Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #25

[Poedelini]

Respectfully, the issue that was raised was about credibility: does an anonymous reporter have as much credibility as one who does not remain anonymous. I indicated my opinion and my reasoning -- reasoning which I've used in court -- as to why a known informant is more credible than an anonymous one.

In court is so different than in public. I feel like its appels with oranges. Jmo

 

[Love Never Fails]

Off topic for a moment. Those of you who enjoy Profiling Evil and are following the Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow case, PE guys just posted a video this afternoon with a Dr. Salermo, discussing all the deaths in this case and the causes, etc. Very good video. And the guys were very interesting too. Interesting that Dr. Salermo has the same thoughts as many of our excellent sleuthers.

 

[lamlawindy]

I find it stunning that you link risk with credibility. Jmo

In terms of reporting criminal activity or the possibility thereof, there certainly is a link. That's why courts differentiate between citizen informants who provide face-to-face communication with police officers and those who anonymously call in a possible crime. The possibility of being charged with false informing if the tip is false gives the report credibility: the citizen informant is risking a criminal charge if s/he is reporting falsely.

 

[Truecolors]

I don't disagree but why so far away and on the highway? I've been leaning toward not staged due to the distance from the bike and not being on the bike trail itself. Love to hear your thoughts.

RSBM

The item was reportedly found just west of highway 50 and 225. That would point toward an abductor driving west on 50. If staged, it could be an attempt to lead investigators to look west ....while the perp possibly traveled east. “Look over here.”

 

[Ashildir]

I am wondering about the photographs of SM in the new flyers - who is most likely to have picked them out to be used - LE, SM's family or BM?

 

[Seattle1]

Respectfully, the issue that was raised was about credibility: does an anonymous reporter have as much credibility as one who does not remain anonymous. I indicated my opinion and my reasoning -- reasoning which I've used in court -- as to why a known informant is more credible than an anonymous one.

My answer would be that it's determined on a case by case basis. I would not marry risk with credibility, and I think you've done that with your blanket statement. I think there's room for a protected class not to have their credibility, or their integrity for that matter, discounted. That would have been my counter-argument if I was opposing you. Just sayin...

 

[RickshawFan]

Interesting theory...maybe he asked someone else to stage it? He would have had to be in Denver when the calls started wouldn’t he?

Do we have evidence that he was actually in Denver when he called the neighbor to check? He could have been back from Denver already, or nearby. Maybe in Denver the night before (e.g. to dispose of a body), and was back the next morning?
If BM felt compelled to give a "fake alibi" for 5 am at home when he said goodbye to SM, maybe he was actually in Denver at that particular moment? And then drove back, and then called the neighbor when he was nearby.
Now that I've thrown a bomb into all (our) assumptions with my 2-car theory (one being SM's) and how the bike story came about....
He tells the neighbor that cockamamie story about SM and the bike ride and follows it up by staging the bike. He could have just told the neighbor SM was picked up by a friend, or SOMETHING. But he went with the bike ride story.
Do we know what time he made contact with the neighbor? And he had time to plant the bike before it was "discovered"?
He soooooo wasn't in Denver that Mother's Day morning IMO.
Let's see, Speculative scenario #1....Saturday evening, he kills his wife, cleans up and (e.g. hides her somewhere). Later that evening or early morning Mother's Day, he drives to Denver. Maybe even gets a hotel room. Pretends he's in Denver, but actually comes back to Salida to continue cleaning, etc. Does the check up call to the neighbor to add to his fake story... Randomly comes up with the "she goes for bike rides on Sundays" motif (another myth would have worked just as well), and then stages a bike, since that's the story he committed to. Now, we're at about early afternoon on Mother's Day. BM drives back to Denver, stays in the motel he booked, and organizes for his job the next day.
Speculative scenario #2.... All the same, but he is only in Denver the afternoon and night of Mother's Day. He was otherwise in the house cleaning up or disposing of the body. Like #1, he called the neighbor as though he was in Denver, but actually was in the Salida area.

 

[RickshawFan]

Interesting theory...maybe he asked someone else to stage it? He would have had to be in Denver when the calls started wouldn’t he?

Can we test out the idea that he wasn't in Denver when he made that call? That he went to Denver later, or earlier AND later (i.e. 2 trips)?
What evidence do we have other than his say-so that he was in Denver when he made that call?

 

[lamlawindy]

My answer would be that it's determined on a case by case basis. I would not marry risk with credibility, and I think you've done that with your blanket statement. I think there's room for a protected class not to have their credibility, or their integrity for that matter, discounted. That would have been my counter-argument if I was opposing you. Just sayin...

Of course! And risk is but one factor to be considered, though I do believe that it's an important one

 

[Cindizzi]

Dr. Phil
@DrPhil

If you have seen any Erika Lloyd, Cecilia Huerta Gallegos, Suzanne Morphew, Natalie Jones, or Sandra Crispo or have any information about them, please call the local authorities.

https://twitter.com/drphil/status/1293985764255072256?s=21

 

[lamlawindy]

The way SM’s text conversation ended abruptly makes me wonder if it was related in any way to her disappearance. Husband and wife home alone, maybe she was talking to him about plans to travel to IN for the wedding. Could that start a fight? Jealousy related to her traveling to IN? Jealousy of her bond with IN friends? It was reportedly his idea to move from IN. Did he feel pressured to travel back and face people he didn’t want to see? Feel she was being disloyal in some way?

All speculation. MOO

Definitely possible, but do we know for sure that the wedding was in Indiana?

 

[Seattle1]

Can we test out the idea that he wasn't in Denver when he made that call? That he went to Denver later, or earlier AND later (i.e. 2 trips)?
What evidence do we have other than his say-so that he was in Denver when he made that call?

We have zero evidence that BM was in Denver other than his word. Most recently, it's been alleged that BM's vehicle GPS data is not consistent with information BM told police so I guess there's that.

 

[RickshawFan]

My post made me want to go back to an older DailyMail article because I thought I remembered a picture of a car in the M’s driveway with a bike rack on it.

article: Police search and carry out evidence bags from the $1.5M home of missing Colorado mom | Daily Mail Online

Pic attached to post.

My thoughts don’t prove anything but I thought they were interesting.

-it appears that there is a suburb outback with a trailer hitch bike rack
-There are two bikes on it. (One has red grips, the other is a baby blue mountain bike)
-Suburu outbacks do have gps tracking
-It’s rumored that SM’s bike is baby blue
-Its very hard to see but there might be damage to the front tire/fork/hub/brake. What leads me to believe that there might be damage is that the brake rotor does not look centered to where it should be on the wheel.
-Oddly enough, it looks like there is a Dasani or some type of packaged water bottle in the holder. This would not be common for a mountain biker, they’d use one of those bike water bottles that holds tightly into the bottle holder
-I wish there was a better pic angle so we could see that suburu’s license plate and a better shot of the bikes.
-I’m also curious about a second bike being on that rack.
-Would any aspect of that Suburu being in the driveway tie to PE’s assertion of two cars being a red flag?

Upthread somewhere (like way back) we generated ideas about that bike brand, model, size, etc.
IMO If the photo of that bike on that car was taken after Mother's Day, and the bike is supposed to belong to SM...... I don't think we have a theory for how that could come about. How about.... the bike that was staged wasn't the baby blue one? And the baby blue one is still intact?
LE must have the staged bike, surely? We wouldn't expect to see it after Mother's Day on the back of a car, damaged or not. IMO

The thing is, the bike on that car could belong to someone else in the family, like a daughter.

 

[Warwick7]

IMO media anonymity when LE has your phone and your truck is vastly different than victim anonymity when FEAR of reprisal may be involved. If what they FEAR is true, there's no limit to what the guilty person might do. Based on what they've ALREADY done.

When is it EVER too soon to issue a statement about your missing wife? Pretty sure I know when it's too late... sadly.

JMOJMOJMO

Bam!!!

 

[RickshawFan]

You are impressively observant, EggSalad. Which made me wonder about enhancing photos. Sometimes I apply various filters using different creative photo apps to improve photos, but does anyone have a recommendation for a good app for enhancing photo resolution or detail?

The problem is, if BM staged SM's bike, it can't also be on the back of that car on the day the photo was taken.

 

[Sillybilly]

Remind me again of who the mistress is?

Just jumping off your post Minordetails ...

There is no known fact via MSM to substantiate speculation about a mistress.

Please move on from that discussion.

 

[Megnut]

The problem is, if BM staged SM's bike, it can't also be on the back of that car on the day the photo was taken.

Unless the bike in the ravine wasn't actually Suzanne's bike. Hence LE's refusal to speak to it. What if that IS Suzanne's bike, on the back of the vehicle which traveled to Idaho? What if ANOTHER bike remained behind, an inoperable one, one awaiting repair?

Imagine if LE said, "we've recovered TWO bikes." Our minds would've been blown. What if they told BM, "we believe someone staged a bike ride. It's problematic for us because what we found wasn't her bike and it was inoperable...." if any campers were aware of which bikes were where and in what condition, a story would've come apart IMMEDIATELY.

Note to self: if I ever need to sell a bike story, self, check to see if bike works.

If Suzanne's helmet was recovered, I REALLY want to know if it was BUCKLED or not!!!

Just some of my hinky thoughts

 

[RickshawFan]

One more interesting coincidence (nothing more) is that it would be unusual for a regular mountain biker to carry a Dasani (or similar) bottle of water on a bike ride. They’d almost certainly use a bike water bottle that fits snuggly into a water bottle cage.

Snipped for focus.
Yes, there was that single-use water bottle in the water bottle cage, but...
1. SM evidently used a Camelbak
2. It would be impossible to retrieve that water bottle while riding IMO. The frame triangle is too tight right there. Ergo, we can't assume that the bottle on that bike on that car was for riding.
But... that bike on the back of the car also couldn't have been the staged bike.

 

[RickshawFan]

I did not have an opinion on the note until I saw the DM photo depicting a "baby blue" bike which is a distinctive bike color, and why I don't think BM was describing the helmet color.
I also think the double space before "Biking clothing" could be that the clothes were an afterthought as he was talking to the store clerk. BM allegedly told the clerk his daughter was making missing person posters that were not ready, and he wanted to know if SM had been seen i.e., she was riding a baby blue bike, wearing a helmet, and biking clothes. Or he may have been asked what SM was wearing and added the clothes description. MOO

ETA: Reviewed the note again and noticed capitalized "h" in Helmet.

Baby Blue Bike
Helmet

Biking clothing

I would venture to bet that SM had matching bike frame and helmet, so IMO parsing this out might not mean a whole lot.

 

[Seattle1]

I would venture to bet that SM had matching bike frame and helmet, so IMO parsing this out might not mean a whole lot.

She doesn't. We've seen her bike helmet and it's turquoise or teal, not baby blue like the bike frame.