Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #11

[susiQ]

Not always. Most of the couples I know, my wife and I included, are unhappy. But we stay. I am always kind of jealous of people that have the courage to get divorced.

Would you stay if your wife was having an affair? Would your wife stay if you were having an affair? Personal question you don’t need to respond to, but I would not. Of course, we don’t know if this is what happened.

 

[Feistyomi]

Not always. Most of the couples I know, my wife and I included, are unhappy. But we stay. I am always kind of jealous of people that have the courage to get divorced.

Grandmother advice/lecture...stay on this site, at least you will know how hard it is to commit the perfect crime! Divorce, while painful is still the better option! It will cost you less in the long run. See a counselor... from
Experience, your kids will leave home eventually. Affairs are not the solution!
40 years of my own marriage have not always been “happy”. Ups and downs, financial woes, We are happy now, but you
both have to work at it!
JMO
Sometimes it takes more courage to stay in a marriage. Many divorces are absolutely necessary! I am a middle child, always both sides.
Divorce is greatly researched. Long term marriages, not as much. We are possibly sleuthing one of these “happy” marriages, so sad!MVHO

 

[K9Enzo]

There didn't even have to be infidelity, abuse, neglect...

IMO, I believe some women feel like they can lose themselves with being a wife and mother. That becomes your identity, a dedicated wife and mother. At one time they felt more than that. Some women might, especially when children are older and not even having any ill will towards their husband, decide it's no longer enough for them. They want to live and dream again, put a plan in motion that they never thought they could. Many will think this is shameful. I think it's beautiful when it's that moment for them.

Another tragedy out of this, IMO, is if and when she's ever recovered (I think she will be) - the headline will be beautiful mom deceased. The core of who she was is lost forever.

Off my soap box.

 

[MrX]

Would you stay if your wife was having an affair? Would your wife stay if you were having an affair? Personal question you don’t need to respond to, but I would not. Of course, we don’t know if this is what happened.

No - and that's the problem in the unhappy marriages I am surrounded by. There's never anything that provides a good excuse to leave, like an affair.

 

[brooks]

I suggest Texas Equusearch be called to perform a professional search.

 

[Feistyomi]

I don't believe it either. My point was I can see that being a possibility that would cross Barry's mind.

JMO I would guess it depends on who FIRST brought up lion attack.
Or if indeed an officer did see one that night or rather had seen one in general area on a recent night.
JMO WAS BM the person who brought lion up? ( gossip, telephone game)
Did an officer make any statement that created necessity of ruling it out.

Did BM make himself focus other than all the historical data?
JMO

 

[CronesEye]

Not always. Most of the couples I know, my wife and I included, are unhappy. But we stay. I am always kind of jealous of people that have the courage to get divorced.

Morphews were churchgoers in a rather authoritarian church, (MOO only), "obedience" was important. So I see this as requiring a union under God's laws not man/womans feelings or realities. It would therefore be a duty to maintain at least a congenial if not happy marriage or family environment and important to portray as much to the community.
And as a side note there is the Abraham Lincoln maxim that one is as happy as one makes up their mind to be. I always thought it was silly, but through studies have found myself pursuing happiness and attaining it no matter what. If one works hard at one can find happiness regardless of circumstances, but it is hard work. The Morphews might have been working on this, I know I am and it is an option for us all with hope and commitment to our own happiness.

LoreListener had a good entry a while ago, pertaining to obedience in their Salida Church:

CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #8

 

[LietKynes]

JMO, I reread your post and now understand your info, I am not LE and I have never gone in depth on these issues, as I assume there are constant revisions and variations. I trust LE to be on top of these issues. For my info, if husband granted permission to search anything and anywhere, wouldn’t LE still need search warrant to cover any potential? IOW I think LE must take these steps even if they do not think spouse Is suspect, but until spouse makes himself a suspect, they can’t do this w/ o cause or consent? JMO

bbm
Yes, I believe so.
Because if they find something significant, it may not stand up in court without a warrant.
IMO.
I am also not LE.

 

[LietKynes]

Lots of people “fall out of love” for various reasons. They get a divorce. IF BM is involved in SM’s disappearance, WHY wasn’t divorce an option? Another woman? Shady assests, mountain of debt she was not aware of? Things he couldn’t explain to a divorce attorney? Fear of SM knowing/discovering something that was criminal? SO many questions.

Just speculation, as always,

bbm
Just my opinion, but I think fear (of discovery) is a great motivator in crimes.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Not always. Most of the couples I know, my wife and I included, are unhappy. But we stay. I am always kind of jealous of people that have the courage to get divorced.

Sadly, the court system makes it difficult for unhappy couples to get divorced mainly due to the financial part, community property separated, spousal support, child support, taxes, medical ins, lose all the benefits you get while married couples would suffer the loss so they stay unhappily together therefore opportunity having affairs is greater etc. IMHO JMO MOO

 

[CronesEye]

There didn't even have to be infidelity, abuse, neglect...

IMO, I believe some women feel like they can lose themselves with being a wife and mother. That becomes your identity, a dedicated wife and mother. At one time they felt more than that. Some women might, especially when children are older and not even having any ill will towards their husband, decide it's no longer enough for them. They want to live and dream again, put a plan in motion that they never thought they could. Many will think this is shameful. I think it's beautiful when it's that moment for them.

Another tragedy out of this, IMO, is if and when she's ever recovered (I think she will be) - the headline will be beautiful mom deceased. The core of who she was is lost forever.

Off my soap box.

Please don't get off your soap box, we need you on that soap box - this is very real. As a former advocate I see so many women give up who they are and all their potential to fit into a wider socially accepted role in modern American culture. They end up loosing their core and only being a shell, they become easy targets. They are taught to ignore their gut which can sometimes save their lives, let alone providing for a full and rewarding life. I am sad when I think of all the progress lost since the days of Helen Reddy, "I am woman here me roar...." I think women will again and again, in wave after wave be pushed back from thinking they have any right to anything. To themselves, to empowerment. Women's rights seem to have gone backwards. In all honesty in today's world with all the issues in the media, I have to come back here to websleuths, because I know women's issues will be buried and ignored. Not just in the world at large but here in America. We will be expected to be obedient, giving up our lives psychologically, spiritually and physically. We will always be last in cultural progress as the physiological "weaker" sex.

Madison Bell in Ohio, went missing and LE recently found her. It was said she needed space.

Women need to learn to give permission to themselves, to live for themselves, listen to themselves instead of everyone else all the time and have voice. LoreListener, please, we need you on your soap box.

 

[al66pine]

"Stand Up Guy"

The family friend is very well known locally and IMO a “stand-up” guy

@303gmf Hearing the phrase 'stand-up guy' my mind immediately flashes to HBO's The Sopranos and 'mob' movies' where a 'stand-up guy' is a 'made man' in training, , however exaggerated.
But I'll interpret your use as meaning a good person. jmo

 

[darring21]

I would like to add a reason I believe SM did not go on a Sunday AM bike ride. One of my sons is an avid mountain biker. When he was in college on a camping trip with friends he decided to bike on a trail alone while his friends were doing something else. Unfortunately he hit something on the trail, fell off his bike and broke his ankle. His phone went over the edge of the trail down a steep hill so he couldn’t call for help. It took him hours to limp and crawl back to the campsite while experiencing crushing pain. This happened on a Sunday morning and he encountered no one on the trail. Lesson learned and one he had always adhered to before this: Never go mountain biking alone!! This is why I do not believe SM went for a bike ride in a mountainous area alone on a Sunday morning before church or anytime the day she vanished.

Things in our own lives don't apply to everyone else. Plenty of people mountain bike alone.

 

[Feistyomi]

I am on a see saw on the fence, everyone makes sense on either side.
However, just my curiosity.
BM has multiple areas to disappear his wife. She could be ANYWHERE!
Why stage the scene of her disappearance so close to home? Why draw attention back toward himself?
No body cases take years before insurance
claims, assets can be released.
JMO Even if BM is not arrested,convicted, he needs SM to be found, eventually.
What’s the plan?
See Saw, See Saw
I may sometimes seem to be resting on BM innocence side, that is because I feel LE has the BM guilt side handled, iow to quote MG, they got this...

 

[bancam]

If we're discussing their marriage - perhaps SM was over the relationship.

Yes, please, let's talk about anything other than whether BM was in the creek!
(I kid, people! Don't get angry with me!)

I think the point here is that we shouldn’t have a one track mind. Especially when there is barely no more or no less evidence in public circulation than we had when she first disappeared. Exploring this from all angles is critical because things are not always as they appear IMO.

It is not outside of the realms of possibility that a person who, for example, feels slightly lonely or isolated in a new area; having just overcome a major health event and all that entails emotionally; whose children are becoming independent adults with their own lives; who has a busy/absent partner; who has nobody at home for the day/weekend/night; etc, *could* be the one who has introduced a third party to the mix. With troubling consequences, for whatever reason.

LE would certainly be looking at that scenario too - who else might legitimately have had access to the property or been with SM when her husband was not at home? Speculating about this is really no different to speculating about whether BM was otherwise involved, and there’s been plenty of that speculation here despite no evidence at all to support it. It is a valid line of inquiry, and this is sleuthing after all. Keeping an open mind during an investigation is essential IMO, not simply running with the most likely option and then defending your corner no matter what.

 

[Minordetails]

I believe there was a bike found at the bottom of the ravine on the Sunday night. How it got there? I don’t know. But there was a bike found and it was SM’s bike.

 

[MrX]

Why stage the scene of her disappearance so close to home? Why draw attention back toward himself?

Assuming, for a moment, that the "plan" was to make it looks like a bike ride->cougar attack->abduction, then the location is perfect. Any farther away and it raises questions about how she got to wherever.

 

[Feistyomi]

There didn't even have to be infidelity, abuse, neglect...

IMO, I believe some women feel like they can lose themselves with being a wife and mother. That becomes your identity, a dedicated wife and mother. At one time they felt more than that. Some women might, especially when children are older and not even having any ill will towards their husband, decide it's no longer enough for them. They want to live and dream again, put a plan in motion that they never thought they could. Many will think this is shameful. I think it's beautiful when it's that moment for them.

Another tragedy out of this, IMO, is if and when she's ever recovered (I think she will be) - the headline will be beautiful mom deceased. The core of who she was is lost forever.

Off my soap box.

all excellent points, some women choose to forge an identity, independent of those roles, while remaining in the marriage, depending on the husbands confidence, some can’t handle an equally successful wife...so many possibilities...we need a thread on this topic... why do spouses murder spouses?

I have my own soap box to share w you... I am so hoping it won’t be “Suzanne Morphew, another wife killed by husband”

 

[Hatfield]

If she walked after any kind of bike wreck and she has bike stuff like someone wants us to think..... bike shoes have cleats that stick out. They are not for walking. Some bike shoes are horrible to walk in even/especially on a hard surface. She certainly wouldn't get far in them. Plus, she would have left very tell-tale shoe prints SOMEWHERE.

JMO
I keep thinking there was something special that LE found that made them go in a certain direction. Something like if her bicycle had those clip-on pedals that require the special cleated shoes to ride the bicycle could have been just the thing. Like if she only had one pair of the special biking shoes and those were still at home, then it would really point to her not riding her bicycle that day. You basically cannot ride the bike without the special cleated shoes if you have those clip-on pedals. Especially in mountain bike type terrain where they lived.

I shared a link like this one before that explains how to use the clip-on pedals with the special cleated shoes. I tried riding a friend's bicycle once that had clip-on pedals and I only had my regular tennis shoes on, and it is something that just doesnt work out. You need to have those special cleated shoes so that your feet stay attached to the pedals on the upward stroke. Otherwise your foot slips right off because the pedals are not flat and are usually tiny compared to regular pedals.

So if she had clip-on pedals on her bike like that and she only had one pair of the special cleated shoes and if those were at her home. Then that would be very good evidenece she did not ride that day.

 

[Feistyomi]

Assuming, for a moment, that the "plan" was to make it looks like a bike ride->cougar attack->abduction, then the location is perfect. Any farther away and it raises questions about how she got to wherever.

Assuming, for a moment, that the "plan" was to make it looks like a bike ride->cougar attack->abduction, then the location is perfect. Any farther away and it raises questions about how she got to wherever.

I agree, but isn’t there one other perfect spot along her normal route? I could be a criminal and actually quite good at it, better yet a trial lawyer, as you have to be open to all the opportunities, options, you have to know the prosecutors case, if a defense lawyer and vise versa... ie
Is this only remote area on this route, that accidental death, abduction, lion attacks could happen?
JMO, For the record, I always crossed out lion attack, based on LE statement... if ever in CO wildlife areas, I will act as large as possible, make noise of lots of people, never bend over to look like a deer, and I will keep my eyes in 360• loop. It isn’t that rare, and it will probably be less rare in future. JMO