Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #73 *ARREST*

[Hatch]

Precisely. That's what I was alluding to, about the forlorn widower thing.
Also won't appear as though he could physically do certain things, which he was capable of doing in May 2020.

I still think it's due to no steroids (to me, he had some typical steroid use features) but, even if that's not so, he'd be encouraged to look like a whimp. And he's probably not liking that.
But, defense gotta do what they can, to try to fool a jury.
jmoo

DBM ? Answered

 

[sunshine4040]

I’m sure we are going to hear the prosecution theory on this next week. Perhaps he was cleaning his truck or tools with chlorine, and it necessitated a change.

That wouldn’t account for so many changes though. Perhaps he was making a feeble attempt to conceal his identity or something.

Or get spruced up and go out on the town.
According to "me mate Dave" IMO

 

[bkgregg5]

Yes, it seems reasonable they would have some tranquilizer darts and a dart gun on hand ready in the chiefs vehicle. Prefilled darts would be too controlled for sitting ready in a firetruck for months even if inspected regularly.

I just can’t see this. My husband is a Battalion Chief with his own SUV. They don’t carry any weapons of any sort in their vehicles. The most any firefighter carries, regardless of rank, is Narcan and a bulletproof vest. Firefighters don’t carry weapons (unless you are with fire Marshall/investigator). Fireman (vol/career) also aren’t trained in shooting. I just can’t see a voly dept taking liability for it. And at the end of the day it always comes back to liability. Fire dept might be called in to help
Control wildlife, but it’s hard for me to imagine the are they ones administering the darts.

 

[NoSI]

Good evening All, this is final revision of the Day 1 write-up. I will let it be now. I added disclaimer that mods recommended. Thought it is a good idea and it eases my mind because i can't be 100% sure that i understood everything in court as it was said/intended.

Good night All!

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[DeDee]

From NoSI’s notes from the prelim:

Spy pen: “relevant” as per SAH. They listened to the files on the spy pen.
# Recording 1: Unintentional recording of radio when BM was driving F350. News from 2/3/20 on radio. BM also listened to Forensic Files episode were woman went missing while riding her bike.

Barry listened to the episode in February before Suzanne went missing in May? If there was ever any doubt about Premeditation, this seals it for me.

I don't believe in coincidences. It wasn't happenstance this particular episode was the one chosen by Barry unless he listened to this same radio station airing the Forensic Files frequently. In fact, I do believe he listened to crime stories because he was planning to murder his wife for a very long time.

He is sinister and demonic. #DeathPenalty

eta: JMOHOO

 

[bkgregg5]

I’m sure we are going to hear the prosecution theory on this next week. Perhaps he was cleaning his truck or tools with chlorine, and it necessitated a change.

That wouldn’t account for so many changes though. Perhaps he was making a feeble attempt to conceal his identity or something.

I agree completely. Makes me wonder if he thought by appearing to change his shirts, people would dismiss looking for him on video. Example “looking for a white male in blue T-shirt” only third time around he is wearing green. Amateurish moves to me. But then again he isn’t that smart to begin with.

 

[10ofRods]

I just can’t see this. My husband is a Battalion Chief. They don’t carry any weapons of any sort in their vehicles. The most any firefighter carries, regardless of rank, is Narcan and a bulletproof vest. Firefighters don’t carry weapons (unless you are with fire Marshall/investigator). Fireman (vol/career) also aren’t trained in shooting. I just can’t see a voly dept taking liability for it. And at the end of the day it always comes back to liability. Fire dept might be called in to help
Control wildlife, but it’s hard for me to imagine the are they ones administering the darts.

I don’t know where you live, but where I live, LE does not tranquilizer wildlife. Firemen do that (but not volunteer firemen). My hometown has volunteer firemen - and bears. There are specially trained firefighters (my college has classes in this) that handle issues related to wild land fires and to wild life. No volunteer gets access to the darts. The regular fire department (from 10 miles away) does that And the person who trains them is a friend of mine.

LE here used to just kill the wildlife, but there was so much public outcry that the task was transferred to park rangers and to firefighters.

At the stations where I live, darts are kept under lock and key. They are always on the truck during wild land maneuvers (including SAR and firefighting - but the SAR volunteers of course do not shoot the bears or lions).

I can’t see a volunteer person getting legal access to them, either - but the regular firefighters would have to have access, where I live.

It’s also possible that Barry got them in Indiana with his deer farmer license - I don’t know anything about wildlife management in Indiana. But I am familiar with CO and CA and some other western states. A bear was tranquillized in my county (by a special unit sent by a fire station) about a month ago.

I suppose it varies. But Barry put three darts into his trash pile, apparently still in the box. The cap to the fourth one was found in his dryer.

Where do you think he got them?

 

[Boxer]

I just can’t see this. My husband is a Battalion Chief with his own SUV. They don’t carry any weapons of any sort in their vehicles. The most any firefighter carries, regardless of rank, is Narcan and a bulletproof vest. Firefighters don’t carry weapons (unless you are with fire Marshall/investigator). Fireman (vol/career) also aren’t trained in shooting. I just can’t see a voly dept taking liability for it. And at the end of the day it always comes back to liability. Fire dept might be called in to help
Control wildlife, but it’s hard for me to imagine the are they ones administering the darts.

Agree. Wildlife should be the service called if needed.

 

[sunshine4040]

I don’t know where you live, but where I live, LE does not tranquilizer wildlife. Firemen do that (but not volunteer firemen). My hometown has volunteer firemen - and bears. There are specially trained firefighters (my college has classes in this) that handle issues related to wild land fires and to wild life. No volunteer gets access to the darts. The regular fire department (from 10 miles away) does that And the person who trains them is a friend of mine.

LE here used to just kill the wildlife, but there was so much public outcry that the task was transferred to park rangers and to firefighters.

At the stations where I live, darts are kept under lock and key. They are always on the truck during wild land maneuvers (including SAR and firefighting - but the SAR volunteers of course do not shoot the bears or lions).

I can’t see a volunteer person getting legal access to them, either - but the regular firefighters would have to have access, where I live.

It’s also possible that Barry got them in Indiana with his deer farmer license - I don’t know anything about wildlife management in Indiana. But I am familiar with CO and CA and some other western states. A bear was tranquillized in my county (by a special unit sent by a fire station) about a month ago.

I suppose it varies. But Barry put three darts into his trash pile, apparently still in the box. The cap to the fourth one was found in his dryer.

Where do you think he got them?

I doubt there has ever been a Coyote tranquilized and humanely relocated. JMO

 

[chart75]

Who wrote the "contact" list that was found inside the helmet, SM or BM? Do we know?

 

[sunshine4040]

Who wrote the "contact" list that was found inside the helmet, SM or BM? Do we know?

They have the Helmet. They could get a handwriting expert to determine this or a relative to say that yes this is her or his hand writing. But I do not know.
IMO

 

[StarrDetective]

Who wrote the "contact" list that was found inside the helmet, SM or BM? Do we know?

It’s believed that SM put her contact info inside her helmet after JL advised her to in case of an emergency.

 

[TKG]

Meth? Who knows. He was harried. He'd killed his wife and he's not the brightest bulb, sharpest tool in the shed.
Who else would've left her helmet where it could be found? It's just plain stupid.
BM thought he was leaving a crumb trail for idiots. Just like 'THE BIKE'.

BM is too proud for meth. We may hear of some white powder usage though. MOO IMO

 

[sunshine4040]

It’s believed that SM put her contact info inside her helmet after JL advised her to in case of an emergency.

This is weird. Didn't JL text her and say something like "You look good in your bike clothes" ? IMO

 

[24Brix]

I don’t know if we can decide where she was sunbathing unless someone here would like to research the position of the sun around 2:45 pm mt, on May 9th, 2020 on Puma Path in Maysville, CO. As we can see from these photos provided by @MassGuy, the hot tub can be in dark shadow at certain times of the day. In May, the sun can be quite warm even if the air temp is cool, but you could be downright chilly sitting in the shade in a swimsuit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they dragged the loungers around to get the best sun position on any given day/time.

Okay, here you go! I created this using the PhotoPills iPad app.

May 9th, 2020 @ PP

• Heavy Yellow line is sunrise.
• Heavy Orange line is sunset.
• Thin Orange line is 2:45pm MT.

The elevation of the sun was probably 60-few degrees, plus or minus — meaning cast shadows would be shorter than the buildings and trees are tall. (Assuming flat ground.)

It seems the house would not occlude an approach from the driveway like I was picturing that it would. So IMO either SM was sunning elsewhere, or she had a heads-up (went inside? covered up?), or BM did “sneak attack”. Or some combination? Hmmm…

I hope this image is legible after upload. If not, I’ll try to edit.

MOO.

 

[Bluebythec]

I just can’t see this. My husband is a Battalion Chief with his own SUV. They don’t carry any weapons of any sort in their vehicles. The most any firefighter carries, regardless of rank, is Narcan and a bulletproof vest. Firefighters don’t carry weapons (unless you are with fire Marshall/investigator). Fireman (vol/career) also aren’t trained in shooting. I just can’t see a voly dept taking liability for it. And at the end of the day it always comes back to liability. Fire dept might be called in to help
Control wildlife, but it’s hard for me to imagine the are they ones administering the darts.

I had posted this awhile back and it seems they do have them at some firehouses :

After hearing about the tranquilizer dart I wondered where he might have gotten a sedative to use with it. I wondered if maybe firefighters carried some sort of tranquilizing device when the fought wildfires to protect them against bears etc. In going down the google rabbit hole I came across this news article : Is Ketamine the New Police Weapon Against Black Lives? and within that article was this sentence: "In Colorado, 90 fire departments and emergency medical agencies can legally use ketamine to treat people who are agitated or aggressive." I wish there was a way to see if the firehouse that Barry belonged to was one of them!
Bluebythec, Aug 11, 2021Report#9

 

[OldCop]

Okay, here you go! I created this using the PhotoPills iPad app.

May 9th, 2020 @ PP

• Heavy Yellow line is sunrise.
• Heavy Orange line is sunset.
• Thin Orange line is 2:45pm MT.

The elevation of the sun was probably 60-few degrees, plus or minus — meaning cast shadows would be shorter than the buildings and trees are tall. (Assuming flat ground.)

It seems the house would not occlude an approach from the driveway like I was picturing that it would. So IMO either SM was sunning elsewhere, or she had a heads-up (went inside? covered up?), or BM did “sneak attack”. Or some combination? Hmmm…

I hope this image is legible after upload. If not, I’ll try to edit.

MOO.

Thanks, @24Brix, very interesting! I forgot that I actually have this app. Got it to try to set up Milky Way photos.

 

[sunshine4040]

I had posted this awhile back and it seems they do have them at some firehouses :

After hearing about the tranquilizer dart I wondered where he might have gotten a sedative to use with it. I wondered if maybe firefighters carried some sort of tranquilizing device when the fought wildfires to protect them against bears etc. In going down the google rabbit hole I came across this news article : Is Ketamine the New Police Weapon Against Black Lives? and within that article was this sentence: "In Colorado, 90 fire departments and emergency medical agencies can legally use ketamine to treat people who are agitated or aggressive." I wish there was a way to see if the firehouse that Barry belonged to was one of them!
Bluebythec, Aug 11, 2021Report#9

I'm not sure if there some a tranquiller in the dart or where it came from or if he spiked her wine, if he did, one suspect stands out Fentanyl. IMO

 

[DeDee]

Oh no... Is it already that time again? I so wish SM would be found, but I don't think she will ...MOO.

Barry once told a certain someone's former boyfriend that if (paraphrasing) he didn't behave in a particular way, then he'd be buried in the woods where no one could ever find him.

Barry premeditated his cold-hearted crime against his beautiful wife and, in so doing, the best laid plan was where he'd hide and secret her body from us. I do believe he spent copious amounts of time planning the criminal secretion.

The Investigators will continue searching for Suzanne but locating her is not contingent in order to prosecute and convict Barry of Murder 1.

William Wordsworth wrote:

What though the radiance which was once so bright.
Be now for ever taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour.
Of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower;
We will grieve not, rather find.
Strength in what remains behind...

 

[10ofRods]

Agree. Wildlife should be the service called if needed.

I just asked my wildlife management friend (a professor of wildlife management/exotic animal management) how this works. He says that National Forest Ranger staffs include people who are wildland fire certified and wildlife management certified. He says many people are both wildfire certified and wildlife management certified.

He also said that some of the darts they use in national forest firefighting can be lethal to humans and are very carefully stored and tracked.

Local firefighters work alongside national forest firefighting units where he lives (Northern California). They use the same NF facilities during wildfires and during wild fire training.

IIRC, one of the trainings that had been offered at the "Fire Camp" was wild land fire training. The program where my friend teaches offers a certificate in wildlife management in the summer wild land fire training program.

At the center where he works, they do get coyotes (and specifically want to get coyotes) so they can study them. They're sequencing coyote DNA throughout a wide region.

I had posted this awhile back and it seems they do have them at some firehouses :

After hearing about the tranquilizer dart I wondered where he might have gotten a sedative to use with it. I wondered if maybe firefighters carried some sort of tranquilizing device when the fought wildfires to protect them against bears etc. In going down the google rabbit hole I came across this news article : Is Ketamine the New Police Weapon Against Black Lives? and within that article was this sentence: "In Colorado, 90 fire departments and emergency medical agencies can legally use ketamine to treat people who are agitated or aggressive." I wish there was a way to see if the firehouse that Barry belonged to was one of them!
Bluebythec, Aug 11, 2021Report#9

That lines up with what my friend is saying. He says there was quite a backlash to ketamine being administered by LE. He says it's a different type of dart for humans and doesn't think there are any fire departments or EMT's authorized to use ketamine up where he works, but he pointed me to some articles about its use elsewhere. Most firefighters where I live are also EMT's, and apparently in the states that do allow use of ketamine against humans, it's the EMT's who administer it:

Ketamine Used to Subdue Dozens at Request of Minneapolis Police, Report Says (Published 2018)

The above article gives an overview of how ketamine affects its human subjects (the number of cases in Minnesota seems frighteningly high to me, and apparently EMT's are being ordered to do this...)

...Aaand we can add CO to the list of places that allows EMT's to use ketamine injections on humans...

A Black Man Landed in the ICU After Receiving Ketamine for a Seizure-Here's Why This Treatment Can Be Dangerous

Every single case I follow has some weird thing I'd never heard of before...I sure do wish we knew what the dosage on these particular darts might be (because EMT's would be carrying very different ones than the Wildlife Manager people).