Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #23

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  • #881
I don't understand why many members are having an issue with the reward offered for Suzanne's "safe return". IMO it is an attempt to keep a potential abductor from harming the victim.

There are many cases where families have offered rewards for the safe return of their loved ones. To name just a few of many:

Sarah Townsend

Julia Madsen
Mekayla Bail
Jamie Tull
Irene Campbell


Only two of those are offering rewards for the safe return of their missing loved one. The rest are offering a reward for “information”, from what I saw.

But again, it’s the totality of the circumstances. It’s not one thing that makes people suspicious. It’s a variety, all combined:

1. Statistics- women are most likely to be murdered by a intimate partner.
2. Demographics - Suzanne is not in a high risk category for murder/abduction by a stranger. (Age, race, income, profession, location).
3. The only evidence we know of that Suzanne went on a bike ride on Mother’s Day is the statement by Barry that the neighbor went to check and saw that Suzanne’s car was there but her bike was not.
4. Extensive searches were conducted that found Suzanne’s bike relatively close to home, and a “personal item” that LE won’t disclose to the public or the family (per Barry’s words in the hidden video). But no evidence or trace of Suzanne being there was found, from what we can tell, except those two things.
5. Three days after she disappeared, local LE got the CBI and FBI to be involved in the case.
6. Barry floated multiple scenarios including abduction, wandering off and falling in a stream (or something to that effect), and a lion attack, suggesting one was seen in the area. He seemed stoic and calm when discussing these possibilities.
7. LE started early on that a mountain lion attack was unlikely.
8. Nine days after she went missing, Suzanne’s home with Barry was held, and searched via a sealed search warrant.
9. Three days after that, a work site of a Barry’s was excavated after ground penetrating radar was utilized.
10. LE stated Barry was cooperating and they hoped he would continue to do so.
11. LE has not released any statements or flyers that would indicate they believe SM was riding her bike that day and are thus searching for information from people who may have seen her or her bike or anyone near her on the day in question.
12. However, LE has requested ring camera footage from neighbors for the day she was reported missing AND the days leading up to that date AND FOR TWO DAYS AFTER.
13. Barry didn’t make the 911 call. He asked the neighbor to.
14. There were two, varying accounts of where Barry was that day, reported to the media.
15. LE has not made any statements to anyone who possibly has her, to release her.
16. Other than one 26 second statement, neither Barry nor the family have begged a possible abductor/killer to release her or confess or come forward AND no one has come forward from the family to talk about suzanne.
17. “Oh Suzanne...”.
18. Neither Barry nor the family are in the public eye begging for help from the public. They’re very quiet.
19. LE have not publicly cleared Barry.
20. A Barry sought and obtained a temporary guardianship over Suzanne in their former state of residence and an order selling a property of theirs, without her signature, filing the request 20 days after she disappeared, at a time when he would presumably be despondent and scared of what happened to his missing wife. But he had the wherewithal to speak with and participate in the action in another state, communicating with counsel and signing documents, for likely at least a week or so prior to the June 1st filing date. So we know money was inexplicably important at that time, to him.
21. In six weeks LE has failed to come up with a vehicle description or other description of someone or some vehicle in the area that was seen, that they want to follow up on.
22. Barry failed to issue any public statement until a week after Suzanne disappeared, stating, reportedly, that it was “too soon”.
23. According to the reporter who got his conversation on hidden camera, Barry threatened him if he later found out the guy was a reporter.
24. Barry offered a reward for her safe return, not just for information or to find her.

It’s almost always a combination of factors. Not just one.
 
  • #882
I live in Colorado Springs and the media here is covering it very often. KXRM,KKTV, KOAA, KRDO and the Gazette.

Lauren is with KXRM Fox 21 here. I did see one Crime Online story recently that attributed one of her recent reports to KDVR Fox 31 Denver.
COS is giving the story much more coverage than Denver media.
JMO
Great...I was looking for written News stories, saw a few out of Denver, as To Colorado springs Absolutely Lauren and Fox TV affiliates as far as I can tell, doing actual newscasts. ...but is that just the updates or do they start from the beginning? curious.
 
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Only two of those are offering rewards for the safe return of their missing loved one. The rest are offering a reward for “information”, from what I saw.

But again, it’s the totality of the circumstances. It’s not one thing that makes people suspicious. It’s a variety, all combined:

1. Statistics- women are most likely to be murdered by a intimate partner.
2. Demographics - Suzanne is not in a high risk category for murder/abduction by a stranger. (Age, race, income, profession, location).
3. The only evidence we know of that Suzanne went on a bike ride on Mother’s Day is the statement by Barry that the neighbor went to check and saw that Suzanne’s car was there but her bike was not.
4. Extensive searches were conducted that found Suzanne’s bike relatively close to home, and a “personal item” that LE won’t disclose to the public or the family (per Barry’s words in the hidden video). But no evidence or trace of Suzanne being there was found, from what we can tell, except those two things.
5. Three days after she disappeared, local LE got the CBI and FBI to be involved in the case.
6. Barry floated multiple scenarios including abduction, wandering off and falling in a stream (or something to that effect), and a lion attack, suggesting one was seen in the area. He seemed stoic and calm when discussing these possibilities.
7. LE started early on that a mountain lion attack was unlikely.
8. Nine days after she went missing, Suzanne’s home with Barry was held, and searched via a sealed search warrant.
9. Three days after that, a work site of a Barry’s was excavated after ground penetrating radar was utilized.
10. LE stated Barry was cooperating and they hoped he would continue to do so.
11. LE has not released any statements or flyers that would indicate they believe SM was riding her bike that day and are thus searching for information from people who may have seen her or her bike or anyone near her on the day in question.
12. However, LE has requested ring camera footage from neighbors for the day she was reported missing AND the days leading up to that date AND FOR TWO DAYS AFTER.
13. Barry didn’t make the 911 call. He asked the neighbor to.
14. There were two, varying accounts of where Barry was that day, reported to the media.
15. LE has not made any statements to anyone who possibly has her, to release her.
16. Other than one 26 second statement, neither Barry nor the family have begged a possible abductor/killer to release her or confess or come forward AND no one has come forward from the family to talk about suzanne.
17. “Oh Suzanne...”.
18. Neither Barry nor the family are in the public eye begging for help from the public. They’re very quiet.
19. LE have not publicly cleared Barry.
20. A Barry sought and obtained a temporary guardianship over Suzanne in their former state of residence and an order selling a property of theirs, without her signature, filing the request 20 days after she disappeared, at a time when he would presumably be despondent and scared of what happened to his missing wife. But he had the wherewithal to speak with and participate in the action in another state, communicating with counsel and signing documents, for likely at least a week or so prior to the June 1st filing date. So we know money was inexplicably important at that time, to him.
21. In six weeks LE has failed to come up with a vehicle description or other description of someone or some vehicle in the area that was seen, that they want to follow up on.
22. Barry failed to issue any public statement until a week after Suzanne disappeared, stating, reportedly, that it was “too soon”.
23. According to the reporter who got his conversation on hidden camera, Barry threatened him if he later found out the guy was a reporter.
24. Barry offered a reward for her safe return, not just for information or to find her.

It’s almost always a combination of factors. Not just one.
This !!! Really well done @gitana1
 
  • #884
However, just because we don’t have clips of the award being publicized, doesn’t mean that word wasn’t disseminated in other forms. I have no doubt, especially from BM’s own words to TD, that BM is NOT a fan of the media. But in Marc Sallinger’s reporting to the True Crime Podcast, he says that the town is literally plastered in flyers. On nearly every window and light pole. I think the local area and perhaps the state was very aware. The family could perhaps think they had the outreach well covered while protecting their privacy at the same time. Whether right or wrong. JMO
But the message needs to be put out to the surrounding states as well. If she was kidnapped, she could be anywhere. Flyers put up locally are not effective enough. IMO
 
  • #885
A wanted felon with several outstanding warrants was just captured by the Chaffee County Tac Team. The 45 year old male from Salida was found in a cabin in Nathrop, 25 minutes north of Salida.
ETA: can’t get the link to work. Check the CCSO blog.
 
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Only two of those are offering rewards for the safe return of their missing loved one. The rest are offering a reward for “information”, from what I saw.

But again, it’s the totality of the circumstances. It’s not one thing that makes people suspicious. It’s a variety, all combined:

1. Statistics- women are most likely to be murdered by a intimate partner.
2. Demographics - Suzanne is not in a high risk category for murder/abduction by a stranger. (Age, race, income, profession, location).
3. The only evidence we know of that Suzanne went on a bike ride on Mother’s Day is the statement by Barry that the neighbor went to check and saw that Suzanne’s car was there but her bike was not.
4. Extensive searches were conducted that found Suzanne’s bike relatively close to home, and a “personal item” that LE won’t disclose to the public or the family (per Barry’s words in the hidden video). But no evidence or trace of Suzanne being there was found, from what we can tell, except those two things.
5. Three days after she disappeared, local LE got the CBI and FBI to be involved in the case.
6. Barry floated multiple scenarios including abduction, wandering off and falling in a stream (or something to that effect), and a lion attack, suggesting one was seen in the area. He seemed stoic and calm when discussing these possibilities.
7. LE started early on that a mountain lion attack was unlikely.
8. Nine days after she went missing, Suzanne’s home with Barry was held, and searched via a sealed search warrant.
9. Three days after that, a work site of a Barry’s was excavated after ground penetrating radar was utilized.
10. LE stated Barry was cooperating and they hoped he would continue to do so.
11. LE has not released any statements or flyers that would indicate they believe SM was riding her bike that day and are thus searching for information from people who may have seen her or her bike or anyone near her on the day in question.
12. However, LE has requested ring camera footage from neighbors for the day she was reported missing AND the days leading up to that date AND FOR TWO DAYS AFTER.
13. Barry didn’t make the 911 call. He asked the neighbor to.
14. There were two, varying accounts of where Barry was that day, reported to the media.
15. LE has not made any statements to anyone who possibly has her, to release her.
16. Other than one 26 second statement, neither Barry nor the family have begged a possible abductor/killer to release her or confess or come forward AND no one has come forward from the family to talk about suzanne.
17. “Oh Suzanne...”.
18. Neither Barry nor the family are in the public eye begging for help from the public. They’re very quiet.
19. LE have not publicly cleared Barry.
20. A Barry sought and obtained a temporary guardianship over Suzanne in their former state of residence and an order selling a property of theirs, without her signature, filing the request 20 days after she disappeared, at a time when he would presumably be despondent and scared of what happened to his missing wife. But he had the wherewithal to speak with and participate in the action in another state, communicating with counsel and signing documents, for likely at least a week or so prior to the June 1st filing date. So we know money was inexplicably important at that time, to him.
21. In six weeks LE has failed to come up with a vehicle description or other description of someone or some vehicle in the area that was seen, that they want to follow up on.
22. Barry failed to issue any public statement until a week after Suzanne disappeared, stating, reportedly, that it was “too soon”.
23. According to the reporter who got his conversation on hidden camera, Barry threatened him if he later found out the guy was a reporter.
24. Barry offered a reward for her safe return, not just for information or to find her.

It’s almost always a combination of factors. Not just one.

This is such a great working list of different pieces to this puzzle!

Adding a few more:

25. LE obtained two separate search warrants to conduct not just one, but a second, search at the home. Obtaining the second search warrant would have almost certainly required compelling evidence in order to convince a judge to sign off on it.
26. "Let me show you what happened."
27. "The wheel was facing…"
28. "The best thing you can do…find something…if you find anything, don't touch it. Take a picture of it."
It never even occurred to BM to express to TD to be on the lookout for SM, who is, ostensibly, the entire focus of the search efforts. He provides TD with no physical description of SM, no clothing description, no offer to show TD a picture of SM, no mention of what TD should do if he discovered SM and she was unconscious or injured, e.g., don't move her, call 911 immediately," etc.
He didn't even address the possibility that TD might actually find SM. There's a logical inference that can be drawn from that.
29. BM asks TD to put his electronic device away when he spies it because, y'know, "we've had a lot of media bother us." BM wants nothing to do with MSM, the fact that media exposure is viewed as an absolute Godsend to most families trying desperately to generate tips and leads from the public re: missing loved ones, notwithstanding.

A picture does indeed begin to take shape when one begins to look at all these different facts.

JMO.
 
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And a staged video plea and a staged reward. What have we found in Barry that IS genuine?

IMO

BBM:

I believe he has a genuine love of money, as evidenced by his actions in the wake of his wife's disappearance.

Unfortunately, "the love of money is the root of all evil."

So there's that.

JMO.
 
  • #889
Only two of those are offering rewards for the safe return of their missing loved one. The rest are offering a reward for “information”, from what I saw.

But again, it’s the totality of the circumstances. It’s not one thing that makes people suspicious. It’s a variety, all combined:

1. Statistics- women are most likely to be murdered by a intimate partner.
2. Demographics - Suzanne is not in a high risk category for murder/abduction by a stranger. (Age, race, income, profession, location).
3. The only evidence we know of that Suzanne went on a bike ride on Mother’s Day is the statement by Barry that the neighbor went to check and saw that Suzanne’s car was there but her bike was not.
4. Extensive searches were conducted that found Suzanne’s bike relatively close to home, and a “personal item” that LE won’t disclose to the public or the family (per Barry’s words in the hidden video). But no evidence or trace of Suzanne being there was found, from what we can tell, except those two things.
5. Three days after she disappeared, local LE got the CBI and FBI to be involved in the case.
6. Barry floated multiple scenarios including abduction, wandering off and falling in a stream (or something to that effect), and a lion attack, suggesting one was seen in the area. He seemed stoic and calm when discussing these possibilities.
7. LE started early on that a mountain lion attack was unlikely.
8. Nine days after she went missing, Suzanne’s home with Barry was held, and searched via a sealed search warrant.
9. Three days after that, a work site of a Barry’s was excavated after ground penetrating radar was utilized.
10. LE stated Barry was cooperating and they hoped he would continue to do so.
11. LE has not released any statements or flyers that would indicate they believe SM was riding her bike that day and are thus searching for information from people who may have seen her or her bike or anyone near her on the day in question.
12. However, LE has requested ring camera footage from neighbors for the day she was reported missing AND the days leading up to that date AND FOR TWO DAYS AFTER.
13. Barry didn’t make the 911 call. He asked the neighbor to.
14. There were two, varying accounts of where Barry was that day, reported to the media.
15. LE has not made any statements to anyone who possibly has her, to release her.
16. Other than one 26 second statement, neither Barry nor the family have begged a possible abductor/killer to release her or confess or come forward AND no one has come forward from the family to talk about suzanne.
17. “Oh Suzanne...”.
18. Neither Barry nor the family are in the public eye begging for help from the public. They’re very quiet.
19. LE have not publicly cleared Barry.
20. A Barry sought and obtained a temporary guardianship over Suzanne in their former state of residence and an order selling a property of theirs, without her signature, filing the request 20 days after she disappeared, at a time when he would presumably be despondent and scared of what happened to his missing wife. But he had the wherewithal to speak with and participate in the action in another state, communicating with counsel and signing documents, for likely at least a week or so prior to the June 1st filing date. So we know money was inexplicably important at that time, to him.
21. In six weeks LE has failed to come up with a vehicle description or other description of someone or some vehicle in the area that was seen, that they want to follow up on.
22. Barry failed to issue any public statement until a week after Suzanne disappeared, stating, reportedly, that it was “too soon”.
23. According to the reporter who got his conversation on hidden camera, Barry threatened him if he later found out the guy was a reporter.
24. Barry offered a reward for her safe return, not just for information or to find her.

It’s almost always a combination of factors. Not just one.

Gitana, Thank You for all that, but it is really the "safe return" aspect I am struggling with why others believe that is hinky. My thought being if he sincerely believes she was abducted, the ultimate goal is to have her returned safely. (So not offering $200G to find out, for example, that she's a gone girl living large in parts unknown, or information about who abducted her ... he just wants her back safe. No questions asked.) Maybe I'm tired but for some reason I am just not seeing the problem with that particular aspect of his video.
 
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BBM:

I believe he has a genuine love of money, as evidenced by his actions in the wake of his wife's disappearance.

Unfortunately, "the love of money is the root of all evil."

So there's that.

JMO.
Yes, thank you for that.

Also, I believe he is genuinely concerned about the prospect of spending the rest of his life in prison.

IMO
 
  • #891
This is such a great working list of different pieces to this puzzle!

Adding a few more:

25. LE obtained two separate search warrants to conduct not just one, but a second, search at the home. Obtaining the second search warrant would have almost certainly required compelling evidence in order to convince a judge to sign off on it.
26. "Let me show you what happened."
27. "The wheel was facing…"
28. "The best thing you can do…find something…if you find anything, don't touch it. Take a picture of it."
It never even occurred to BM to express to TD to be on the lookout for SM, who is, ostensibly, the entire focus of the search efforts. He provides TD with no physical description of SM, no clothing description, no offer to show TD a picture of SM, no mention of what TD should do if he discovered SM and she was unconscious or injured, e.g., don't move her, call 911 immediately," etc.
He didn't even address the possibility that TD might actually find SM. There's a logical inference that can be drawn from that.
29. BM asks TD to put his electronic device away when he spies it because, y'know, "we've had a lot of media bother us." BM wants nothing to do with MSM, the fact that media exposure is viewed as an absolute Godsend to most families trying desperately to generate tips and leads from the public re: missing loved ones, notwithstanding.

A picture does indeed begin to take shape when one begins to look at all these different facts.

JMO.

I’ve added those to the list on my computer.
 
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Gitana, Thank You for all that, but it is really the "safe return" aspect I am struggling with why others believe that is hinky. My thought being if he sincerely believes she was abducted, the ultimate goal is to have her returned safely. (So not offering $200G to find out, for example, that she's a gone girl living large in parts unknown, or information about who abducted her ... he just wants her back safe. No questions asked.) Maybe I'm tired but for some reason I am just not seeing the problem with that particular aspect of his video.

Yes. My point is that we can’t look at the “safe return” in a vacuum. We have to look at it in context.

Most loved ones post rewards for information or to find the person. Not just their “safe return”. But in its own, that’s not hinky. It’s in context, combined with everything else, that makes it possibly have a bit of significance.

Because if someone finds the missing person of a loved one who has posted a reward for their safe return, but they missing person is dead, the loved one isn’t out any money. If they know that the missing person is dead, when they post the return, they don’t have to worry about themselves being out money they could use for defense counsel, or give to their family.

Again, on its own it’s a bit meaningless. But combined with other things it could be a little noteworthy.

I look for pieces that create a bigger picture.
 
  • #894
I’ve added those to the list on my computer.
LE can literally cut and paste a lot of those items into their arrest warrant! :)
 
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  • #896
FTA and FOJ??? Does that mean Failure to Appear? Fugitive of Justice??? Can anyone find out what he did?? TIA
Firearms, burglary, an illegal grow operation. Not sure what else.
 
  • #897
DBM
I forgot
Not a POI
 
  • #898
Firearms, burglary, an illegal grow operation. Not sure what else.
Thx! I can’t read the full article without subscription. An illegal grow operation? Marijuana? Interesting...
 
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Gitana, Thank You for all that, but it is really the "safe return" aspect I am struggling with why others believe that is hinky. My thought being if he sincerely believes she was abducted, the ultimate goal is to have her returned safely. (So not offering $200G to find out, for example, that she's a gone girl living large in parts unknown, or information about who abducted her ... he just wants her back safe. No questions asked.) Maybe I'm tired but for some reason I am just not seeing the problem with that particular aspect of his video.
Personally, I am not making an issue of BM using the word ‘safe’ in his video. If you suspect BM of being responsible for her disappearance, what difference does it make if he used the word ‘safe’? It was just a word in a speech he gave, possibly put together hurriedly. I don’t see the significance in using this word in his speech or not using it, even if you believe he is completely innocent. That’s just my take on it.
 
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