful? And why is his life more important than hers?

If she had killed him I would want Justice for him as well.

IMO Barry has quite a few supporters in other places too.

I cannot further explain the reasons why people would value Barry’s life over Suzanne’s without running afoul of moderation.

 

[mom2chloe]

He should be. One way or another, his day is coming. But I have no frame of reference about his looks. All I’ve seen are pictures that really tell a lie about his “perfect family” and to watch a video of him now as a free man, well I just don’t want to.

I finally watched the GMA clip today. He has aged and looks concerned. Maybe scared indeed. Not making any excuses for the girls but they are likely scared after losing mom. They are not yet self sufficient adults and maybe scared to lose dad too after all he is still their financial provider as far as we know and the only parent they have left. Give them and us time. Answers may be found soon. I remain confident justice for Suzanne is coming!

 

[Kemug]

Iirc correctly JP and MG said the towels on the floor were wet and reeked also. Also if the pool was closed and not open to the public but there was water in it , and they were still treating it - the smell would have been present in all the rooms above the pool not just in the orig room BM rented. Imo

Of course Barry may just have been bleaching his hair. As one does.

 

[mrjitty]

Phone and truck telematics are damning. How is that logically explained to family- who knows your routine ? The fake big job where he does 5 trash runs and the holes up in a hotel room for most of the day- just happens to be the day his wife is determined missing- what an amazing coincidence! The activity around the staged bike and helmet. Family members would know if is it normal to follow elk at 3:40 in the morning.The proclamation of a perfect marriage, steak on one plate and sex May 9th. One would think that family members would know if this was a likely scenario.

I think several things happen in these cases - based on experience with Pistorius etc

There are true believers (family etc) for whom motivated reasoning shuts out everything else. Where evidence points to guilt, then a conspiracy is behind it. Law Enforcement is out to get Barr because reasons. The defence team shut down a corrupt prosecutor. None of this makes sense of course. Why would a corrupt prosecutor railroading Barry not do the job properly?

Then there are also contrarians. Each thing can be speculated away. Maybe BM's phone signal was just jumping around, maybe he likes to make lots of trash runs etc etc

Or they just never even confront the actual evidence. (very possible due to low standards of reporting).

02c

 

[FromGermany1]

Of course Barry may just have been bleaching his hair. As one does.

 

[FromGermany1]

IMO a lot of Barry’s supporters know that Barry killed Suzanne, but they choose to support him because they think his life is more important and more valuable than her’s.

Did he feed them many dramatic stories about his wife, always being himself her savior of course and never directly critisizing Suzanne but showing his endless efforts to end her "pain", she had since childhood (as he would tell)?

 

[Love Never Fails]

I think several things happen in these cases - based on experience with Pistorius etc

There are true believers (family etc) for whom motivated reasoning shuts out everything else. Where evidence points to guilt, then a conspiracy is behind it. Law Enforcement is out to get Barr because reasons. The defence team shut down a corrupt prosecutor. None of this makes sense of course. Why would a corrupt prosecutor railroading Barry not do the job properly?

Then there are also contrarians. Each thing can be speculated away. Maybe BM's phone signal was just jumping around, maybe he likes to make lots of trash runs etc etc

Or they just never even confront the actual evidence. (very possible due to low standards of reporting).

02c

Very good reply. And true of families who can’t face what their loved one has done. Thank you.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Did he feed them many dramatic stories about his wife, always being himself her savior of course and never directly critisizing Suzanne but showing his endless efforts to end her "pain", she had since childhood (as he would tell)?

Ugh….

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I think several things happen in these cases - based on experience with Pistorius etc

There are true believers (family etc) for whom motivated reasoning shuts out everything else. Where evidence points to guilt, then a conspiracy is behind it. Law Enforcement is out to get Barr because reasons. The defence team shut down a corrupt prosecutor. None of this makes sense of course. Why would a corrupt prosecutor railroading Barry not do the job properly?

Then there are also contrarians. Each thing can be speculated away. Maybe BM's phone signal was just jumping around, maybe he likes to make lots of trash runs etc etc

Or they just never even confront the actual evidence. (very possible due to low standards of reporting).

02c

I really like this post Mr J. Especially the part about the contrarians who try to speculate everything away. Have to give them points for trying, but it’s a nahhhh from me, to most arguments.

I have to wonder about Barry’s supporters - what on earth do they THINK happened to Suzanne, if he didn’t kill her?! That boggles my mind.

In the interest of staying on topic, as a comparison case of sorts because you’ve mentioned it - if there’s any particular reading source about Pistorious case you can recommend I would be interested.

 

[CGray123]

You mean his mom and sisters? How many supporters does he really have? A handful? And why is his life more important than hers?

If she had killed him I would want Justice for him as well.

I have seen no evidence of significant support for BM in social media, outside his family. I don't patrol the dark web, but if I did I think I might find support for BM among men who call themselves "incels" which is an abbreviation for "involuntarily celibate."

From Wikipedia: "An incel... is a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people." BBM.

 

[susiQ]

I really like this post Mr J. Especially the part about the contrarians who try to speculate everything away. Have to give them points for trying, but it’s a nahhhh from me, to most arguments.

I have to wonder about Barry’s supporters - what on earth do they THINK happened to Suzanne, if he didn’t kill her?! That boggles my mind.

In the interest of staying on topic, as a comparison case of sorts because you’ve mentioned it - if there’s any particular reading source about Pistorious case you can recommend I would be interested.

RBBM
^^THIS^^ is a very good question. I’d love to know what BM’s mother, sisters, Trevor and the girls think. My guess is abduction. Didn’t he tell reporters outside the courthouse that ”the killer is still out there?” Yes indeed, the killer is STILL OUT THERE because YOU are the killer!!

He acknowledges that she is DEAD, so likely that is the salad he’s been spinning with the family. Abducted and killed. IE and BM need to get on the same page. It wouldn’t look or taste good if they were spinning two different salads in the same bowl MOO

 

[Scootie98]

Wow, that strong?! That isn't coming from the swimming pool, that was definitely from something Barry was doing in that room.

one would think that chlorine inside that room would be traceable. The question about the source of the odor being either in the room or from the pool beneath is an important one. Any chance the authorities examined that room with more detail than simply questioning BM's workers and the hotel staff?

 

[Love Never Fails]

From Wikipedia: "An incel... is a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people." BBM.
Incel huh? Didn’t know there was a term like that. From walking through a mall, I wouldn’t think there was anyone who couldn’t get a date…if they just stoop low enough. JMO of course.
BM=incel.
Yep

 

[Love Never Fails]

RBBM
^^THIS^^ is a very good question. I’d love to know what BM’s mother, sisters, Trevor and the girls think. My guess is abduction. Didn’t he tell reporters outside the courthouse that ”the killer is still out there?” Yes indeed, the killer is STILL OUT THERE because YOU are the killer!!

He acknowledges that she is DEAD, so likely that is the salad he’s been spinning with the family. Abducted and killed. IE and BM need to get on the same page. It wouldn’t look or taste good if they were spinning two different salads in the same bowl MOO

Oh I think he convinced them all that she ran away with a lover and will contact them in time and let them know she is fine. I wonder what the daughters really believe?

 

[Megnut]

I fear there's a segment that feels Barry is going to heroic measures to keep his remaining family together, in the face of tumult.

Further, I think they think that if Suzanne had simply remembered her place, laid off the drugs (prescribed medications, People!) and the booze (hard core IPAs) and the men (JL, miscellaneous rogue offenders with dropped charges who were never near her or her vehicle), repented of her ballsy ways and resumed her lovingness and loyalty to Barry, while questioning nothing and being grateful to receive an allowance out of their joint monies and her inheritance (which she was strong-armed into comingling), stay out of the garage and adulate Barry without pause, none of this would've happened. Pure, unadulterated victim-blaming.

It's almost like they think that Suzanne got herself in the water. So her fault if she drowned.

But...

Maybe Suzanne was done with dying inside and wanted her life, her self back.

You know, the right to vote for herself, to have a vote in how the rest of her life would go.

Somebody stole that from her.

Me, I'm all done with "poor Barry.'

He's proven himself capable of deception, misdirection, abuse. His actions confirm Suzanne's experience.

There's no poor Barry.

I have wondered, if she'd gotten his charge reduced to Murder 2, if Iris was angling to present Barry as a soft, godly, hapless hen-pecked husband...

And next how Suzanne got herself in the mineshaft...

That's just not right.

Suzanne deserves better.

She deserves the truth.

The world needed Suzanne. To hear her story of resilience, as a woman and as a mother, as a survivor of cancer and DV.

I hope that one day her voice is resurrected --

If you ignore the words but listen to the GMA voices, Suzanne's in there.

It just might take time.

And courage.

When the dust settles, I hope Suzanne can be remembered for  her courage.

JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

Oh I think he convinced them all that she ran away with a lover and will contact them in time and let them know she is fine. I wonder what the daughters really believe?

I believe something along these lines as well.

Further, IMO, SM is viewed as a baddie who lied to her entire family, including the girls, and her own risky actions got her in trouble with the wrong person, that JL was just one guy she was in a relationship with outside of her marriage or she took off like she planned and talked to JL about - IIRC she would leave and wouldn’t be in contact for awhile. I think the affair made it easier for BM’s family to make her the maker of her own demise. All my opinion and not what I believe happened.

 

[WestGL]

While the snow melts, Barry’s book title contest:

A Perfect Night: Steak, Sex, and Sleeping
(while our possessions turned on and off, opened and closed, moved around by themselves, and my wife was never seen or heard from again)

 

[waldojabba]

I believe something along these lines as well.

Further, IMO, SM is viewed as a baddie who lied to her entire family, including the girls, and her own risky actions got her in trouble with the wrong person, that JL was just one guy she was in a relationship with outside of her marriage or she took off like she planned and talked to JL about - IIRC she would leave and wouldn’t be in contact for awhile. I think the affair made it easier for BM’s family to make her the maker of her own demise. All my opinion and not what I believe happened.

BBM above - I think you may have SM confused with Barry on this point. BM is the one who would take off for days and not be in contact. I don"t recall that at all about SM. imo

 

[Aloe]

No news from Saturday’s vigil??

 

[K9Enzo]

BBM above - I think you may have SM confused with Barry on this point. BM is the one who would take off for days and not be in contact. I don"t recall that at all about SM. imo

I’m not confused. Page 18 of the AA. IMO

Libler said they never made concrete plans, but she told him several times when she does leave Barry, she would go without contacting Libler for a while. Suzanne said she was not doing this for Libler but for herself.