Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* #109

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Thank you! Can you explain what is considered qualified immunity?

Through SB20-217, Colorado became the first state to eliminate qualified immunity for police officers. Qualified immunity is a legal defense that states some government officials — including law enforcement — cannot be sued in their individual capacity unless they violated a person’s rights in a manner already determined unconstitutional by the courts.

One of the most controversial sections of the bill allows local governments to decide whether an officer should have to pay up to $25,000 of a settlement or judgment from a lawsuit if the officer acted in bad faith or should have known the action was unlawful. The law change sparked conversations about officers enrolling in insurance programs to shield them from financial liability.

Law enforcement leaders have often cited the changes to qualified immunity and indemnification as reasons they have struggled to recruit and retain officers.

Despite the fear around financial liability, that part of the law hasn’t been utilized yet. No Colorado law enforcement associations or organizations representing local governments were aware of a case where a government decided to make an officer pay.

3 years after Colorado’s landmark police accountability bill, what’s changed? And has push for further reform slowed? 7/2/23
 
My point though was we ALL have random unknown DNA in our homes for very innocent reasons and most of that will never be able to be ID'd to anyone in the event we go missing and they start swabbing and testing the house. What was the state supposed to do with all those if they didn't match anyone? If none of those random DNA hits even match each other, then it isn't even one person it's many and there is no way many intruders came in there and started going through the house and just left it in the same pristine condition Suzanne had it. I guess I just don't understand how any of those DNA hits match up to this could be the person that took Suzanne. The way the defense would present it though would be the state is allowing all these random intruders that left DNA to roam around to harm others while they focus on Barry and I don't think that is accurate either.

You said it so well. And, of course, there's no immediate way of separating out human DNA from other animals - or PLANTS.

Which is why forensic geneticists/anthropologists collect swabs only from certain places (like a tool that only a human can use).

Unlike blood, there's no luminol to find DNA. It is everywhere. It's always great when there IS blood or spit or semen (vast concentrations of DNA and easily connected to a particular type of animal), but those are not the only sources. We breathe it out with each exhalation. It's in our clothes. Our laundry bins.

Oh well. I foresee much longer investigations and trials in the future. And many hung juries, if more understanding about DNA is not required of the public.

IMO.
 
Through SB20-217, Colorado became the first state to eliminate qualified immunity for police officers. Qualified immunity is a legal defense that states some government officials — including law enforcement — cannot be sued in their individual capacity unless they violated a person’s rights in a manner already determined unconstitutional by the courts.

One of the most controversial sections of the bill allows local governments to decide whether an officer should have to pay up to $25,000 of a settlement or judgment from a lawsuit if the officer acted in bad faith or should have known the action was unlawful. The law change sparked conversations about officers enrolling in insurance programs to shield them from financial liability.

Law enforcement leaders have often cited the changes to qualified immunity and indemnification as reasons they have struggled to recruit and retain officers.

Despite the fear around financial liability, that part of the law hasn’t been utilized yet. No Colorado law enforcement associations or organizations representing local governments were aware of a case where a government decided to make an officer pay.

3 years after Colorado’s landmark police accountability bill, what’s changed? And has push for further reform slowed? 7/2/23
My goodness. This suit could ruin their lives. I can’t believe Iris is doing this for BM. She doesn’t care about him. This has to be for more namr building for herself and greediness. How could an attorney purposely want to destroy all these lives and live with herself?
If Barry was really innocent maybe she could zero in on a couple of people, maybe the DA for not turning over evidence in time but that’s done in every Stste. To win a suit against so many individuals who did their job is cruel snd insane.
Guess that’s the world we live in now.
 
My goodness. This suit could ruin their lives. I can’t believe Iris is doing this for BM. She doesn’t care about him. This has to be for more namr building for herself and greediness. How could an attorney purposely want to destroy all these lives and live with herself?
If Barry was really innocent maybe she could zero in on a couple of people, maybe the DA for not turning over evidence in time but that’s done in every Stste. To win a suit against so many individuals who did their job is cruel snd insane.
Guess that’s the world we live in now.
MOO
The buck stops with the DA. That is who presented the case for authority to arrest and responsible to bring the case to trial.
However if anyone knowingly followed an unlawful order,
they do belong with the DA in the suit.
 
My goodness. This suit could ruin their lives. I can’t believe Iris is doing this for BM. She doesn’t care about him. This has to be for more namr building for herself and greediness. How could an attorney purposely want to destroy all these lives and live with herself?
If Barry was really innocent maybe she could zero in on a couple of people, maybe the DA for not turning over evidence in time but that’s done in every Stste. To win a suit against so many individuals who did their job is cruel snd insane.
Guess that’s the world we live in now.
It's really frightening. Even before filing the Civil suit, IE publicly proclaimed she wanted the law licenses of every attorney who passed through the 11th Judicial District DA's office and worked on this case including LS, JL, MH, and others who were attorneys on loan. I don't know what makes her think she's the authority on who to ruin. It's vicious and mean-spirited to threaten one's livelihood. JMO
 
MOO
The buck stops with the DA. That is who presented the case for authority to arrest and responsible to bring the case to trial.
However if anyone knowingly followed an unlawful order,
they do belong with the DA in the suit.
Maybe this DA was too quick to charge, and inexperienced but she still doesn’t deserve this. Imo
 
It's really frightening. Even before filing the Civil suit, IE publicly proclaimed she wanted the law licenses of every attorney who passed through the 11th Judicial District DA's office and worked on this case including LS, JL, MH, and others who were attorneys on loan. I don't know what makes her think she's the authority on who to ruin. It's vicious and mean-spirited to threaten one's livelihood. JMO
Well while others respect her expertise in being someone who can get a guilty man set free, imo she’s a vile person whom I have no respect for. She wants to change the system and make it better by destroying so many lives? No. I hope she pays dearly for this error in judgment.
As much as I didn’t like her partner who got a sweetheart deal for Kenney in the Frazee case, I can see why they parted ways.
 
According to the DM (so needs additional research) job was arranged on May 10.

IIRC, the job to broomfield was put together early Sunday Morning, per MG's interview.

That whole interview says a lot, if to be believed, which I do.

BM's actions on Saturday, following their "leave early" work Saturday morning, he was going home to make wife "happy"--but was in town by himself, how strange he was acting, then the Sunday morning call to pick up other co-worker and head to Broomfield.
Where they walked into a room smelling of bleach, wet towels and no tools/equipment to do the job,
in a a town that has a "NO WORK POLICY ON SUNDAYS,.. much less on Mother's day.
MG hung up the phone and thought "BM has had the worst night of his life"

it wasnt BM -- it was SUZANNE, having /experiencing the Worst night of HER LIFE. IMO ‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation
 
Test it to do what with it?

Truly curious. I'm trying to imagine testing all the DNA that was found in the Idaho Massacre home at 1122 King in Moscow, ID (the Kohberger case). Or testing all the DNA that would be found at Puma Path. What is the point of that? What do they do with it after they test it?

Are people really expecting every single person that's ever been at a locale to be inspected and matched to DNA found at that locale? And if not everyone can be located (most won't be without IGG), what then? What is the point?

I'm not getting it at all. Even partial DNA? That could be a composite of several people?

Maybe people don't realize that you could probably eventually find 1000 potential donors of that partial DNA - with about 1-3 years of work by a team of Ph.D.'s with great medical equipment. We don't even have enough of those to provide top notch medical care to every citizen. It wouldn't stop with murder trials - it would be all major crimes. Would we let all the suspects out while this got done or keep potentially innocent people in jail while we testing all this? Crime investigations would routinely take YEARS longer (until we get a complete database of every human's DNA, which doesn't seem to be happening very quickly). Partial DNA can point to a pile of traits, but not to an identity of a person. It's like saying "oh, there are fingerprints, let's go look at ALL people's fingerprints until we find the match." Everyone has to march down to the fingerprint place, everyone has full sets taken and stored.

Except that fingerprints are easier to match. What a cumbersome system. There has to be other evidence that a person is involved a crime. DNA alone is not enough.

Do people not realize that their OWN DNA is in most places they've ever been? And that it persists for centuries? Sure, it can be degraded with chemicals, but most surfaces do not have those chemicals applied and even then, you would get PARTIAL DNA again! The little A, C, T and G pairs might survive bleach or hydrogen peroxide (just scrambled a bit - IOW, PARTIAL DNA again).

What investigation into stranger DNA in Idaho? I think I must be missing your point and am truly sorry. I am very familiar with the Kohberger case and wish there was an "open battle." There isn't. There may be. But it was a FULL MATCH. All 23 pairs of chromosomes present and accounted for. How is that anything like this case?

Bryan Kohberger's cheek swab 100% matched the DNA found on the knife sheath (of which there was enough to get more than one sample - although there wasn't a heck of a lot of it, it only takes one set of 1 - which was present on more than one swab of the use point of the sheath).

I strongly suspect that after a couple of serial killers were identified by DNA, and especially after GSK was apprehended, people came to the conclusion that "you got the DNA, you got your killer".

I wonder if everyone understands that to link DNA to the killer, it had to be found in a very specific place/under specific circumstances. Yes. There. I said it. It has to bespeak a certain action.

Today's SKs know about DNA and changed their behavior. They don't leave it where it will be damning, sorry. Regarding old-time killers apprehended today, we owe a lot to the LE who thought of collecting and keeping the material, and then, maintained unbroken chain of custody untill the technology became available. (The unbroken chain of custody shocks me even more. So there are organized people that can do it for decades...makes me want to cry).

So if it is a serial killer, but, sorry, someone has to word it, not a rapist, some touch DNA somewhere on the clothes, in the house, is hard to connect to a person, unless he leaves touch DNA on all his serial victims, or leaves the knives with his DNA at the handles next to all victims, for years.

This is why I am watching BK's case without making an opinion - you see, a sheath without a knife with just one dab of DNA and otherwise clean, might have been placed. It has to be an overwhelming amount of indirect evidence to persuade me. Until it happens, I am giving the accused the benefit of the doubt.

By the same token, someone's DNA on a glovebox, helmet, bike, in the house doesn't mean anything. A person is fixing an electronic appliance, someone is installing internet, someone brought Doordash delivery and grabbed the handle, someone came to buy antlers from Barry - not a proof of involvement in Suzanne's disappearance. I am thinking, car service, setting up remote garage door opening, cleaning the gutters, what not. Barry's DNA is all over Suzanne - by itself, it easily can be explained.

And BTW, Barry understands it. This is why he is pushing this "Suzanne using drugs" narrative. Because "bad people" could break in. (It is an absolutely ludicrous theory because for bad people selling drugs in rich neighborhoods, their clients have value only when alive - all murders will be among competitors. But Barry hopes we believe him.)
 
Colorado Bureau of Investigation forensic analysis determined that an unknown male DNA on the bike helmet, bike, Suzanne’s car’s glovebox and the backseat of the car did not belong to Barry. That DNA was later determined to partially match DNA found in three out-of-state unsolved sexual assault investigations.


Okay, if there was any question about the bike and helmet DNA, I'm positive Iris Eytan would bring it forward when she cited the SUV DNA. She didn't. So that DNA becomes a moot point. immho
 
IIRC, the job to broomfield was put together early Sunday Morning, per MG's interview.

That whole interview says a lot, if to be believed, which I do.

BM's actions on Saturday, following their "leave early" work Saturday morning, he was going home to make wife "happy"--but was in town by himself, how strange he was acting, then the Sunday morning call to pick up other co-worker and head to Broomfield.
Where they walked into a room smelling of bleach, wet towels and no tools/equipment to do the job,
in a a town that has a "NO WORK POLICY ON SUNDAYS,.. much less on Mother's day.
MG hung up the phone and thought "BM has had the worst night of his life"

it wasnt BM -- it was SUZANNE, having /experiencing the Worst night of HER LIFE. IMO ‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation

What I paid attention to in the article about MG:

"She said, back in town, she was approached by two men, both linked to Barry, who told her, “We would give you your paycheck, but we don’t want it to look like hush-hush money. You have rights, but you don’t have to give CBI your phone.”

So there are people linked to Barry who were unafraid to give MG the advices? Perhaps all these contacts have to be looked into? I mean, MG, a single mom, was BM's employee, not a slave. How can anyone tell her what to do unless she asks a legal advice?
 
IIRc, this brings up Barry’s many lies. At one point he says something about her wearing a white top to bed (I think with shorts). Another time I believe he said she slept naked. Anyone remember?
Well, as I recall, Suzanne always wore jammies.

Not only did Barry not realize the one dirty plate from "them sharing a steak" on the 9th would be trouble but he also left out a coffee mug on the counter. That's because Suzanne was already gone and wasn't present to eat, drink or clean.

Life Insurance does not pay out when the payee had been arrested and charged with the crime even though the murder is still unresolved. They'd hold it, imo.

Suzanne's brother made a statement in the beginning about the Puma Path house in that he felt it may be 7 years before Suzanne would be pronounced legally dead, hence, Barry wouldn't profit off Suzanne's demise. After 7 yrs, Barry would be free to absorb all of the marital assets.

However, Barry pulled a slick maneuver in Indiana by obtaining a power of attorney over his wife really quickly so he could sell their Indiana home, then since he held the POA, Barry was able to sell the Puma Path home also. He sold her RR. There's no way he would allow her gorgeous wedding rings to be scattered in the dusty desert in Moffat is there?
 
Hi All, a few pics of site Suzanne was supposedly found at. I didn't feel i should drive in. This was Saturday. Did not see any signs of LE activity.
 

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Colorado Bureau of Investigation forensic analysis determined that an unknown male DNA on the bike helmet, bike, Suzanne’s car’s glovebox and the backseat of the car did not belong to Barry. That DNA was later determined to partially match DNA found in three out-of-state unsolved sexual assault investigations.


Okay, if there was any question about the bike and helmet DNA, I'm positive Iris Eytan would bring it forward when she cited the SUV DNA. She didn't. So that DNA becomes a moot point. immho
Do you or anyone have the data on where the RR was purchased as it was not purchased new by the Morphew's? They made a trip to AZ. One of the SO is listed in AZ, iirc.

Someone gets a SO in AZ and moves to CO to start over in the mechanics dept wherever Suzanne had the vehicle serviced, is one idea. The vehicle was used. Who knows?

What newbies may appreciate seeing, too, is the photo of Barry moving his stuff to CO from IN. Remember he buried the sofa and items in the yard. They bought all new stuff for the Puma Path home but he loaded his trailer down with stuff, his safe, his antlers, and the interior of his truck was unreal. Suzanne was so embarrassed. Maybe someone can post that photo, too.
 
And some images of drive between Poncha Springs and site. Not sure this is very helpful, but thought i upload.
 

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What I paid attention to in the article about MG:

"She said, back in town, she was approached by two men, both linked to Barry, who told her, “We would give you your paycheck, but we don’t want it to look like hush-hush money. You have rights, but you don’t have to give CBI your phone.”

So there are people linked to Barry who were unafraid to give MG the advices? Perhaps all these contacts have to be looked into? I mean, MG, a single mom, was BM's employee, not a slave. How can anyone tell her what to do unless she asks a legal advice?
Forgot that! Thanks!
 
Some pics taken from the UFO Watchtower in Hooper. Just thought it shows vastness for the San Luis Valley well. This is maybe 15 minutes from where Suzanne was found.
 

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Hi All, a few pics of site Suzanne was supposedly found at. I didn't feel i should drive in. This was Saturday. Did not see any signs of LE activity.
Thank you @NoSI . Makes me sad to think she was in this desolate place. Easy to see why this location has been used by others as well. Like everyone here, I’m just so thankful she was found. She deserves a beautiful place to rest. Her family needs to heal.

Barry needs to go to prison.
 
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