Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #103

[Goldenseal]

This might be considered off topic for this case, but I've been reading about another case here on WS and just realized that it features family members named "Moorman" located in Indiana, and wondered how crazy it would be if these were relatives of Suzanne. Do we know how much of her broader family lives there?

Found Deceased - IN - Kyran Holland, 1, Kyannah Holland, 2, Kyle Moorman II, 5, & dad, Kyle Moorman, 27, Indianapolis, 6 Jul 2022

Posted by his sister on Facebook - “A MISSING REPORT HAS BEEN FILED BUT THE POLICE WONT ISSUE AN AMBER ALERT ON THE CHILDREN JUST YET. THIS NEEDS TO BE SEEN PLEASE SHARE. My little brother Kyle Moorman & his kids haven't been seen or heard from since Wednesday night, they were last seen leaving...

www.websleuths.com

I just finished reading about that Moorman family and wondered the very same thing! It's not like "Moorman" is a common name . . .

 

[Seattle1]

RSBM

Not necessarily. There are numerous cases of bodies turning up in areas that have been 'searched' - even with dogs.

If the body is not lying out in the open, it can easily be missed.

Yes, absolutely. WS even has a thread devoted to cases where bodies are recovered from locations that were previously searched.

 

[katydid23]

I just finished reading about that Moorman family and wondered the very same thing! It's not like "Moorman" is a common name . . .

I had the same thoughts. It would be very sad because I think there were already two other recent deaths in Kyle Moorman's immediate family, before he and his 3 babies died.

 

[mrjitty]

Yes, absolutely. WS even has a thread devoted to cases where bodies are recovered from locations that were previously searched.

I was just remembering the case of the English trekker who went missing in mountains in on the spanish/french border during Corona. She went missing from a moderate track - seemingly having fallen off a bluff when making a detour to get a photo or look at the view. SARS and her boyfriend scoured the area for months. The body was in the open but had slid behind an outcrop. She was only found in then end because an animal moved some of her remains near to the track, narrowing her location down significantly (i.e. she was most likely uphill from the find).

It is possible, and maybe even likely, that searchers have been close to the body.

 

[Kemug]

Yes I get that. His narcicissim knows no bounds. But even so, I have never heard a man discuss his daughter’s virginity in public. Does this disgust her? Is she fine with it? These are questions we will never have answers for but that guy is way beyond narcicisstic.

Gross is the word, just gross.

 

[Megnut]

Gross is the word, just gross.

Yes, gross.

But also what's he saying about every other (young) woman????? "Hot Salida girls" comes to mind. As grossly inappropriate as his boundary-violating announcement was, IMO it's equally horrendous for what it reveals about how he thinks of college-aged women and OMG worse, that he's thinking about college-aged women in that context at all. Why is he thinking about that at all?????? Especially when he's got (well, had at the time) an angel at home? Wasn't that his defense? Me? Cheat? Why would I when I already have an angel?

What's a godly family man doing thinking about and making assumptions about the virginity/lost virginity of college coeds???????

Couple that with his internet searches, it's just gross. Gross, gross, with more gross on top.

JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

At two plus years, the search for disarticulation of skeletal remains is common from predation, weathering, and other influences. A bone trajectory path is an interesting study. Clothing gets taken by critters for nesting. If a body experiences trauma it's likely to decompose faster. The depth of the burial matters (if the body was buried). So many factors. Finding bodies is difficult; people have been right on them and are not sure what they are looking at but know something is out of place. Body/remains recovery is an exercise in clue awareness. IMO IMO

 

[Megnut]

At two plus years, the search for disarticulation of skeletal remains is common from predation, weathering, and other influences. A bone trajectory path is an interesting study. Clothing gets taken by critters for nesting. If a body experiences trauma it's likely to decompose faster. The depth of the burial matters (if the body was buried). So many factors. Finding bodies is difficult; people have been right on them and are not sure what they are looking at but know something is out of place. Body/remains recovery is an exercise in clue awareness. IMO IMO

I have conjectured from early, particularly in light of the de-antlered/de-skullcapped elk, that this hunter may have utilized many of his hunting skills and wildlife knowledge, to conceal the body in association with one or more animal carcasses. Theory, the scent of human decomposition would get swallowed up by scent of big game decomposition. Theory, maybe human bones would get lost amid a tangle of animal bones.

JMO

 

[Love Never Fails]

What a great post Megnut! Love to see him behind bars just for looking up hot young girls in Salida. Was he looking to see if his “virgin” daughter was listed on that site? He is sick. He uses his religion as a weapon and he is a true hypocrite. I can’t imagine what his daughters have lived through. And to think the oldest daughter went hunting and camping alone with him makes my skin crawl. I wonder what Suzanne found out about him and his personal/financial life that made her say “I’m done”?

I pray those close to him will wake up soon. Suzanne deserves Justice.

 

[Megnut]

Whoever accompanied Barry and photographed his body plant, I hope LE was able to chart their steps that day.

I've never been able to get that image out of my head. This was, what, Day 1 or 2, after he claims "the love of his life" went inexplicably missing (as if). I don't see the posture of grief. I see the posture of relief.

And that leaves me with the suspicion that Barry had very recently passed near Suzanne's hiding place and, not only did his secret remain safe, the site was eliminated. Big win for Barry.

Doing the starfish s the posture IMO of a winner. Jackpot, Wimbledon. Which I fear is exactly how Barry felt in that moment -- like he'd just won a million dollars.

And indeed he had.

Ghastly.

JMO

 

[Love Never Fails]

Whoever accompanied Barry and photographed his body plant, I hope LE was able to chart their steps that day.

I've never been able to get that image out of my head. This was, what, Day 1 or 2, after he claims "the love of his life" went inexplicably missing (as if). I don't see the posture of grief. I see the posture of relief.

And that leaves me with the suspicion that Barry had very recently passed near Suzanne's hiding place and, not only did his secret remain safe, the site was eliminated. Big win for Barry.

That body plant is the posture IMO of a winner. Jackpot, Wimbledon. Which I fear is exactly how Barry felt in that moment -- like he'd just won a million dollars.

And indeed he had.

Ghastly.

JMO

But maybe only short term. Hopefully the DA can wrap this up soon. Barry may have been successful in hiding her body but he will be found guilty of killing her.

 

[CGray123]

I have a hard time believing BM (including most people) can negotiate a high peak mountain at that elevation & terrain with a body. No. Regardless of BM’s hunting skills he wasn’t carrying dead animals up a mountain either.

If DA Stanley stated she believes SM’s remains are en route to BM’s hotel room, or in a rugged area off a service road by Puma Path, etc. Okay. But SAR can’t access this location safely, but BM could? Nah. IMO

I don't think safety is the primary concern, especially now. They are in the window for a search, as @Trackergd noted recently. I think cadaver dogs and perhaps other means of detecting remains (and perhaps a cooler) operate more effectively in warmer weather.

The investigators represented to the court that SM's remains were in a remote and mountainous area near the Puma Path residence, and they would not do that lightly. They have a good faith reason to believe they are close to finding SM, and they will be following up with a search when conditions are optimal for success (if the search is not already underway).

I agree though, that although BM was fit, strong, and acclimated to altitude from his firefighter training, he could not have carried SM's remains far uphill. I speculate that he had prepared a spot off a rough track - perhaps the remains of previous firefighting activity - then took the remains up the mountain via the ATV to a point on the track ABOVE the disposal site. He could then carry the remains more easily, downhill. All MOO.

 

[Boxer]

Whoever accompanied Barry and photographed his body plant, I hope LE was able to chart their steps that day.

I've never been able to get that image out of my head. This was, what, Day 1 or 2, after he claims "the love of his life" went inexplicably missing (as if). I don't see the posture of grief. I see the posture of relief.

And that leaves me with the suspicion that Barry had very recently passed near Suzanne's hiding place and, not only did his secret remain safe, the site was eliminated. Big win for Barry.

Doing the starfish s the posture IMO of a winner. Jackpot, Wimbledon. Which I fear is exactly how Barry felt in that moment -- like he'd just won a million dollars.

And indeed he had.

Ghastly.

JMO

MOO. I have always thought the starfish is anxious exhaustion. Up all night, the main event of getting away with it upon him.
Then that night he spent at his VFF buddy's place pacing and looking out the window MOO which is a guilty anxiety behavior.

 

[FromGermany1]

I speculate that he had prepared a spot off a rough track - perhaps the remains of previous firefighting activity - then took the remains up the mountain via the ATV to a point on the track ABOVE the disposal site. He could then carry the remains more easily, downhill. All MOO.

This comes to mind again .....

Firefighters save ghost town cabin from burning in wildfire on Colorado mountain pass | OutThere Colorado

Firefighters saved a slice of mountain history from burning to the ground on Tuesday in south-central Colorado.

www.outtherecolorado.com

 

[Megnut]

This comes to mind again .....

Firefighters save ghost town cabin from burning in wildfire on Colorado mountain pass | OutThere Colorado

Firefighters saved a slice of mountain history from burning to the ground on Tuesday in south-central Colorado.

www.outtherecolorado.com

Yes, that gives me new pause!

I wonder at what elevation that fire site sits. You know, speaking of snowmelt, it's not just that LE would need to reach (the ground) at a site where they believe Suzanne to be, they have to be able to excavate it. Safely. Whether this particular site or another. (Were firefighters, when fighting this fire, able to get trucks to the scene or did they have to carry their gear to it??????) LE might have to prepare a roadway of sorts, shore up ground, dig a parallell channel, etc. Makes you wonder if Barry is waiting for the caravan of heavy equipment to drive by. Or maybe it has. And with no immediate arrest, he feels in the clear again. Ah, but there's always further analysis, especially if LE were to find any kind of remains and sent it along for testing.

But the biggest thing about this fire site that strikes me? Fire. Smoke. That unmistakable nose-closing pungency of a structural bonfire.

We've been stuck on the smell of chlorine.

What if what Barry was trying to diffuse was smoke?!!!! If Barry spent four hours near that recent fire, he would've smelled like the whole bonfire!

How many showers with bleach would it take to remedy that?

He would've been rank, right down to his birthday soot.

As the heart and body, so the soul goes.

JMO

 

[CGray123]

I have to believe that the focus of any new searches would be in places that have not been searched since I don't know if they could get a new warrant from the new owners without something substantial that has been discovered.

RSBM. With respect, a warrant is not necessary if the owner of a property consents to the search. I don't see any problem securing consent from the new owner of PP, or the US Government that owns all the adjacent national forest land including all the high elevations.

 

[steeltowngirl]

I don't think safety is the primary concern, especially now. They are in the window for a search, as @Trackergd noted recently. I think cadaver dogs and perhaps other means of detecting remains (and perhaps a cooler) operate more effectively in warmer weather.

The investigators represented to the court that SM's remains were in a remote and mountainous area near the Puma Path residence, and they would not do that lightly. They have a good faith reason to believe they are close to finding SM, and they will be following up with a search when conditions are optimal for success (if the search is not already underway).

I agree though, that although BM was fit, strong, and acclimated to altitude from his firefighter training, he could not have carried SM's remains far uphill. I speculate that he had prepared a spot off a rough track - perhaps the remains of previous firefighting activity - then took the remains up the mountain via the ATV to a point on the track ABOVE the disposal site. He could then carry the remains more easily, downhill. All MOO.

Interesting thought - remains of a previous firefighting activity.

We may have covered this site before - 5.5 acres of this “ghost-town cabin” location known as Arbourville burned in early May 2020. Near MM 207 at Poncha Springs about 2.5 west of the Puma house in Maysville.

Firefighters save ghost town cabin from burning in wildfire on Colorado mountain pass | OutThere Colorado

Firefighters saved a slice of mountain history from burning to the ground on Tuesday in south-central Colorado.

www.outtherecolorado.com

 

[FromGermany1]

Yes, that gives me new pause!

I wonder at what elevation that fire site sits. You know, speaking of snowmelt, it's not just that LE would need to reach (the ground) at a site where they believe Suzanne to be, they have to be able to excavate it. Safely. Whether this particular site or another. (Were firefighters, when fighting this fire, able to get trucks to the scene or did they have to carry their gear to it??????) LE might have to prepare a roadway of sorts, shore up ground, dig a parallell channel, etc. Makes you wonder if Barry is waiting for the caravan of heavy equipment to drive by. Or maybe it has. And with no immediate arrest, he feels in the clear again. Ah, but there's always further analysis, especially if LE were to find any kind of remains and sent it along for testing.

But the biggest thing about this fire site that strikes me? Fire. Smoke. That unmistakable nose-closing pungency of a structural bonfire.

We've been stuck on the smell of chlorine.

What if what Barry was trying to diffuse was smoke?!!!! If Barry spent four hours near that recent fire, he would've smelled like the whole bonfire!

How many showers with bleach would it take to remedy that?

He would've been rank, right down to his birthday soot.

As the heart and body, so the soul goes.

JMO

Does it seem more clear now (with this fire on May 6th), that BM's firefighter friends were officially excluded from the search for Suzanne?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Whoever accompanied Barry and photographed his body plant, I hope LE was able to chart their steps that day.

I've never been able to get that image out of my head. This was, what, Day 1 or 2, after he claims "the love of his life" went inexplicably missing (as if). I don't see the posture of grief. I see the posture of relief.

And that leaves me with the suspicion that Barry had very recently passed near Suzanne's hiding place and, not only did his secret remain safe, the site was eliminated. Big win for Barry.

Doing the starfish s the posture IMO of a winner. Jackpot, Wimbledon. Which I fear is exactly how Barry felt in that moment -- like he'd just won a million dollars.

And indeed he had.

Ghastly.

JMO

Wasn’t Andy with him that day? I thought they did that search where the pic was taken right after he flew in from Indiana. I think that was also the time they walked within feet of where the helmet turned up. I bet LE talked to all of them that were searching that day.

 

[Murphy1950]

Wasn’t Andy with him that day? I thought they did that search where the pic was taken right after he flew in from Indiana. I think that was also the time they walked within feet of where the helmet turned up. I bet LE talked to all of them that were searching that day.

No, Andy wasn't...at the 20 minute mark
yeah you know barry was in one of the search parties so he would go off in one direction we'd
20:05
split up divide and conquer well he'd gone the back way up the
20:11
mountainside there and had stopped and he got out and wanted to look over a bluff
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and my friend got concerned because barry stopped and laid down on the ground right in the middle of it....