Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #42

[oviedo]

No about face here. At the beginning of this case, I set the over/under at 6 months, and said I was taking the over.

This is the exact type of case that tends to be a slog, as there isn’t a body.

I’m not understanding the concern in regards to the lack of an arrest at this point. I fully expect this to continue for a while.

Knowing who did it is different from having enough evidence to prove who did it. I’m completely confident they will get there.

Yep Cheryl cokers remains were found her STBX was POI and still no arrest - I thought 6 months now I’m thinking 8... unless there is some great forensic data in the coming weeks that tightens the timeline
JMO

 

[oviedo]

I think BM is incredibly lucky. I think his knowledge of area and his profession regarding rocks and sand and gravel give him an edge in where would be an ideal place to hide a body. Even a radius of a quarter of a mile from the place she was murdered would offer up thousands of places to hide a body.

Draw a circle with a radius on a map

I’ve considered 20 miles but feel it is much closer to home - it’s that control thing
JMO

 

[margarita25]

All I can think of is the McStay family.
Just shy of 4 years before they were found.
MOO.

I saw this Australian case yesterday, and thought of Suzanne. Let’s hope it doesn’t take this long, but it goes to your point:

“Now, after almost four decades of speculation, there’s been a break in the case. The police have arrested Chris Dawson, 70, and on Thursday he was charged in Sydney with the homicide of his wife. It was an “important step forward” toward justice for the Dawson family, said Mick Fuller, the New South Wales police commissioner.“

With Chris Dawson’s Arrest in Sydney Killing, Others Break Silence on Teacher Misconduct

 

[mom2chloe]

Some states allow a Wrongful death suits where the vicitms family can get monetary damages. Wrongful death statutes confer a right of action for the fact and consequences of the victim's death itself where such death results from the defendant's wrongful or negligent act. But you can only sue 1 person,1 time. Unfortunately there needs to be defintive proof the person has passed before a wrongful death suit can be brought

Potentially the Moorman family could sue BM in civil court IMO May not help Suzanne or the family but it would be sweet if they won and took away all of Barry’s toys and property. Peanut Butter and all! IMO

 

[skyedaze]

so I haven't said much here, just watching, because it's just so stressful...all the waiting....drives me nuts.
But...if reports of all of that bleach smell at the house (let alone a hotel room) are true....well that must be a heck of a lot of bleach! With laundry and cleaning bathrooms this weekend the bleach smell at my house was really strong but it was gone by later in the day.
So how much bleach hangs around long enough for law enforcement to notice and why would one need that much?....because he made a big mess!

I'm just not sure we are really going to find her or much of her sorry to say. I doubt he will say anything and he was the only other person there most likely.
He could have had a "place" ready for ages to put her with the equipment he has or has access to.

One thing that always stuck me as odd was the way the bobcat was just parked by the flatbed. IDK why, but it still strikes me as odd. If I recall correctly, the position it is in would be if it had been used at the house and driven back to load on the flat bed but never was loaded. For whatever reason, it just seems like it's weird to me. Was something else on the flat bed? Was the flatbed not there for a while. Why not just put it back on or park the bobcat in a different direction? It's just weird.
Sorry but he did it. He just did.
JMHO

 

[susiQ]

No about face here. At the beginning of this case, I set the over/under at 6 months, and said I was taking the over.

This is the exact type of case that tends to be a slog, as there isn’t a body.

I’m not understanding the concern in regards to the lack of an arrest at this point. I fully expect this to continue for a while.

Knowing who did it is different from having enough evidence to prove who did it. I’m completely confident they will get there.

BBM
Yes, I remember! I went with under, hoping for 5 months. The fact that LE honed in on the “duck” almost immediately, I felt they would bring it in under the 6 months. I must do an “about face.” However, like you, I’m still confident that an arrest will come but have learned to appreciate just how difficult a no body case can be when there’s no KK to spill the beans.

I take some consolation in noticing that BM is looking thin and haggard. I think Andy and the searchers did a real number on BM even though that was not their intent. Their goal was noble, to find Suzanne. They gave it their all. I’m not holding out much hope she’ll be found seeing just how many searches LE has executed as well, without our knowledge, and the vastness of the landscape in CO. Everyone has and likely still is, giving it their best to bring home justice for SM.

Except the “duck.”

 

[branmuffin]

I’ve considered 20 miles but feel it is much closer to home - it’s that control thing
JMO

Did you check out the tool for using a radius for a search area in the link?

 

[K9Enzo]

Potentially the Moorman family could sue BM in civil court IMO May not help Suzanne or the family but it would be sweet if they won and took away all of Barry’s toys and property. Peanut Butter and all! IMO

Sue in civil court in the hopes of a deposition from BM? Not sure if it works like that but an interesting thought (maybe). IMO

 

[bestill]

A bit off topic. Reading about the family of Suzanne being able to potentially bring a civil action lawsuit brought to mind that her father will at least be able to ensure that her portion of his inheritance goes as he wishes, BM won't be able to get it. Had he passed before her BM could have had access to that. IMO

 

[Gigi3]

I saw this Australian case yesterday, and thought of Suzanne. Let’s hope it doesn’t take this long, but it goes to your point:

“Now, after almost four decades of speculation, there’s been a break in the case. The police have arrested Chris Dawson, 70, and on Thursday he was charged in Sydney with the homicide of his wife. It was an “important step forward” toward justice for the Dawson family, said Mick Fuller, the New South Wales police commissioner.“

With Chris Dawson’s Arrest in Sydney Killing, Others Break Silence on Teacher Misconduct

Marg... I’ve been meaning to ask you, what’s that magic number I’ve seen you suggest in other missing persons cases? You’ve been pretty spot on in some, but I can’t remember the number! Thanks!

 

[ivegotthemic]

A bit off topic. Reading about the family of Suzanne being able to potentially bring a civil action lawsuit brought to mind that her father will at least be able to insure that her portion of his inheritance goes as he wishes, BM won't be able to get it. Had he passed before her BM could have had access to that.

Just to clarify if BM was arrested for SMs murder, he would loose his guardianship right over her property. At that point her Assets would go to the children, unless she has a will stating something different (but we have no way of knowing whether one does or doesnt exist). SMs family cant file a suit until SM has been found and BMs been convicted of the murder and they would need to meet the legal standards for the statute in CO (which I am not familiar with) They could sue at that point but honestly I dont think it would be necessary because he would no longer have access to assets and since at his age I assume whatever sentence he got he would for the remainder of his days, the girls would probably be in charge of handling his half of the estate (unless he has a power of attorney or other document set up) So at that point they wouldnt be hurting BM, theyd be hurting the girls so it doesnt seem likely to me. This type of statue is usually used between parties who arent related, and as such would not have assets transferring among parties in the same family

 

[margarita25]

Marg... I’ve been meaning to ask you, what’s that magic number I’ve seen you suggest in other missing persons cases? You’ve been pretty spot on in some, but I can’t remember the number! Thanks!

Thanks for remembering.

22-28 miles/minutes.

This is dependent on certain case factors, often random abductions, SA’s, etc. I’m not sure I would go with that formula here. I haven’t really dug in yet, but from I what I understand, there is a wide possible timeline? Still trying to get situated around the facts. Also, this terrain is a different beast. I’m actually working on a distance mileage time radius thingy.

 

[Gigi3]

BBM:

Well, that's certainly not the prevailing sentiment here at La Casa Gordian, I can assure you of that.

Frankly, I'm appalled at the suggestion that LE has been twiddling their thumbs for the past 4 months.

To review:

CHAFFEE COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE

<snip>

The Suzanne Morphew Missing Person Investigative Task Force remains dedicated to determining what happened to Suzanne. “The level of commitment from the entire team from the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office, CBI and FBI investigators is unprecedented and unparalleled,” said Sheriff John Spezze. “While the public may not see all of the effort being put forth in this case, I can assure the community that this investigation continues to move forward.”

The Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office is dedicated to assigning financial and staffing resources to this case, as leads continue to be extensively followed up on by investigators. “The investigative task force remains resolved in their commitment to finding Suzanne, and our hearts go out to her family and friends,” said Sheriff Spezze.

Anyone with information that could assist law enforcement in locating Suzanne Morphew is encouraged to call 719-312-7530.

Suzanne Morphew missing person Investigative Task Force Recap since May 10:

• 1,123 Total tips called to the designated tip line (includes hang-ups and duplicates).
• 180 Interviews conducted in Colorado, Indiana and other locations. This number does not take into account the hundreds of other contacts made between investigators and individuals as part of this case since May.
• 130+ Searches conducted (including warrants, which remained sealed at this time)
• 4,000+ Hours spent by Task Force investigators on the case.

______________________________

That doesn't look like nothing to me.

Those numbers ain't zeros.

The fact that we haven't seen an arrest to date doesn't mean that LE has not made progress to date.

LE can't always provide the public with instant gratification in the form of an immediate arrest.

Investigations take time.

JMO.

I have no doubt that after AM’s latest search efforts that many more tips have been generated.

SM may not have been found, but I don’t think AM left with nothing. I think that information about the domestic violence will be very important, among other things that he managed to uncover. I have great hope that this is very far from over. JMO.

 

[LietKynes]

I’ve considered 20 miles but feel it is much closer to home - it’s that control thing.
JMO

bbm
Yep. ^^^

Graphic comment :



How much do you want to bet (figuratively) BM goes out to 'check' on her and the burial site at some point--- to make sure no one has disturbed his "scene" ?
Because he controls this.

So for a looong time now LE will have their eyes on him and his cronies.
Watching where he travels to, and with whom he speaks.
Not as if they're bugging his home or condo.
Just observing him.
( You know, that same pesky LE who mishandled evidence and allowed ten cops to touch her bike, etc.? )
You don't get away with much in this world anymore, even more so now with electronic devices.
Imo.

 

[BeckyF]

1. Consider long and hard whether speaking to investigators is a good idea. Ask yourself:
* Can talking to them hurt me in any way?
* Can talking to them help me in any way?


2. Always consult an attorney. Do not speak to investigators w/o a lawyer.

3. If you -- after consulting an attorney -- decide to speak to investigators, make sure that counsel is present during questioning.

4. If at all possible, get permission for your attorney to record the interview (the investigators will be recording it as well, but they have no obligation to share a copy of the recording with you).

I agree completely with all you stated and I’ve felt this way for a long time.

 

[LietKynes]

Potentially the Moorman family could sue BM in civil court IMO May not help Suzanne or the family but it would be sweet if they won and took away all of Barry’s toys and property. Peanut Butter and all! IMO

Agreed.
Esp. properties/monies that initially belonged to Suzanne, that BM had to possibly coerce his daughter into signing over.
Smh.

 

[Gigi3]

Thanks for remembering.

22-28 miles/minutes.

This is dependent on certain case factors, often random abductions, etc. I’m not sure I would go with that formula here. I haven’t really dug in yet, but from I what I understand, there is a wide possible timeline? Still trying to get situated around the facts. Also, this terrain is a different beast. I’m actually working on a distance mileage time radius thingy.

Thanks! I will be interested to see your findings once you’ve got more information. I still think that number could be true here. JMO.

 

[kkdj]

Thanks! I will be interested to see your findings once you’ve got more information. I still think that number could be true here. JMO.

I think it might be too, depending on where she was killed. I would think most people want to get rid of a body pretty quickly. But then we have LS who drove a body cross country so who knows?

 

[margarita25]

Thanks! I will be interested to see your findings once you’ve got more information. I still think that number could be true here. JMO.

Thank you.

I would expect a more organized and thorough disposal here, for various reasons. Not a “leave along the side of the road or ditch” (obviously, as she hasn’t been found), like in some random child/female abductions with an SA motive, for example. Again, what really stands out most to me is his various skills, hunting, firefighting (infinite skills associated with firefighting), construction and occupation type factors wrt to tools, etc. I would include his awareness space, which is another reason I’m very, very interested in which fires he’s fought, as well as hunting lands, etc. If anyone knows, please let me know. Obviously job sites have been assessed.

Re: the Broomfield hotel, how does that factor into all this is another question. I have many, many questions, much of which can be answered by me catching up. I’m hunting for the most detailed current timeline right now.

Again, sorry for any rehash, I’ve been very busy in the Covid threads. I can’t keep up with you guys.

 

[Minordetails]

For many of us, it’s obvious - BM looks like he killed his wife.

LE knows way more than we do. It should be even more obvious to them, shouldn’t it?

But what if it isn’t? Could having more information, including BM’s GPS and phone records, 30 hrs of testimony and 180 interviews actually make things more complicated to the point where it’s less obvious ‘who done it?’

What’s the hold up?

Edit: some one promise me that BM will be arrested in the next 12 months and I’ll delete this post.