Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #59 *ARREST*

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  • #361
Not a clue.
I don't see anything all that powerful about it.
I see Barry laying the dirt like an idiot, trying to leave some sort of impression that is entirely fake.
Pretty much what I've thought since the first time CM tweeted the pic ages ago.

jmo
Unless that picture is indicative of Suzanne's location, I'm not sure how it's relevant to anything?
 
  • #362
There is probable cause for each of his charges.

In light of that, what DOES this photo tell us?

He did it for a reason.

To shape the narrative.

But in what way?

Fake grief, poorly executed?

If he exited a vehicle, it wasn't as if that spot was The Spot -- they could've driven beyond....

Did his performance result in turning the car around? Bereft Barry needs to return to his chaise, with his case of the vapors? Where were they headed TO????? Was Barry able to redirect?

Was his dramatic body plant for the benefit of the searcher who was with him?

Was it a desperate LOOK HERE and NOT THERE? What lies beyond the scope of the photo that Barry didn't want the searcher to see?

Or.... was there conversation? Was Barry about to blow a gasket and did a barfbag 'Pull over now!' Just instead of vomit he was internally puking anger?

Was it just too much time away from his precious Bobcat and he was overcome with real emotion?

Why'd you do that, Barry? Help us to understand you.

How's cell life treating you? Good, solid surface for champion pushups so that's a win.

Everything else -- pure and devastating loss.

JMO
Borrowing from @Warwick7
BAM!
 
  • #363
This pic was taken by one of Andy's friends from Indiana - when they came out to Colorado right after Suzanne went "missing" . The guys broke into search parties to look for Suzanne.

Andy's friend was with Barry. They were driving up the back side of the mountain when Barry stopped - got out and said he needed to look over a bluff. Then Barry instead laid on his back in the middle of a field. Andy's friend found it odd so he took a pic of it. IMO
The link is from PE - Chris was talking to Andy a little after 19 minutes in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkQsQL1gkco

I seem to recall some discussion that this pic took place near Gunnison. Does that sound right?

I get the feeling it’s from someplace much closer to the PP home. If it was taken by one of AM’s friends shortly after SM went missing, there would be so much ground to cover locally before branching out to a place like Gunnison.

Knowing the exact location of this pic would be awesome.

Also, I get the feeling the pic was taken because BM’s act was so fake and unbelievable. Like the whole lead up of what BM was doing was so absurd that the friend thought they had to take a picture of it. And by the time the phone camera was out, BM laying down was all that was left. BM doesn’t seem capable of expressing genuine emotions, so I’m sure his over dramatic version of being distraught was a site to behold. I wish there was a video of what he did before the pic was taken.

Also, this pic would have been taken before the 27 second ‘oh Suzanne plea’ right? So odd to have this overly dramatic reaction, then wait a week+ to post that video.
 
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  • #364
I can think of 3 things off the top of my head.

"Working with domestic abuse meetings"
"I'm afraid this is domestic abuse" (said by brother)
"She said she was scared" (said by sister)

And as he is charged with her murder, that alone is domestic abuse (domestic violence). imo
BAM!!
 
  • #365
I agree Stanley has her hands full. The worst parts of this case seem to be circumstantial and LEO seems to be bolstering a weak case by adding the other ancillary charges. If Stanley had a strong case there would be no firearms or influencing public official charges.
We don't know what evidence they have. We haven't read the AA and we haven't been to trial yet.
 
  • #366
As a sister 15 yrs older than Suzanne, I’m sure there was a “motherly connection” as well as sisterhood.
RSBM
Suzanne and Melinda share the same birthday April 30th. Melinda says Suzanne was her birthday gift on her 15th birthday.
 
  • #367
I seem to recall some discussion that this pic took place near Gunnison. Does that sound right?

I get the feeling it’s from someplace much closer to the PP home. If it was taken by one of AM’s friends shortly after SM went missing, there would be so much ground to cover locally before branching out to a place like Gunnison.

Knowing the exact location of this pic would be awesome.

Also, I get the feeling the pic was taken because BM’s act was so fake and unbelievable. Like the whole lead up of what BM was doing was so absurd that the friend thought they had to take a picture of it. And by the time the phone camera was out, BM laying down was all that was left. BM doesn’t seem capable of expressing genuine emotions, so I’m sure his over dramatic version of being distraught was a site to behold. I wish there was a video of what he did before the pic was taken.
I also recall the location was allegedly near Gunnison. I think somebody mapped it on the technology that was being used by Profiling Evil during the search. MOO
 
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DBM Question answered
 
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  • #369
First post. Thanks to posters past and present for educating me about this case! Whether I agree or disagree, your posts shed light on the issues and make me think.

Since the public defender has not withdrawn from BM's case, I believe Eytan-Neilsen was hired by the PD, not BM. This is done in murder cases because regular PD staff already have more cases than they can handle and they can't be spared to focus on the professional responsibilities and sheer workload of defending BM. I believe the choice of attorneys was based solely on the E-N firm's track record as defense counsel and their willingness to accept the PD's pay rate. It doesn't hurt that the attorneys are former PDs.

The PD only represents indigent clients. BM would not be eligible if he had control over the proceeds of last year's real estate sales. If he has attempted to hide those assets, the continuing investigation should be able to find out and add this to the story as evidence of his motive.

But there may be other reasons BM can legitimately claim to be indigent.

A poster on an earlier thread pointed out that the proceeds of the real estate sales are not BM's to spend - he is accountable to the court to manage that money in SM's best interest. If the real estate was owned in joint tenancy, her interest is not limited to half the proceeds. Both parties own 100% of the property held in that form, and although BM as an individual has an identical interest, IMO BM as conservator owes a duty to SM, as the protected person, to conserve it all for her. He can't spend it on personal expenses like attorney fees.

I speculate that SM's family has intervened or threatened to intervene in the guardian/conservator cases to get an accounting of his stewardship of the money and now especially, to have him removed for cause as the conservator. The judges in those cases can take judicial notice of the filings in his criminal case, the possibility that he will be ineligible to inherit from his victim, and the fact that he is unable to function fully as guardian/conservator because he is in jail, ineligible for bond.

This money is unavailable to him as a practical matter. He has probably spent whatever cash he could legitimately spend. His business probably owns his truck, trailer, Bobcat, and other equipment - but it's probably bankrupt now.

So, he gets the public defender and whoever that office assigns to his case. He may have been consulted, but if there was any strategy in selecting women to represent him, it was the public defender's strategy not BM's.

All MOO, of course.
 
  • #370
BBM:
"Where's Barry?

Little is known about what efforts Barry is taking. It is reported online that he does take a friend to an area near Crested Butte where he collapses on the ground uttering something about Suzanne."

Profiling Evil posted that the photo that was taken during the initial searches was at Crested Butte; which is closer to the PP home.
Scroll down about 2/3 of the way down the page there is a topo map showing proximity of location to home.

Suzanne Moorman Morphew • Arrest Made!
 
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  • #372
I believe all the charges filed with the murder charge are related to the murder charge and have to be, in order to be companion charges. There are two reasons for this. First, if the DA doesn't file them now and they are part of the story, they will be barred later as a matter of procedure. Second, this is a circumstantial, no body case and the defense will try to exclude evidence on the grounds of relevance. Adding these charges strengthens the DA's argument that the evidence they want to bring in is relevant to the charges in the case.

All MOO.
 
  • #373
I seem to recall some discussion that this pic took place near Gunnison. Does that sound right?

I get the feeling it’s from someplace much closer to the PP home. If it was taken by one of AM’s friends shortly after SM went missing, there would be so much ground to cover locally before branching out to a place like Gunnison.

Knowing the exact location of this pic would be awesome.

Also, I get the feeling the pic was taken because BM’s act was so fake and unbelievable. Like the whole lead up of what BM was doing was so absurd that the friend thought they had to take a picture of it. And by the time the phone camera was out, BM laying down was all that was left. BM doesn’t seem capable of expressing genuine emotions, so I’m sure his over dramatic version of being distraught was a site to behold. I wish there was a video of what he did before the pic was taken.

Also, this pic would have been taken before the 27 second ‘oh Suzanne plea’ right? So odd to have this overly dramatic reaction, then wait a week+ to post that video.
@Cindizzi -Post#712 CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #29

I could be wrong, but I think there are 2 places where BM has reportedly laid on the ground. When AM said a fellow searcher relayed that info to AM, IMO they were in hiking distance of the home or the “bike found” location.JMO

Crested Butte is 95 miles from Salida.
The Crested Butte reference is from the PE website quoted here :CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #27"
 
  • #374
First post. Thanks to posters past and present for educating me about this case! Whether I agree or disagree, your posts shed light on the issues and make me think.

Since the public defender has not withdrawn from BM's case, I believe Eytan-Neilsen was hired by the PD, not BM. This is done in murder cases because regular PD staff already have more cases than they can handle and they can't be spared to focus on the professional responsibilities and sheer workload of defending BM. I believe the choice of attorneys was based solely on the E-N firm's track record as defense counsel and their willingness to accept the PD's pay rate. It doesn't hurt that the attorneys are former PDs.

The PD only represents indigent clients. BM would not be eligible if he had control over the proceeds of last year's real estate sales. If he has attempted to hide those assets, the continuing investigation should be able to find out and add this to the story as evidence of his motive.

But there may be other reasons BM can legitimately claim to be indigent.

A poster on an earlier thread pointed out that the proceeds of the real estate sales are not BM's to spend - he is accountable to the court to manage that money in SM's best interest. If the real estate was owned in joint tenancy, her interest is not limited to half the proceeds. Both parties own 100% of the property held in that form, and although BM as an individual has an identical interest, IMO BM as conservator owes a duty to SM, as the protected person, to conserve it all for her. He can't spend it on personal expenses like attorney fees.

I speculate that SM's family has intervened or threatened to intervene in the guardian/conservator cases to get an accounting of his stewardship of the money and now especially, to have him removed for cause as the conservator. The judges in those cases can take judicial notice of the filings in his criminal case, the possibility that he will be ineligible to inherit from his victim, and the fact that he is unable to function fully as guardian/conservator because he is in jail, ineligible for bond.

This money is unavailable to him as a practical matter. He has probably spent whatever cash he could legitimately spend. His business probably owns his truck, trailer, Bobcat, and other equipment - but it's probably bankrupt now.

So, he gets the public defender and whoever that office assigns to his case. He may have been consulted, but if there was any strategy in selecting women to represent him, it was the public defender's strategy not BM's.

All MOO, of course.
The Public Defender did withdraw. MK of Profiling Evil got it wrong and then corrected himself the next day.

EBM to add the link where MK explains that he got it wrong. At 3:00

 

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  • #375
There is probable cause for each of his charges.

In light of that, what DOES this photo tell us?

He did it for a reason.

To shape the narrative.

But in what way?

Fake grief, poorly executed?

If he exited a vehicle, it wasn't as if that spot was The Spot -- they could've driven beyond....

Did his performance result in turning the car around? Bereft Barry needs to return to his chaise, with his case of the vapors? Where were they headed TO????? Was Barry able to redirect?

Was his dramatic body plant for the benefit of the searcher who was with him?

Was it a desperate LOOK HERE and NOT THERE? What lies beyond the scope of the photo that Barry didn't want the searcher to see?

Or.... was there conversation? Was Barry about to blow a gasket and did a barfbag 'Pull over now!' Just instead of vomit he was internally puking anger?

Was it just too much time away from his precious Bobcat and he was overcome with real emotion?

Why'd you do that, Barry? Help us to understand you.

How's cell life treating you? Good, solid surface for champion pushups so that's a win.

Everything else -- pure and devastating loss.

JMO

Excellent post!
 
  • #376
Unless that picture is indicative of Suzanne's location, I'm not sure how it's relevant to anything?

I'm not sure either.
All I see is a phony, laying in the dirt.

Pure theater, IMO.
 
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  • #378
First post. Thanks to posters past and present for educating me about this case! Whether I agree or disagree, your posts shed light on the issues and make me think.

Since the public defender has not withdrawn from BM's case, I believe Eytan-Neilsen was hired by the PD, not BM. This is done in murder cases because regular PD staff already have more cases than they can handle and they can't be spared to focus on the professional responsibilities and sheer workload of defending BM. I believe the choice of attorneys was based solely on the E-N firm's track record as defense counsel and their willingness to accept the PD's pay rate. It doesn't hurt that the attorneys are former PDs.

The PD only represents indigent clients. BM would not be eligible if he had control over the proceeds of last year's real estate sales. If he has attempted to hide those assets, the continuing investigation should be able to find out and add this to the story as evidence of his motive.

But there may be other reasons BM can legitimately claim to be indigent.

A poster on an earlier thread pointed out that the proceeds of the real estate sales are not BM's to spend - he is accountable to the court to manage that money in SM's best interest. If the real estate was owned in joint tenancy, her interest is not limited to half the proceeds. Both parties own 100% of the property held in that form, and although BM as an individual has an identical interest, IMO BM as conservator owes a duty to SM, as the protected person, to conserve it all for her. He can't spend it on personal expenses like attorney fees.

I speculate that SM's family has intervened or threatened to intervene in the guardian/conservator cases to get an accounting of his stewardship of the money and now especially, to have him removed for cause as the conservator. The judges in those cases can take judicial notice of the filings in his criminal case, the possibility that he will be ineligible to inherit from his victim, and the fact that he is unable to function fully as guardian/conservator because he is in jail, ineligible for bond.

This money is unavailable to him as a practical matter. He has probably spent whatever cash he could legitimately spend. His business probably owns his truck, trailer, Bobcat, and other equipment - but it's probably bankrupt now.

So, he gets the public defender and whoever that office assigns to his case. He may have been consulted, but if there was any strategy in selecting women to represent him, it was the public defender's strategy not BM's.

All MOO, of course.
bbm
Thanks for this interesting and informative post and Welcome to Websleuths, @CGray123 !

Re. the lavender bolded : That is indeed going to be part of the AA, imo. hiding the money seized from the sale of properties held by himself and his now presumed deceased wife will point towards much of the motive !

Re. the green bolded : As his eldest daughter signed over the conservatorship due to Barry claiming his wife was "incapacitated" despite only being "missing" and possibly still alive, I wonder if the Moorman's could be successful in doing so ?

I agree with your speculation that Suzanne's family has tried to intervene so that no monies Barry has illegally acquired can be used to fund his defense !
What an insult to Suzanne's memory if he succeeds !
I wish the Moorman's continued comfort in their obvious grieving and remain thankful for their very public voice for Suzanne and pursuing justice for her.

Re. the orange bolded : Thanks -- I'd wondered about that, and (my own theory, here ;)) I had supposed Barry did indeed have a hand as to whom was selected for his defense.
Edited to add : Esp. if either of these PD's have defended men accused of domestic violence against their wives or partners, and won their case.

Assuming when the AA is released we'll have some definitive answers !
My Own Opinion.
 
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  • #379
Why didn't he dispose of the bobcat?
He thought if he changed out attachments there’d be no evidence relating to SM on the main body of the Bobcat.
 
  • #380
I believe the arrest affidavit will be tied up for quite a while as motions are considered.

First, the defense will want a chance to look closely at the evidence produced by searches or interviews and argue that any procedural errors require suppression of evidence by court order. Premature disclosure of evidence in the AA that is later suppressed would influence potential jurors unfairly, this argument goes. This will take a while.

Second, BM won't want gruesome or salacious allegations published before trial. He will argue that the intense public interest in this case will deprive him of an impartial jury pool - statewide - if such claims were made public before trial.

MOO.
 
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