Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #25

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  • #301
JMO
I personally love revolvers because I feel they are a little safer in some ways. I like a double-action revolver (not a single-action revolver) which allows me to either 🤬🤬🤬🤬 back the hammer and take careful aim before firing OR if I want to quickly fire away at like a murderer attacking me, then I can keep squeezing the trigger over and over again until all shells fired. I love revolvers and my favorite is my .357 S+W for home protection and Taurus makes a smaller .380 revolver that would do well for conceal-carry.

I will say though, when lots of practice with Semi-autos, they become nice as well and lots (if not most) people prefer a Semi-Auto for protection. To me, I just dont practice enough regularly to feel as comfortable as I do with my revolver .357 S+W.

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Thank you.
If firing .38 S+W revolver and it seems to require more strength than able to pull the trigger, is there a solution other than go the automatic handgun route -- which I perceive very easy to fire?
 
  • #302
Where do the casings go? Into the handle? I can see that being marketed to ladies.
With my older Ladysmith revolver it is made for women because it was smaller and it has a snub nose so it can fit easily in a purse or vehicle compartment and it was very lightweight and easy to fire. It holds only 5 bullets though and after you finish shooting you push the whole cylinder down to empty the casings. I am not a gun expert but I learned how to safely use and care for the two guns I own for protection. My husband will not be disappearing me without a fair fight! Just kidding ya’ll. :D Well sorta...but he bought them for me so he knows! :rolleyes:
 
  • #303
No, but that’s what got me thinking. Many on this site think that LE has known about the 5/9 texting from the beginning. As in, this friend would have reached out to them immediately after SM’s disappearance. So what do they have that is “later” than that.
IMO, nothing.

Again, JMO but the abrupt termination of that communication (mid-evening) likely means something happened to Suzanne at that time.
 
  • #304
No, but that’s what got me thinking. Many on this site think that LE has known about the 5/9 texting from the beginning. As in, this friend would have reached out to them immediately after SM’s disappearance. So what do they have that is “later” than that.

Yes, surely LE would have been aware of the 09MAY20 texts very early on in the investigation. Thus in early July when CBI indicated that the last known contact with the missing person was later than they originally thought, at the very least it would have been after these texts. Or after the spouse last claimed to see her at 0500 on 10MAY20.

Either way it creates some real time line issues to figure out...IMO.
 
  • #305
Yeah, I think it's significant if the ring was found in the home and she normally did not remove it for a bike ride. When we discussed this earlier some people said they removed their rings (because of the gloves worn when riding) and others said they didn't. So it depends on what was normal for her.
I’d bet she didn’t wear them. Large rings and gloves don’t mix well. I honestly don’t see how people wear rings when exercising. I’m a competitive tennis player, and the thought of wearing mine gives me claustrophobia. Hands swell or a finger can get jammed. No thanks. But about 10% of other players I come up against do have theirs on.
 
  • #306
I'll add something to your thoughts on that, I feel the same way.

I'm very curious why two people who were reportedly very close to BM, one who spoke out for him initially, are silent?

Trevor Noel, BM's nephew was very vocal. Soon after he went silent and removed himself from the gimme fund, crickets ...

George Davis, BM's close friend (and partner on the construction job) who he had to communicate through when LE took his cell phone. Nothing from him vouching for his good buddy?

I don't know why they are silent but if any of these "close individuals" are privy to exonerating evidence that would support BM's timeline and innocence, I seem to recall they are usually silent as they are likely to be called as witnesses for their friend. I think the same defense attorney that tells their client to keep quiet, tells the same to his witnesses. MOO

ETA: I must say that I think nephew TN is probably the exception. I believe he had a change of heart. He became very emotional during his last, final contact with the media.
 
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I'll add something to your thoughts on that, I feel the same way.

I'm very curious why two people who were reportedly very close to BM, one who spoke out for him initially, are silent?

Trevor Noel, BM's nephew was very vocal. Soon after he went silent and removed himself from the gimme fund, crickets ...

George Davis, BM's close friend (and partner on the construction job) who he had to communicate through when LE took his cell phone. Nothing from him vouching for his good buddy?
Right! I’d like to know the reason for all of the silence from everyone.
 
  • #308
Here’s the missing persons flyer that investigators were distributing yesterday.
I know nothing but its interesting to me that they gave SM's exact birthdate and not her age. I don't know about y'all but when I look at a person its difficult for me to figure out his/her birthdate. ;-)

Edit: I didn't even notice she was wearing jewelry in the pictures. I read about in approximately 100 different posts. Shows what I know. As stated: nothing.
 
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I think people around this horrifying situation are all silent because they’re cringing waiting for the other shoe to drop...
I’m surprised to check in and not see an arrest yet mooo
Hope they’re working with plenty of evidence!
Justice for Suzanne!!!
 
  • #310
I noted way back, 100 threads ago, that diamond surely has a serial number that is recorded in more than one place. Would be very interesting if it turned up for sale.

ETA: @OldCop , would a serial number for a diamond generally worn on thefinger of a person who is missing be put on some sort of list? Would there be an alert out for it?
Only diamonds that are certified by the Gemological Institute of America will have lasered serial numbers. I don’t know the laws for Pawn Shops in all states, but generally they are required to get an ID from the seller when purchasing merchandise or taking in pawn and they must provide a full description of the merchandise including any serial numbers to law enforcement upon request. I think in a case like this, LE would be working first on the item description. Of course a diamond can be removed from it’s setting.
Also, unless BM provides LE with the GIA report on SM’s ring or LE is able to obtain a copy from the place of purchase, they won’t know what the serial number is on the ring. If LE obtains a diamond that they believe might be SM’s, they can take it to a certified gemologist to obtain the number. Some larger departments, state, and federal labs have their own gemologists. Many larger police departments have separate pawn units that work with local pawn shops because that’s where thieves will bring their stolen goods. Some shops are much less reputable than others, while many are fully legitimate.
 
  • #311
Thank you.
If firing .38 S+W revolver and it seems to require more strength than able to pull the trigger, is there a solution other than go the automatic handgun route -- which I perceive very easy to fire?

Good question and IMO I think that is why I tend to feel revolvers feel a little safer to me because I have to really be intending to fire it with a pro-active pull of the trigger, whereas with a semi-auto with 1 already in the chamber and cocked, the trigger pull can seem a little too easy for me sometimes.

A good reputable gunsmith may be able to lighten the trigger pull for you, but if you are like me, I tend to not want anyone fooling with factory issued weapons. So if it seems too hard to pull to be accurate with it, then a Semi-auto may be the way to go.

With the double-action revolver, if you 🤬🤬🤬🤬 the hammer back before firing, the trigger pull will seem much lighter and you can get very accurate that way for one shot at a time, but of course if having to fire multiple shots in a row by trigger alone, then its back to the harder trigger pull.

Overall, most gunshop owners will tell their customers that you need to feel comfortable with your weapon so it really does become a personal choice to whatever feels best and most comfortable to you is probably the best.
 
  • #312
I forget who originally mentioned this but the jewelry (wedding ring and necklace) being something found in the concrete dig is very intriguing.

If SM was murdered and the perp planted the bike and perhaps a helmet or biking clothes to send LE in another direction. They would still need to eliminate the things Susan would always have on her person (since clothing has already been covered). So that leaves a body and what else? A wedding ring seems likely. A necklace also seems likely, especially if that necklace had major significance and she never took it off. (Like a gift to commentate the birth of a child or beating cancer or it belonged to her late mother)

And you wouldn’t want to leave those items on a body as it would help with ID if the body is found.

It seems careless to try to hide a body under your work site but maybe not as careless to put some jewelry under the dirt when you know just 36 hours later concrete was going to be poured.

That might explain the sifting. And if anything was found, it couldn’t immediately be connected to SM since LE would have to do their due diligence, hence how they worded their press release at the time.

Anyway, just expounding on that theory that someone else started. I think it’s pretty brilliant.

Bike & Accessories in one general area to paint a fake picture.

Jewelry or any other critical on body items at the dig site.

Murder weapon some place else (river?)

Hide body in remote wilderness of CO with Alibi that allows for travel 2-3 hours away.

This is all speculation but based on new info regarding time frames, and prior info we’ve had, a potential picture is starting to make sense.

When TD told people that BM was shirtless and all wet that one day, do you think BM was checking to make sure the hidden weapon was still where BM left it in the river?
(Moving water tends to relocate things.)

Do you think BM had just then finished hiding a weapon in the water, previous to TD witnessing a wet, shirtless BM?

Do you think LE have used underwater metal detectors where wet, shirtless BM was seen by TD?

I am thankful for LE and all of their efforts to bring home justice for Suzanne.
IMHO
 
  • #313
I know nothing but its interesting to me that they gave SM's exact birthdate and not her age. I don't know about y'all but when I look at a person its difficult for me to figure out his/her birthdate. ;-)
Also, I honestly thought it was a little weird that her maiden name wasn’t used instead of her middle name. A maiden name would be identifiable for anyone who knew her growing up. A middle name is pretty useless. Unless her drivers license or passport is officially listed with the middle name, in which case the flyer would be consistent.
 
  • #314
Gotcha. I'm guessing it would not be easy to reload with another 10 bullets. We ladies may not be the only ones who prefer not to leave casings (not that I think a gun was used in this case - there's no evidence, I was just thinking about it).
Oh hi @10ofRods! I had just answered too about the casings then started reading backwards to catch up and just saw some of these posts. I want to add one more thing about casings. If a gun is used to commit a murder and any of the ejected casings are found at the crime scene, I’m pretty sure (and @OldCop please correct me if I’m off base) LE has a way to match casings with the exact gun the bullet(s) were fired from. Every gun makes a different pattern of scrapes on the bullet casing when it’s fired sort of like a fingerprint. So, hypothetically, if BM shot Suzanne and there is no body but they found her blood in the home and they found a bullet casing(s) when they were sifting through the dirt at the dig site, LE could seize all of BM’s guns and see if the casing was fired from one of them. That’s why I thought the rumor about the gun being reported stolen was intriguing. But I have no link nor do I remember where I heard it so unless someone has a MSM link let’s not discuss an alleged potentially reported stolen or missing gun by the husband with an allegedly abducted and missing wife. :rolleyes:
 
  • #315
But that wouldn't have triggered an intensive 3 day long search of the area surrounding the bike.

Further, all LE focus would have been directly on the house, and if in fact security cameras weren't working and if in fact BM didn't let them into the house (because...it would be the only place for LE to look for clues at that point), bigger red flag.

Murderers typically try to point away from themselves when they use staging. And that is the primary and most important reason for the bike (if it's staging). It works sometimes.
I hear you and agree. But devil’s advocate positing here. I believe the house was going to get the once-over no matter what. And it sure did. I think you open yourself up to more risk by venturing out in public to stage a bike.
 
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BBM:

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This isn't the first time they've passed out fliers, either.
It's simply the most recent instance of their having done so.
I can't imagine why anyone would take issue with their continuing to reach out to the community this way.

In point of fact, there are any number of reasons why LE might have distributed those particular fliers yesterday.
Personally, I think the intention of those fliers is more about sending a message to the perp than they are about trying to solicit information from the public.

It was a brilliant strategic move, regardless of whether or not those most recent fliers generate any new tips.

JMO.
ITA. First of all, many of us here on WS hop on this thread daily. We think of SM often. We wonder what happened to her and who is responsible. However, many in the general public never heard of SM or know anything about her disappearance. This became quite apparent when TD tried to do some street interviews in Salida. A lot of people didn’t even know what he was talking about.
Also, SM disappeared on MD. The weather is getting warmer and people are more apt to come down for the weekend to enjoy their second homes or their favorite getaway spot. They may have left before news of SM’s disappearance even broke. Now they are back again and see the new posters and see LE talking to folks. They could have a moment of remembrance: Hey, that was the weekend when we were here. Remember the ________ we saw?
And to your second point @GordianKnot, it could definitely be a great strategic move. Whoever is responsible for disappearing SM must hate this! Every time things settle down and they begin to relax a little, along comes LE stirring things all up again. What a nerve!
 
  • #318
When TD told people that BM was shirtless and all wet that one day, do you think BM was checking to make sure the hidden weapon was still where BM left it in the river?
(Moving water tends to relocate things.)

Do you think BM had just then finished hiding a weapon in the water, previous to TD witnessing a wet, shirtless BM?

Do you think LE have used underwater metal detectors where wet, shirtless BM was seen by TD?

I am thankful for LE and all of their efforts to bring home justice for Suzanne.
IMHO

I don't believe so because the date he was seen wet and shirtless was about the first of June. That's too long to be holding on to any weapon when he's subject to another search warrant at any time. By the time BM was seen wet and wild, I think his friends had gone home, and BM was growing weary of going through the motions of "searching" for SM. He couldn't stay home because his momma and children expected him to be out shaking the bushes and the trees. I think it's possible he tried to cross the creek which was running high and fast and he fell in. Happens all the time. BM was also too close to home to be disposing of a weapon-- given all the open spaces in Colorado.
 
  • #319
Agreed.
Maybe LE want to know if it was pawned ? :eek:
Maybe LE wants to see if anyone reports a certain female walking around with any of this jewelry. :cool:
 
  • #320
I’d bet she didn’t wear them. Large rings and gloves don’t mix well. I honestly don’t see how people wear rings when exercising. I’m a competitive tennis player, and the thought of wearing mine gives me claustrophobia. Hands swell or a finger can get jammed. No thanks. But about 10% of other players I come up against do have theirs on.

That’s so cool! Wish I could play even non-competitive tennis. :cool: ITA wearing jewelry, especially rings, while doing sports or exercise just feels yucky to me. You get it all sweaty and dirty and like you said your finger can swell and also you could damage the setting and lose the diamond(s) or scratch up the gold, silver or platinum in the band. As a Neonatal ICU RN we were not allowed to wear rings or watches because they can harbor bacteria so maybe I’m too germaphobic when it comes to getting nice jewelry dirty. But the biggest deterrent for me not wearing jewelry to workout was when my poor BIL was playing volleyball and got his wedding band caught on a pole in a freak accident while spiking a ball and it literally tore his ring finger off down to the bone! :(
 
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