Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #51

[K9Enzo]

IIRC, in LS conversation with MK last week. She stated JP told her he never told the Daily Mail BM had mail/letters littered all over the hotel room, it was a single letter in the trash. According to LS, JP wanted her to know that. Makes you wonder about the liberty that some new sources can take. Many of us chalk it up to that's just the DM, I still think it's terrible. You're taking a risk when talking to media or other outlets. They are a double edged sword. IMO

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Curious, what did you think WS'ers?

I thought it was excellent .... the lead-in insights from Jackson and Cooper really set the scene for the phone call. Chris introduced himself as from The Interview Room straight away .... the "bee watchers" or BM himself would have heard about "The Interview Room" channel starting up ..........
Yes, I thought it was really good, worth replaying. Trust.

 

[Gigi3]

I really don't want to beat a dead polygraph horse, but to be fair, declining to take one actually only "looks bad" in the opinions of those who believe declining to take one makes you look bad. Likewise, declining a polygraph certainly does not mean you're putting your own worry about it over your missing loved one. It may mean you're following the advice of a legal professional that has advised against taking one.

This is a really good (short) article from a criminal defense attorney that answers this very question: Should I participate in a lie detector test if asked by police?

And in this particular case, taking one or not taking one really isn't as important, as being asked to take one, declining, but then telling others either, you were never asked, or you took one and passed.

Lying about taking one, or being asked to take one, is what makes you look bad.
Telling people you've been cleared, when the CCSO flat out says no one'se been cleared... it's that kind of stuff that makes you look bad.

jmo

100% your last two paragraphs are SPOT on!! That’s one of the many things that I just can’t let slide.

I’ve said it several times on the other threads, but I’ll say it again on this thread...
I don’t give a flying fig Newton About the issue of should He or shouldn’t he take a lie detector test. My issue is that BM said he did and was cleared to family members, then we learn that he NEVER took one! Add to that, BM says he was NEVER asked to take one by LE.

If LE asked his employees to take the test, I can not believe they wouldn’t ask the husband of the missing wife to take the test.
This is something that really bothers me (among a few other details)
MOO

 

[Minordetails]

I thought it was excellent .... the lead-in insights from Jackson and Cooper really set the scene for the phone call. Chris introduced himself as from The Interview Room straight away .... the "bee watchers" or BM himself would have heard about "The Interview Room" channel starting up ..........
Yes, I thought it was really good, worth replaying. Trust.

Lol

 

[K9Enzo]

IMO, he allegedly never took a polygraph. LE has never confirmed or denied.

 

[Gigi3]

IMO, he allegedly never took a polygraph. LE has never confirmed or denied.

You are correct, BUT do you believe him when he says he was never asked to take one? (I’m genuinely curious- not at all trying to be snarky) lol

 

[Algo214]

You are correct, BUT do you believe him when he says he was never asked to take one? (I’m genuinely curious- not at all trying to be snarky) lol

I don't know the protocol i.e if you have to be a POI, suspect or be someone that could potentially become one to be asked to take a polygraph but whatever it is I don't believe him one bit he hasn't been asked

JMO.

 

[fcavanaugh]

Andy Moorman confirmed, I believe on an episode of PE, that a CBI agent visited IN and met with him and advised Andy that BM vehicle EVI did not line up with his timeline, and that BM was asked to take and refused both a lie detector test and CSVA (voice stress analysis) test.

IMHO

 

[Gigi3]

I don't know the protocol i.e if you have to be a POI, suspect or be someone that could potentially become one to be asked to take a polygraph but whatever it is I don't believe him one bit he hasn't been asked

JMO.

Agreed. I just can’t fathom with all of the LE agencies involved in this case that BM wouldn’t be at least asked to take one? Like I mentioned before... it’s his personal choice to take it or not- but be honest about the situation. JMO

 

[K9Enzo]

You are correct, BUT do you believe him when he says he was never asked to take one? (I’m genuinely curious- not at all trying to be snarky) lol

IMO, I believe BM would have been asked to take one by LE.

I was surprised when AM (IIRC) said LE told him BM refused to take one. My first thought, although off in left field, was it was a tactic to see if AM would start spilling his guts on BM, SM, their marriage and life in general. Almost like a shock to the system in those early days of the investigation. Or BM is telling the truth or LE told AM the truth. IMO

 

[Gigi3]

IMO, I believe BM would have been asked to take one by LE.

I was surprised when AM (IIRC) said LE told him BM refused to take one. My first thought, although off in left field, was it was a tactic to see if AM would start spilling his guts on BM, SM, their marriage and life in general. Almost like a shock to the system in those early days of the investigation. Or BM is telling the truth or LE told AM the truth. IMO

Thank you! Initially, I also thought it could’ve been an LE tactic for AM, as well.

But then, BM tells LS in his interview that he was never asked to even take one. I guess I just have a hard time believing that, so I assume LE probably weren’t lying to AM. There’s just so many oddities surrounding this case! JMO.

 

[Algo214]

Thank you! Initially, I also thought it could’ve been an LE tactic for AM, as well.

But then, BM tells LS in his interview that he was never asked to even take one. I guess I just have a hard time believing that, so I assume LE probably weren’t lying to AM. There’s just so many oddities surrounding this case! JMO.

as I said before re: CM's video, can he be trusted if he doesn't trust anyone? My gut says no.
I would say AM saying BM was asked to take a polygraph but refused might've been one of those "police lies" to caught him off guard, but I agree with @K9Enzo that it's one or the other, they are mutually exclusive and one is lying.

And strictly in my opinion, it would be BM that is lying

 

[fcavanaugh]

Andy Moorman confirmed, I believe on an episode of PE, that a CBI agent visited IN and met with him and advised Andy that BM vehicle EVI did not line up with his timeline, etc.


IMHO

Quoting my own post to bring forward from the Media Thread in case anyone’s interested/may not have seen the below PE episode, where Andy Moorman discusses BM truck EVI not lining up with what he told LE, etc.

Andy also talks about Suzanne in this interview, and discusses the searches he participated in with BM et al, in the immediate days following Suzanne’s disappearance.

It’s one of the shorter PE episodes lol, approx. 32 mins total.

IMHO

 

[Gigi3]

as I said before re: CM's video, can he be trusted if he doesn't trust anyone? My gut says no.
I would say AM saying BM was asked to take a polygraph but refused might've been one of those "police lies" to caught him off guard, but I agree with @K9Enzo that it's one or the other, they are mutually exclusive and one is lying.

And strictly in my opinion, it would be BM that is lying

Totally agree with you! My opinion is also that BM is lying because he’s said that LE never asked him to take one. I just don’t buy that.

BM told Tyson Draper that he had been cleared, so I would assume that he told AM the same thing, however, we know as of right now LE has not publicly cleared anyone. Why lie about taking the test?

 

[Algo214]

Totally agree with you! My opinion is also that BM is lying because he’s said that LE never asked him to take one. I just don’t buy that.

BM told Tyson Draper that he had been cleared, so I would assume that he told AM the same thing, however, we know as of right now LE has not publicly cleared anyone. Why lie about taking the test?

Might as well walk on thin ice:
Who goes out and says "this is a crime scene", "I'm certain she's not here", "we've searched an impossibly large surface", "I was cleared"

Ugh.

Only red flags as far as we know so make of this what you may, which is not much

 

[K9Enzo]

OR OR.... BM was telling the truth, at the time he told AM he had not been asked to take one, he hadn’t...yet. Not sure when he would have been asked by LE- hours later, a week, longer? Assuming he was asked, as I believe.

OR, AM was being a tactic strategic baller and dropped that info publicly to see what BM would do. haha

I’ve posted too much today, that makes me itchy.

IMO

eta: spelling, as always

 

[Gigi3]

OR OR.... BM was telling the truth, at the time he told AM he had not been asked to take one, he hadn’t...yet. Not sure when he would have been asked by LE- hours later, a week, longer? Assuming he was asked, as I believe.

OR, AM was being a tactic strategic baller and dropped that info publicly to see what BM wound do. haha

I’ve posted too much today, that makes me itchy.

IMO

Keep the posts coming! Lol

I enjoy having another perspective because it definitely makes me take a harder look. Your scenario could be absolutely correct. We just don’t know.... YET.

 

[Algo214]

Keep the posts coming! Lol

I enjoy having another perspective because it definitely makes me take a harder look. Your scenario could be absolutely correct. We just don’t know.... YET.

And at least we agree that he was asked, we differ on when.

 

[susiQ]

Might as well walk on thin ice:
Who goes out and says "this is a crime scene", "I'm certain she's not here", "we've searched an impossibly large surface", "I was cleared"

Ugh.

Only red flags as far as we know so make of this what you may, which is not much

I believe it only became a “crime scene” for BM when no one would believe his nightmarish assertion about how the “cat” did it. That likely occurred around a day or two after Suzanne “disappeared.” However, that doesn’t mean we don’t speculate about that cat, Bob. Yes indeed, Bob might be involved along with Bob’s best friend. They’re inseparable it appears . JMHO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I believe it only became a “crime scene” for BM when no one would believe his nightmarish assertion about how the “cat” did it. That likely occurred around a day or two after Suzanne “disappeared.” However, that doesn’t mean we don’t speculate about that cat, Bob. Yes indeed, Bob might be involved along with Bob’s best friend. They’re inseparable it appears . JMHO.

Not that I think he's actually innocent of Suzanne's disappearance, but... if he were, would it make sense that at first, he'd be latching on to an animal attack the way he did?
Or blaming local LE for "messing it up" (the "crime" scene), the way he did?
It's like BM was pushing both scenarios at the same time.

jmo