Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #74 *ARREST*

[OldCop]

I confess to asking a question I already have an idea of the answer....But why would GD or TN agree to something this sketchy? Did they not know they were being played by Barry?

MOO, @Scootie98. GD and TN approached MG on Tuesday, only 2 days after SM disappeared. Everything was still really hot and fluid. At this time I think both men were big BM fanboys. TN was the spokesperson and setting up the . GD was using his 400 tours experience to set up searches. I’m sure BM was telling them how his workers were druggies and convicts and how LE was trying to frame him. I think it took until BM’s sad FB plea and the search of his jobsite in Salida, before they really started stepping back from public support of him.

 

[Scootie98]

MOO, @Scootie98. GD and TN approached MG on Tuesday, only 2 days after SM disappeared. Everything was still really hot and fluid. At this time I think both men were big BM fanboys. TN was the spokesperson and setting up the ***. GD was using his 400 tours experience to set up searches. I’m sure BM was telling them how his workers were druggies and convicts and how LE was trying to frame him. I think it took until BM’s sad FB plea and the search of his jobsite in Salida, before they really started stepping back from public support of him.

True enough....but if you were asked, by anyone, regardless of how close they were to you....to suggest to someone that they need not cooperate with LE....that would be a show stopper for me....red flags and sirens going off....GD in particular was a local....who likely knows the very local LE that MG "need not cooperate with"...probably has known them longer than he's known Barry. Yet, apparently, they faithfully carried his water. A head scratcher.

 

[10ofRods]

That was a common point of discussion. Some folks theorized that it wasn’t actually crime scene tape but tape strung by BM to keep people off his new landscaping. That also became a point of discussion; so many big, new rocks, dirt, and gravel.

Why does anyone need to be kept off rocks and gravel? I have never been able to see any new plants or ground cover. I find it very hard to accept that Barry would put up crime scene tape on his own property while running around making preparations to either kill or hide Suzanne. I find it hard to believe that the Bobcat wasn't on its trailer and hooked to his truck while he was working around Salida/Tradewinds/other places that week, as he was rarely without it. In fact, we know he had it on the trailer as late as Saturday, when he took it for the blade replacement.

This would require Barry to treat his own rock garden (dirt, gravel and rock) as a "protected area" (including the Bobcat) before LE arrived and before the neighbor walked over. He would have had to put that tape up in between about 2:45 pm on Saturday and 5 am Sunday. Makes absolutely no sense and LE would have asked him why. "Uh, because I'm protecting my big rocks?"

Nope, not buying that one.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Are the darts sold and kept separately from syringes containing the liquid tranquilizer? Would the needle also be packaged separately and placed on the dart manually?

I am trying to visualize how quickly a tranq dart would be assembled and used.

(Apologies if this has been covered already.)

 

[Boxer]

This is my first "trial-by-tweet" experience and so far ... not a fan. Too much gets lost in translation. A good argument for cameras in the courtroom.

Absolutely.
I havs seem SMs phone's last ping tweeted as 4:23, 4:22, and 4:21.
I am suspecting the D of some hand in confusing tweets.
For instance what editorial reason is there to convert "chipmunks" into "squirrels."
Thats not a difference of opinion, its inaccurate.
The testimony as it was given to the court is important.

 

[Boxer]

Are the darts sold and kept separately from the liquid tranquilizer? Would the needle also be packaged separately and placed on the dart manually?

I am trying to visualize how quickly a tranq dart would be assembled and used.

(Apologies if this has been covered already.)

There is a how to on YT.
30 seconds if your materials are assembled.

For Cap-Chur brand dart:

Supplies:
-Drug
-Dart (includes needle.)
-Trigger cap bead (plastic bead that slides up needle on impact and triggers the spring plunger inside the hypo dart.)
-.22 blank
-.22 Gun
-Or purpose-made dart gun or airgun

How for a .22:
-Fill the dart barrel with liquid drug.
-Screw on barrel top.
-Put cap bead on needle point.
-Put dart in gun
-Load a .22 blank
-Ready.

 

[steeltowngirl]

There is a how to on YT.
30 seconds if your materials are assembled.

Interesting. In can happen very quickly if they are pre-assembled. Which plays nicely in my mind with premeditation.

 

[DizzyB]

Can anybody provide a photo of a tranquilizer dart CAP (cap only), or a diagram/photo of the entire dart with the cap so that I can understand exactly what was found in the dryer trap/vent? I’ve looked at way too many darts and still am not absorbing it. Would they know right off the bat what it was?

 

[girlhasnoname]

I really want to know what time he called MG on Mother’s Day to change it all up, his first call of the day to her. Think we will hear about that on Monday? They have her phone data. I think it’s important.

Great question, I don't know how far the State is going to go into MG at the prelim. I agree it's important, and have said I think she'll play a more important role than we thought.

She turned her phone over, took notes, and spoke with LE 5 times allegedly. I'm so thankful she didn't feel bullied or pressured by BM and cooperated.

#Justice4Suzanne

 

[Auntie Cipation]

If SM went on rides with her car the bike may have been on her car. BM being a brute in a rush may have taken it off her car and picked it up to throw into the truck bed as he was in a hurry. He probably didn't have a clue the lock was on. moo

But haven't we learned that the bike found in the ravine was the "parts" bike and not her usual bike?

And if so, where is her regular bike? Unless it was at the shop for repair, BM must have hidden it somehow, since it wasn't in its usual place when the neighbor went looking.

Who else could or would spoof SM on Facebook? Maybe we need to think outside the box? I don't have an answer because I can't assign a motive to anyone else but the bright minds here might.

One other thought. Sometimes FB accounts get hacked by random spammers/hackers. Maybe we are trying to ID a hacker not a POI. Random does happen.
JMO

I do think it was BM on Saturday, but in case it turns out to have been on Friday, one thought that came to me is that perhaps BM had forbidden SM to have many male FB friends and she had finally decided not to allow him to control her in that way anymore.

Exactly. Somewhere earlier (I tried to find it) this same confusion occurred. Consensus then was SM was at home. BM sends her a selfie from the pizza place. SM forwards it to daughter(s). Along the lines of "whatcha doin tonight?".

Didn't we see this photo at some point? I seem to recall a photo of BM from quite a distance, meaning it couldn't be a selfie. Hope someone has it saved so we can assess.

That was a common point of discussion. Some folks theorized that it wasn’t actually crime scene tape but tape strung by BM to keep people off his new landscaping. That also became a point of discussion; so many big, new rocks, dirt, and gravel.

The tape was actually tied TO the Bobcat. It was clearly (to me at least) LE tape, but not protecting someone from touching the Bobcat, rather using the Bobcat as a part of the perimeter. The area that seemed to be protected was the rocky path along the creek side of the house. I remember thinking maybe there had been evidence found along that path, or even that they might have thought perhaps SM had been buried under one or more of the big boulders framing the path.

I also found this in my old old notes. It is one of @OldCop 's posts.

BBM

"Also, according to MG, BM calls them on Monday morning “crying” about SM being missing. He tells them to stay there and wait for materials for the job to be delivered. He never asked them to come and help search for his wife. We don’t know when or if there was another conversation between BM and his workers. MG says they sat around until Tuesday and they still hadn’t received the proper tools or machinery.

See red. Ah, so now we know how many nights the workers stayed at the hotel.

He was not at home with his sleeping wife at 5:00 a.m. He was on the road at 4:00 a.m. talking to MG.

What if he used SM's phone to call MG? Didn't her phone have an outgoing call at 3:56am? Or am I misremembering?

All MOO

 

[waldojabba]

Correct, there is a difference between being told she didn't have to turn over her phone, and being told not to turn over her phone.

According to MG herself she was advised "you have rights, you don't have to give CBI your phone" at the 5:05 mark here ‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

I sense we really have to look at the words in context.
When were they being said, who was saying them to who …and why - what was the body language, including facial expressions of all involved
What was the message that MG understood that they were trying to convey to her ?
Did she feel threatened or intimidated?
Iirc we learn from MG later that Barry fired her for turning her phone over to LE -
Are there dots to connect here?
Not that important in the overall scheme of things but once again, not everything boils down to black and white …
Just my thoughts

 

[Ontario Mom]

I do recall seeing a sitting area down by the river at Puma Path.
Imagine sitting there, hearing the water flow, watching the wild life that was drawn to the water. Shooting them.

I think there were trail cameras along the river.

What if the time BM was walking along the river that Saturday, he was checking his cameras.

Maybe some of them were aimed in towards the home and for some reason he wanted them turned away.

Maybe he made sure his cameras couldn't pick up any of his comings and goings.
Moo

I mentioned this a while back too. Either turned away, or turned toward the house.
Which is even worse if you let your imagination answer the why, on that one.
But then again, his co-workers told LS he checked those cams constantly so... who knows?

 

[Boxer]

Can anybody provide a photo of a tranquilizer dart CAP (cap only), or a diagram/photo of the entire dart with the cap so that I can understand exactly what was found in the dryer trap/vent? I’ve looked at way too many darts and still am not absorbing it. Would they know right off the bat what it was?

The FBI and CBI and CCSO forensics will know their weapons and their parts in detail.

Different brands look different.

 

[Puzzles8]

According to AM, the conversation re: all wedding stopped at 2:30 pm May 9, FB friend requests happened Saturday May 9 in the pm.

Tiff, you might be able to jog my memory. We had a new WSer join about the time when info was coming out about SMs Saturday. He was a verified person (wife & he lived in Alexandria IN area, former friends SM or BM). His wife had reported the friending requests via Facebook happening on Saturday evening, May 9. Anyone else remember the account I’m speaking of. For the life of me, his name escapes me. He hasn’t posted in quite some time. Moo

Hoosierfan72

 

[Ontario Mom]

I confess to asking a question I already have an idea of the answer....But why would GD or TN agree to something this sketchy? Did they not know they were being played by Barry?

I don't know either one of them but I can only imagine that

a.) neither one of them legitimately believed Barry had done anything to disappear Suzanne and possibly
b.) the "hush hush money" thing was said as a sarcastic type of joke - or - they're all somewhat likeminded and have the same negative attitude toward cooperating with LE - even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong. LOTS of people are like that, for various reasons.

I can only imagine news of Barry's arrest and the charges against him, was not the kind of news they ever hoped to hear.

jmo

 

[Ontario Mom]

I sense we really have to look at the words in context.
When were they being said, who was saying them to who …and why - what was the body language, including facial expressions of all involved
What was the message that MG understood that they were trying to convey to her ?
Did she feel threatened or intimidated?
Iirc we learn from MG later that Barry fired her for turning her phone over to LE -
Are there dots to connect here?
Not that important in the overall scheme of things but once again, not everything boils down to black and white …
Just my thoughts

All good points/questions. I never did get the impression from MG that she felt threatened or intimidated, and she never implied that she did. She just repeated what they said to her. Although, hearing MG explain it herself, would be rather interesting.

 

[Boxer]

Great question, I don't know how far the State is going to go into MG at the prelim. I agree it's important, and have said I think she'll play a more important role than we thought.

She turned her phone over, took notes, and spoke with LE 5 times allegedly. I'm so thankful she didn't feel bullied or pressured by BM and cooperated.

#Justice4Suzanne

Pretty straight arrow for a "meth-head." Hope she got a good job where ever she went.

 

[Diddian]

But haven't we learned that the bike found in the ravine was the "parts" bike and not her usual bike?

And if so, where is her regular bike? Unless it was at the shop for repair, BM must have hidden it somehow, since it wasn't in its usual place when the neighbor went looking.




I do think it was BM on Saturday, but in case it turns out to have been on Friday, one thought that came to me is that perhaps BM had forbidden SM to have many male FB friends and she had finally decided not to allow him to control her in that way anymore.



Didn't we see this photo at some point? I seem to recall a photo of BM from quite a distance, meaning it couldn't be a selfie. Hope someone has it saved so we can assess.



The tape was actually tied TO the Bobcat. It was clearly (to me at least) LE tape, but not protecting someone from touching the Bobcat, rather using the Bobcat as a part of the perimeter. The area that seemed to be protected was the rocky path along the creek side of the house. I remember thinking maybe there had been evidence found along that path, or even that they might have thought perhaps SM had been buried under one or more of the big boulders framing the path.



See red. Ah, so now we know how many nights the workers stayed at the hotel.



What if he used SM's phone to call MG? Didn't her phone have an outgoing call at 3:56am? Or am I misremembering?

All MOO

BBM. About the FB friending: I agree with you that it likely happened on Saturday and after BM caused SM's demise and disposed of her remains. I think it likely BM explored SM's phone and found her "Fifty reasons to leave your husband if his name is Barry Morphew" list. And, seeing that she included among those reasons that he had too many women friends on FB (she said he told her "it was good for business"), he decided he'd better make sure she also had plenty of male friends on FB so that when LE came calling or when the daughters somehow learned of SM's list, he could point out the irrationality of her worries about women FB friends, her having so many male FB friends and all.

It just seems to fit with his many attempts to control the narratives - to his neighbor when SM was non-responsive to attempts by the daughters to contact her ("is her bike missing?"), to his nephew and GD early on ("it's too soon," "LE really messed up the scene"), to his daughter (his putting her in the middle and making it look like Lauren was harassing her when in fact he was using his daughter as a shield), to LE, to Lauren (in response to her interviews with JP and MG - "JP was in prison for NINE YEARS" and she is a "methhead"), to Tyson Draper ("we're thinking a mountain lion may have taken her uphill" - taking care not to puncture her and walking upright, apparently, there being no blood or drag marks), and to the public (his 26-second plea on a wooded mountain by a river, his claims that AM's 700-plus person strong search was a publicity stunt).

 

[girlhasnoname]

MG did not feel safe in Salida, she moved. BM has a lot of young friends in the area.
When he speaks on the Draper video where he shows the bike area, you can see how he takes command of the space with young people and is the "expert" on matters, like a teacher or a supervisor.

Pretty straight arrow for a "meth-head." Hope she got a good job where ever she went.

Yes, MG did say she was scared of Barry <snipped & BBM)
“He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,” she said of that interaction. “I feel like if he was innocent, he would have talked to me. I worked with him every day for a long time.”

But Barry Morphew has questioned Gentile’s character in conversations he’s had with FOX21.

“She’s a meth head,” Barry said. “She’s mad at me because I fired her and don’t let her work for me anymore. She’s mad. So they’re not gonna say anything good about me.”

“I’m scared of Barry,” Gentile said. “I don’t want to see him again, ever again.”
‘I’m not the other woman’: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[SteelCity91]

Can anybody provide a photo of a tranquilizer dart CAP (cap only), or a diagram/photo of the entire dart with the cap so that I can understand exactly what was found in the dryer trap/vent? I’ve looked at way too many darts and still am not absorbing it. Would they know right off the bat what it was?

I wonder if they showed a picture of the dart cap in the lint trap in the court room during the preliminary hearing. @NoSI can you verify?