Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #39

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Knox said:
Recapping Andy's interview this morning with Fox31, the reporter's asked some great questions!
  • LE is cooperating with the search and supporting. Andy says they have run out of time, money & resources to do ground searches.
  • I think that she was abducted. I don’t think she ever got on her bike. I think she probably died Saturday and she was hidden somewhere Saturday night and we’re pushing forward and that’s the theories that we have right now that seem to be correct.
  • I think she was killed and hidden somewhere in the mountains.
  • Andy has not spoke to Barry, he was invited to the search by PE but did not respond. We ran into him yesterday, he was out hanging trail cams with a shotgun on his shoulder. He told us hey you're about to step on private property, so we turned around and went back.
  • We did uncover some things on that mountaintop close to the home yesterday that are being processed by CBI & CCSO and we hope we find more today.
  • I'm afraid this is domestic abuse to be honest with you. There's a strong possibility BM killed her.
  • I've found out some things since I've been out here, about Suzanne working with domestic abuse meetings and things out here that kind of make me suspicious, that's the main thing I've got figured out so far.
  • LE is extremely tight-lipped about the investigation, they don't want to muddy up a possible jury, second they want to protect the integrity of the information they have so far.
  • Mentions he has not spoke with either of the girls.
  • GIS is doing a good job, really happy with it. We are going to search Dead Horse Gulch, near the Morphew property to recheck Foose Lake and all the lakes up on Monarch Mountain, we've got some old mines we need to look at and that's pretty much the search for today.
  • (What would Andy say to Barry) I don't think you can live with such a thing, The smart thing to do would be to go to the police and tell them anything you know. That's all I know to say.
  • (What does Andy think about the hotel & employees) Yeah that was interesting and some of that is still coming out, the chlorine smell in the hotel is not right. Some of the timing factors of that evening and morning are not correct and that's suspicious to me.
  • Whether we find Suzanne or not, I can assure you LE has a ton of information this far and I think they are trying to fill their envelope before they seal it.
‘I’m afraid this is domestic abuse’; Suzanne Morhpew’s brother says husband not participating in search, carrying shotgun to keep people off property

If you're confused by my recap, listen to interview at link :)
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The bolded gives me --and I think most of us here -- so much hope !
Thanks for this recap, @Knox !
 
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paul onions said:
With the new information that AM thinks there was an abduction, plus what has been said about the locals being afraid, secrets in the mountains, etc, my theory has shifted a bit.

I used to assume that this was a typical husband decides to kill the wife story. But now...

* There may be some drug activity going on in town, which explains the fearful locals. Open secret? Intimidation?
* Probably meth, due to BM’s many accusations that everyone around him is a meth head. Cookers in the mountains or trade hubs or whatever. “secrets in the mountains”
* it seems like a lot to get into in 2 years, but maybe BM became involved in this crowd through the people he hired for his business. Or moved to CO after learning of the “opportunity” in IN. Or from the nephew.
* SM starts figuring it out and confronts him on Friday. BM panics decides she has to go.
* He hires one of his drug associates to do it, likely Sat morning. That is why he needed to be with MG that morning and why he cut the day short. Too much adrenaline.
* This associate takes her from the house (abducts) and kills her. Maybe it was even someone she knew though BM (maybe someone “known to her” did it). She is stored somewhere off property (a cooler?) until it is safe for nightfall.
* my assumption is that everything is a little sloppy because he was planning to get rid of her for a while, or had talked with this person about doing it, but something kicked the plan into gear sooner than he thought.
* Rest of Saturday is being seen in town and scrambling to set up Sunday. Things start going off the rails.
* he buries some evidence at the Salida site. Then he goes and buries her in the early morning. Possibly with the other person. (two people DID see her say day, but she was already dead)
* he needed the three contractors out of town Sunday in case they saw weird things missing at the office or if LE came by asking questions.
* plotting it is one thing, but Actually doing it is another. (per MG, he looked like he had had the worst night of his life)
* once he’s “safe” with his alibi, he starts the process of talking to the girls and the neighbor
* also explains LE’s handling of the case. Maybe they are trying to catch the Bigger Fish.

or maybe I’ve just watched too much Breaking Bad

MOO IMO etc
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Yes, yes & yes! This is a theory I was working on as well. You beat me to it! Good summary based on some of the recent details that have been disclosed.
 
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Larger photo of the truck & trailer -

What color are CO plates?
 

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Dave F. said:
I'm pretty confident that neither man could be capable of fighting the other to the length that LE is capable of not releasing the remains. IMO
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Hey Guys n Dolls are you digging a hole before the body is found? Let’s cross that Puma Path when the time is right. JMHO not meant to offend.
 
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Are these pictures of BM and his bobcat on a trailer cryptic clues about what might have happened when hiding Suzanne?
 
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paul onions said:
With the new information that AM thinks there was an abduction, plus what has been said about the locals being afraid, secrets in the mountains, etc, my theory has shifted a bit.

I used to assume that this was a typical husband decides to kill the wife story. But now...

* There may be some drug activity going on in town, which explains the fearful locals. Open secret? Intimidation?
* Probably meth, due to BM’s many accusations that everyone around him is a meth head. Cookers in the mountains or trade hubs or whatever. “secrets in the mountains”
* it seems like a lot to get into in 2 years, but maybe BM became involved in this crowd through the people he hired for his business. Or moved to CO after learning of the “opportunity” in IN. Or from the nephew.
* SM starts figuring it out and confronts him on Friday. BM panics decides she has to go.
* He hires one of his drug associates to do it, likely Sat morning. That is why he needed to be with MG that morning and why he cut the day short. Too much adrenaline.
* This associate takes her from the house (abducts) and kills her. Maybe it was even someone she knew though BM (maybe someone “known to her” did it). She is stored somewhere off property (a cooler?) until it is safe for nightfall.
* my assumption is that everything is a little sloppy because he was planning to get rid of her for a while, or had talked with this person about doing it, but something kicked the plan into gear sooner than he thought.
* Rest of Saturday is being seen in town and scrambling to set up Sunday. Things start going off the rails.
* he buries some evidence at the Salida site. Then he goes and buries her in the early morning. Possibly with the other person. (two people DID see her say day, but she was already dead)
* he needed the three contractors out of town Sunday in case they saw weird things missing at the office or if LE came by asking questions.
* plotting it is one thing, but Actually doing it is another. (per MG, he looked like he had had the worst night of his life)
* once he’s “safe” with his alibi, he starts the process of talking to the girls and the neighbor
* also explains LE’s handling of the case. Maybe they are trying to catch the Bigger Fish.

or maybe I’ve just watched too much Breaking Bad

MOO IMO etc
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And MG <modsnip> openly admits to being afraid of BM.
 
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SallyWolff said:
Don’t forget, girls can learn to tolerate mistreatment from their friends (girls and boys) when they view being a member of a friend group the most important thing at any cost and not how they are treated in the group. It can influence what they are willing to tolerate from their partners later in life.
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With age, slowly, we work out who really are good friends/family etc.
Sometimes, we keep 'so called' friends as we have known them for years.
Then you break many of these friendships and move on.
You only want people around you, that are good to you and that you trust.
Takes years....

With Suzanne, years with BM had opened her eyes, to the angry, controlling man she married.
Her illness, made her think, she must move away.
This is not what BM wanted, so SM is missing.
MOO.
 
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Knox said:
Larger photo of the truck & trailer -

What color are CO plates?
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That looks like a CO firefighter license plate.
 
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LandManatee said:
Oh ok. Wasn’t sure because Chris is not going into details. He’s just tweeting out the pics. By pics I mean he just tweeted the same picture but uncropped. It shows Barry with a Bobcat on a trailer behind his truck but again, Chris provided no details. I wonder if the pic is from today?

https://twitter.com/187cjm/status/1309628367155736576?s=21
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Seeing the Bobcat with BM is such a trigger. Makes me furious! IMO BM wanted to be seen towing it. On the day of beautiful Suzanne's candlelight vigil?!! And while caring strangers trek through mountains praying for a sign of her?!! What a D-bag. His blatant arrogance astounds me (and makes me want to vomit).
 
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LandManatee said:
Yes, yes & yes! This is a theory I was working on as well. You beat me to it! Good summary based on some of the recent details that have been disclosed.
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I’m sure a lot of us are putting that together!

It would also explain why MG was approached by two men and spoken to about “hush money”

Even the rumor if domestic abuse meetings would fit. He can be abusive (partially drug fueled) AND involved in some shady 🤬🤬🤬🤬.

She may have known nothing about his extracurricular and just asked for a divorce. That would explain the comment to MG about him “needing to go home and make the wife happy” since he just had a fight.

The most dangerous time around your abuser is when you leave them...

JMO, MOO
 
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paul onions said:
With the new information that AM thinks there was an abduction, plus what has been said about the locals being afraid, secrets in the mountains, etc, my theory has shifted a bit.

I used to assume that this was a typical husband decides to kill the wife story. But now...

* There may be some drug activity going on in town, which explains the fearful locals. Open secret? Intimidation?
* Probably meth, due to BM’s many accusations that everyone around him is a meth head. Cookers in the mountains or trade hubs or whatever. “secrets in the mountains”
* it seems like a lot to get into in 2 years, but maybe BM became involved in this crowd through the people he hired for his business. Or moved to CO after learning of the “opportunity” in IN. Or from the nephew.
* SM starts figuring it out and confronts him on Friday. BM panics decides she has to go.
* He hires one of his drug associates to do it, likely Sat morning. That is why he needed to be with MG that morning and why he cut the day short. Too much adrenaline.
* This associate takes her from the house (abducts) and kills her. Maybe it was even someone she knew though BM (maybe someone “known to her” did it). She is stored somewhere off property (a cooler?) until it is safe for nightfall.
* my assumption is that everything is a little sloppy because he was planning to get rid of her for a while, or had talked with this person about doing it, but something kicked the plan into gear sooner than he thought.
* Rest of Saturday is being seen in town and scrambling to set up Sunday. Things start going off the rails.
* he buries some evidence at the Salida site. Then he goes and buries her in the early morning. Possibly with the other person. (two people DID see her say day, but she was already dead)
* he needed the three contractors out of town Sunday in case they saw weird things missing at the office or if LE came by asking questions.
* plotting it is one thing, but Actually doing it is another. (per MG, he looked like he had had the worst night of his life)
* once he’s “safe” with his alibi, he starts the process of talking to the girls and the neighbor
* also explains LE’s handling of the case. Maybe they are trying to catch the Bigger Fish.

or maybe I’ve just watched too much Breaking Bad

MOO IMO etc
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I just can't buy a murder-for-hire, as the whole point of that is so that the one doing the hiring has a bulletproof alibi. So between the fact that BM doesn't have a solid alibi AND the steps taken to seemingly muddy the timeline (staging the bike ride, FB messages, etc.), I think this is an extremely remote possibility..... MOO
 
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