Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #11

[10ofRods]

Because he knows they are looking in his immediate direction. It makes him uncomfortable and he feels the need to direct blame elsewhere, like, directly at them. JMO

I think he's extremely anxious, maybe even panicked. He sounds like someone who has worked out a preliminary defense theory, with his attorney.

"I don't know what happened to her, but it's either a car ran her off the road and she drowned in a body of water, yet to be found OR it's a mountain lion OR it's an abductor. What else could it be? I do not know where she is!"

"The police screwed up any chance of finding her."

He's going for reasonable doubt.

Suzanne needs to be found.

 

[10ofRods]

Throwing out theories and seeing which one gains more support on social media?
It does seem awfully strange that a couple weeks ago he seemed sold on the idea she was being held for some amount of money.
Now, even though the CCSO made it perfectly clear they do not believe it was wild animal related, he's all on about wild animals.
Oh, and making sure folks know HE doesn't approve of the handling of the investigation.
Because, he probably has loads of experience in crime scene processing and evidence collection.
Ahem.

jmo

Yes. I agree. Since he is basically claiming that LE obliterated any possible mountain lion evidence by trampling, bringing in dogs, searching for humans and not lions, etc, he's now directly opposing LE and LE is opposing him.

I sure do hope LE has some evidence from the house (I doubt there's blood evidence), or from his digital footprint.

 

[Teche]

Great post! I so agree!

Here another article.
YouTuber who ‘secretly’ recorded video of Barry Morphew discussing wife’s disappearance says he believes Suzanne Morphew’s husband knew the camera was on

I like how the YouTube guy had to collect his thoughts and that he called the tip line at least once.

 

[Poedelini]

I find it odd that the GF$ begging page has only had 2 donations added in the last 2 days. Seems like people aren't really interested anymore. MOO

There is not alot of media attention either (not included the weird youtube rumor video's).

 

[10ofRods]

It was raining. If he took off his shirt he may have done so because it was soaking wet.

I think BM was using hyperbole and wasn't expecting his every word was going to be taken literally by a guy secretly using social media to play a game of "gotcha!"

JMO

If so, then his natural mode of speech prefers hyperbole, at least more than average. Thanks for the update on the weather. The part I saw he has his damp shirt back on. And it's not raining. But if it were raining earlier, then that explains the shirt being off.

He certainly seemed to want to interact with a person who is, apparently, a total stranger. And show him what happened.

 

[Fireflize]

Still an impossibly large area for a grid search, especially in that terrain. In fact, I cannot find any searches (for missing children or any others) that were a well-organized thorough (grid) search of 200 square miles.

That, plus the 400 "tours of duty" remark leave me thinking that BM is not careful about his speech, especially when it concerns numbers.

The number of people it would take to do a thorough search of 200 square miles would be enormous. They searched 4-5 square miles for Barbara Thomas in much less challenging terrain, had 40-80 people in grid formation daily, took 10 days. Some areas, of course, they searched twice. They had to bring in technical teams.

They would need technical teams to search every cave, well, mine, ravine and crevice near where Suzanne went missing.

I wonder what BM was doing at that exact spot. I haven't seen the full video, but I understand from reading here that he had apparently been wading or swimming. Is that correct?

I wondered about that too. And he was alone, if I understand correctly. Not in a search party. And he appeared somewhat upset. I wonder if he got upset when he was seen by the YouTube guy. It's nagging at me. Moo

 

[OzzieB]

Lets not forget when we watched Watts and his body language we all thought his arms being crossed, his swaying, his hugging himself were all huge red flags!!! Now we look at BM and his arms were wide open, he spoke with confidence, Tyson was in his space but Barry stood his ground.

 

[Poedelini]

Lets not forget when we watched Watts and his body language we all thought his arms being crossed, his swaying, his hugging himself were all huge red flags!!! Now we look at BM and his arms were wide open, he spoke with confidence, Tyson was in his space but Barry stood his ground.

True. It is good to hear different sides it keeps us on edge.

 

[MrX]

Those pictures that were just posted were very helpful. The creek and bridge are basically down the street from the house, and there are other houses around. The way it's all been described, it sounded like she was in a jungle and fell in a volcano. If there was anything there, they would have found it.

 

[Feistyomi]

Tried for multi quote. FAIL still Both of you make great points and the red caused an aha moment for me, thank you both!
I am biased, not toward BM, rather biased toward SM. In S.C. WE have memories of a family’s involvement with a serial killer. Shari Fay Smith. Abducted(murdered)from a rural road, in the process of getting the mail at the end of their long driveway.
Even more tragic is that Shari was not the original victim! The guy( no name a..hole) had actually been stalking her older sister. He knew Shari was not Dawn, but it was an
Opportunity he couldn’t resist. 2 wks later, he abducted and murdered a 9 yr old.
This case is quite a well known story inSC, not sure if it remains in the nation’s memory, especially with passage of time.
Red lines...random tidbits, THE bike, jammed brakes, remarkable resemblance,
Random abduction vs stalking, probabilities?
Could SM have been borrowing a bike?would the neighbor have been asked simply to count the bikes?
JMO, This would be even rarer than drifter abduction. It actually happens often in tv shows....
Humor... Due to Covid, I have been forced to watch OLDtv reruns, etc...I do this while multi tasking...WS omg...guesstimate it happens in at least 10 % of Murder She Wrote, as they had to repeat plots, I will try to set up a research record...
MOO, rarest of rarest, even true events repeat, opens up a whole new suspect pool.
I need BM to be innocent, I want to remember Suzanne not as just another women murdered by the person she loved.
It is about Suzanne!

 

[MyBelle]

A few things stood out to me when listening to BM's conversation with TD on youtube. This is subjective, and I know there will be people who don't see it the same as I do, but I thought these were worth pointing out. I've colored them red to discuss below. I've colored words blue which I consider to be 'normal' usage, in contrast.


BM: Let me tell you what happened. Um, and I do have a reward, $210,000 reward. Um, the bike was found at the bottom of the hill by that tree…

TD: So they found her bike just right against that tree down there?

BM: …we had cars over here well the sheriff let everybody drive through here covering all, messing up all the evidence, they were walking all over this area which if somebody abducted her they would have had foot tracks, they would have had fingerprints on the bike. They let 10 other people touch the bike.

BM: …so, I told my wife, I said listen the girls are gonna be home, they want to spend Mother’s Day with you, mind if I go [inaudible] that’s what we thought was gonna happen. The girls were running late so they texted her Happy Mother’s Day, she didn’t text back. So we went to, well they called my neighbors and said listen, it’s Mother’s Day, I’m a little worried and will you go check the house. And the neighbour went and checked the house, saw that her car was there but the bike was gone. She called me in Denver and said hey we’re just a little worried and I go well, I am too, why don’t we just call the police to be safe…

1. Not 'let me tell you what we think happened', but 'what happened'. This is impossible and it's sales talk.
2. the bike. I expected to hear 'her' bike here and in the last paragraph right after saying 'her car'. The fact he uses 'the' bike and never 'her' bike tells me he has distanced Suzanne from it. He is not imagining Suzanne on or with her bike. I would say there is a reason for distancing language and the bike is a red herring. Notice TD says 'her bike' because he naturally associates her with it and he's not even close to her. A few other places where BM says 'the bike' seem appropriate for the context he is using, because that is when the police have it.
3. the evidence. He's talked evidence into existence that there is no proof of. I think this sounds like a defense and he knows they won't find stranger evidence on the bike.
4. my wife. I expected to hear him say Suzanne's name here. He is distancing himself from her. And he 'told' her 'mind if I go'? I would say this is a construction because he doesn't retell it as asking her.
5. late - so. Why is he explaining why his daughters texted Suzanne 'Happy Mother's Day'? I think this reveals he had his eye on the time that day.
6. We have the daughters and the neighbor both saying "a little worried", according to him. It doesn't sound like a reliable report to me. Why would anyone minimize worry about Suzanne, unless they wanted to minimize that they anticipated a problem? Even though it's attributed to other people HE feels it's important to relay that. Calling the police suggests it had escalated beyond a little worry, imo.
7. check the house. Again there is no mention of Suzanne, just bricks, so I have to conclude he is distancing himself from her. Why doesn't he say check on Suzanne? It sounds like he is saying it from the memory of knowing the neighbor will find an empty house.

My opinion.

I think BM was suspicious of TD from the moment he discovered him there and that is why his mother also was in the truck. I also think everything BM said was because he was suspicious. I have no doubt LE told him and his family that perps often return to the scene of the crime so be watchful. Why did TD go to that area? The area where the bike was found was never released. BM reminded the stranger of the substantial reward. If the stranger was involved, he might decide to leave a tip and collect the reward.

When speaking to strangers, I don't refer to my husband or kids by their first names. That's a tad too friendly for my comfort zone.

JMO

 

[OzzieB]

Those pictures that were just posted were very helpful. The creek and bridge are basically down the street from the house, and there are other houses around. The way it's all been described, it sounded like she was in a jungle and fell in a volcano. If there was anything there, they would have found it.

May not be appropriate but I gotta admit laughed at this... But you're so right this whole thing has been such a confusing mess.

 

[PaulaDC]

These two articles mention that the bike was found, but I can't tell where that information originated . Moo

But neither say "the police recovered the bike" could BM have recovered the bike? moo

 

[MassGuy]

Lets not forget when we watched Watts and his body language we all thought his arms being crossed, his swaying, his hugging himself were all huge red flags!!! Now we look at BM and his arms were wide open, he spoke with confidence, Tyson was in his space but Barry stood his ground.

Watts was in front of news cameras though, and the interviews occurred the following day.

BM may not have known he was being recorded, and if he did, had weeks to prepare and hone his story.

We’ve never seen him in front of the news media, as countless relatives of missing loved ones have done in the past. So innocent or not, the circumstances are very different.

 

[OzzieB]

I think BM was suspicious of TD from the moment he discovered him there and that is why his mother also was in the truck. I also think everything BM said was because he was suspicious. I have no doubt LE told him and his family that perps often return to the scene of the crime so be watchful. Why did TD go to that area? The area where the bike was found was never released. BM reminded the stranger of the substantial reward. If the stranger was involved, he might decide to leave a tip and collect the reward.

When speaking to strangers, I don't refer to my husband or kids by their first names. That's a tad too friendly for my comfort zone.

JMO

YES !!!! OMG THANK YOU...

 

[LietKynes]

I find it odd that the GF$ begging page has only had 2 donations added in the last 2 days. Seems like people aren't really interested anymore. MOO

Maybe because the beneficiary was changed ?
Or possibly b/c people aren't sure what the funds will be used for ?
Since the monies obviously aren't being used for foot or drone searches.

And a substantial reward was already offered and in the latest video interview of the husband the reward was mentioned again.
It still stands.

So, what is it being used for ?
Imo.

 

[OzzieB]

Watts was in front of news cameras though, and the interviews occurred the following day.

BM may not have known he was being recorded, and if he did, had weeks to prepare and hone his story.

We’ve never seen him in front of the news media, as countless relatives of missing loved ones have done in the past. So innocent or not, the circumstances are very different.

If you killed someone you wouldn't be comfortable talking to a stranger either

 

[Hoosierfan72]

IMO, we can look for a multitude of reasons, for example imagine what any person in the world might be feeling in this situation, or when we have them - we can pay attention to actions and statements.

1. Guilt about not being there to help her - I don't see any clues to that mindset. I've been back over it to look. He says "we're pretty comfortable she's not in this triangle." One might think he is using the word comfortable in a totally different context there, but it leaks a peaceful frame of mind which would be hard to conjure up by someone feeling that kind of guilt. He also talks of lions and an abduction in a very direct manner. He says "my concerns were this way and that way" - concerns is light language. "My friend's an army ranger and he knows this stuff better than" - he's talking about evidence of what happened to Suzanne and this language gives away the meaning of it to him too. just casual stuff. Guilt doesn't come across anywhere in this that I can see.

2. Not processing grief - iow denial - I think the processing of two scenarios - accident/mountain lions and abduction, is an indication of a mind considering in the first scenario Suzanne's death and in the second scenario much suffering. This doesn't align with denial, imo. Plus it's only specific things - the bike, talking to Suzanne, and checking the house, which reveal distancing, imo. Sensitive areas.


Based only on the statements, I don't think it's either of these.

MOO

Thank you, well said - I appreciate the response.

 

[LietKynes]

I think he's extremely anxious, maybe even panicked. He sounds like someone who has worked out a preliminary defense theory, with his attorney.

"I don't know what happened to her, but it's either a car ran her off the road and she drowned in a body of water, yet to be found OR it's a mountain lion OR it's an abductor. What else could it be? I do not know where she is!"

"The police screwed up any chance of finding her."

He's going for reasonable doubt.

Suzanne needs to be found.

bbm
I'd say Imo it looks like he's working on his defense....
So maybe someone's been a busy bee ?

 

[LietKynes]

Oddly when I googled using Suzanne Morphew the page came up as... Fundraiser for Shirley Morphew by Trevor Noel-.com
I just looked...from what I see it's been 4 days and that was only one donation also one 5 days ago.

Thanks for posting this.
This is just strange and I agree w/you, it's odd and seems unnecessary.
Imo.

Well that begs the question of why ?

BM's mom isn't going to be walking in the wilderness searching; and it looks like no one else has been asked.

If needed a fund can be used for a person's defense, correct ?
MOO