Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #111

[justtrish]

Also, let's not forget the text from the daughter to her boyfriend. She was worried she wouldn't reach her mothers and what did she say? I bet they had a fight (not sure the exact wording, I'll look it up and edit the post) Why would that be her first reaction on Mother's Day when you can't reach your mom? That was before they knew she was missing, before they knew he was working 2 hours away, before LE was involved and before they changed their stories so dad didn't look guilty. She was worried about her mom, not because she might have wrecked while biking, or got lost hiking or had a wreck, or maybe the cell towers were down, or any other innocent explanation.. she said she thought they had a fight.

 

[Megnut]

Also, let's not forget the text from the daughter to her boyfriend. She was worried she wouldn't reach her mothers and what did she say? I bet they had a fight (not sure the exact wording, I'll look it up and edit the post) Why would that be her first reaction on Mother's Day when you can't reach your mom? That was before they knew she was missing, before they knew he was working 2 hours away, before LE was involved and before they changed their stories so dad didn't look guilty. She was worried about her mom, not because she might have wrecked while biking, or got lost hiking or had a wreck, or maybe the cell towers were down, or any other innocent explanation.. she said she thought they had a fight.

Yes, the very same marriage that was rewritten as a perfect one.

Curiously, when Grusing confronted Barry over JL, Barry claimed no advance knowledge, then declared he wouldn't be able to take Suzanne back should she return, he felt so verklempt over it.

And yet, it was months prior that he began swapping Bible verses with SD... hmm... that's peculiar... he already knew either she wasn't coming back or he wouldn't take her back, over an affair he wouldn't know anything about until Grusing bared it to him. Messed up his own storyline.

Altogether now

Geez, Barry.

JMO

 

[justtrish]

Something I wonder after looking for the text from her daughter, I found this article and was looking at the timeline.. something occurs to me. We've talked about Barry being at the Spa Store and maybe they had the days mixed up because they weren't open at that time on Saturday, but what if they were not open, but in the store and he really did go there to get chemicals. I copy pasted the parts below that caught my eye. So the stove and spa store in actually on the way if Barry left his house and went to Moffat.. he would pass by the Stove and Spa store. So did he go in a different car. He opens his truck door at 4:44pm and then at 5:25pm he backs the truck up away from the garage.. SO did he move the truck to access one of the other vehicles in the garage. If he left at that time in another car and drove to the spa store then down to Moffitt, he would have PLENTY of time to be home by 10:17pm when his phone is taken off airplane mode. Truck never leaves the driveway and he can be seen at the spa store and then drive straight down to Moffat. Google tells me from Salida Stove and Spa to Moffat is 40 miles and 39 minutes drive. So let's say he is in the store about 5:30 or so and even if he leaves by 6pm he can be in Moffat by 6:45pm.. should be getting dark or already dark by then. He'd need to leave Moffat by 9:30pm to be home and taking his phone off airplane mode at 10:17pm. Google tells me Moffat to Maysville is 46 miles and 46 minutes drive. I have always went back and forth on if he buried her before that 10:17 airplane mode change or after and I think I've decided it was before.. then from 10:17pm on he showered, cleaned up things he thought needed to be cleaned up, burned the journal, tried to figure out what to do.. then he decides it's a bike ride so he begins planning what needs to go where.

Investigators: ‘Suzanne Morphew was having an affair for 2 years,’ more details revealed in husband’s hearing

For the first time since bringing charges against Barry Morphew, accused of killing his wife Suzanne, prosecutors outlined their investigation in detail in open court.

kdvr.com

At 4:44 p.m., Morphew’s truck door opened and closed. At 5:25 p.m., the gear shift went from park to reverse and moved backward in the driveway 95 feet.

Morphew’s defense says he visited the Salida Stove and Spa between 4 and 5:30 p.m. that day, and spoke with two employees at the store.

At 10:17 p.m. on May 9, Morphew’s phone was taken off airplane mode and it was home.

At 2:53 a.m. May 10, there is an outgoing call on Suzanne’s phone.

At 3:25 a.m. May 10, Morphew’s truck doors were opened and closed. The phone moved toward the location where the bike was found, according to Grusing.

At 4:31 a.m. May 10, Morphew’s phone went back into airplane mode. His phone came back online and he traveled toward Broomfield. Agent Grusing pointed out that GPS can still be tracked when a phone is on airplane mode.

Around 5:37 a.m., Morphew was heading towards Buena Vista, driving through Johnson Village.

 

[Megnut]

Something I wonder after looking for the text from her daughter, I found this article and was looking at the timeline.. something occurs to me. We've talked about Barry being at the Spa Store and maybe they had the days mixed up because they weren't open at that time on Saturday, but what if they were not open, but in the store and he really did go there to get chemicals. I copy pasted the parts below that caught my eye. So the stove and spa store in actually on the way if Barry left his house and went to Moffat.. he would pass by the Stove and Spa store. So did he go in a different car. He opens his truck door at 4:44pm and then at 5:25pm he backs the truck up away from the garage.. SO did he move the truck to access one of the other vehicles in the garage. If he left at that time in another car and drove to the spa store then down to Moffitt, he would have PLENTY of time to be home by 10:17pm when his phone is taken off airplane mode. Truck never leaves the driveway and he can be seen at the spa store and then drive straight down to Moffat. Google tells me from Salida Stove and Spa to Moffat is 40 miles and 39 minutes drive. So let's say he is in the store about 5:30 or so and even if he leaves by 6pm he can be in Moffat by 6:45pm.. should be getting dark or already dark by then. He'd need to leave Moffat by 9:30pm to be home and taking his phone off airplane mode at 10:17pm. Google tells me Moffat to Maysville is 46 miles and 46 minutes drive. I have always went back and forth on if he buried her before that 10:17 airplane mode change or after and I think I've decided it was before.. then from 10:17pm on he showered, cleaned up things he thought needed to be cleaned up, burned the journal, tried to figure out what to do.. then he decides it's a bike ride so he begins planning what needs to go where.

Investigators: ‘Suzanne Morphew was having an affair for 2 years,’ more details revealed in husband’s hearing

For the first time since bringing charges against Barry Morphew, accused of killing his wife Suzanne, prosecutors outlined their investigation in detail in open court.

kdvr.com

At 4:44 p.m., Morphew’s truck door opened and closed. At 5:25 p.m., the gear shift went from park to reverse and moved backward in the driveway 95 feet.

Morphew’s defense says he visited the Salida Stove and Spa between 4 and 5:30 p.m. that day, and spoke with two employees at the store.

At 10:17 p.m. on May 9, Morphew’s phone was taken off airplane mode and it was home.

At 2:53 a.m. May 10, there is an outgoing call on Suzanne’s phone.

At 3:25 a.m. May 10, Morphew’s truck doors were opened and closed. The phone moved toward the location where the bike was found, according to Grusing.

At 4:31 a.m. May 10, Morphew’s phone went back into airplane mode. His phone came back online and he traveled toward Broomfield. Agent Grusing pointed out that GPS can still be tracked when a phone is on airplane mode.

Around 5:37 a.m., Morphew was heading towards Buena Vista, driving through Johnson Village.

I can't rule this out.

The dogs alerting in the morning, however, makes me think Barry was in the presence of cadaverine which means a body that had been dead about 12 hours already. That means 2-3am....

I have wondered if all that showering had less to do with guilt or DNA and more to do with diffusing an overpowering smell. Spa chemicals would do that.

So, could he have gone to the spa store late day on Saturday? Didn't MG say she was irritated that Barry cut their full day of work (to go hiking or biking to make the wife happy) but heard he'd been in town shopping instead?

I'm with the posters who agree that Suzanne did not leave her car the way it was found. Someone with a proclivity for messmaking made a mess of it IMO.

A trial should clear all of this up nicely.

JMO

 

[Boxer]

Also the spa store owner and his son were close friend's and co-workers of BMs. If went to the SS&S at any time, it would not be closed for him.

 

[Seattle1]

Something I wonder after looking for the text from her daughter, I found this article and was looking at the timeline.. something occurs to me. We've talked about Barry being at the Spa Store and maybe they had the days mixed up because they weren't open at that time on Saturday, but what if they were not open, but in the store and he really did go there to get chemicals.

^^rsbm

Too many years have passed but I vaguely recall that the retail store closed early on Saturday's but the repair shop could be open where BM would be welcome to pop in and converse with the owner.

I also want to say there was a text or call log evidence of BM contacting somebody at the Stove and Spa repair shop-- asking them to come service his spa.

More recently, from allegations filed against DA Stanley, she allegedly texted somebody that the spa at Puma Path had not been operable for sometime.

Could it be that BM never purchased the Spa Chemicals but they were instead delivered by the repairman?

I think there was even a scenario floating around that the diagnostic on the spa was that the repair estimate was more than BM wanted to invest in their aging model and no repair completed.

MOO

 

[Hilt]

Building on recent posts, here are some thoughts for discussion that relate to Suzanne’s bike stuff and 2 or 3 empty spa chemical bottles being found, (possibly tossed rather haphazardly) in the front of Suzanne’s car.

Assessing certain evidence in this case depends heavily on whether the murder was carefully planned or a crime of passion. If Mr. Morphew planned the killing at least a couple days in advance, then there would be more time to determine how to eliminate evidence, stage the crime scene, dispose of the body and plant “fake” evidence.

If Suzanne’s killing was a second-degree crime of passion (or first-degree with a small amount of pre-planning), I would expect a much more haphazard attempt at staging and to a more limited degree (due to time constraints).

For various reasons I’m thinking Mr. Morphew made the decision to kill his wife without a great deal of planning. It may have been planned to an extent that would qualify as first-degree murder but not enough to where he didn’t have to scramble to fake a crime scene, ditch evidence, and hastily dispose of the body. I would submit that the bike crash/abduction staging alone establishes little aforethought. Leaving her biking gloves and shorts in the master closet (Page 5 of Arrest Affidavit) and her shades/camelback/ID in her car when the bike and helmet are down the road a mile or two indicates a last minute, very poorly thought-out plan to establish an alternative theory for the murder (likely conceived while Mr. Morphew was perspiring pure adrenaline).

And the empty spa chemical bottles scattered on the floor of her car also seems a bit off. Ignoring why they weren’t in the trash/recycling, it is inconsistent with the statements of DA Stanley; who when asked if the killing took place in the hot tub, said that the tub looked like it had not been used “in a long time”. If the contents of the empty bottles had been used to prepare the hot tub for use on Saturday it would include turning the tub on, bringing it up to temperature and circulating the chemicals (and likely general cleaning).

So, things that obviously would have to be part of the staged bike ride, and the empty spa bottles (the contents of which were used for something other than the spa) are found together in her car. Meanwhile, other necessary bike ride items (gloves and shorts) are in a different location (though in fairness, she no doubt had multiple pairs of riding shorts). This I believe is a conundrum, the response to which could have significant implications to the commitment of this crime.

One other element is the inconsistency of the “morning bike ride”. Mr. Morphew offered without prompting that, "Well, she's ridin' her bike but I'm a little concerned, because I think she said she was gonna take a morning ride". However, others (who I would argue have far lesser motivation to misrepresent) said she normally/regularly road in the afternoon (per Mallory Morphew, Page 6 of AA) or evening (per Libler, Page 16 of AA).

So, on the day she disappears, when the 9AM temperature was in the low-mid-40s, she deviates from her apparently well-known routine and takes off without shades, gloves, pack, snacks, or ID.
Since only Mr. Morphew would have a reason to stage the bike and helmet far from their home, I’d say it’s clear that his bit of fakery was hatched from a frantic mind (one that already suffered from a lack of certain critical thinking resources). But what does Websleuth’s Hive Mind think about the use/disposition of the spa chemicals and how they ended up in the car?

Two side notes:

1. Suzanne’s biking pack looks very similar to the Camelbak Rogue Light (in Ibiza Blue, below), which is a very popular model. Notably, the Rogue has storage space for phones, keys, wallets, snack packages, like those shown in the picture of her Range Rover, etc. and a stretch overflow pocket for a light layer like a windbreaker.

2. Sodium hypochlorite, a common spa sanitizer, destroys DNA and is used in DNA labs for decontamination. If it was used, its concentration would be about 1/10th of that of bleach and lingering odors far less likely.

 

[Seattle1]

So, on the day she disappears, when the 9AM temperature was in the low-mid-40s, she deviates from her apparently well-known routine and takes off without shades, gloves, pack, snacks, or ID.
Since only Mr. Morphew would have a reason to stage the bike and helmet far from their home, I’d say it’s clear that his bit of fakery was hatched from a frantic mind (one that already suffered from a lack of certain critical thinking resources). But what does Websleuth’s Hive Mind think about the use/disposition of the spa chemicals and how they ended up in the car?

^^rsbm

Two things come to mind:

First, which I think is fairly significant, BM very early tells investigators that SM asked him on Saturday to take her bicycle out of her vehicle (RR cargo area).

IMO, the only purpose this served was to explain BM's prints on her bike. Reportedly, SM drove to her biking location and never ever biked from PP as her starting point. MM2's boyfriend said the same to investigators.

I think the empty spa chemical bottles on the floor of the RR could still be because they were headed to the community dumpster when SM next drove past. It could be as simple as BM leaving empties on the shelf, and this is how SM learned they needed "spa-stuff."

I don't think the spa was ever prepared for use on Sunday or Monday because BM knew there was not going to be any mother-daughter reunion or sleepover.

And if any spa chemicals were acquired days before 5/10/2020, I think BM had an alternate use for it to cover and/or conceal his crime. JMO

 

[Megnut]

^^rsbm

Two things come to mind:

First, which I think is fairly significant, BM very early tells investigators that SM asked him on Saturday to take her bicycle out of her vehicle (RR cargo area).

IMO, the only purpose this served was to explain BM's prints on her bike. Reportedly, SM drove to her biking location and never ever biked from PP as her starting point. MM2's boyfriend said the same to investigators.

I think the empty spa chemical bottles on the floor of the RR could still be because they were headed to the community dumpster when SM next drove past. It could be as simple as BM leaving empties on the shelf, and this is how SM learned they needed "spa-stuff."

I don't think the spa was ever prepared for use on Sunday or Monday because BM knew there was not going to be any mother-daughter reunion or sleepover.

And if any spa chemicals were acquired days before 5/10/2020, I think BM had an alternate use for it to cover and/or conceal his crime. JMO

I agree.

Additionally, as Barry was idling at the hotel, I think he realized he may have left the ONLY fingerprints on Suzanne's bike hence the unsolicted presplanation about having removed it from Suzanne's vehicle, at her behest. As if. Why would she want her bike removed on Saturday? The only place she would've been likely to go -- that is, if she's weren't dead -- would've been her predictable  afternoon bike ride, and not in the neighborhood. The trail she'd drive to.

Geez, Barry.

Notable IMO that he doubled down on site, making sure he got his grubby paws all over Suzanne's bike in plain sight of LE. Look over here, see me touching her bike? Y'all remember that later when her wiped down bike has virtually no DNA/prints on it but mine.

Lountain mine.

GEEZ, BARRY.

JMO

 

[justtrish]

I can't rule this out.

The dogs alerting in the morning, however, makes me think Barry was in the presence of cadaverine which means a body that had been dead about 12 hours already. That means 2-3am....

I have wondered if all that showering had less to do with guilt or DNA and more to do with diffusing an overpowering smell. Spa chemicals would do that.

So, could he have gone to the spa store late day on Saturday? Didn't MG say she was irritated that Barry cut their full day of work (to go hiking or biking to make the wife happy) but heard he'd been in town shopping instead?

I'm with the posters who agree that Suzanne did not leave her car the way it was found. Someone with a proclivity for messmaking made a mess of it IMO.

A trial should clear all of this up nicely.

JMO

Editing to note that @Megnut clarified after my post that the dogs did NOT hit on the water.. so disregard that part!

So just thinking out loud here.. but

I suspect the reason the dogs hit on the creek area and his bobcat is because Barry touched Suzanne long after she was gone like when he was burying her. Then he returns and he's trying to "wash" up and maybe he thinks the water is a good place to do so before he goes into the house. I'm sure he couldn't resist touching his precious bobcat either because we know he's obsessed with that thing.

I'm seeing conflicting things on the cadaver dogs abilities, but some suggest even 3 hours after death.. If she was dead by 3pm, then if he was burying her at 7-8 and home by 9 he could have been in contact with her and that scent the dogs hit on might have been HIM placing that scent there by trying to wash in the water and fidget with his bobcat. Maybe it wasn't her body being in those locations, but him with her scent on him that did it.

I even wonder if he took those spa chemicals with him to pour on him thinking it would get rid of any scent?

Interesting that Barry was friends with the spa people. I doubt they'd lie to protect him, but I'm sure they could be confused on days/times or as someone previously said, he had an open invitation weather the store was open or closed so maybe he was there after closing time.

 

[justtrish]

^^rsbm

Too many years have passed but I vaguely recall that the retail store closed early on Saturday's but the repair shop could be open where BM would be welcome to pop in and converse with the owner.

I also want to say there was a text or call log evidence of BM contacting somebody at the Stove and Spa repair shop-- asking them to come service his spa.

More recently, from allegations filed against DA Stanley, she allegedly texted somebody that the spa at Puma Path had not been operable for sometime.

Could it be that BM never purchased the Spa Chemicals but they were instead delivered by the repairman?

I think there was even a scenario floating around that the diagnostic on the spa was that the repair estimate was more than BM wanted to invest in their aging model and no repair completed.

MOO

What's so odd about the spa being down for some time is Suzanne texted him to get spa chemicals. Something seems so off with that text and I don't know what it is. Then the fact the empty bottles are in her car too.. if it wasn't working then why the need for the chemicals and why such a need that she wanted him to stop and get them. IF they couldn't use them, then why?

 

[justtrish]

Building on recent posts, here are some thoughts for discussion that relate to Suzanne’s bike stuff and 2 or 3 empty spa chemical bottles being found, (possibly tossed rather haphazardly) in the front of Suzanne’s car.

Assessing certain evidence in this case depends heavily on whether the murder was carefully planned or a crime of passion. If Mr. Morphew planned the killing at least a couple days in advance, then there would be more time to determine how to eliminate evidence, stage the crime scene, dispose of the body and plant “fake” evidence.

If Suzanne’s killing was a second-degree crime of passion (or first-degree with a small amount of pre-planning), I would expect a much more haphazard attempt at staging and to a more limited degree (due to time constraints).

For various reasons I’m thinking Mr. Morphew made the decision to kill his wife without a great deal of planning. It may have been planned to an extent that would qualify as first-degree murder but not enough to where he didn’t have to scramble to fake a crime scene, ditch evidence, and hastily dispose of the body. I would submit that the bike crash/abduction staging alone establishes little aforethought. Leaving her biking gloves and shorts in the master closet (Page 5 of Arrest Affidavit) and her shades/camelback/ID in her car when the bike and helmet are down the road a mile or two indicates a last minute, very poorly thought-out plan to establish an alternative theory for the murder (likely conceived while Mr. Morphew was perspiring pure adrenaline).

And the empty spa chemical bottles scattered on the floor of her car also seems a bit off. Ignoring why they weren’t in the trash/recycling, it is inconsistent with the statements of DA Stanley; who when asked if the killing took place in the hot tub, said that the tub looked like it had not been used “in a long time”. If the contents of the empty bottles had been used to prepare the hot tub for use on Saturday it would include turning the tub on, bringing it up to temperature and circulating the chemicals (and likely general cleaning).

So, things that obviously would have to be part of the staged bike ride, and the empty spa bottles (the contents of which were used for something other than the spa) are found together in her car. Meanwhile, other necessary bike ride items (gloves and shorts) are in a different location (though in fairness, she no doubt had multiple pairs of riding shorts). This I believe is a conundrum, the response to which could have significant implications to the commitment of this crime.

One other element is the inconsistency of the “morning bike ride”. Mr. Morphew offered without prompting that, "Well, she's ridin' her bike but I'm a little concerned, because I think she said she was gonna take a morning ride". However, others (who I would argue have far lesser motivation to misrepresent) said she normally/regularly road in the afternoon (per Mallory Morphew, Page 6 of AA) or evening (per Libler, Page 16 of AA).

So, on the day she disappears, when the 9AM temperature was in the low-mid-40s, she deviates from her apparently well-known routine and takes off without shades, gloves, pack, snacks, or ID.
Since only Mr. Morphew would have a reason to stage the bike and helmet far from their home, I’d say it’s clear that his bit of fakery was hatched from a frantic mind (one that already suffered from a lack of certain critical thinking resources). But what does Websleuth’s Hive Mind think about the use/disposition of the spa chemicals and how they ended up in the car?

Two side notes:

1. Suzanne’s biking pack looks very similar to the Camelbak Rogue Light (in Ibiza Blue, below), which is a very popular model. Notably, the Rogue has storage space for phones, keys, wallets, snack packages, like those shown in the picture of her Range Rover, etc. and a stretch overflow pocket for a light layer like a windbreaker.
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2. Sodium hypochlorite, a common spa sanitizer, destroys DNA and is used in DNA labs for decontamination. If it was used, its concentration would be about 1/10th of that of bleach and lingering odors far less likely.

Interesting on the chemicals being used in DNA labs! Wow maybe he did use them for that reason.

Another thing with this particular day is it's Mother's Day and a Sunday. She didn't attend church online, which she normally did in the mornings so a bike ride seems even more unlikely. Then she missed her best friend's daughters wedding online. I doubt she ever intended to bike ride that day. I recall Barry telling LE that he took the bike out of her car because she asked him too on Saturday. He was giving them a reason why his fingerprints might be on that bike. He was such a helpful husband (YEAH RIGHT! ugh).

 

[Megnut]

So just thinking out loud here.. but

I suspect the reason the dogs hit on the creek area and his bobcat is because Barry touched Suzanne long after she was gone like when he was burying her. Then he returns and he's trying to "wash" up and maybe he thinks the water is a good place to do so before he goes into the house. I'm sure he couldn't resist touching his precious bobcat either because we know he's obsessed with that thing.

I'm seeing conflicting things on the cadaver dogs abilities, but some suggest even 3 hours after death.. If she was dead by 3pm, then if he was burying her at 7-8 and home by 9 he could have been in contact with her and that scent the dogs hit on might have been HIM placing that scent there by trying to wash in the water and fidget with his bobcat. Maybe it wasn't her body being in those locations, but him with her scent on him that did it.

I even wonder if he took those spa chemicals with him to pour on him thinking it would get rid of any scent?

Interesting that Barry was friends with the spa people. I doubt they'd lie to protect him, but I'm sure they could be confused on days/times or as someone previously said, he had an open invitation weather the store was open or closed so maybe he was there after closing time.

rbbm

IMPORTANT point of clarification:

IIRC the dogs alerted on the trailer gravel, on the bobcat bucket and verily laid down in the cab....

But there was NO alert near the creek!!! IE spun nonsense out of nothing! A tracking dog was brought in, tracked nothing -- such a non event no real report was generated.

I would buy that dog a steak dinner -- with his very own plate -- if we could go back in time -- if it shat square on Barry's feet.

JMO

 

[justtrish]

rbbm

IMPORTANT point of clarification:

IIRC the dogs alerted on the trailer gravel, on the bobcat bucket and verily laid down in the cab....

But there was NO alert near the creek!!! IE spun nonsense out of nothing! A tracking dog was brought in, tracked nothing -- such a non event no real report was generated.

I would buy that dog a steak dinner -- with his very own plate -- if we could go back in time -- if it shat square on Barry's feet.

JMO

Thank you for clarifying that!! I don't think I knew this! I was under the impression the dog went to the water, but I can also see the scenario that Barry's entourage fabricates something out of nothing.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

What's so odd about the spa being down for some time is Suzanne texted him to get spa chemicals. Something seems so off with that text and I don't know what it is. Then the fact the empty bottles are in her car too.. if it wasn't working then why the need for the chemicals and why such a need that she wanted him to stop and get them. IF they couldn't use them, then why?

When was the text about "getting spa stuff"? Someone suggested maybe it was BM using SM's phone to make a fake request? But he didn't have access to her phone until after 2-3pm on Saturday, right?

One thing that's odd to me about it, if it WAS Suzanne, is that she was focused on leaving the marriage -- soaking in the hot tub, especially if it hadn't been used recently, would not be a high priority for her.

The only likely exception to this I can think of, is if she wanted the hot tub working for the girls when they returned from their trip.

If it was actually not working, ie malfunctioning, then either she thought it was about to be repaired, or BM sent that text as a part of his attempted alibi.

MOO

 

[mrjitty]

I wonder if the empty bottles were there to remind SM what to buy. I sometimes do that.

 

[Diddian]

I agree.

Additionally, as Barry was idling at the hotel, I think he realized he may have left the ONLY fingerprints on Suzanne's bike hence the unsolicted presplanation about having removed it from Suzanne's vehicle, at her behest. As if. Why would she want her bike removed on Saturday? The only place she would've been likely to go -- that is, if she's weren't dead -- would've been her predictable  afternoon bike ride, and not in the neighborhood. The trail she'd drive to.

Geez, Barry.

Notable IMO that he doubled down on site, making sure he got his grubby paws all over Suzanne's bike in plain sight of LE. Look over here, see me touching her bike? Y'all remember that later when her wiped down bike has virtually no DNA/prints on it but mine.

Lountain mine.

GEEZ, BARRY.

JMO

Asking BM to remove her bike from the RR makes absolutely no sense to me.

SM regularly drove to where she began biking and she'd obviously remove her own bike from her vehicle's cargo area each time she did so. Why in the world would she ask BM - who she'd recently texted "we're done..." - to do it this one time that she supposedly decided to bike from home instead?

The woman was announcing her own independence from him. The last thing someone in that position would do is ask the husband she was now done with to do a favor she ordinarily didn't.

 

[FromGermany1]

I wonder if the empty bottles were there to remind SM what to buy. I sometimes do that.

If the texts were no fake, HE should have bought it (order from SM).

 

[FromGermany1]

When was the text about "getting spa stuff"? Someone suggested maybe it was BM using SM's phone to make a fake request? But he didn't have access to her phone until after 2-3pm on Saturday, right?

One thing that's odd to me about it, if it WAS Suzanne, is that she was focused on leaving the marriage -- soaking in the hot tub, especially if it hadn't been used recently, would not be a high priority for her.

The only likely exception to this I can think of, is if she wanted the hot tub working for the girls when they returned from their trip.

If it was actually not working, ie malfunctioning, then either she thought it was about to be repaired, or BM sent that text as a part of his attempted alibi.

MOO

If I had fear to be alone with him, I wouldn't have thought about using the hot tub, never ever! <modsnip> Dangerous terrain all together. MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

Thank you for clarifying that!! I don't think I knew this! I was under the impression the dog went to the water, but I can also see the scenario that Barry's entourage fabricates something out of nothing.

Long before the thunderstorm Iris came into the play, I had heard of scents, leading the dogs also to the river bank, which is known to me as the passage, where old, dead turkeys were assumed to be found by BM. Or am I confusing everything?