Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* #108

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  • #741
Why wasn't this search completed before they released that she was found? These people just love giving Iris ammo.

That is disturbing. You would think that entire area would have been combed through for a good week, people on hands and knees raking through the top layer of soil. So they wrapped up and then came back after the media and public had access?
 
  • #742
That is disturbing. You would think that entire area would have been combed through for a good week, people on hands and knees raking through the top layer of soil. So they wrapped up and then came back after the media and public had access?
We know BM has a love for bleach.
What are the other reasons for a hazardous materials truck to be present?
Because Suzanne is remains?
 
  • #743
That is disturbing. You would think that entire area would have been combed through for a good week, people on hands and knees raking through the top layer of soil. So they wrapped up and then came back after the media and public had access?

That would be correct. It's incompetence like this that makes this case drive me crazy.
 
  • #744
They do that because they are NOT finished. For example, as an anthropologist, I am sometimes asked to visit a particular scene. I can't just drop what I'm doing, to do that. I have given affidavits and professional opinions in several cases (not hundreds, but certainly more than a dozen). I cannot possibly arrive at any crime scene without several days notice. Most consultants have day jobs, often doing academic research. Indeed, any "expert" who isn't also publishing and working in an academic capacity is a bit suspicious to me.

The soil analysis alone (there are maybe 5 different types of experts for that) will require the experts to know where the crime scene is.

If I were in charge of such an investigation, I'd have several crime scene photographers come out (that's how I started in forensics - as a crime scene photographer, and I wasn't particularly good at it, not even after a year of doing, at which point I quit - the job had really high turnover, to say the least). The guy before me became a sheriff's deputy, because it was less emotionally difficult than being a crime scene photographer.

Really good close-up pictures of soil could be ordered by a geologist. A geologist might be asked to come out. MANY different things. The tape is there to warn the public not to go into the crime scene (everyone knows that these days, that might not work - but hopefully, any good journalist will know not to mess with the crime scene).

Certain parts of this crime scene will be investigated fully, as with any murder victim. There will be layers of pollen and dirt on the grave that are distinct from what's on the body (this does little to find a suspect, but it will make it clear WHEN Suzanne was put there - if that becomes an issue at trial). I predict that even the Defense will be willing to stipulate that Suzanne was placed there in May, 2020. While we may never hear about it at trial, that work does get done in the background, obviously. Just in case.

IMO.
I did consider maybe they weren’t done yet.

But wouldn’t the area still be blocked off then? I mean media is trampling all over it, does that not matter?
 
  • #745
Why wasn't this search completed before they released that she was found? These people just love giving Iris ammo.

Wait, Friday as in today. I saw these pictures earlier and assumed it was last Friday.

Um what?

Perhaps the autopsy lead them back to the area? Interesting.
 
  • #746
I did consider maybe they weren’t done yet.

But wouldn’t the area still be blocked off then? I mean media is trampling all over it, does that not matter?
Yup. Internet sleuths looking to find something left behind completely potentially destroying evidence they may have decided to go back for later. Not good, not good at all.
 
  • #747
No kidnapper is going to bury a body 3 feet.
They may throw some tumbleweed or plywood over the victim..but in that remote location.. I would doubt they would bother with any concealment.
Just incredible how transparent BM’s big picture he painted remains. What are the odds that a man who’s wife wanted a divorce just happened to be alone on Mother’s Day..her daughters both away,her husband away …decides to go for a bike ride and ends up an hour away under 3 feet of dirt. All whilst her busy husband is carrying shovels into a hotel lobby then leaving his room smelling like bleach & stopping at numerous trash bins to discard & discard.
Ugh.
I want to see his red botox face back behind bars. May justice be sure & swift.

MOO
During a covid lock down where everyone was afraid to be in public.
 
  • #748
I believe it’s possible to be strangled or asphyxiated without breaking the hyoid bone tho. So while many think he tranquilized her perhaps to the point of death, we just don’t know that. It is of course very strange that that item was found in the dryer, but maybe it was never used, or he shot and missed and then just smothered her with a pillow or whatever.

Yes. It is.

Which is why, to me, unless the hyoid bone evidence is there, strangulation is still on the table. It's not hard to do without breaking the hyoid bone (esp if a person is unconscious).

Could be smothering with a pillow. But I don't believe he killed her at PP. Never have believed it. I think he really did plan to tranquilizer/anesthetize her. He also threw away stuff related to that tranq dart in his 5 stops at trash dumping, IIRC. A bit too coincidental for me.

I doubt that Barry "shot and missed." There could have been a chase (and multiple darts) but I think this is a man who would not stop until he hit his target.

I think he'd be way more comfortable tranq'ing her to death that smothering her. It's fairly difficult to smother someone (although he could have done it - I'm not going to give instructions) but there's a risk of screaming, of his own hands being bitten (and he did have scratches, as it was). It's longer, slower, more brutal (esp. from his perspective as someone who owned and used deer tranquilizers).

IMO.
 
  • #749
I remember- quite some time ago- seeing photos of inside the Morphew house. I want to refresh my memory, but can't find these photos today. Can someone kindly tell me where I can find these? Thank you
 
  • #750
IIRC it pinged about a few miles from PP very early that Sunday morning when Barry was chasing after the imaginary Elk. :)
Hmmm I was under the impression it pinged off the tower that serviced their area which was down the road closer to Salida.
 
  • #751
I remember- quite some time ago- seeing photos of inside the Morphew house. I want to refresh my memory, but can't find these photos today. Can someone kindly tell me where I can find these? Thank you
A few here and there

 
  • #752
I did consider maybe they weren’t done yet.

But wouldn’t the area still be blocked off then? I mean media is trampling all over it, does that not matter?

I didn't see any media go past those markers, except with a drone.

Did you? I'd really like to know if you did see that. I haven't been able to watch all the media. I saw exactly one reporter, one camera person, stopping at the yellow tags (just as I would do, if I had my Press hat on).

Blocking off a remote area like that is often unfeasible. I've been involved with potential crimes (dead people) in National Parks and, well, no, they don't do anything other than put up evidence tags and yellow tape for the long run. It's true that really unscrupulous people might trample (and maybe it's wrong that some revealed the mile marker for this), but I do believe press has been respectful, as they usually are.

I know of no examples where legitimate media trampled a crime scene. It's death to a career, if that's found out. It's also (in some cases), a crime. I have no idea if they have an officer stationed out there (wouldn't be surprised) or a sign at the side of the road where the crime scene begins (that one's tough, as crimes happen at roadsides all the time - tape gets put up, but roads are not closed). Most people do not stop and invade crime scenes, though.

I also figure that those yellow markers at the edge of the scene are not marking crucial evidence. The kinds of things that a forensic anthropologist or forensic geologist would look for cannot be "trampled" that easily. At the same time, the amount of evidence left behind is likely small - and mostly, they need good digital photographs, with angles and measurements, to be able to digitally reconstruct the scene, either for the jury - or just for the investigation.

The fact that they retrieved Suzanne's port is phenomenal. Soil analysis needs to be done (and those markers will help the people who guide the geologists out there). Geologists will "trample" as well, I guess. Those footprints in what appears to be recent mud may have plaster stuck in them, just in case. I suppose some crazy person could drive all the way out there and destroy those footprints, but I'm guessing there are trail cams all over.

JMO.
 
  • #753
I remember- quite some time ago- seeing photos of inside the Morphew house. I want to refresh my memory, but can't find these photos today. Can someone kindly tell me where I can find these? Thank you

You can also go through the excellent Media Thread. I intend to do so if I can get some mental energy - there are tons of things I now think are relevant and that I should have put in my notes. Some WSers keep amazing notes. I give myself a grade of B minus on that. Much room for improvement, but I often clip things that others don't.

The Media Thread is full of links showing the Morphew home (unless the MSM has been taken down - which usually only happens at the request of a lawyer, I don't think it happened here with the interior pictures),

That picture of the garage, though. That was new to me. The living room had the heads as well (and had a couple of heads in it before the Morphews moved in, IIRC). It was sold as a kind of hunting lodge, IMO.
 
  • #754

Waist high....

They describe LE in a hole waist high....

3 feet.

Incredible that her remains were found, after predation of both the 2 and 4 legged variety and that her grave was found too. I imagine they brought dogs out...

IMO, Investigators processing a crime scene, and standing waist-high in a hole, sounds typical. I don't think the depth of the hole here--most likely dug with a backhoe, should be confused with word from the Coroner (body buried in a shallow grave). JMO
 
  • #755
That would be correct. It's incompetence like this that makes this case drive me crazy.
It was reported that investigators were out there for three days and found all they could. If so, they can’t babysit the area. And their search ended before it was announced publicly that Suzanne was found. They have what they need and aren’t talking.

edited for clarity
 
  • #756
I didn't see any media go past those markers, except with a drone.

Did you? I'd really like to know if you did see that. I haven't been able to watch all the media. I saw exactly one reporter, one camera person, stopping at the yellow tags (just as I would do, if I had my Press hat on).

Blocking off a remote area like that is often unfeasible. I've been involved with potential crimes (dead people) in National Parks and, well, no, they don't do anything other than put up evidence tags and yellow tape for the long run. It's true that really unscrupulous people might trample (and maybe it's wrong that some revealed the mile marker for this), but I do believe press has been respectful, as they usually are.

I know of no examples where legitimate media trampled a crime scene. It's death to a career, if that's found out. It's also (in some cases), a crime. I have no idea if they have an officer stationed out there (wouldn't be surprised) or a sign at the side of the road where the crime scene begins (that one's tough, as crimes happen at roadsides all the time - tape gets put up, but roads are not closed). Most people do not stop and invade crime scenes, though.

I also figure that those yellow markers at the edge of the scene are not marking crucial evidence. The kinds of things that a forensic anthropologist or forensic geologist would look for cannot be "trampled" that easily. At the same time, the amount of evidence left behind is likely small - and mostly, they need good digital photographs, with angles and measurements, to be able to digitally reconstruct the scene, either for the jury - or just for the investigation.

The fact that they retrieved Suzanne's port is phenomenal. Soil analysis needs to be done (and those markers will help the people who guide the geologists out there). Geologists will "trample" as well, I guess. Those footprints in what appears to be recent mud may have plaster stuck in them, just in case. I suppose some crazy person could drive all the way out there and destroy those footprints, but I'm guessing there are trail cams all over.

JMO.
Thank you,
 
  • #757
Can anyone helpfully clarify for me, I am seeing a lot of theories floating around regarding motive and the affair but also the fact that Suzanne wanted to leave and speculation that Barry was infuriated because he stood to lose half his assets.

However I recall very early on reading that Suzanne was actually more well-off than Barry, due to inheritance or something to do with her family's restaurant. Is that not the case? Was Barry actually worth 3 million by himself? Because I was under the impression 2 million of that was Suzanne's from her family somehow.
 
  • #758
Can anyone helpfully clarify for me, I am seeing a lot of theories floating around regarding motive and the affair but also the fact that Suzanne wanted to leave and speculation that Barry was infuriated because he stood to lose half his assets.

However I recall very early on reading that Suzanne was actually more well-off than Barry, due to inheritance or something to do with her family's restaurant. Is that not the case? Was Barry actually worth 3 million by himself? Because I was under the impression 2 million of that was Suzanne's from her family somehow.
If I remember correctly Suzanne had inherited a large sum of money from her family. I’m not really sure beyond that if Barry had money himself.
 
  • #759
Cuomo on NewsNation now discussing the Morphew case.
Playing the infamous Barry ‘oh Suzanne’ video.

Sara, a criminal defense attorney is discussing missing pieces on the case.
3 theories: strangulation, firearm or tranq dart.
Avid Hunter.

David Aronberg, attorney, discussing the DNA in car doesn’t help prosecution. Need his dna under her fingernails or something.

”chipmunk defense is bogus“
”why phone in airplane mode”

Cuomo is indicting prosecutors for not turning over exculpatory evidence.

ugh.
 
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  • #760
If I remember correctly Suzanne had inherited a large sum of money from her family. I’m not really sure beyond that if Barry had money himself.
So what was or is his profession? I’m seeing “landscaper” which can be very lucrative if you are literally doing hardscaping jobs in wealthy areas like building retaining walls and laying out gardens and basically building exterior living spaces… building patios, pergolas, decks, pool spaces and so on...
 
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