Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #11

[Truecolors]

I think BM was suspicious of TD from the moment he discovered him there and that is why his mother also was in the truck. I also think everything BM said was because he was suspicious. I have no doubt LE told him and his family that perps often return to the scene of the crime so be watchful. Why did TD go to that area? The area where the bike was found was never released. BM reminded the stranger of the substantial reward. If the stranger was involved, he might decide to leave a tip and collect the reward.

When speaking to strangers, I don't refer to my husband or kids by their first names. That's a tad too friendly for my comfort zone.

JMO

I agree he was suspicious, but rather because he suspected TD to be media. He even says it right up front.

MOO, he confirmed TD was media and decided to use him to argue his case. They did a little dance where they both pretended they didn’t know that TD already knew every published detail and rumor.

I don’t believe for a moment that BM or any loving husband would interact that casually with a stranger who they viewed as a possible suspect in his wife’s disappearance.

 

[MyBelle]

In the DWAP interview with YouTube guy, TD and he said when BM and his mom pulled up in the truck he was near the bridge. I assume he was referring to Foose’s Creek bridge? the same bridge where he was filming the day before.

TD said BM’s truck was parked right by the bridge during their interview and they walked just a short way up the hill where BM showed him where SM’s bike was found.

TD referred to it as a steep ravine with water down below. Later in the interview he said there were large boulders at the bottom of the ravine which would cause serious injuries if someone went down it on a bike.

Here’s a few photos from Google Earth. I marked Foose’s Creek bridge in blue in the second photo. The red arrows show where it looks like the road goes uphill with a ravine on the opposite side. The Morphew house is marked with a red pin.

JMO

Thanks for the photos. The house looks quite a ways from the bridge. So how did the youtuber know to go to that very place?

JMO

 

[NuttMegg]

Lets not forget when we watched Watts and his body language we all thought his arms being crossed, his swaying, his hugging himself were all huge red flags!!! Now we look at BM and his arms were wide open, he spoke with confidence, Tyson was in his space but Barry stood his ground.

Those behaviors of Watts took place only a day or 2 after he murdered his family, before any police interviews, interrogations. IIRC BM released his first interview with/by himself on FB a week after his wife disappeared. Or did we ever learn someone else had taped and edited it? Did we see any filmed behavior from him before this fellow surreptitiously recorded him? He's had a lot of time to work out the kinks in his media presentations, decide what scenario to emphasize, how to look while he's doing it. Everyone knows I am no Watts fan, but behaviors filmed very soon after the murderer murders can't really be compared to behaviors from the husband of a missing woman weeks after a crime he may have committed. Note I am not saying BM is a murderer, just that he's had lots of time to get all the ducks in a row, so to speak.

ETA I see I was typing as MassGuy said basically the same thing, but it's valid and stands to be repeated!

 

[LietKynes]

agree w/ your last statement.
I think the stress and pressure of being under the microscope is getting to him.
Wonder if he's drinking heavily or popping pills cause he sure looked like a mess.

That's something we'll probably never know.

If he was taking something for his health or fitness and then suddenly stopped for whatever reason, yes it could affect his appearance not to mention his mental health and peace of mind.

 

[Murphy1950]

Thanks for posting this.
This is just strange and I agree w/you, it's odd and seems unnecessary.
Imo.

Well that begs the question of why ?

BM's mom isn't going to be walking in the wilderness searching; and it looks like no one else has been asked.

If needed a fund can be used for a person's defense, correct ?
MOO

I honestly think it's a scribner's error, I noticed that the other day. It must have accidently changed when they changed beneficiary names (as I understand from posts on this site they did make those changes)Seems Noel totally abandoned the "find Suzanne Page" and the GF page...something going on.

 

[Poedelini]

Those behaviors of Watts took place only a day or 2 after he murdered his family, before any police interviews, interrogations. IIRC BM released his first interview with/by himself on FB a week after his wife disappeared. Or did we ever learn someone else had taped and edited it? Did we see any filmed behavior from him before this fellow surreptitiously recorded him? He's had a lot of time to work out the kinks in his media presentations, decide what scenario to emphasize, how to look while he's doing it. Everyone knows I am no Watts fan, but behaviors filmed very soon after the murderer murders can't really be compared to behaviors from the husband of a missing woman weeks after a crime he may have committed. Note I am not saying BM is a murderer, just that he's had lots of time to get all the ducks in a row, so to speak.

ETA I see I was typing as MassGuy said basically the same thing, but it's valid and stands to be repeated!

And Watts was not able to fully execute his plan. If BM is guilty he did fully execute his plan and is way more confident.

 

[OzzieB]

Umm wait... So just because a man is muscular it means he was taking "something" for his health and fitness?? The dude was a an athlete, he works landscaping, he hunts, he passed the firefighter physical exam. Yes he looks beat down but he is still out there. If he came out in a polo and some pressed pants and a new hair cut people would say "he doesn't look beat down enough he must be fine" the dude can't find the woman is spent over 30 years with. How should he look?

 

[Seattle1]

Disparity:

In the plea video BM is allegedly talking to a kidnapper, saying "we'll pay anything.."

In the video that youtuber TD recorded, BM is trying to sell the "mountain lion /cat got her and dragged her up the hill."

We recently learned that less than 24 hours after SM was reported missing, an email was sent to members of BM's former church in Indiana requesting prayers for SM because her bike was located "crashed," and a mountain lion was sighted in the area nearby. Although the author of the email was not revealed by the reporter, I believe it was BM.

IMO, the email was directed to those that know the couple best and who BM expected would be the first reach out and come to his aid. BM needed to provide a reasonable explanation to explain SM's disappearance, and one that completely distanced him from his explanation.

I think the email is evidence of BM's mindset immediately after police reported his wife missing. It's a glimpse of what BM thinks a foolproof plan. It's BM's focus, and I think it's what he's going to stick with:

1) Bicycle places SM in the wooded trail area;
2) SM was mountain lion prey;
3) SM abducted from the area (after search efforts exhausted).

I think this explains BM putting out the abduction theory in his FB video a week later on Sunday, May 17. Believing that a search for SM would buy him a few days, BM would interject the abduction theory when becoming evident that the search is not producing evidence of SM.

I don't expect BM will veer off his three-point plan much because he thinks it's a winner. However, as more time passes and friends and family start to head back home to tend to their own lives, BM will shift gears and adopt the abduction theory fulltime. MOO

May 25, 2020

CrimeOnline has viewed a message that was sent to members of the Morphew’s former church in Indiana, requesting prayers following the news of her disappearance. The message notes that Morphew’s bike was found “crashed,” and mentions that a mountain lion had been seen in the area where the bike was discovered.

“Barry is just beside himself and so are the rest of us because they can’t find her,” the message, sent on May 11, reads in part.

Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze said during the first week of the search that investigators believed it was unlikely Morphew was the victim of an animal attack.

https://www.crimeonline.com/2020/05/25/they-cant-find-her-message-to-church-group-shows-desperate-plea-in-early-days-of-search-for-missing-colorado-mom-suzanne-morphew-report/

 

[LietKynes]

I wonder about this too? TD said BM was wet and looked very distraught. Was he diwnin the creek looking fur something? Surely the water in that creek would be ice cold.


He didn’t say why he was at that exact spot near the bridge although he was filming in the same area the day before. He said in the interview that he went back to look for the plastic food bag marked ‘Day 4’ that he saw the previous day but was unable to find it.
JMO

Imo.
Diving for ...what ?
Or just hot and bothered ?
I wish TD had asked him specifically what he was doing there ?
Just for general info. and all that.

 

[Feistyomi]

IMO, at the same time and to a degree I think loved ones get a pass for this - they are critical of LE because they are desperate for the missing to be found, a resolution (I don't like the word closure). They are usually left in the dark. LE probably won't return phone calls for updates, they feel like they are being blown off. Other people are in their ears about LE should have done this, should have done that. You could show these poor families an itemized list of all the resources used and man hours working the case but they still don't have their loved one at the end of the day.

Profound statement...I would imagine they blame themselves as well, or even the bike and the weather. I can easily see myself in a similar situation. It is easy to think we would react in a certain way, but I believe I would have days of anger, days of sorrow,
days of acceptance, and probably question LE, even tho that is not normal for me.
In this case, I could see a grieving husband visiting the spot his wife disappeared just as easily as a guilty one.
I can see a distraught husband talking w/ a total stranger, or a guilty one.

 

[NuttMegg]

And Watts was not able to fully execute his plan. If BM is guilty he did fully execute his plan and is way more confident.

True. The longer time goes by the more confident BM will be, whether or not he's the killer. Confident either dealing with a sad inexplicable loss, or confident that one of the scenarios he presents is being widely believed and accepted. Did we ever learn when the last time was that anyone verifiably heard from her? IE could the disappearance/abduction/puma attack have taken place on Friday or Saturday?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I agree with you. To me, it’s like a civilian wearing a wire. If BM is innocent, no harm done that I can see. IMO etc.

And depending if that state is a one or two party consent state, recording a conversation with someone surreptitiously could be a federal offense.

 

[MyBelle]

[/QUOTE]
TD isn't a member of the news media. Media carry credentials. I've had a reporter come to our door and her credentials were around her neck, very visible as well as her media logo on her jacket.

TD said he was from Arizona and wanted to help search. afaik, the location where the bike was found has never been released to the media.

JMO

Those behaviors of Watts took place only a day or 2 after he murdered his family, before any police interviews, interrogations. IIRC BM released his first interview with/by himself on FB a week after his wife disappeared. Or did we ever learn someone else had taped and edited it? Did we see any filmed behavior from him before this fellow surreptitiously recorded him? He's had a lot of time to work out the kinks in his media presentations, decide what scenario to emphasize, how to look while he's doing it. Everyone knows I am no Watts fan, but behaviors filmed very soon after the murderer murders can't really be compared to behaviors from the husband of a missing woman weeks after a crime he may have committed. Note I am not saying BM is a murderer, just that he's had lots of time to get all the ducks in a row, so to speak.

ETA I see I was typing as MassGuy said basically the same thing, but it's valid and stands to be repeated!

iirc, Watts gave a tv news interview while LE were in his house searching it. He was also recorded on police body cam as he allowed LE to walk through the house. BM's video announcing the reward came shortly after SM went missing but it wasn't an interview with the news media. I'm not aware of any media interviews done by BM.

JMO

 

[Whiteorchids]

Hmm why isn’t he sticking to one story if that’s what he truly believes happened to his wife of 32 years but he’s throwing whatever out there hoping people will have the mindset he had nothing to do with it and buy one of his 3 choices. JMO

 

[LietKynes]

We recently learned that less than 24 hours after SM was reported missing, an email was sent to members of BM's former church in Indiana requesting prayers for SM because her bike was located "crashed," and a mountain lion was sighted in the area nearby. Although the author of the email was not revealed by the reporter, I believe it was BM.

IMO, the email was directed to those that know the couple best and who BM expected would be the first reach out and come to his aid. BM needed to provide a reasonable explanation to explain SM's disappearance, and one that completely distanced him from his explanation.

I think the email is evidence of BM's mindset immediately after police reported his wife missing. It's a glimpse of what BM thinks a foolproof plan. It's BM's focus, and I think it's what he's going to stick with:

1) Bicycle places SM in the wooded trail area;
2) SM was mountain lion prey;
3) SM abducted from the area (after search efforts exhausted).

I think this explains BM putting out the abduction theory in his FB video a week later on Sunday, May 17. Believing that a search for SM would buy him a few days, BM would interject the abduction theory when becoming evident that the search is not producing evidence of SM.

I don't expect BM will veer off his three-point plan much because he thinks it's a winner. However, as more time passes and friends and family start to head back home to tend to their own lives, BM will shift gears and adopt the abduction theory fulltime. MOO

May 25, 2020

CrimeOnline has viewed a message that was sent to members of the Morphew’s former church in Indiana, requesting prayers following the news of her disappearance. The message notes that Morphew’s bike was found “crashed,” and mentions that a mountain lion had been seen in the area where the bike was discovered.

“Barry is just beside himself and so are the rest of us because they can’t find her,” the message, sent on May 11, reads in part.

Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze said during the first week of the search that investigators believed it was unlikely Morphew was the victim of an animal attack.

https://www.crimeonline.com/2020/05/25/they-cant-find-her-message-to-church-group-shows-desperate-plea-in-early-days-of-search-for-missing-colorado-mom-suzanne-morphew-report/

Bbm
Bumping this post.

Re. the green bolded : Despite LE not having mentioned the bike, I find it interesting that the sender of the email described it as "crashed".
Very telling. Imo.
How did the sender know this ; if LE didn't divulge it to him/her ?

Re. the lavender bolded : Out of curiosity, who saw this elusive creature ? Because, inquiring minds and all that...

 

[osu]

Thanks for the photos. The house looks quite a ways from the bridge. So how did the youtuber know to go to that very place?

JMO

TD was in the same area filming near the bridge the day before. He said he went back the next day because he was looking for the ziplock bag marked ‘Day 4’ that he had seen the day before but he couldn’t find it.

JMO

 

[OzzieB]

TD isn't a member of the news media. Media carry credentials. I've had a reporter come to our door and her credentials were around her neck, very visible as well as her media logo on her jacket.

TD said he was from Arizona and wanted to help search. afaik, the location where the bike was found has never been released to the media.

JMO

iirc, Watts gave a tv news interview while LE were in his house searching it. He was also recorded on police body cam as he allowed LE to walk through the house. BM's video announcing the reward came shortly after SM went missing but it wasn't an interview with the news media. I'm not aware of any media interviews done by BM.

JMO[/QUOTE]
Ok going off what you said and to be clear I respect your opinion. People were saying how it was suspect when Barry said it was too soon for an interview or plea. We know Watts killed his family and he gave the interview right there on the spot. How does Barry not giving an interview or plea on the spot make him look guilty when we know a man who did killed his. Pregnant wife buried her, he killed his unborn baby boy and 2 kids and put them in oil tanks?

 

[OzzieB]

TD isn't a member of the news media. Media carry credentials. I've had a reporter come to our door and her credentials were around her neck, very visible as well as her media logo on her jacket.

TD said he was from Arizona and wanted to help search. afaik, the location where the bike was found has never been released to the media.

JMO

iirc, Watts gave a tv news interview while LE were in his house searching it. He was also recorded on police body cam as he allowed LE to walk through the house. BM's video announcing the reward came shortly after SM went missing but it wasn't an interview with the news media. I'm not aware of any media interviews done by BM.

JMO[/QUOTE]
Ok going off what you said and to be clear I respect your opinion. People were saying how it was suspect when Barry said it was too soon for an interview or plea. We know Watts killed his family and he gave the interview right there on the spot. How does Barry not giving an interview or plea on the spot make him look guilty when we know a man who did killed his. Pregnant wife buried her, he killed his unborn baby boy and 2 kids and put them in oil tanks?

 

[OzzieB]

Ok going off what you said and to be clear I respect your opinion. People were saying how it was suspect when Barry said it was too soon for an interview or plea. We know Watts killed his family and he gave the interview right there on the spot. How does Barry not giving an interview or plea on the spot make him look guilty when we know a man who did killed his. Pregnant wife buried her, he killed his unborn baby boy and 2 kids and put them in oil tanks?

 

[Feistyomi]

It makes total sense to me. If a third-party is involved--and I believe this is an abduction--if the integrity of evidence was compromised, it would be difficult to hold up in court and that may end up being the biggest piece of evidence they find. Other women have been brutally attacked while out running or bicycling alone and I think that is exactly what happened here.

JMO

IMO, I am leaning toward your side of the fence, it is nice to have others there w/ me.
MOO, LE has become far more able to follow the paper trails, DNA evidence; the abduction cases are progressing, w/surveillance cameras even random abduction cases are being solved.
This is still the one area that is going to continue to be difficult to solve..