Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #39

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  • #641
Are you sure that’s BM? That person looked thinner, I thought, although maybe with all that working out BM’s trimmed off a few pounds?
Are you talking about the photo of the truck w/ bobcat in tow and two men? If so, that's absolutely BM and someone else.
I blew it up looking to see if someone else was driving the truck.
If you're talking about another pic, please let me know. :)
 
  • #642
I like how you refer BM as an actor.
 
  • #643
Can someone tell me if the district attorney was at the vigil?
 
  • #644
It seemed clear to the brother of the missing person as he described various searches the family conducted that involved the spouse of the missing person. I do not understand the need to claim the spouse of the missing has not done anything to look for the missing person, when there is some evidence to the contrary...IMO

Whether he has done enough or the right things is certainly up for discussion...IMO.

The lack of involvement of the children of the missing person in these searches and the vigil tonight is telling regarding certain family dynamics. Much like a two day delay in answering a happy birthday text...IMO

What would the discussion around whether BM has

"has done enough or the right things is certainly up for discussion...IMO"

What would you say shows he should be excused from effort or has done enough, or the right things?
 
  • #645
Okay, I couldn't resist this.

Contractor Rubber Duck
Looks about right: Sitting on his tail while someone else is doing all the splashing around.

Catching up this morning after 10 hours driving yesterday. I had so hoped SM would be found and BM arrested while I was away from this thread.

Instead, keeping the candle burning and prayers going for the strength and resolve of AM and his searchers another day. (Wish someone would plant dozens of those whirligig things on sticks in front of all those newly installed trail cams... you know, so searchers can be absolutely clear about the location of property lines.)
 
  • #646
I wish they had a cadaver dog with them to explore the water there at the river's edge because in some of the recent photographs, it looks dark and gross to me close to that area.

Reminds me of when the water turned dark coming out of the taps at the Cecil Hotel in San Francisco. After several complaints from guests, a hotel maintenance worker went up on the roof and checked the water tank and discovered the decomposing body of former hotel guest and month-long missing person Elisa Lam inside.

elisa's case creeps me out to this day.

i believe chris said they were taking cadaver dogs down to that spot the day they announced the info about the anomalies. so i do think that's happening.
 
  • #647
bbm
Ita.
I'd be hard pressed to choose which of BM's statements/actions are the most loathesome :
  • The 26 second video "plea", starting with "Oh, Suzanne..." As if all of this was her fault.
  • Not mentioning Suzanne her by name since.
  • The non-actions, not even canvassing the neighborhood or putting up flyers. (Ok, I'll concede that maybe BM did talk to people and put up flyers, albeit under cover of darkness and completely incognito ;) , hence no sightings of him about town doing this.)
  • The odd items on his hastily-written list to search for Suzanne, with no mention of her appearance/photo or even giving out his name (he wanted to be referred to as "the husband", per TN).
  • Confronting the searchers with a shotgun and trail cams to spy on them.
  • The blocking of public access roads.
  • Possibly threatening or having others threaten those covering Suzanne's case .
  • Feel free to add to this list, it's ginormous.

But the bolded is front runner up !
How disgusting. :mad:
Imo.
Abso-freaking-lutely! Out of all the aberrant things Barry has said and done, calling Andy’s search a publicity stunt was scraping the bottom of the barrel, even for Barry.

I’m so sorry Suzanne’s daughters are stuck in the middle of this nightmare. I can only imagine how alone they must feel. IMO Suzanne would be heartbroken to see the rift in the family.
 
  • #648
It looks exactly like Barry to me, although you’re right, he does look skinner. I’m sure his weight loss is stress related.

He’s driving the same type of truck that Barry owns, and that truck appears to have firefighter plates.

That truck is hauling a bobcat.

There would also be no reason to tweet a photo of some random person, so I’m convinced it is in fact Barry.

Of course it's Barry; he is wagging his (right) hand while talking, just as he did in the presence of TD in the old video. ;)
 
  • #649
Assume the use of an older car by anyone that possibly abducted SM. Stranger or family.

MOO the CBI has gone through all the footage and much of the gps data of the vehicles accessing that stretch of Hwy 50 and CR 225, for the days 5/7-5/10.

MOO disabling a modern vehicle's internal computer GPS collector should show up as a time gap, if it is even possible to do it. Maybe someone can say.

Leticia Stauch ran around in different cars and ended up being tracked by the car's internal computer's data collection, the cars were all newer.

Fotis Dulos borrowed an employees old truck to avoid this.

MOO a vehicle is involved.

MOO gone in thin air only supports the mountain lion theory. But in that case, anyone who believed a cat killed her would have had a committed hunt to track the cat to its cache and den where remains would be found.

this is one of the reasons i think she is on that property or very close by it. i don't think BM would ever risk having his vehicle caught on those cameras right out from his driveway, or anywhere else for that matter. same for GPS. he seems to have really thought this through.

also, don't y'all think he's going to put her some place he is familiar with? that's what most killers do, even if subconsciously. are there hunting trails on his property? doesn't his bud live just right through the woods? on the other hand, if he was smart (which i do believe he is, although it PAAAINS me to say that), he would go somewhere completely random. of course, they are going to search all the places he DID go, bc that's obvious, but what if he secretly went in a completely different direction somehow?

(as you can tell, i'm all over the place in my thinking of whether she's on the property or off site. but i do believe he's going to be very familiar with the area he took her to.)

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  • #650
Are you talking about the photo of the truck w/ bobcat in tow and two men? If so, that's absolutely BM and someone else.
I blew it up looking to see if someone else was driving the truck.
If you're talking about another pic, please let me know. :)
No that’s the one! Consensus is, it’s Barry the contractor......aka the Duck! :)
 
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  • #651
Looks about right: Sitting on his tail while someone else is doing all the splashing around.

Catching up this morning after 10 hours driving yesterday. I had so hoped SM would be found and BM arrested while I was away from this thread.

Instead, keeping the candle burning and prayers going for the strength and resolve of AM and his searchers another day. (Wish someone would plant dozens of those whirligig things on sticks in front of all those newly installed trail cams... you know, so searchers can be absolutely clear about the location of property lines.)
bbm
:p:D
 
  • #652
I have a question. If they used Barry’s truck GPS, why on Earth didn’t he think to disable it before he [ALLEGEDLY] killed Suzanne? If he’s had this even vaguely premeditated, it seems thinking of gps on any vehicle, phone, etc would be one of the main things you’d take care of. Do I know anything about his coordinates on any GPS, no. But, I work in politics so work is crazy and I know I miss information. Thanks! ALL JMO

The computer systems on board most modern vehicles can't be simply disabled. You can't just turn them off. It's part of the control unit of the vehicle, so that other parts of the truck wouldn't work if that unit was pulled out or turned off.

I am basing this on what apparently knowledgeable people on an F150 forum. You can turn off the user interface, but the GPS unit embedded in the truck's computer still keeps communicating with satellites.

Most people do not know this and think that by deleting the Ford app from their phone and turning it off on the screen, it doesn't work. But the computer module (which costs something like $1500 without labor to replace) has GPS on board. The truck apparently won't start without that module.
 
  • #653
It looks exactly like Barry to me, although you’re right, he does look skinner. I’m sure his weight loss is stress related.

He’s driving the same type of truck that Barry owns, and that truck appears to have firefighter plates.

That truck is hauling a bobcat.

There would also be no reason to tweet a photo of some random person, so I’m convinced it is in fact Barry.
IMO, his truck is very expensive and very customized. I doubt there are many exactly like it in the area, or in Colorado, or in the midwest for that matter..

JMO, MOO
 
  • #654
Excellent, Chris w/Profiling Evil just tweeted a new photo of the “beach area” BM and MG worked on being revisited by Andy’s army of searchers.
AWESOME!
It's wonderful that they are taking a close look at this area.
 
  • #655
this is one of the reasons i think she is on that property or very close by it. i don't think BM would ever risk having his vehicle caught on those cameras right out from his driveway, or anywhere else for that matter. same for GPS. he seems to have really thought this through.

also, don't y'all think he's going to put her someplace he is familiar with? that's what most killers do, even if subconsciously. are there hunting trails on his property? doesn't his bud live just right through the woods? on the other hand, if he was smart (which i do believe he is, although it PAAAINS me to say that), he would go somewhere completely random. of course, they are going to search all the places he DID go, bc that's obvious, but what if he secretly went in a completely different direction somehow?

(as you can tell, i'm all over the place in my thinking of whether she's on the property or off site. but i do believe he's going to be very familiar with the area he took her to.)

we got any psychopaths here who can think like BM? lol. :p
I know how you feel, I kind of flip flop back and forth with the idea of premeditation. Part of me thinks this is something BM planned for a long time. I mean what are the chances of SM just happening to disappear the weekend his girls were out of the house and he had an "out of town job". Why else would there have been no signs of a struggle at the house or how was the potential evidence of the crime cleaned up well enough to keep BM from being immediately arrested? But on the other hand, how does someone who pre-planned a homicide fail to have a plausible explanation for her disappearance and why would he get so flustered by questions? OR why would he intentionally be acting in a way the continues to point suspicion at him instead of at least trying to pretend to be looking for SM?

I dont know man, the more I try and understand BMs thought process, the more confused I become
 
  • #656
I think “reasonable” people will see BM for what he is, a miserable excuse for a husband of a missing wife and mother. “Failure to launch” doesn’t even touch the non-effort this man has put forward on behalf of a woman he calls “the love of my life.” That’s likely because he’s guilty of making her disappear. He has no desire to find her or continue to advocate for her. She’s gone and he needs to move on! She’s in heaven and I got saved in the process. Sick man. I suspect he can’t wait for this search to be over and hells bells let’s get back to business. Right from the beginning he had his agenda in place. Guardianship, new truck, new property, a well, a driveway, push up contest and hunting!

Thank goodness she has a brother that loved her and is determined to find her and see justice. And, regardless of whether or not this search effort is successful in finding SM, we the people will never forget what AM accomplished with the help of beautiful people. By the same token, we will never forget the pathetic video BM put on FB and all that he did NOT do! JMHO
This is a fantastic post, @SuziQ. During this time of so much darkness in our COVID world, it's wonderful to see how so many people have come together to search for Suzanne. May this be the day she is found. May God bless all of the searchers and everyone who has cared to check online each day hoping for news that SM has been found.
 
  • #657
This is not intended to point fingers anywhere, pure speculation. What if BM suspects AM? It’s pretty clear AM suspects BM, at this point.
Certainly explains lack of cooperation with search, protection from planted evidence, etc
Sooo, JMO, there may be mutual suspicion, doesn’t make either one the guilty person.
I still contend we may have an opportunist predator, in play, always looking, in such cases it seems those closest to victim really suffer.
JMVHO

I think this is definitely the thinking in the BM camp. He has fostered these ideas among them from the beginning. Unlike AM, who is making it publicly clear (after several months) that he suspects BM, BM has never intimated publicly that he suspects Suzanne's family.

For those of us watching mainly the actions of LE, it seems clear that LE does not suspect AM, as they are aiding him and giving him information.

While it's true that being suspected by LE is no proof of guilt, it certainly makes a person suspicious, especially when months drag on, and instead of making an announcement that BM is not a formal POI, instead, LE seems to be certain enough of his involvement that they have cooperated with AM's mission.

So, if instead of there being mounting evidence against BM (which most here would say is the case - not sure you were around much in the month prior to the MG/JP material being disclosed, but it really was quiet in terms of new events until LS got JP/MG to speak; none of what they said made us suspect BM less).

I don't really think about guilt (which to me is a legal term) when I post here - nor do I read posts as if people were speaking of legal guilt.

I get suspicious of people, especially as I learn more facts and the facts make me more suspicious. And I'm not a particularly paranoid or suspicious person - in fact, I go mostly by probabilities, which I'd be happy to estimate, once again, for this case.
 
  • #658
No that’s the one! Consensus is, it’s Barry the contractor......aka the Duck! :)
Yes.
Glad they're searching the beach area.
I keep feeling like she's closer than previously thought.
 
  • #659
There are just so many missing pieces. The timeline is all over the place, by days. The people that have a little more knowledge aren’t speaking publicly. A reporter who has a lot more first hand conversations that she has not shared has disappeared from the case. There is one constant-Barry continues to make himself look bad.
 
  • #660
If Suzanne is not found after these multiple days of a very thorough search, to me, that should put an end to all the talk about bike wrecks and mountain lion attacks because she would not be where she should be if one of those things happened. Someone would have had to have deliberately taken her somewhere and hidden her body.
 
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