Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #103

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  • #741
This might be considered off topic for this case, but I've been reading about another case here on WS and just realized that it features family members named "Moorman" located in Indiana, and wondered how crazy it would be if these were relatives of Suzanne. Do we know how much of her broader family lives there?

 
  • #742
I see I cut off my last post

Assuming BM is guilty, we know there are no witnesses. and surely none that have seen SM in this context, except her friends, with whom she might video call from in the car?

This feels like a very narrow cast message - revealing what LE hold.

These selfies were obviously not for Baz.
 
  • #743
This might be considered off topic for this case, but I've been reading about another case here on WS and just realized that it features family members named "Moorman" located in Indiana, and wondered how crazy it would be if these were relatives of Suzanne. Do we know how much of her broader family lives there?

It's not an unusual last name in the upper midwest... Hundreds in Indiana alone more in other states. My guess is no direct relationship.
 
  • #744
Did Barry have a four wheeler or ATV? I don't recall ever hearing about one, so I assumed not.
 
  • #745
So we're now in the middle of July and there has been NOTHING. Guess the snow is still there. When does it start snowing again in the higher elevations?
 
  • #746
Did Barry have a four wheeler or ATV? I don't recall ever hearing about one, so I assumed not.
In photographs taken of the flatbed trailer BM loaded for their move from IN to CO, BM had loaded a four-wheeler cross-wise at the rear of the trailer, behind his Bobcat and a jumble of boxes. Those photos were shown by Chris McDonough in one of his The Interview Room YouTube broadcasts, when he was doing some background investigation into BM’s early years and spoke with various of BM’s acquaintances.

IIRC, a four-wheeler also appears in some photographs taken at the condo where BM was living. I believe those photos were in the People’s Exhibits for the Preliminary Hearing, but am not sure at the present how to find those.
 
  • #747

A couple observations:
-Does Suzanne have a black eye in the pic on the left?
-The pic on the right is most certainly her in a blue biking jersey. You can tell by the sleeves and zip.
-Odd that both are from her sitting in her car.
-She appears to be wearing a wig in both pics, so they must be recent relative to her murder.
 
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A couple observations:
-Does Suzanne have a black eye in the pic on the left?
-The pic on the right is most certainly her in a blue biking jersey. You can tell by the sleeves and zip.
-Odd that both are from her sitting in her car.
-She appears to be wearing a wig in both pics, so they must be recent relative to her murder.
I thought they might be older than 2020. I don’t recall what images were the most recent to her disappearance.
 
  • #749
The lies terrified Suzanne too. She told her sister and her friend that Barry wouldn’t even look her in the eyes when she tried to confront him. Then he would leave…for days and turn his phone off. And for those who say that’s hearsay, how about the recordings LE have of them arguing about money?

We’ve all been lied to but knowing this guy is a known, habitual liar should frighten anyone. Especially his daughters.
I have 3 people in mind that can change this case.. the daughters and Sho. Maybe this sign is to pull at their heart. I am sure all 3 want to believe the best, but he did this to Suzanne and I have no doubt he wouldn't hesitate to do it again to one of those 3 ladies. I hope he just begins to unravel or one of them begin to question him or see parts of him they don't like. These things have a way of coming out over time and I just hope no other women are disappeared before this happens.
 
  • #750
Lol. I know. A fib, an exaggeration, a tale, whatever, it's a fricken lie. If your ego requires you to tell law enforcement that your wife "had an orgasm every time," it shows your insecurity, but I'd write it off.

But look at what Barry lies about...

Things that matter.

I'd like to think that the least we agree on is that Barry is a pathological liar, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
I just don't even know why this comes up in a police interview. Also, him telling their friends his daughter is the only virgin at her college. I recall another conversation where he said they did it several times a day in Florida. We know he lies a lot, but he also was so out of touch with what Suzanne even needed or wanted. I don't believe he even cared as long as he got what he wanted.
 
  • #751
I just don't even know why this comes up in a police interview. Also, him telling their friends his daughter is the only virgin at her college. I recall another conversation where he said they did it several times a day in Florida. We know he lies a lot, but he also was so out of touch with what Suzanne even needed or wanted. I don't believe he even cared as long as he got what he wanted.
He's just an incredibly immature dude.
 
  • #752
I have 3 people in mind that can change this case.. the daughters and Sho. Maybe this sign is to pull at their heart. I am sure all 3 want to believe the best, but he did this to Suzanne and I have no doubt he wouldn't hesitate to do it again to one of those 3 ladies. I hope he just begins to unravel or one of them begin to question him or see parts of him they don't like. These things have a way of coming out over time and I just hope no other women are disappeared before this happens.
I don’t believe any of them can stand up against Barry. I do think the new poster at Walmart with pictures of Suzanne is a way for LE to let the daughters know they have not given up on getting new charges filed against BM.

Wasn’t it the youngest daughter who, during the TV interview, insisted that Linda Stanley keep searching for Suzanne? Well, apparently that’s exactly what LE is doing.

As for Sho, I’m sure her intuition has let her know Barry used her and is continuing to do so. She is likely very frightened.
 
  • #753
I just don't even know why this comes up in a police interview. Also, him telling their friends his daughter is the only virgin at her college. I recall another conversation where he said they did it several times a day in Florida. We know he lies a lot, but he also was so out of touch with what Suzanne even needed or wanted. I don't believe he even cared as long as he got what he wanted.
Him boasting to anyone that his daughter was the only virgin at college is scary. How would he know? That’s a strange relationship he has with that girl.
 
  • #754
I just don't even know why this comes up in a police interview. Also, him telling their friends his daughter is the only virgin at her college. I recall another conversation where he said they did it several times a day in Florida. We know he lies a lot, but he also was so out of touch with what Suzanne even needed or wanted. I don't believe he even cared as long as he got what he wanted.
RBBM
Correct. IMO as is the case with most Narcissists,
it’s all about them ergo BM, who imo is a Narcissist, is much too self absorbed to consider or care about what other people’s needs or wants are to include Spouse, kids, friends, etc. As long as his needs are being met and he gets what he wants, that’s all that matters to him. Other people are seen and treated as possessions/objects that are there to please him and for him to control, use, abuse and discard/dispose of as he sees fit and/or to suit his needs. Case in point for just one example- when BM used his younger daughter as a shield (imo to do his dirty work), had the poor girl confront Lauren Scharf outside the Poncha Springs condo, then turns around and blames Lauren for upsetting his daughter. Classic manipulation and gaslighting, two common weapons in the abusive narcissist’s arsenal that he used on his own Daughter and a tenacious reporter who was trying to help him find HIS wife. It’s as awful as it is pathetic.

As to him telling friends during dinner conversation that his daughter is the only virgin at her college- First, how tf does he even know that. Second, how would his daughter feel about her Dad telling his friends something so personal. If she found out he had discussed her virginity with his friends, I’d think that would be very upsetting to his daughter. Some topics are off limits, and especially something so personal, something no Father should be discussing with his friends as dinner conversation! Omg. No. Just, no.

As if that all weren’t bad enough, he tells investigators that he and Suzanne did it several times a day in FL, that she had an ‘O’ every time they had sex etc., sure BM. Not really, probably just more of your lies. I mean, where I come from, those are the kinds of things most of the guy jocks boasted (lied) about to their friends/teammates in high school locker rooms (according to my male relatives lol). Which brings me to my next point, based on the way he talks and acts, methinks BM was emotionally stunted aged 14-17 somewhere in that range, since his high school baseball jock days anyways. IOW, imo BM is a man-child which is to say, an immature/emotionally stunted teenager living in a man’s body.

All one has to do is look no further than the AA and his statements like the ones noted above, and also saying to investigators something to the effect that all we men need is sex and we’re good, and about how he tried to cop a feel on Suzanne’s friend Holly, so gross! I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting but you get the gist. Yeah, imo he’s a man-child, narcissist and liar. He’s all that and worse- a murderer, that needs to pay for what he did. I do trust that investigators including Grusing an employee of CCSO now (yay!) are still working diligently behind the scenes, and hopefully justice for Suzanne will come sooner rather than later.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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In photographs taken of the flatbed trailer BM loaded for their move from IN to CO, BM had loaded a four-wheeler cross-wise at the rear of the trailer, behind his Bobcat and a jumble of boxes. Those photos were shown by Chris McDonough in one of his The Interview Room YouTube broadcasts, when he was doing some background investigation into BM’s early years and spoke with various of BM’s acquaintances.

IIRC, a four-wheeler also appears in some photographs taken at the condo where BM was living. I believe those photos were in the People’s Exhibits for the Preliminary Hearing, but am not sure at the present how to find those.

@Diddian : Is this the photo you're referring to? I've outlined what I think is an RTV in pink.

ETA: Click on the photo to view at full size.

JMVHO.
 

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  • #756
@Diddian : Is this the photo you're referring to? I've outlined what I think is an RTV in pink.

ETA: Click on the photo to view at full size.

JMVHO.
If he had one still in 2020 it's hard to believe LE wouldn't know and if they could tie it to the case I think they would have. If they can't present something beyond reasonable doubt they won't use it. That was some of the weakness in the original trial attempt in my opinion. It's a tough case to prove in my opinion and always has been.
 
  • #757
If he had one still in 2020 it's hard to believe LE wouldn't know and if they could tie it to the case I think they would have. If they can't present something beyond reasonable doubt they won't use it. That was some of the weakness in the original trial attempt in my opinion. It's a tough case to prove in my opinion and always has been.
It's more about whether he had the means to dispose of Suzanne at a separate location without the use of a car. He did. It reinforces that Barry had the means, the motivation, and the opportunity, to murder and disappear Suzanne Morphew.
 
  • #758
Lol. I know. A fib, an exaggeration, a tale, whatever, it's a fricken lie. If your ego requires you to tell law enforcement that your wife "had an orgasm every time," it shows your insecurity, but I'd write it off.

But look at what Barry lies about...

Things that matter.

I'd like to think that the least we agree on is that Barry is a pathological liar, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
I have no problem agreeing and I was raised with a fabulous Tale teller. I see a huge difference between telling tales and outright lying.

Tales are the crafting of a story. Tales are meant to entertain and shake your head. And wonder…could this possibly be true?

Lies are meant to deceive and disarm someone’s thoughts and to best serve the interest of the liar. The truth be dammed.

I had a brother that never ran out of TALES. Like the one he used to tell about his time in Viet Nam. One was The Pope secretly hopped a PBR up the Mekong Delta to Bless the troops on Christmas Eve 1967.
Some were still questioning that one 40 years later, at his funeral.

I never really knew that he did indeed take a duck to school.

Tales and lies are totally different IMO. I guess I wasn’t aware of Barry’s rich sense of humor and warm personality, somehow I missed that.
 
  • #759
It's more about whether he had the means to dispose of Suzanne at a separate location without the use of a car. He did. It reinforces that Barry had the means, the motivation, and the opportunity, to murder and disappear Suzanne Morphew.
Very few people I think disagree he had means, motive and opportunity. That is only the first hurdle :-(
 
  • #760
It's more about whether he had the means to dispose of Suzanne at a separate location without the use of a car. He did. It reinforces that Barry had the means, the motivation, and the opportunity, to murder and disappear Suzanne Morphew.

Agreed

They don't need to prove exactly how the body was hidden - only that he had possible ways to do it.
 
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