Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #63 *ARREST*

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  • #921
The prelim usually includes all the evidence within the AA, and quite a bit more. This one should be no different, with the exception of some of the questionable inclusions being left out.

We’ll learn exactly how law enforcement believes this went down.

This is scheduled to be a several day affair, so we won’t get everything on day one. We’ll get a lot though.

I’ve never looked forward to a preliminary hearing as much as this one.
RBBM
Heyyah MG, nice to see yah. Yeah, you and me both.
I already booked myself off work for 8/9 & 8/10, lol.
It’s been a long year’s wait for sure. Go get ‘em DA Stanley et al, you’ve got this!

Justice is coming dear Suzanne.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
  • #922
RBBM
Heyyah MG, nice to see yah. Yeah, you and me both.
I already booked myself off work for 8/9 & 8/10, lol.
It’s been a long year’s wait for sure. Go get ‘em DA Stanley et al, you’ve got this!

Justice is coming dear Suzanne.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
I’m actually wondering if those will wind up being the only two days, with the other dates maybe serving as placeholders in case something caused a delay, or if they did need more time.

I know there’s a lot of evidence, but 4 days seems a bit much.
 
  • #923
The betting here is BM’s team will waive the prelim.
 
  • #924
The betting here is BM’s team will waive the prelim.
Not a chance. I posted this a couple weeks ago.

In the Gannon Stauch case, his stepmother (accused of the murder), was representing herself briefly. Prior to that request being granted, she asked the judge to waive her preliminary hearing. This is what a legal expert had to say about that, and why it is an awful idea:

On Friday, Stauch asked about waiving her Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing, what does that tell you?


Loew: The fact that she tried to or that she waved her Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing, is just a red flag that she has no clue what she's doing. A Proof Evident, Presumption Great hearing is [where] the district attorney's office has to put on witnesses to show that the proof is evident, and the presumption is great that the defendant would be convicted. Now, in Colorado, there are no criminal depositions. So what this is, is a hearing that allows the defendant to cross-examine, and get impeachment information to be used later at trial. So, there's pretty much there is no benefit to waiving the Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing. Potentially, she could have been entitled to bond. So, if she waived the Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing, it is even a bigger red flag that she is completely lost.

Letecia Stauch will defend herself at murder trial, now what? - KRDO
 
  • #925
I’m actually wondering if those will wind up being the only two days, with the other dates maybe serving as placeholders in case something caused a delay, or if they did need more time.

I know there’s a lot of evidence, but 4 days seems a bit much.
Yes agree, I’ve had similar thoughts.
If BM is bound over for trial, which I personally think he will be, what are your thoughts on timeframe for trial to start? I was thinking maybe 6 months to a year, or at least sometime before end of next year, maybe? hopefully?

At any rate, barring a plea deal (which I personally don’t think will happen), buckling in for potential ‘nother year wait to see evil BM go to trial.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
  • #926
Yes agree, I’ve had similar thoughts.
If BM is bound over for trial, which I personally think he will be, what are your thoughts on timeframe for trial to start? I was thinking maybe 6 months to a year, or at least sometime before end of next year, maybe? hopefully?

At any rate, barring a plea deal (which I personally don’t think will happen), buckling in for potential ‘nother year wait to see evil BM go to trial.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
I’d say somewhere between a year and a year and a half.

I’m not sure how Covid will affect the schedule, or if there is a backlog at all, but I’m still going to take it into account.

The Frazee trial began about 10 months after his arrest, but the case was quite a bit more succinct than I think this one is destined to be.

Without a material witness, I expect there to be a lot more in regard to (evidence) quantity, which will slow the process down quite a bit.

I also think there will be a protracted battle to keep certain things from being introduced at trial.

Lots of evidence, lots of motions, lots of delays.
 
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  • #927
I’d say somewhere between a year and a year and a half.

I’m not sure how Covid will affect the schedule, or if there is a backlog at all, but I’m still going to take it into account.

The Frazee trial began about 10 months after his arrest, but the case was quite a bit more succinct than I think this one is destined to be.

Without a material witness, I expect there to be a lot more in regard to (evidence) quantity, which will slow the process down quite a bit.

I also think there will be a protracted battle to keep certain things from coming out.

Lots of evidence, lots of motions, lots of delays
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RBBM
Yup, exactly my thoughts too.
Thanks MG, always appreciate your perspective and great insight.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
  • #928
Personally, I don’t really mind the wait until trial. This was a crazy case, and we’ve spent over a year breaking down every little detail we know, and using that to form theories about what happened.

The fact of the matter is, we know next to nothing. What we think we do think we know, will either be proven false, or be greatly expanded upon.

We’re about to go from in information drought, to an information flood. The overwhelming majority of our questions will be answered in mere weeks, and those revelations will keep us occupied for a long time.

At some point, I’m sure we’re going to see both the AA in some form, and quite a few of those search warrants too.
 
  • #929
Personally, I don’t really mind the wait until trial. This was a crazy case, and we’ve spent over a year breaking down every little detail we know, and using that to form theories about what happened.

The fact of the matter is, we know next to nothing. What we think we do think we know, will either be proven false, or be greatly expanded upon.

We’re about to go from in information drought, to an information flood. The overwhelming majority of our questions will be answered in mere weeks, and those revelations will keep us occupied for a long time.

At some point, I’m sure we’re going to see both the AA in some form, and quite a few of those search warrants too.
Yes so true, there will be plenty to discuss after the Preliminary hearings to keep us occupied for awhile, and I’m willing to wait however long it takes to see ultimate justice served for sweet Suzanne.

In the meantime, BM isn’t going anywhere.
He’s locked up being told what to do, where to go and when. Having to obey someone’s else’s rules probably for first time in his life, must be absolutely stifling and infuriating him. Good. There’s a level of satisfaction knowing that, and knowing that the avid outdoorsman isn’t free to roam the mountains and do whatever he wants whenever he wants, that he’s on the inside under lock and key sitting in a tiny concrete cage- his new home hopefully for eternity.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #930
Personally, I don’t really mind the wait until trial. This was a crazy case, and we’ve spent over a year breaking down every little detail we know, and using that to form theories about what happened.

The fact of the matter is, we know next to nothing. What we think we do think we know, will either be proven false, or be greatly expanded upon.

We’re about to go from in information drought, to an information flood. The overwhelming majority of our questions will be answered in mere weeks, and those revelations will keep us occupied for a long time.

At some point, I’m sure we’re going to see both the AA in some form, and quite a few of those search warrants too.
This is why I follow your posts on WS.
 
  • #931
I’m actually wondering if those will wind up being the only two days, with the other dates maybe serving as placeholders in case something caused a delay, or if they did need more time.

I know there’s a lot of evidence, but 4 days seems a bit much.
There is the voter fraud charge that is separate and really shouldn't take a long time, but I, also, was somewhat curious about the 4 days. My best guess is the judge is anticipating alot of back and forth and more questioning by the defense in this preliminary perhaps in hopes of thwarting the proof positive presumption great?
 
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  • #932
I’d say somewhere between a year and a year and a half.

I’m not sure how Covid will affect the schedule, or if there is a backlog at all, but I’m still going to take it into account.

The Frazee trial began about 10 months after his arrest, but the case was quite a bit more succinct than I think this one is destined to be.

Without a material witness, I expect there to be a lot more in regard to (evidence) quantity, which will slow the process down quite a bit.

I also think there will be a protracted battle to keep certain things from being introduced at trial.

Lots of evidence, lots of motions, lots of delays.
I think waiting for trial is no problem because BM will be locked away the entire time. He will have time to dwell on what he did and how a cell will be his home for the remainder of his life. He is going nowhere.

eta: just noticed @fcavanaugh posted what I was thinking. :)
 
  • #933
Not a chance. I posted this a couple weeks ago.

In the Gannon Stauch case, his stepmother (accused of the murder), was representing herself briefly. Prior to that request being granted, she asked the judge to waive her preliminary hearing. This is what a legal expert had to say about that, and why it is an awful idea:

On Friday, Stauch asked about waiving her Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing, what does that tell you?


Loew: The fact that she tried to or that she waved her Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing, is just a red flag that she has no clue what she's doing. A Proof Evident, Presumption Great hearing is [where] the district attorney's office has to put on witnesses to show that the proof is evident, and the presumption is great that the defendant would be convicted. Now, in Colorado, there are no criminal depositions. So what this is, is a hearing that allows the defendant to cross-examine, and get impeachment information to be used later at trial. So, there's pretty much there is no benefit to waiving the Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing. Potentially, she could have been entitled to bond. So, if she waived the Proof Evident, Presumption Great Hearing, it is even a bigger red flag that she is completely lost.

Letecia Stauch will defend herself at murder trial, now what? - KRDO
Yes. Speaking of dumb criminals. This one gets the award.
 
  • #934
I think waiting for trial is no problem because BM will be locked away the entire time. He will have time to dwell on what he did and how a cell will be his home for the remainder of his life. He is going nowhere.

eta: just noticed @fcavanaugh posted what I was thinking. :)

Well we don't know that he will wait a trial in jail for certain. That will be up to the judge. But we will most likely know after the preliminary and any accompanying motions. It is not unprecedented in Colorado to release a person accused of first degree murder awaiting trial but if so the bond $$ will most likely be extremely high. But look at it objectively: they yank his passport and strap on an ankle monitor, he has family he is still supporting, he has no priors of any consequence or at least no one has found any, he's not a threat to society....I'm not taking any bets right now...in my mind it's a coin toss depending on what we learn next month.
 
  • #935
Ha, I'm watching 4 young adults raking flat, flat, flat our neighbors lakefront with landscaping rakes....reminded me of all the discussion about whether raking really meant raking like a person holding a rake or if a scrapper attachment was used and a machine. The frontage is really similar to the river house in Salida...only my neighbor's landscaper has 4 young ones there doing the labor.
 
  • #936
Well we don't know that he will wait a trial in jail for certain. That will be up to the judge. But we will most likely know after the preliminary and any accompanying motions. It is not unprecedented in Colorado to release a person accused of first degree murder awaiting trial but if so the bond $$ will most likely be extremely high. But look at it objectively: they yank his passport and strap on an ankle monitor, he has family he is still supporting, he has no priors of any consequence or at least no one has found any, he's not a threat to society....I'm not taking any bets right now...in my mind it's a coin toss depending on what we learn next month.
I appreciate your point of view. I go back to the Patrick Frazee and Leticia Stauch cases in Colorado. Indeed we have to wait for the preliminary hearing to know what the judge decides. If, as we expect, the prosecutor has a tremendous amount of evidence and possibly evidence of how Suzanne was killed, I do not believe there is any amount of money that will get him out on bail. We have to wait a few weeks and see.

An ankle monitor is of no value if BM decides to take the route Fotis Dulos took. He has no one to support, as his daughters can now support themselves and have family members to turn to.

And seriously, if BM wants to support his daughters, he should transfer all cash funds he has (half of it belonging to Suzanne anyway) to his daughters.

BM is all about BM, IMO.
 
  • #937
I appreciate your point of view. I go back to the Patrick Frazee and Leticia Stauch cases in Colorado. Indeed we have to wait for the preliminary hearing to know what the judge decides. If, as we expect, the prosecutor has a tremendous amount of evidence and possibly evidence of how Suzanne was killed, I do not believe there is any amount of money that will get him out on bail. We have to wait a few weeks and see.

An ankle monitor is of no value if BM decides to take the route Fotis Dulos took. He has no one to support, as his daughters can now support themselves and have family members to turn to.

And seriously, if BM wants to support his daughters, he should transfer all cash funds he has (half of it belonging to Suzanne anyway) to his daughters.

BM is all about BM, IMO.
But, we don't "know" what he did with the money. For all we know he could have stashed money somewhere legally tight for his daughters. We just don't know.
 
  • #938
Maybe the shocker is that there is an informant in this case…wouldn’t that be interesting. Right now with virtually no info I can’t say I think it is a “slam dunk”. If I were that omniscient I would be a billionaire.
I keep thinking about the woman employee of Barry. She may be in hiding, just waiting to testify. I can only hope.
 
  • #939
Great question Becky! MM quietly suggested during her video with CM “The Interview Room”, that BM had been unfaithful to SM back in Indiana. I won’t go as far as saying he planned SM’s murder before the move to CO, but I do think BM had thought about ending his marriage to SM & was very aware of his financial destruction a divorce would cause. But BM wouldn’t have allowed a divorce if she walked out with 10 cents. His ego wouldn’t allow it. BM “left” their marriage a looooong time ago. I’d bet he had thought about killing her while living in IN but push didn’t come to shove until CO. MOO
In no way do I think that Barry was ever planning on ending his marriage except for the way that he did end the marriage. It would have cost him way too much to divorce Suzanne.
 
  • #940
Much to BM's dismay, he has recently encountered three very strong women that will have great influence in determining his fate.

An aggressive and competent DA and two very accomplished female defense lawyers.

That can't be comfortable for Barry, having women deciding his fate...

All my rambling, JMO, MOO, etc.
LOL, I bet it really 'chaps his butt'.
 
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