Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #38

[Moonchime]

Barry is such a class act.

Yes, he is. Funny, I read your post like this:
Barry is such a crass act. lol

 

[Lilypad13]

Don't be surprised if suddenly the searchers are "planting" things to frame BM, the forever victim.

Hopefully whatever they found was photographed and documented properly and LE called to retrieve it. And the searchers are in groups. But I get what you are saying for sure!

I'm not saying that he is, but he is acting like a meth head. Or maybe he's just eat up with arrogance. Anyway, how in the world did Suzanne put up with that creature. Moo of course

I’m not saying he is on meth but if he is on any drug/steroids or even too much alcohol that doesn’t mix well with guns! He seems to have poor judgment and impulse control already. Dangerous man IMO.

 

[Seni]

I'm curious as to the discussion as to why a person who carried a shotgun on over his shoulder and not pointed it at anyone would review an application for a search warrant with "great interest".

I'm not following as I thought was legal. Is there something I'm missing here... trying to catch up and 3-4 pages behind.

Can someone explain?

It may be legal but could also be seen as threatening behaviour.

 

[skystarr]

Just curious. Is there anyone here that has considered this case a MFH ??

 

[NuttMegg]

My ears perked up when AM said there was “a particular peak to focus on”

Im curious about what Mike is doing up there, apparently on a peak in his golfcart/atv. Must be camping up there, and maybe in charge of the mines? I hope someone supplies that camera outfit, they were saying some mines are 600 ft deep. I couldn't figure out if he is really in CO, he said something about doing high tech relays with the west coast? Did I get that right? Something like that?

Eta maybe it was a jeep.....

 

[303gmf]

Closer to home either north or south of Hwy 50 has quite a few, Pahome Peak looks closer to house but many between there and top of Monarch Pass

 

[Puzzles8]

That would prove difficult, but I don’t think that’s what happened. They have a window of time in which Suzanne was likely dumped, and it is only 3.5 hours.

Even if that window proves false, I just don’t think he had that kind of time. I don’t think this was well planned, and I think it’s probable that he went with what he knew:

The vast expanse of unforgiving Colorado terrain.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she wasn’t even put in a shallow grave, but was dumped above ground.

And if that happened, sadly a wild animal has probably disturbed her remains.

 

[MassGuy]

Just curious. Is there anyone here that has considered this case a MFH ??

I’ve never liked a murder for hire here.

The point of hiring someone is so you have an alibi. BM’s alibi is not only weak, but it’s laughable.

Contract killers don’t stage a scene like this, and don’t typically remove bodies.

 

[Cassady]

Kind of a wild tweet by Denver 7 reporter .

Searchers find something suspicious and start digging in the hills west of Salida. They’re looking for evidence of a missing woman, Suzanne Morphew. Didn’t find what they were looking for!

https://twitter.com/lancehernandez7/status/1309193497535283201?s=21

This is exactly what LE does not want to see if searchers discovery anything. I guess they missed the brother of the missing person telling people prior to the search to not to disturb any potential evidence?

Or perhaps they were digging a latrine?

 

[MsBetsy]

@MassGuy...I've been wanting to ask you. Some ppl seem to think maybe BM put her in concrete and then put THAT "bundle" in a concrete burial of sorts. If he did that, would she ever be found? And if so, how?

They might be able to find her if they knew the location and used GPR to detect a body inside the concrete. They already did that in the search at the beach site but apparently found no evidence there. Imo

 

[lonetraveler]

Just curious. Is there anyone here that has considered this case a MFH ??

MFH????

Never mind, murder for hire, right?

 

[lonetraveler]

Just curious. Is there anyone here that has considered this case a MFH ??

I don't. I think Barry committed the act himself.

 

[10ofRods]

A person exercising his right to keep others off of his property hardly constitutes probable cause to believe that criminal activity is afoot.

However, a pattern of impulsive, threatening behavior does. Maybe you’ve missed some of the context here.

At any rate, my work is in behavioral science and my sense of this is that BM seems increasingly unpredictable.

Have you listened to all the vocalizations from him that we have availability? Combine that with his actions and you tell me - as a lay person (I’m a psychiatric anthropologist, specializing in epidemiology and field diagnostics/methods)...do you think BM comes across as an innocent man, with good relationships with others?

His wife is missing. His comrade MG says he was acting weird that weekend. Now his wife’s brother - his (former?) family member organizes a search which, instead of joining in, he disrupts with trail cams and comes bearing a shotgun.

He puts an elk head (with flesh) next to his house sometime around the same weekend - is this the behavior of a cautious man?

At least they found what appears to be a place where lions drag their kills today and the forensic people can take a look (Suzanne isn’t there is my bet).

And tomorrow, the drones fly.

I have more than 30 years experience interviewing and studying both the convicted and the non-convicted and I say that this situation is making BM feel upset and anxious. His response is to show up at the edge of his property with a shotgun.

Neither you nor I is a judge - but the one judge we have here on this thread said that they think a judge would find this very interesting. Provocative, even

Every judge I know would be keenly interested (but I’m in California where, of course, we do tend to err on the side of judicial caution - or at least we used to until very recently).

The fact is, neither you nor I knows what a local judge will find to be probable cause for the fourth known search warrant in this case - if it comes.

Time seems ripe for another one, if you ask me. Especially as BM has another place to live - he doesn’t have to be there and no one trespassed.

Why the trail cams?? What’s he afraid of?

More important, why isn’t he out there doing exactly what the searchers are doing? I’ve said all along that finding the mountain lion’s feeding grounds/den area is crucial here - to ruling in/out what happened.

It’s obviously possible and took only one day, with dedicated, organized people. What happened to the money raised for BM & family for searching? Why did AM have to raise other funds to do this search?

While misappropriation of donated money may not be a crime (although it can be, can’t it?), it’s just another red flag in this case.

Judges do act on red flags. All.the.time.

 

[10ofRods]

And if that happened, sadly a wild animal has probably disturbed her remains.

True - but that might bring them to light.

(Forensic anthropologists can tell whether the gnaw marks were pre or post death and approximately how long after death they occurred - and which animal it was).

 

[TKG]

Does anyone have information regarding LS's absence at the search? I have read speculation but understand it was posted on Fox21's SM page yesterday.

ETA: I sent her a DM on Twitter and she has not responded, also very unlike her...

 

[10ofRods]

This is exactly what LE does not want to see if searchers discovery anything. I guess they missed the brother of the missing person telling people prior to the search to not to disturb any potential evidence?

Or perhaps they were digging a latrine?

I don’t think discovering dirt is the same as discovering evidence.

These people have common sense. They are looking for something - organic or inorganic. They aren’t just looking for dirt. If they find something in the dirt, they will do exactly as asked by LE.

IMO.

They’ll take a picture and do what they did all day - upload it with its GPS coordinates. Indeed, it would be wise to send a dog or other sensor to that exact spot, even if all they did was test to what extent the ground seemed disturbed/crumbly.

 

[TKG]

However, a pattern of impulsive, threatening behavior does. Maybe you’ve missed some of the context here.

At any rate, my work is in behavioral science and my sense of this is that BM seems increasingly unpredictable.

Have you listened to all the vocalizations from him that we have availability? Combine that with his actions and you tell me - as a lay person (I’m a psychiatric anthropologist, specializing in epidemiology and field diagnostics/methods)...do you think BM comes across as an innocent man, with good relationships with others?

His wife is missing. His comrade MG says he was acting weird that weekend. Now his wife’s brother - his (former?) family member organizes a search which, instead of joining in, he disrupts with trail cams and comes bearing a shotgun.

He puts an elk head (with flesh) next to his house sometime around the same weekend - is this the behavior of a cautious man?

At least they found what appears to be a place where lions drag their kills today and the forensic people can take a look (Suzanne isn’t there is my bet).

And tomorrow, the drones fly.

I have more than 30 years experience interviewing and studying both the convicted and the non-convicted and I say that this situation is making BM feel upset and anxious. His response is to show up at the edge of his property with a shotgun.

Neither you nor I is a judge - but the one judge we have here on this thread said that they think a judge would find this very interesting. Provocative, even

Every judge I know would be keenly interested (but I’m in California where, of course, we do tend to err on the side of judicial caution - or at least we used to until very recently).

The fact is, neither you nor I knows what a local judge will find to be probable cause for the fourth known search warrant in this case - if it comes.

Time seems ripe for another one, if you ask me. Especially as BM has another place to live - he doesn’t have to be there and no one trespassed.

Why the trail cams?? What’s he afraid of?

More important, why isn’t he out there doing exactly what the searchers are doing? I’ve said all along that finding the mountain lion’s feeding grounds/den area is crucial here - to ruling in/out what happened.

It’s obviously possible and took only one day, with dedicated, organized people. What happened to the money raised for BM & family for searching? Why did AM have to raise other funds to do this search?

While misappropriation of donated money may not be a crime (although it can be, can’t it?), it’s just another red flag in this case.

Judges do act on red flags. All.the.time.

YES x 1000!

ETA: Thank you @10ofRods for articulating that so well. I have struggled this evening to write anything coherent!

 

[Hatch]

MFH????

Never mind, murder for hire, right?

Or Master Fox Hunt

 

[10ofRods]

I'm curious as to the discussion as to why a person who carried a shotgun on over his shoulder and not pointed it at anyone would review an application for a search warrant with "great interest".

I'm not following as I thought was legal. Is there something I'm missing here... trying to catch up and 3-4 pages behind.

Can someone explain?

I’m not a judge, but see my post above. It’s not just the one thing.

In all the pre-arrest hearings and conversations I’ve seen/heard, LE and DA give the judge the complete context - and let them decide. That’s how it works.

BM has moved out of the house. BM didn’t organize a search. BM is impeding the search. BM didn’t volunteer to allow searchers on his property. BM didn’t volunteer to search. (Then go into the various other things they have regarding the timeline).

If I get pulled over and I reach into my glove compartment, in most states, LE then has probable cause to look inside my glove compartment (even if I did nothing illegal and all I was doing was looking for my reading glasses).

Which is why all the LE that I’ve ever known say that even they (policemen) are certain to have their DL, car registration and anything else they may need (glasses) right next to themselves in the car, in plain view (like on the visor).

I don’t know about you, but if it seems that SM must be within about 1.5-2 hours or less from her home, and if someone close to her would not allow a search of an area within that acreage, I’d look at the matter very carefully.

I think the drone footage needs to be reviewed first, myself. I don’t think the searchers are going to find anything at all in that area north and northwest of the house...BM himself signaled that he’s uneasy about them coming on his property, day or night.

Why? If the police come to my door and I slam the door in their face, well - I would be very worried about what would happen next.

 

[MsBetsy]

Does anyone have information regarding LS's absence at the search? I have read speculation but understand it was posted on Fox21's SM page yesterday.

ETA: I sent her a DM on Twitter and she has not responded, also very unlike her...

I don't think anybody knows. Maybe she is covering another story. She's been putting so much time into this case lately, she probably needs a break for her own sanity.