Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #110

[Seattle1]

Yes and the store owners affirmed he had been there which was a conundrum as prosecution would have had to accuse them of lying. It may or may not have a place in a new trial if the timeline changes.

^^bbm

No, there was no conundrum and the prosecution did not accuse them of lying, but misremembering the date BM stopped at the store. I believe it was BM who also gave support to the shop owner's mistake in his conversations with Agent Grusing. But we know this wouldn't be the first time BM's defense arbitrarily decided what info BM told investigators was fact or fiction.

 

[Seattle1]

Perfect example of the method

The Prosecution is held to walking a fine line here whereas it's much easier for the defense to smudge the line.

^^rsbm

The following is a perfect example of BM's defense smudging the line to get their false DNA rhetoric info planted in the news.

From 10/22/21:

A family friend of Morphew sent 11 News Reporter Ashley Franco the documents. The intent to sue letter states that the District Attorney’s Office along with investigators in the case are withholding evidence and falsely accusing Barry Morphew. It was filed by lawyers on behalf of Barry. 11 News reached out to the District Attorney’s Office, but they would not comment on the letter.

Attorneys for Morphew say that investigators failed to mention that they knew the name of the man’s DNA that was allegedly found on Suzanne’s bike, helmet, sheets in the dryer, one of the bedrooms and in Suzanne’s car. This was mentioned during the preliminary hearing, but investigators didn’t go into detail about it. Morphew’s attorney’s claim that DNA allegedly matched sexual assault cases in Arizona. They say investigators never followed up on the matches.

Lawyers for Barry Morphew plan to sue prosecutors and investigators tied to the case of Suzanne Morphew

11 News has obtained a letter of intent to sue attorneys and investigators in the Barry Morphew case.

www.kktv.com

 

[kittythehare]

IMO, during the preliminary, the state responded to the defense's (strategic) examination of witness Joseph Cahill and partial profile DNA by instead focusing on where BM's DNA was found (bike, helmet, RR). Remember, the defense only called two witnesses, Cahill and the Deputy Sheriff who they accused of planting the cap inside the dryer.

In a Motions hearing subsequent to the PH and release of BM on bail, where witnesses were to be called to support the defense DNA allegations, I don't think it was any mistake that IE ran out the clock during the hearing but not before Judge Murphy repeatedly questioned IE why they were there or the purpose of the witnesses!

What followed before the hearing could be continued in Judge Murphy's courtroom was another defense Motion causing Murphy to recuse himself.

At this point, IE had already begun to fuel the SA DNA flames and soon after, sometime mid November October 2021, BM's new Civil defense team put all 26+ defendants on notice of BM's intent to sue for violation of his civil rights.

And the rest is history: IE continued the defense Motion hearing for sanctions in the house of Lama-- where, unfortunately, the Court could not hear beyond IE's misrepresented DNA evidence. MOO* (all linked* late in the prior thread).

And the media and nearly all the people, like lambs to the slaughter joined her on her 'alternative' reality planet.

It is my opinion that the alternative civil rights lawyer is taking up far too much of my time and not for the first time.
This straight after Tee and just prior to Tee is making it a Tee sandwich for me.


(antn' we can go digging while we're awaiting, that we did not dig before?)
Like shortcuts to the burial ground? Possibility he dug it on a different occasion ?

 

[SleuthBee]

I forgot Illinois. So 4 total and then the random mention of Maryland. View attachment 452155P noView attachment 452161

That is the issue. Prosecution should have turned over the DNA testing results, how they followed through and how they determined those partial matches were connected to people who could not be involved or be honest about any unknown partial matches. <snipped for focus>

"coulda, shoulda, woulda", but moving forward to where we are today. You posted parts of the civil complaint filed by IE (Am I correct?).

Please allow me to explain my experience with civil complaints where I was the plaintiff, it may shed some light the matter. My attorneys obtained the evidence I provided and wrote the complaint including the violations then send me the draft for review. I was stunned by what I read and couldn't believe that it was me they wrote about. I kid you not!

We met and they helped me understand their motivation was to avoid a trial and obtain a quick settlement. The matter was explained putting the defendant in the worst possible light, some facts were a bit distorted and the damages were exaggerated for maximum dollar value. Surprisingly, the defendant was not intimidated or moved to settle the matter quickly. My guess is that it's the nature of the beast known as civil suits.

We can think what we want to think about IE's written complaint, but my guess is that she wrote it with the same motivation as mine. Defendant portrayed in the worst light, facts distorted and Barry's damages exaggerated for maximum dollar value.

All of the defendants in IE's civil complaint are represented by wise legal counsel. They weren't intimidated or moved to settle the matter quickly and make it go away. And, they weren't in any hurry to provide an answer to it either.

Suzanne's body was discovered and neither LE or the defendants said a word. But it's what they DID that brings comfort to my soul about this case. They filed a motion to dismiss IE's case.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

We saw Barry soaking wet coming from the river ( with Mom Shirley sitting shotgun in his waiting truck) in Tyson Draper’s video early on I believe. Many then speculated he was looking for the phone or maybe even perhaps looking for her diamond ring. JMO.

It seems he would only be doing that if he had no idea where her body was. If he put the body somewhere then he most likely knows where the phone and any jewelry is. And if he didn’t know where she was he could have been honestly looking.

 

[justtrish]

It seems he would only be doing that if he had no idea where her body was. If he put the body somewhere then he most likely knows where the phone and any jewelry is. And if he didn’t know where she was he could have been honestly looking.

I don't think he put her phone with her body. He tossed it somewhere and I think he was looking for it. He told LE she was riding with that helmet the jacket and her phone. He left the bike, then the helmet for police to find. I think he was wondering why they didn't find the phone! He had to go look himself.

He knew where her body was and he was not going south for any reason.. keeping all the focus up by the house and acting like he was bothered her brother and the searchers wanted to come there.. all distractions from where he knew she was.

 

[GOBliaison]

​

..."invite hosts reminded of how IE adopted her DNA soundbite...

Why not, indeed!
...but then again...
​

..."Hello, Mr. C.? This is Iris. From not too far back, you may recall ?

Just calling to say 'Hi', and learn if you're aware of, or perhaps have even viewed yourself, that actionable piece of libel that was just published to millions, coast-to-coast, about your actions to secure justice for one you swore to Serve and Protect, Mr. Barry Morphew?
No?
Well, I've recorded it, and wonder if you'd care to stop by AYC and chat about it. I have $ome idea$ that we might wi$h to explore.
Buh' b'bye.
_____________________
ATA
[Apologies To All]
for being the(?) perennial gadfly
______________________

 

[10ofRods]

Oh Iris is educated on that DNA. She is banking on nobody else being educated on it. She is just using that as a way to get her client out of a murder conviction.

Not so sure. If true, then she's far more formidable than I think she is. As long as she has people convinced she "knows DNA,' I don't think Suzanne will have justice.

Why do you think IE knows about DNA? Specifically, partial matches? Are you saying she's lying to the court?

 

[Momofthreeboys]

"coulda, shoulda, woulda", but moving forward to where we are today. You posted parts of the civil complaint filed by IE (Am I correct?).

Please allow me to explain my experience with civil complaints where I was the plaintiff, it may shed some light the matter. My attorneys obtained the evidence I provided and wrote the complaint including the violations then send me the draft for review. I was stunned by what I read and couldn't believe that it was me they wrote about. I kid you not!

We met and they helped me understand their motivation was to avoid a trial and obtain a quick settlement. The matter was explained putting the defendant in the worst possible light, some facts were a bit distorted and the damages were exaggerated for maximum dollar value. Surprisingly, the defendant was not intimidated or moved to settle the matter quickly. My guess is that it's the nature of the beast known as civil suits.

We can think what we want to think about IE's written complaint, but my guess is that she wrote it with the same motivation as mine. Defendant portrayed in the worst light, facts distorted and Barry's damages exaggerated for maximum dollar value.

All of the defendants in IE's civil complaint are represented by wise legal counsel. They weren't intimidated or moved to settle the matter quickly and make it go away. And, they weren't in any hurry to provide an answer to it either.

Suzanne's body was discovered and neither LE or the defendants said a word. But it's what they DID that brings comfort to my soul about this case. They filed a motion to dismiss IE's case.

If you spin things on their head we are at ground zero. We started with an AA that contained information that would never be admissible and slowly built out what “we” thought the actual facts of the case consisted of and now we have a civil case that we will have to shoulder through to get more facts. Meanwhile we hopefully have some manner of LE reconstructing and re-evaluating and hopefully starting at ground zero. I am patient. I didn’t overestimate the strength of the original trial case and I won’t underestimate what might be leaned from the civil case.

 

[10ofRods]

It seems he would only be doing that if he had no idea where her body was. If he put the body somewhere then he most likely knows where the phone and any jewelry is. And if he didn’t know where she was he could have been honestly looking.

Honestly looking...for what? It's a tiny creek. No way a body was submerged there. It would seem to have been a calculated action. I can totally believe he was looking for a phone or other evidence (that he had thrown there).

But if he was "honestly looking" for his wife, he sure didn't give a good performance of that. Everyone wondered why he didn't hold a presser, a vigil, ANYTHING, to get the focus on finding his beloved wife - along with any clue as to who took her. He doesn't demand video footage (from various sources). He talks to a camera ("Oh Suzanne") as if talking to Suzanne is going to find her.

If he did toss evidence in the creek, I wonder if he ever found it. TD was not there all day and all night long. Why would a man look for the body of his grown wife in such a shallow place? On your theory, he surely has to be looking for other evidence.

He would have been better off asking actual investigators to look in the creek (and upcreek). Which, I believe, they actually did (but not because Barry asked them to). OTOH, I do understand wanting to be proactive when one's family is involved. I just have a hard time believing that was Barry's most Suzanne-oriented moment.

IMO.

 

[SleuthBee]

@kittythehare pointed out that partial DNA is evidence of nothing. Made sense to me.

On 9/22, Suzanne's body was located and LE's response has been ... radio silence.

The defendants in the civil suit ARE the law enforcement actively investigating the case and they know what was found. Within 6 days, they filed a motion to dismiss Barry's 15 mil civil suit

IMO, their actions spoke louder than words.

 

[10ofRods]

I don't think he put her phone with her body. He tossed it somewhere and I think he was looking for it. He told LE she was riding with that helmet the jacket and her phone. He left the bike, then the helmet for police to find. I think he was wondering why they didn't find the phone! He had to go look himself.

He knew where her body was and he was not going south for any reason.. keeping all the focus up by the house and acting like he was bothered her brother and the searchers wanted to come there.. all distractions from where he knew she was.

Your post makes me think about performative criminality. Staging. Etc. His mother surely wondered why he wasn't "doing something" to find Suzanne, so maybe he took her out to show her what he could do. Really good manipulation of a family member (Mom). Probably lifelong.

IMO.

 

[Hilt]

FWIW I think Barry destroyed Suzanne's phone and threw it in the creek, expecting it to be found, in an exceptionally useless state.

Went swimming later in search of the same.

JMO

I agree. After he flung the bike down the bank, just before he reached Highway 50, he drove west (on an elk horn hunt!) past where the helmet was chucked and went another 2 miles west on Highway 50 paralleling the S. Arkansas River (it is really only a creek in this stretch). There was no reason to continue going west for 2 miles unless another "Suzanne item" needed to be deposited to reinforce the idea of a perpetrator taking her to the west, the opposite away from Mr. Morphew's route to the wall job. The phone seems like the ideal item but it had to be in a condition where data was destroyed for obvious reasons.

Since he could turn around at any time I would think he threw it out somewhere near where he actually did turn around in Garfield. At that point there is a slope of about 160 feet down to the River.

Do you think he might not have intended the phone to go into the River since it might be washed away and not found? If so, it implies he destroyed, or thought he had destroyed, the phones data and perhaps it inadvertently got into the River and has not been found. The Arrest Affidavit makes clear that Mr. Morphew thought LE not found her phone (pages 58 and 79 of AA).

 

[kittythehare]

@kittythehare pointed out that partial DNA is evidence of nothing. Made sense to me.

On 9/22, Suzanne's body was located and LE's response has been ... radio silence.

The defendants in the civil suit ARE the law enforcement actively investigating the case and they know what was found. Within 6 days, they filed a motion to dismiss Barry's 15 mil civil suit

IMO, their actions spoke louder than words.

and now she wants them all removed from the case...
She's funny but it's tedious.
Media is tedious.

Also I forgot rakes of information until I was reminded of it..
3 years isn't really long enough to be forgetting things...

It's a case that still wounds deeply and invokes the deepest compassion for the victim.

I often wonder what she'd be doing now had she escaped on time.. I have no doubt her siblings and friends are thinking like that too.


I reckon she would have come fully into her own light, whole and healed.

If he is ever convicted it may be possible that she will receive a similar release on a different dimension.

I often think that is our goal here on ws, to make it right for the victims..

 

[Megnut]

IMO there will be no civil case. Mountain lion had it for supper.

What if Barry is wrongly convicted?

Oh, he won't be wrongly convicted. (Quote JGrusing)

I trusted you. (Quote BMorphew)

Yeah? Well, she trusted you.

And you fed her to the wolves.

Shaking his head no, to whoever has you, we just want you back....

Knowing he'd left her under the sagebrush, dark and desolate.

Dark lord.

JMO

 

[justtrish]

Honestly looking...for what? It's a tiny creek. No way a body was submerged there. It would seem to have been a calculated action. I can totally believe he was looking for a phone or other evidence (that he had thrown there).

But if he was "honestly looking" for his wife, he sure didn't give a good performance of that. Everyone wondered why he didn't hold a presser, a vigil, ANYTHING, to get the focus on finding his beloved wife - along with any clue as to who took her. He doesn't demand video footage (from various sources). He talks to a camera ("Oh Suzanne") as if talking to Suzanne is going to find her.

If he did toss evidence in the creek, I wonder if he ever found it. TD was not there all day and all night long. Why would a man look for the body of his grown wife in such a shallow place? On your theory, he surely has to be looking for other evidence.

He would have been better off asking actual investigators to look in the creek (and upcreek). Which, I believe, they actually did (but not because Barry asked them to). OTOH, I do understand wanting to be proactive when one's family is involved. I just have a hard time believing that was Barry's most Suzanne-oriented moment.

IMO.

I think he was upset they didn't find his planted items. Like he wanted LE to find these things he said she biked with.. then they didn't. lol I can see him thinking he was going to go find them and show LE he was trying to help.

Don't forget when he finally did speak it was the recorded thingy where he shook his head no the entire time and not a word of it was believable.. well except the Oh Suzanne.. that said it all.. he blamed her.

 

[justtrish]

I wonder if police have ever went back and searched the road from the helmet up to the "turn around spot" and back. Maybe with metal detectors. I know likely no manpower for that, but I sure do think he deposited at least one other item along that route.

 

[10ofRods]

I think he was upset they didn't find his planted items. Like he wanted LE to find these things he said she biked with.. then they didn't. lol I can see him thinking he was going to go find them and show LE he was trying to help.

Don't forget when he finally did speak it was the recorded thingy where he shook his head no the entire time and not a word of it was believable.. well except the Oh Suzanne.. that said it all.. he blamed her.

Very good points. Probably upset him that they didn't find all his planted items. Typical thinking of a linear person in crisis.

He could have been a "hero" for finding "new evidence." Except he didn't find it. He had so many things on his mind at the time! Had to make videos directed AT Suzanne (as if he knew she was still alive and that she had...a part in her own disappearance - that's how it seemed at the time).

He blamed her for her own disappearance was my main takeaway, too. It's awful.

 

[SleuthBee]

If you spin things on their head we are at ground zero. We started with an AA that contained information that would never be admissible and slowly built out what “we” thought the actual facts of the case consisted of and now we have a civil case that we will have to shoulder through to get more facts. Meanwhile we hopefully have some manner of LE reconstructing and re-evaluating and hopefully starting at ground zero. I am patient. I didn’t overestimate the strength of the original trial case and I won’t underestimate what might be leaned from the civil case.

I spun nothing (if that's what you meant). My response to your comments was only intended to point out that civil complaints are not necessarily a statement of fact and can be written with the motivation of a quick settlement. AA's are a whole different matter.

I mean NO disrespect to you at all. But, IMO I think you are giving the civil complaint too much weight. It may be nothing more than another Morphew money grab.

Think about this ---> They found Suzanne's body. The defendants in that civil suit ARE the same people actively investigating the case. They know what they have. 6 days later, they filed a motion to dismiss that suit. IMO, the timing sends the message that civil suit is better off dismissed! What do you think about that?

They have a body now. They have new evidence. There will be new charges.
It's a new day @Momofthreeboys

 

[SleuthBee]

I don't think he put her phone with her body. He tossed it somewhere and I think he was looking for it. He told LE she was riding with that helmet the jacket and her phone. He left the bike, then the helmet for police to find. I think he was wondering why they didn't find the phone! He had to go look himself.

He knew where her body was and he was not going south for any reason.. keeping all the focus up by the house and acting like he was bothered her brother and the searchers wanted to come there.. all distractions from where he knew she was.

Wasn't her phone used as a bread crumb pointing west, LOL! I think she was already buried down south when he dropped that crumb.