Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #40

[NuttMegg]

I asked myself why someone would pay $165,000 for a plain, flat untreed lot with those surroundings. Very unattractive IMO.

Not exactly what John Denver would have called a "Colorado Rocky Mountain High".

 

[elliefant]

I don’t understand the problem with the CCSO statement either. Surely people don’t want them to confirm things they don’t know to be true?

 

[NuttMegg]

The PE guys are going to give us a strong indication tonight if there’s a fire or just smoke.
IMO

But then we have to sort through what THEY say to determine fires vs smoke.

 

[coastal]

And, we don't know what we don't know! I just had to add that.

“Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns- the ones we don't know we don't know.”

― Donald Rumsfeld

 

[canteloupe]

Aye who doesn't love the sound jumbo jets taking off and flying over their house, shaking their windows and cutlery all night while they try and sleep and their cat get's PTSD.

Precisely. This case constantly reminds us that one must look out for cats of all sizes.

 

[Knox]

EK[URL='https://twitter.com/EllenKilloran']@EllenKilloran[/URL]
We are working to get more clarity. The statement does not specifically deny that cadaver dogs picked up a human scent. But there does seem to be something strange going on with the investigation. #SuzanneMorphew

 

[Harmony 2]

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CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #41

 

[LandManatee]

Bearing in mind the Daily Mail is known for their inaccuracies, I noticed their article stated the plot of land they’re referencing is NEAR Poncha Springs. They don’t mention Salida.

Does anyone know how far away the Longhorn development is from Poncha Springs?

Are we certain the Longhorn plot is the same plot of land being mentioned in the DM article? Especially considering the Longhorn plot has a Salida, CO address.

Additionally, the plot pics the DM article shows that are seemingly of the land that the dogs got the hit on, look different to me than the plot of land at the Longhorn subdivision.

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IMO I am not convinced we know yet the exact location of the place the dogs got the “hit” based on this observation.

I agree with @MassGuy that we need reporters on the ground and in the air to confirm the location. Or even some locals to chime in and confirm the location based on activity.

FBI called as scent of human remains discovered on land owned by Suzanne Morphew's husband | Daily Mail Online

Sorry to bump and reply to my own post, but I wanted to add Tricia’s video that I feel further supports my questioning of the plot of land that the dogs hit at.

At the 17:50 min mark, Tricia mentions her sources are stating this may be a piece of land that Barry owns that the public was not aware of.

So I feel the property location where the dogs hit is yet to be disclosed and it is not the Longhorn plot.

Does anyone else agree with my thinking on this or is it just me?

 

[Minordetails]

But then we have to sort through what THEY say to determine fires vs smoke.

Lol. They’re LE veterans. They got to know what’s up. No BS tonight. Either this serious or it’s not.

 

[sunflowerchick]

Aye who doesn't love the sound jumbo jets taking off and flying over their house, shaking their windows and cutlery all night while they try and sleep and their cat get's PTSD.

With all due respect, no "jumbo jets" are flying into Salida, CO.

 

[Shekkiec]

If she’s there, I don’t think the well permit factors in. I think that’s standard.

I do think he dug a hole using his bobcat, and it’s in a location that wouldn’t be impacted when construction began.

He wouldn’t want her accidentally dug up.

Ok darn it lol

 

[lonetraveler]

If any object is placed under a newly planted tree, the tree's roots will eventually grow around and secure the object.

If BM planted any new trees during this time, he might have thrown evidence in the bottom of the hole he dug before he planted the tree.

No one would think to question the area for recent digging, as the new tree explains the disturbed soil.

JMO, MOO

Yes, if this becomes the real story, I must say that I would be totally surprised that Barry thought this out all by himself.

 

[jakat]

BM's Longhorn Dr Lot. Trees, Foliage? (whoops, reading back-azz-wards. Sorry if already covered).
Has anyone seen current or newish pix of the lot & subdivision?
Pix of no date = both golf course green, imo irrigated like big green circle on left of subdivision in pix.
Post BM purchase of lot, MSM showed dusty, scrubby foliage pix, also no date. Cant find link now, sorry.

If driveway has since been graded, or trees planted, or dirt work for the specific homesite/pad has been done, imo, current photos should make that work pretty obvious. Newer pix, please, anyone? Esp'ly aerial.

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Green. A Zillow pic of same w his lot lines not marked. N.D.
8366 Longhorn Dr, Salida, CO 81201 | Zillow

The article in the Daily Mail today shows current pictures of the lot for whichever day the dogs alerted on the property. There is a picture of AM taking pictures of the lot and a picture of a cadaver dog and its handler sniffing a pile of huge rocks. I didn't see any trees, just grass, dirt and rocks. Sorry, but I'm using my phone to post and can't link the article. The pictures are in today's Daily Mail.

 

[steeltowngirl]

It really depends on which property one is discussing.

I. Property owned by Barry

If -- as reported by the Daily Mail ** -- the dogs "hit" on something in/on Barry's property, then that fact (the "hit") may be used in a probable cause affidavit to attempt to obtain a warrant.* The purpose of the exclusionary rule (suppressing evidence) is to "punish" the government for unlawful actions. For example, if an officer who goes into a home without a warrant, conducts a search, and finds cocaine, the cocaine could be excluded from evidence because the government agent (the officer) committed an unlawful act (a search without a warrant). Here, however, it can be argued that the police did nothing wrong: the volunteers did. The "punishment" of exclusion would serve no purpose, since the police's actions were not unlawful.

However, if the defense can connect the police to the volunteers, then the volunteers may be considered agents of the police. This would mean that the government did violate the law: it caused its agents to search Barry's property without a warrant. Because there was no warrant, the search would be presumed to be unlawful.


II. Property not owned by Barry

This search is less of a problem. Barry has no expectation of privacy in a property owned by another person, so it's doubtful that he can attempt to have any evidence obtained there excluded. A person can only challenge a search as unreasonable if he has "standing," which is a reasonable expectation of privacy in the place that is searched.

Note that even if any evidence obtained due to these searches is admitted, the defense can still argue that the evidence was planted, especially if the property was already searched by investigators at a prior time and nothing was found.

* I have no idea if -- in Colorado -- a "hit" from a cadaver dog, in and of itself, would provide probable cause for a warrant. I also do not know whether police would have to include any information about the cadaver dog's training and experience in the affidavit.

** The Daily Mail's track record with regard to accuracy is not spotless, so this exercise may be academic only.

Thank you @lamlawindy and also to @ivegotthemic for the explanations on this. Keeping fingers crossed that the CCSO did good by announcing they were NOT leading this search.

I hope that it all leads to finding Suzanne soon. We went through this a few months go with the construction site dig. Gut-wrenching.

 

[EggSalad]

I agree with all of this.

However, if dogs found the scent of human remains on BM’s property, and LE has had 24 hours to get a SW, why hasn’t it been executed? That’s my question I guess.

I’m guessing it is due to the logistics of getting all of the equipment and people there.

 

[Knox]

I asked myself why someone would pay $165,000 for a plain, flat untreed lot with those surroundings. Very unattractive IMO.

If you Google the address, there is a lot currently for sale there at the same price.
8355 Longhorn Dr, Salida, CO, 81201 | realtor.com®

 

[Hannah3105]

Does anyone else agree with my thinking on this or is it just me?

I thought the same thing

 

[skystarr]

Not exactly what John Denver would have called a "Colorado Rocky Mountain High".

When you are up in that gorgeous Colorado high country - it is exactly what John Denver meant and wrote in his songs !! Salida is gorgeous !!! All of that country is crazy gorgeous !!!!

 

[Knox]

This is classic Daily Mail right here, While it's looking very promising indeed, its a not very professional on their behalf, this is why they have such a bad rep, They do some great reporting at times but they also let them selves down at times.

Human remains have not been found at this time but that's not to say human remains are not there either, Just be honest.

But DM didn't say that, NG did and then retracted her tweet?

Actually, in this case they have scooped local media several times, JMO.

 

[TxGidget]

Why would a tree invoice be of any significance? A underground vault, possibly, but medium size landcaping trees?

I’ll never catch up, but I’m getting a money laundering vibe.