Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #61 *ARREST*

[O.Incandenza]

I like CM, and I get information and law enforcement perspective from his podcast, but like others I am critical of some of his themes: (1) oversimplifying, disparaging, undermining, and otherwise misrepresenting the laws and processes that protect all of us from arbitrary government action; and (2) disparaging and misrepresenting the efforts of defense counsel as less than honest, devoid of integrity, a mere game doing whatever it takes to absolve their guilty client of responsibility.

I listen and appreciate, but with a critical ear that accounts for his biases and prejudices - which BTW are right out there for everyone to see.

I haven't watched any of the recent stuff, but he also doesn't appear to be very knowledgeable about the pre-trial legal maneuverings IMO. Lots of misinterpretation of the complaint, inaccurate speculation about how the defense attorneys are being paid, etc. That's not very surprising, pre-trial motions and the like aren't really part of a detective's job description. But I think people take his opinion more seriously because of his LE background, so I wish he'd put some more effort into being accurate and fact-checking some of his speculation in those areas.

For analysis of the motions, the Denver defense attorney that got linked a while ago seems much more informed. Which isn't surprising since that's his job.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I've never seen anything in the MSM that says she was actually using that bobcat, so is it just an assumption that she was because she said BM wanted her to rake out the beach "flat flat flat"?

I have never seen she was using motorized equipment. The area is relatively small that is being discussed and I, personally, am of the opinion she was using a "rake"....like the kind you get at the hardware store....and a rake is fairly commonly used in smallish landscaping work to spread and even out areas where dirt has been placed or is uneven. Seems alittle extreme to fire up a largish piece of equipment to rake that small sand area. But it is reasonable that Barry wanted it nicely raked, flat and clean for the owners. It was a weekend, so the probability was high that the owners would stop and check on the construction and work to date on their property.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

duplicate sorry.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I have no problem with the Judge's ruling to keep the AA sealed for now. Actually, I take it as a good sign for the State's case that they have so much information to support probable cause for an arrest.

I guess while we were griping and venting <me also> the local LE, FBI and CBI were busy after all.

I think the details are going to be gruesome like they were in the Kelsey Berreth case. I'm still not over that AA; some things can't be unread.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I have never seen she was using motorized equipment. The area is relatively small that is being discussed and I, personally, am of the opinion she was using a "rake"....like the kind you get at the hardware store....and a rake is fairly commonly used in smallish landscaping work to spread and even out areas where dirt has been placed or is uneven. Seems alittle extreme to fire up a largish piece of equipment to rake that small sand area. But it is reasonable that Barry wanted it nicely raked, flat and clean for the owners.

I've always just assumed she was using a landscape rake as well, since she never actually said anything about using anything other than a rake.

 

[Error505]

I think it's not out of the realm to say he is quite opinionated. People seem to take his commentary as "gospel" when quite a bit that he says is really his opinion and not objective at times. Disparaging...not really, he's entitled to broadcast his opinion....am I cautionary when he is referenced and quoted....absolutely. It helps to remember that he has spent his career in law enforcement so his bias shows often and frequently and his language can be quite inflammatory at times so I view it as op-ed or the view from that side of the courtroom.

But my original post you were questioning me about had absolutely nothing to do with CM. I’m a little more confused after your answer. I never referenced CM in my original post you quoted. Guess that’s where my confusion comes from. I made zero reference to CM, but you chose to interject his name into my post. Again, my post had nothing to do with CM, as far as I know, he’s never mentioned militia! I do have a few original thoughts on my own, although they may be far off-base.
Oh, well....
I’ll just leave it at that. MOO
EBM typo Queen

 

[EggSalad]

I've never seen anything in the MSM that says she was actually using that bobcat, so is it just an assumption that she was because she said BM wanted her to rake out the beach "flat flat flat"?

Yes that is correct. It’s an assumption based on standard landscaping terminology.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

A Venn diagram is when there is common overlap amongst multiple groups.

An example:
1. Men
2. People who like cheese
3. People who like football

So a man that likes cheese and football would be in the center of the Venn diagram because they overlap all three groups.

I was speculating that there could be a similar occurrence between BM’s local friends, the Chaffee County Patriots and LE. In that scenario the judge might be keeping the AA sealed as there is apparently a lot of testimony and it could put some of the witnesses in an unsafe position given those various groups.

Agreeing with you. But what/who are "Chaffee County Patriots"? TIA

 

[Skigh]

I've always just assumed she was using a landscape rake as well, since she never actually said anything about using anything other than a rake.

Perhaps BM gave her a task raking using a landscape rake because there was something about the bobcat which he did not want her to see or know about.

 

[EggSalad]

I have never seen she was using motorized equipment. The area is relatively small that is being discussed and I, personally, am of the opinion she was using a "rake"....like the kind you get at the hardware store....and a rake is fairly commonly used in smallish landscaping work to spread and even out areas where dirt has been placed or is uneven. Seems alittle extreme to fire up a largish piece of equipment to rake that small sand area. But it is reasonable that Barry wanted it nicely raked, flat and clean for the owners. It was a weekend, so the probability was high that the owners would stop and check on the construction and work to date on their property.

You could rake out that entire beach front in less than 5 mins with a bobcat. With a hand rake, it would take 30+ minutes.

The bobcat would definitely have been there for their work (moving earth, rocks, etc...), so I can’t imagine her not using it. If you’ve ever seen someone experienced using a bobcat, they can zip around and get a lot done in a short period of time.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I’m a little more confused after your answer. I never referenced CM in my original post you quoted. Guess that’s where my confusion comes from. I made zero reference to CM, but you chose to interject his opinions into my post. Oh, well....
I’ll leave it at that. MOO

It was a response to you asking me why I was so disparaging of C and I wanted to be clear I am not disparaging as I understand much of what he says is opinion or biased because of his former career.

 

[jakat]

A Venn diagram is when there is common overlap amongst multiple groups.

An example:
1. Men
2. People who like cheese
3. People who like football

So a man that likes cheese and football would be in the center of the Venn diagram because they overlap all three groups.

I was speculating that there could be a similar occurrence between BM’s local friends, the Chaffee County Patriots and LE. In that scenario the judge might be keeping the AA sealed as there is apparently a lot of testimony and it could put some of the witnesses in an unsafe position given those various groups.

There were a couple of posts about the militia at the time Adventures with Purpose were in Salida searching for Suzanne, but I've forgotten what those posts actually said. They were in Salida in October.

The guys from AWP sounded threatened and I assumed they not only left because of frozen ponds, but also because of feeling threatened. They told MK and CM (Profiling Evil) about people being on the other side of the river with guns watching them.

Chafee County Patriots. Are they similar to Qanon? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

What Exactly is the Purpose of Chaffee Patriots? - by Jan Wondra - Ark Valley Voice

Why do I have a constant nagging feeling the inmate is going to walk free??

 

[Error505]

Agreeing with you. But what/who are "Chaffee County Patriots"? TIA

A quick DuckDuckGo search gives some idea on Chaffee County Patriots and also, oddly enough, pulls up news articles on Suzanne’s Murder.
Chaffee County patriots at DuckDuckGo

 

[O.Incandenza]

The AA being 130 pages does not give me confidence in the prosecutor. With the judge taking into consideration the daughters tells me the defense may be winning him over on the sympathy side.

To be fair, the AA isn't written by the prosecutor. It's an affidavit from a member of LE that gets submitted to a judge. Pretty much the same as the affidavit that gets submitted in support of a search warrant. 129 pages does seem insane though, and it may have been drafted in coordination with the DA's office. Either way, doesn't really matter, it was enough to get probable cause. What they present at the preliminary hearing will be a much better indication of the DA's case.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

Thanks @swedeheart for posting PE's informative synopsis on Judge PM's decision to withhold the AA.

 

[EggSalad]

I've always just assumed she was using a landscape rake as well, since she never actually said anything about using anything other than a rake.

Hey, @Ontario Mom , I found the MG interview and a little more context to support the use of the bobcat.

‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

“Barry had worked on the beach site Friday evening,” Gentile said. “Saturday, he had asked me to clean it up and rake it out, because we were going to bring it out to level – so it would be a beach sand and not muck.”


So in that context, she is raking out the beach area so it could be leveled and not mucky (get the land above the water line). So what she was doing was flattening the ground in that area and removing loose debris and rocks, so they could then put sand on top of that area, aka leveling it up.

So at that point in time, the beach area was very much still a raw work in progress and would not be something that is worked on with a hand rake.

 

[EggSalad]

Now that I’m thinking through this, I wonder:

Did BM work Friday night because he was planning to call it a day early on Saturday but still wanted the job to be on schedule?

I was always curious if the Friday night beach site activity could be related to the murder but maybe it was just so BM would have more free time on Saturday to execute his plan. We’ve started to learn a lot about how BM spent his time on Saturday and most of it points towards premeditation.

 

[jakat]

I've always just assumed she was using a landscape rake as well, since she never actually said anything about using anything other than a rake.

I thought the same, she was using a landscape rake.

BobCat was going to be in the shop in a matter of a few hours or less that day to be fixed, outfitted with a different part. Both?

 

[DizzyB]

Now that I’m thinking through this, I wonder:

Did BM work Friday night because he was planning to call it a day early on Saturday but still wanted the job to be on schedule?

I was always curious if the Friday night beach site activity could be related to the murder but maybe it was just so BM would have more free time on Saturday to execute his plan. We’ve started to learn a lot about how BM spent his time on Saturday and most of it points towards premeditation.

Mother’s Day. Let’s work this out as if Barry had nothing to do with Suzanne’s murder. He left early in the morning to do what kind of prep work? What would he have been doing? He could not have worked on site to any degree, as Sunday work is not permitted. He could not have called suppliers, as they were closed. What necessitated hotel rooms for his workers, when I would imagine that they travelled distances early in the morning to get to job sites without hotel rooms? How many days work should the wall have entailed? Did Barry expect to be back that evening anyway, to spend the remainder of Mother’s Day with the wife and kids? If he didn’t know Suzanne was missing until 5 pm or after, what kind of work did he accomplish in the many hours he was prepping?

 

[jakat]

We get a thoroughly detailed explanation (by Chris) of the ruling to keep the affidavit sealed. The Morphew case is discussed in the first half of the show - starts at about 8 mins in. Highly recommend for anyone having trouble absorbing all the lawyer-speak. (Like moi. - Thank you very much, lawyers! Learning so much from you!)

Thank you, Swedeheart!