Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #39

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  • #541
MOO you never know though, the redemption of one person BM spoke of Suzanne wanting, may still lay in the future.
 
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  • #542
Hello everyone, I hope you don't mind that I get back to the subject. Missing Suzanne Morphew.

Does anyone know when and by whom someone last spoke to SM? I don't mean text I mean verbally spoke to her?

Does anyone know when SM was last physically seen in person other than family members.

I sort of sit on the fence with this case. I get lots of splinters. I have so many questions.

Ultimately Do I think BM trogged up various hills down ravines and buried his wife over night, used Bobcats. NO I Don't. Now ask me if I think no names mentioned took SM else where. YES I do.

I quite simply think No Name Mentioned (Abductor) took SM out of area semi alive, killed and disposed of her en route between route A and B. I don't think they will find the remains of SM in the Mayesville/Salida area. They may well find other interesting things pertaining to different cases.

I suppose I would like to know if there were any fires that were responded to by no name mentioned , Fire fighting, construction person after the last time SM was spoken to or seen.

I cling on to the glimmer of hope SM did a runner and is alive and well. However I don't think she would put her Children through such turmoil nor fail to reach out in someway to her father. Then again no one knows anyone's family dynamics.

The Morphews and Moormans obliviously have some sort of past or recent history, Otherwise they would be working together to find a Wife, a Mother, a Daughter and Aunt.

My thoughts are with both families and that they find a way to work together to find Suzanne Morphew. Wife, Mum, Daughter, Aunt and Friend.

With Kindest Regards
Mingy Moo
 
  • #543
AM has never outright said BM is a killer. So, I think possibly with the “children” comment, he is likely trying to motivate all of Salida and the surrounding community to get involved with this effort.

Whether you are a BM supporter or not, SM has likely been murdered. Would you want this suspect still lurking in this area? You and your children may not be safe. Come forward, help us end this, bring SM home, and seek justice.

That’s how I interpret AM saying this. Bless his soul. AM does sometimes misspeak, and who can blame him having been thrown into this role?
All JMO.
Poor guy needs some rest!
Long journey, altitude and physical endurance taxed along with the tragic reason he’s in Salida cause to me give him a pass on any and all statements.
He could also have been thinking of the parents of BM’s young employees/friends as those may consider then their children JMO

edit to fix quote twice
 
  • #544
Dbm
 
  • #545
Watts tried to dispose of remains but got caught. Frazee tried to dispose of remains but got caught. Latest colorado murderer will probably get away with spousicide.
 
  • #546
Wondering if a hint of "bleach smell" was lingering in both the house and old truck ... and a certain someone needed a break from both?
 
  • #547
BBM:

If it were just the CCSO investigating this case, then their relatively small size and budget would be more of a concern.

However, Sheriff Spezze almost immediately brought in numerous additional LEAs, including both the CBI and the FBI, both of which obviously have much greater capabilities in terms of manpower, investigative tools, technologies, and funding resources.

I really don't think we need to be worried at all in that regard.

The DA is another matter entirely.

JMO.
Im sure this has been discussed before so apologies. Ive seen it mentioned a few times there may be an issue with the DA, but I think I missed why. Can one of you kind souls refresh my memory :)
 
  • #548
I hate to say it but if they don’t find her body Barry is likely to get away with it.

I disagree.

I say that because of the swiftness with which LE's actions signaled that they suspected SM did not disappear on any Sunday bike ride, and that they were looking close to home.

LE was even quicker to the mark in this case than they were on the Berreth case, which is another recent no-body case in Colorado, one which resulted in a murder conviction and a LWOP +156 years sentence for her moronic murderer.

Missing in Connecticut: 'No body' murder cases difficult to solve, but possible

SABBM:

DiBiase said his research on "no body" cases in the country has shown that the conviction rate is high, he said.

"About 90 percent of cases that have gone to trial have gotten convictions, which is higher than most people would expect," DiBiase said.


He compared a prosecutor's case in a "no body" situation to a three-legged stool, with it being best to have all three legs. One is forensic evidence like blood, hair and fiber, a second is a confession to police, and the third is a confession to friends, family or jailhouse informants.

"The best 'no body' cases have all of these," DiBiase said. "In most cases, because you don't have the body itself, you have to have one of these three things to make the case."
_______________________________


The linked article is a good one about no-body cases.
We might all want to start boning up on no body investigations and prosecutions.
A lot of the no-body articles I've read include interviews with Tad DiBiase. Googling his name and no body prosecutions bring up quite a few interesting articles.

I like his analogy of the 3-legged stool.
I'm hoping that Sheriff Spezze & Co. have at least one of those legs to support a prosecution case.

No body cases are difficult.
No body cases unquestionably pose unique challenges.
But don't think they can't be won by prosecutors, because they can be won, and won decisively.

Just ask Dan May.

Better yet, ask Patrick Frazee.

JMO.
 
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  • #549
Im sure this has been discussed before so apologies. Ive seen it mentioned a few times there may be an issue with the DA, but I think I missed why. Can one of you kind souls refresh my memory :)

I think she is an interim DA. There is an upcoming election so a lot of people tend to think she wouldn’t prosecute due to lack of experience. Hope I have that right.
 
  • #550
Im sure this has been discussed before so apologies. Ive seen it mentioned a few times there may be an issue with the DA, but I think I missed why. Can one of you kind souls refresh my memory :)

Certainly!

The current DA is a political appointment that was put into that position by the Governor of Colorado after the duly elected DA abruptly resigned from the position last year. She has no former prosecutorial experience.

This is definitely not a case I would want to see any inexperienced DA cutting her/his teeth on, especially if it turns out to be a no-b0dy case, which is certainly the likelihood at this point.

Another concern some of us have is that Sheriff Spezze has not endorsed this DA's candidacy in the upcoming November election.

I suspect there's a very specific reason he has not done so.

JMO.
 
  • #551
Hello everyone, I hope you don't mind that I get back to the subject. Missing Suzanne Morphew.



The Morphews and Moormans obliviously have some sort of past or recent history, Otherwise they would be working together to find a Wife, a Mother, a Daughter and Aunt.

My thoughts are with both families and that they find a way to work together to find Suzanne Morphew. Wife, Mum, Daughter, Aunt and Friend.

With Kindest Regards
Mingy Moo

Its hard to work together when it appears that a family member may have committed a crime. One side may be loathe to support their family member, but not come on out and stand beside them either. Another family may not want to do anything against a member of another family until all facts come out. And then there are people like Andy, trying to do something, and trying pretty hard to not call out someone who he thinks may have harmed his sister. And that person refers to his search as a publicity stunt. Let that sit there for a minute. A publicity stunt to ask people to come together and try to find his missing, presumed dead sister.
 
  • #552
BM moved in to a condo.
BM got rid of his old truck, bought new.

Did he think his house and old truck were bugged?

MOO
Most likely he did. If LE is watching him closely, then I'd think the condo and new truck are bugged as well. JMO
 
  • #553
I think she is an interim DA. There is an upcoming election so a lot of people tend to think she wouldn’t prosecute due to lack of experience. Hope I have that right.
Ahhh gotcha and thank you, mam or sir. Well, there's always the chance BM could be charged federally, and then someone from the US Attorneys office would prosecute rather than the DA, but the DA would still have to agree to relinquish the case..... still I gotta throw out potentially optimistic options. Despite my generally, skeptical nature and the fact that I have no reason to believe so based on current evidence, I just strongly feel this is a solvable/prosecutable case.

And another thank you to @GordianKnot. I 100% agree with your astute assessment. No-body cases are hard enough to prosecute as it is and I too would like to see someone more experienced arguing it. Also thank you for posting the no-body article, I look forward to reading more about the process of prosecuting these cases

edit: I also agree with your sentiments that theres a reason for the lack of endorsement. LE and the DAs office typically work closely together and know each others styles/capabilities. The lack of endorsement speaks volumes to me given how close the election is and thats troubling
 
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  • #554
Wondering if a hint of "bleach smell" was lingering in both the house and old truck ... and a certain someone needed a break from both?
I used to use bleach a fair bit for cleaning and laundry, especially grandchildren’s tees and undies until I discovered Oxyclean! Amazing stuff! The scent of bleach does not hang around for weeks or even days. With Oxyclean there’s no noticeable odour that lingers and it’s great for getting out blood stains. I doubt BM would know that.
 
  • #555
Hello everyone, I hope you don't mind that I get back to the subject. Missing Suzanne Morphew.

Does anyone know when and by whom someone last spoke to SM? I don't mean text I mean verbally spoke to her?

Does anyone know when SM was last physically seen in person other than family members.

I sort of sit on the fence with this case. I get lots of splinters. I have so many questions.

Ultimately Do I think BM trogged up various hills down ravines and buried his wife over night, used Bobcats. NO I Don't. Now ask me if I think no names mentioned took SM else where. YES I do.

I quite simply think No Name Mentioned (Abductor) took SM out of area semi alive, killed and disposed of her en route between route A and B. I don't think they will find the remains of SM in the Mayesville/Salida area. They may well find other interesting things pertaining to different cases.

I suppose I would like to know if there were any fires that were responded to by no name mentioned , Fire fighting, construction person after the last time SM was spoken to or seen.

I cling on to the glimmer of hope SM did a runner and is alive and well. However I don't think she would put her Children through such turmoil nor fail to reach out in someway to her father. Then again no one knows anyone's family dynamics.

The Morphews and Moormans obliviously have some sort of past or recent history, Otherwise they would be working together to find a Wife, a Mother, a Daughter and Aunt.

My thoughts are with both families and that they find a way to work together to find Suzanne Morphew. Wife, Mum, Daughter, Aunt and Friend.

With Kindest Regards
Mingy Moo

Great points, all. I’ve had your questions, too. There is that possibility of an opportunistic predator, which truly explains the absolute lack of real evidence.

Even with AMs excellent remix of all our evidence, there’s that lack of validation by LE, therefore much still remains hearsay.

I recently purchased 4 cushions, only needed 3, so now I have less splinters. Lol
 
  • #556
Last night on PE, someone asked if suspected murderers usually acted as uncaring and had as many red flags as Barry seems to have around him. Paraphrased. Ex NYPD cop dutyron said, sure, right up to the moment they confess. As though it's not unusual at all for a murderer to just go for it (innocence) until it's too late.
I wonder if having offspring will cause him to confess someday, especially if her remains are found yet still can't be tied to him. That image of her remains may shake up a lot of Barry supporters to the point where he has no support at all.
 
  • #557
Good luck searchers!
Current weather, sunny,
75 degrees in Maysville, 52 degrees up on Monarch Pass.
 
  • #558
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. MOO.
 
  • #559
I think there is some optimism to be had here.

A cursory survey of some of the more high profile cases of the last two decades tells us that reluctance to join a search party and/or derision of a missing person’s advocates tends to correlate with the continued existence of said missing person’s remains.
 
  • #560
dbm
 
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