Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #11

[susiQ]

The fault lies in them occupied with proving the husband did it, tearing up cement going through their home, etc. etc. How about Searching elsewhere for her?

Where do you propose LE search? Just “anywhere”, willy nilly? I believe they are following evidence and are investigating the tips they have received. If their focus seems directed at a certain individual there’s likely good reason behind it. MOO

 

[10ofRods]

Ok, deleted by me. Will wait for a journalist to publish. Will now also look for a media quote that he had a “landscaping business” and wasn’t just a “landscaper”.

Well, he graduated with a bachelor's in landscaping design from Purdue.

Does that count?

 

[Feistyomi]

And sitting on the fence is fine, especially at this stage but we don’t even have basic facts.

I am guided by how law enforcement is handling this, but there’s no way I could make a compelling argument as to guilt or innocence. We need evidence for that.

I do have a strong opinion as to where this is heading though.

My point though is that stating that everything is rosy based on expensive houses and pretty appearances, is not evidence that all was well.

I think we’re going to learn some things.

yebbut, they won’t let us post any thing we might accidentally sleuth...
how true that statement! And then there are those millionaires happily walking around getting mistaken for the gardeners.

I Will always hope for the happier endings, until I can’t . It doesn’t mean I do not respect your knowledge...

 

[Warwick7]

BBM:

Are you familiar with the phrase, "house-rich but cash-poor?"

Some people live well beyond their means.

I'm thinking this "successful" business is a lot of smoke and mirrors.

JMO.

BAM!!!!
BAM!!!!

 

[Murphy1950]

I wish we knew. BM says they were "running late." Some people on WS seem to think they were 14 hours away. I think it was at least 7-8 hours away.

But we really have no idea except that the Fire Chief reports on Barry's temporary living arrangement (family home is under investigation) and says he doesn't know where the daughters are.

And we're not allowed to sleuth them. I can think of several scenarios in which the daughters decided to stay elsewhere - but that's mere speculation.

I do hear you, always respect your thoughts... but my thoughts are strictly going by being that age, and I personally wasn't even that close to my mom, not as close as they appear to be to Suzanne. ABSOLUTELY NO WAY could I get a call, in route, coming home (much less on Mothers day) and someone says "mom is missing, go somewhere else tonight"...I know I'd be there twice as fast....HOPEFULLY kids haven't changed that much....

 

[brooks]

Did LE search the area at all after the first 2-3 days? (Not counting demolishing concrete.) I don't think they have, and that is why I keep suggesting that Texas Equusearch be brought in. Can BM make that request?

 

[Warwick7]

And sitting on the fence is fine, especially at this stage but we don’t even have basic facts.

I am guided by how law enforcement is handling this, but there’s no way I could make a compelling argument as to guilt or innocence. We need evidence for that.

I do have a strong opinion as to where this is heading though.

My point though is that stating that everything is rosy based on expensive houses and pretty appearances, is not evidence that all was well.

I think we’re going to learn some things.

And.....I think, these are things in the end we will wish we wouldn't have never heard.

It was bad when we heard there was so much blood at K. Berreth's....but to hear she said "please stop please stop!" At that moment it threw me right over the edge.

We are going to learn some things about SM & BM....

 

[Itsapuzzle]

I wonder if during his travels to Denver BM turned off his cell or removed the cell battery. If not, it seems like LE would have a pretty good idea on his whereabouts. Or perhaps he could’ve stopped in remote places that don’t have cell coverage? There are so many rugged and remote locations in the Rockies, like a needle in a haystack.

Good point. I wonder too if he borrowed someone’s car on Friday/Saturday .... LE will be checking that out.

 

[Dave F.]

Good point. I wonder too if he borrowed someone’s car on Friday/Saturday .... LE will be checking that out.

I would hope they have already checked that out. It's been three and a half weeks, already. IMO

 

[RickshawFan]

Absolutely! I'm looking for any "regulated/setup burns" by the Volunteers.

Regular people aren't allowed to do fires and they would attract attention.

Didn't the fire chief say there were no fire trainings of any kind because of COVID? ‘Pacing around, staring out windows’: Chaffee County Fire Chief addresses questions about missing Suzanne Morphew’s husband Barry Morphew
And "controlled burns" are a whole different thing. They're a policy decision, not a training exercise. Since huge tracts of land out west belong to the Federal government (under the auspices of BLM, USFS, and National Park Service), controlled burns AFAIK are administered by those agencies. They burn dried brush in selected areas, so that a natural fire doesn't sweep through and cause a catastrophic event. So, this is a fire control technique. AFAIK it's not a local volunteer firefighter kind of thing, and they don't belong there at all.
Besides, BM is a novice volunteer firefighter. So new, I'll bet all he gets to do is haul hoses and maybe do some mattock-wielding.

 

[mainemom376]

Even from the very beginning, this case was so reminiscent of Jennifer Dulos. I really hope they find Suzanne, but it is really not looking good. JMO

 

[LietKynes]

I would hope they have already checked that out. It's been three and a half weeks, already. IMO

bbm
Oh, yes, agreed.

I'll bet LE have been all over BM and his digital and maybe physical trail, like white on rice.
Possibly something he said or did or withheld -- made them suspicious. Imo.

They have their reasons, and I don't think it's the 'husband probably had something to do with it' excuse.
It's a frustrating wait as we've all had so many questions !
My opinion only.

 

[PaulaDC]

If it was the helmet that was found, that's suggestive, because as you say, it's not something that just "falls off" in a scuffle.

Most mountain lions don't know how to untie a strap, much less want to bother with one.
So there's that.

It's a bit of stretch to imagine an abductor taking the time to remove their victim's helmet before throwing her into the trunk of their vehicle, either.

So there's that, too.

I think depending on how close the item(s) found were to the location her bike was retrieved, some of the more likely possibilities are:

• SM's bike helmet
• SM's phone
• One of her shoes

I don't think the perp will have left an article of her clothing due to the risk of touch/trace DNA.

JMO.

In the video where BM is explaining what happened to the YouTube guy, he mentions that LE found an article of SM and points towards the direction of the find, he then goes directly to the "cat" scenario and mentions big cats carrying things up while motioning with his arm still in that direction almost merging the "cat" scenario with that of the item .........makes me feel that either it's a double set up or somehow that item went un-noticed and was tossed out. Which means more than likely someone went that direction. Now I'm curious what is, was it West he said? moo

 

[J.M. Bee]

I'm with you. I'm over 60 and that's exactly what I said and how I said it to my Dad when he told us he had cancer: "Oh, Daddy".

I think he started with "Oh Suzanne" and in that tone because he is experiencing guilt re what he did to Suzanne. Listen to it again. It sounds something like the beginning of an "I'm so sorry" plea.

It's also strange how despite starting by addressing Suzanne ("Oh Suzanne") --- which in itself is actually strange (is she supposed to be looking at her Facebook timeline somewhere?) --- he immediately switches to speaking (over her shoulder as it were) to her supposed captors ("if anyone has you ...").

What evidence was there at that point that she had been abducted? None. Why is he talking this way then? Because he's narrative-building. IMO.

It's also strange that he only manages to speak for like 25 seconds and the whole thing is a jumbled, incoherent mess.

All JMO, as always.

 

[trujac]

And “chilling.”

Yes...IMO BM clearly has low emotional intelligence...which could explain a lot of things, including why LE immediately focused in on him. On a side note, you would think with a college degree in landscaping there are more skills involved than just moving dirt and stacking rocks.

 

[LietKynes]

Didn't the fire chief say there were no fire trainings of any kind because of COVID? ‘Pacing around, staring out windows’: Chaffee County Fire Chief addresses questions about missing Suzanne Morphew’s husband Barry Morphew

What if ... there was an older area with a previous burn.
Is it possible someone could do the 'smokeless fire' or similar burn over the bare, burned patch ?
And it wouldn't even be noticed ?
Js.

 

[bancam]

Well, he graduated with a bachelor's in landscaping design from Purdue.

Does that count?

Strictly speaking, no. That simply makes him a graduate, and only if mainstream media said he was a graduate (and not simply that he “attended” which is what I read). And only if mainstream media also said that this was the actual title of his degree (which IMO...just speculation...MOO, JMO et al it might not be, and therefore the media source might be questionable).

All this kind of highlights the point I was making when I deleted references to businesses on the public record that had been registered to an Indiana property that mainstream media reports relating to SM’s disappearance had made me familiar with.

Ok now back to the published facts, sorry

 

[ogls]

Didn't the fire chief say there were no fire trainings of any kind because of COVID? ‘Pacing around, staring out windows’: Chaffee County Fire Chief addresses questions about missing Suzanne Morphew’s husband Barry Morphew

Not training, real actual burns that try to ward off coming fire. Fire fighters dig trenches and/burn a path, so the fire doesn't jump/continue. Using loose words here, no disrespect to those who risk their lives doing that, only know things from the news.

Learning about Colorado, wonder if they would do the same, since there was a warning to residents.

Edit: Seriously? Degree in Landscape Design?

 

[RickshawFan]

It takes time to go up and down the trail. So someone close with the staging on their mind, also knows that. More risk of being seen by anybody. Even at night.

For me it is about the point of her being on her bike somewhere. If it is a staging then I would like to see how this possibly could have gone down. Given the terrain and the timeframe. Multiple days of removing possible evidence and staging?

Can we safely say she was not taken from her house and thus also her bike now that the house is returned to the family?

Trail? What trail? There's no evidence any trail is involved in this case.

 

[RickshawFan]

Not training, real actual burns that try to ward off coming fire. Fire fighters dig trenches and/burn a path, so the fire doesn't jump/continue. Using loose words here, no disrespect to those who risk their lives doing that, only know things from the news.

Learning about Colorado, wonder if they would do the same, since there was a warning to residents.

Edit: Seriously? Degree in Landscape Design?

Those are controlled burns you seem to be describing.

The other version is forest fire, where smoke-jumpers use mattocks and other heavy hand tools to make fire breaks in a nature-caused conflagration. Smoke-jumpers are professionals, not volunteers. It's a highly skilled and well-paid outdoor profession.