Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #42

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Well, there ya go, Magz.

And infuriatingly, Fox21 Colorado refuses to open on my iPad.
Other Fox News sites, no problem -- just the Colorado one! :mad:

Alrighty then, going back into lurk and study mode. Thanks for playing along folks. Going to see what maps you guys have in the media thread. I seem to have lost you guys on the Reverse Rossmo thing :D
 
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Alright, getting close. I added an eta above as a thought, but I don’t think there has been any mention of that, (firehouse), but I’ve been wondering about it, which is why I added a question mark.

So.

1. House
2. Hotel
3. Longhorn Ranch Property
4. Construction site with beach
5. .

The only one here I know that can do Rossmo’s Theory is @shadowraiths; (not sure if @dotr has ever tried)

@MassGuy, you any good with math? Posting the formula, standby (in case we get a 5th data point)


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Was it White Pine CO where he layed on the ground?
 
  • #664
Sorry, I didn't know CCSO had ruled out an abduction.
 
  • #665
Was it White Pine CO where he layed on the ground?

1. House
2. Hotel
3. Longhorn Ranch Property
4. Construction site with beach
5. Poncha Springs Store
6. Photo location - White Pine, CO?

Other reference quotes:
There was also a dumpster that BM and SM spoke to a cleaning lady while on a walk during the week. It was in the neighborhood. The cleaning lady was servicing a rental property such as an AirBNB.
Crap, it's going to take me a while to go back to remind myself.

He said he was going to go home to "make the wife happy", but instead, ended up spending that afternoon in town. (Buying supplies or something?)

Dumpster was after she went missing, when he was (supposedly) searching for her/things, and when he scribbled the note about the helmet, biking clothes.

*Note -- this is just off the top of my head -
- still need to verify.
So Morgan said she heard he spent the day in town, but there are two problems:

She heard this second hand

We don’t know the timing of this

The note was left on May 12.

“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #666
Alright, getting close. I added an eta above as a thought, but I don’t think there has been any mention of that, (firehouse), but I’ve been wondering about it, which is why I added a question mark.

So.

1. House
2. Hotel
3. Longhorn Ranch Property
4. Construction site with beach
5. .

The only one here I know that can do Rossmo’s Theory is @shadowraiths; (not sure if @dotr has ever tried)

@MassGuy, you any good with math? Posting the formula, standby (in case we get a 5th data point)


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How about the stop when he went and picked up one of his workers? Just thinking out loud......
 
  • #667
IIRC Picked up MG on way to river front house on Sat. 5/9.
 
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Magz, (and everyone)
here is the fabulous timeline
posted previously by our great
@OldCop

>>>>>>>>>>
Updated timeline for the days surrounding SM’s disappearance. We are limiting the dates to those put forth by LE when they requested that area residents save their video footage: May 8-12, 2020.

Friday 5/8/20

Evening, exact time unknown:
-BM works at “beach area” at Salida dig site (MG)

Saturday 5/9/20

A.M.:
-BM & MG at Salida dig site. MG states BM was acting unusual. MG is supposed to rake out beach area that BM had worked on the night before. (MG). BM picked up MG (unverified) to bring her there.

11:00 a.m.:
-BM tells MG to go home. He tells her he has to go home to make wife “happy” and take her hiking or biking. (Did BM drop off MG?)

12:30 p.m. : (conflicting information, time not verified, could be later in the day, or even earlier)
-SM is talking with BFF on a message app or FB when suddenly she stops replying.

Afternoon, exact time unknown:
-BM makes contact with JP and hires him for a Broomfield job on Sunday. According to JP, this was an in person meeting in Salida.
-MG states that BM was seen shopping around town. (Unverified)

Evening, exact time unknown:
-SM’s bff receives texts that seem “unusual” from SM
-Friends of BM receive FB friend requests from SM

11:30 p.m.:
-A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour. BM has been hired to do prep work for a foundation pour at this site. This is the same site where he is also prepping the “beach area”. This is the job site that was later searched by FBI teams.

Sunday 5/10/20

5:00 a.m.:
-BM allegedly leaves SM sleeping and heads to a job in Broomfield, CO approximately 3 hours from his home in Maysville. The job allegedly consists of a repair to a wall that BM had completed the previous September and that had structural problems.

A.M. Exact time unknown:
-BM checks into the HIE in Broomfield.
-According to MG, BM contacts her and asks her to get a crew together to head to Broomfield for the job. MG stated that BM sounded like he had the worst night of his life. ?

Approximately Noontime:
-BM calls JP to confirm Broomfield job.

5:46 p.m.:
-SM is reported missing by a neighbor. SM’s daughters allegedly contacted her and said they were worried because they hadn’t been able to reach their mother. Exact details are unclear, but neighbor checked the house and did not find SM but noted her car was there. According to BM in his TD interview, the neighbor then contacted him and he asked her to go back and check if her bike was there. The neighbor checked, returned home, and called BM on her landline and told him the bike was gone. BM asked her to call LE.

Approximately 6:00 p.m.:
-LE arrives at the Morphew home where they are met by the neighbor who reportedly told them that SM had not returned from a bike ride.
-LE begins a search. Dog teams from the prison and County SAR teams are called in. (CCSO)
-BM started home to Maysville. (TD)

After 6:00 exact time unknown:
-JP, MG, and a third worker arrived at the HIE in Broomfield. It is not clear if all 3 travelled together. JP and MG both report that there was an intense smell of chlorine in the room and several wet towels on the floor. JP stated that it looked like someone had laid down on the bed, on top of the bedspread. MG stated that the bed looked like it had been slept in and remade.
-BM let workers know that he had left for a family emergency and that they were on their own. Workers allegedly found some of BM’s tools in a “hotel cart”. MG stated they looked like a bunch of tools from the back of BM’s truck. Both JP and MG indicated they had neither the correct tools nor the materials to do the job.

Sometime before 9:00 p.m. :
-LE allegedly finds SM’s bike down a hill about a quarter of a mile from her home. (Never verified by LE). There is no sign of SM. The Morphew home is allegedly sealed off.
-Friend(s) of BM arrive at search area (unverified)

Approximately 9:00 p.m.:
-BM arrives home.
-Friend(s) tell BM that SM’s bike was found and that LE mishandled the scene/evidence. (BM to TD)

(At some point, either Sunday night or Monday, volunteer firefighters were told not to participate in the official searches. BM told TD in a later video that his friend tried to stop LE from mishandling the evidence, which may have been the reason that they were not allowed to participate further.)

Monday 5/11/20

Time unknown:
-Concrete foundation is poured at the Salida dig site.

A.M.:
-Search resumes after overnight break. Over 100 LE are eventually involved including LE on foot, drones, divers, aircraft, SAR, Swift Water Rescue units, and various canines.
-BM calls MG crying and tells her SM is missing and that either a mountain lion got her or she was abducted. He stated they were going up the mountain to search. He tells MG and JP to stay in Broomfield and wait for supplies to be delivered for the job.

PM.:
-AM arrives in town to help look for his sister, meets with BM and some friends, and they formulate a plan to search for SM the following day.

Tuesday 5/12/2020

A.M.:
-LE continue their search. No request for volunteers was made.
-BM, AM, and friends divide into teams to search. They were not allowed to search where LE was actively searching, but could cover area already searched. AM and BM we’re on separate teams. At one point, a member of AM’s team separated from the group. They backtracked to try to find him. He was later located back at the home where BM was staying. (On the following Thursday, 5/14/2020, a personal article belong to SM, was found about 20 yards from the trail where AM’s team was searching. Were they meant to find it? Was it placed there by the disappearing team member?)

Exact time unknown:
-MG, JP, and possibly one other person arrived back in Salida after no supplies were delivered to complete the job in Broomfield.
-MG was allegedly approached by two individuals connected to BM, (TN and GD), who told her she would not be paid for her time in Broomfield because it would look like hush, hush, money. MG also implied that she was asked not to cooperate with LE or turn over her phone.

8:00 p.m.:
-BM was observed by an employee of the Poncha Market digging in a trash can. (The market had closed at 7:00 p.m.) Upon being questioned, BM states he is looking for a bike helmet.

Shortly thereafter, BM taps on market window and when they let him in he stated that his wife was missing. When asked for a description he wrote a note on a crumbled receipt. The note said:

Baby Blue bike

helmet


Biking clothes

(No further description)


By Tuesday or Wednesday, CCSO has asked CBI and FBI for assistance.

Updated timeline was constructed based on LE info, MSM reports, and suggestions from fellow WS’ers. All additional comments/corrections are welcome. We may have additional information to plug in after the search this week.
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***This was posted by OldCop
on Thread #37 ***
 
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Alrighty then, going back into lurk and study mode. Thanks for playing along folks. Going to see what maps you guys have in the media thread. I seem to have lost you guys on the Reverse Rossmo thing :D

BBM
NAh! We're interested! Keep it coming!
 
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btw -- so the Poncha Market and the scribbled note are the same day/time/area...
now just not sure if he was digging through a trash can, or dumpster.

eta: Perhaps both.
 
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DBM
 
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Sorry, I didn't know CCSO had ruled out an abduction.
They have never officially come out and said “we do not believe Suzanne was abducted.”

If you follow potential kidnapping cases, the FBI has a playbook. That includes publishing a recent photo, releasing a physical description, and explaining the circumstances surrounding the disappearance. Local law enforcement, and state law enforcement, behave the same way.

We saw this done in both the Watts and Berreth (Colorado) cases (despite neither ultimately being abductions). They took no chances.

We saw none of that here.

We saw a lone press conference days after Suzanne’s disappearance, as opposed to immediately.

We saw two search warrants executed on the house, as well as an intensive three day excavation of Barry’s job site.

Barry himself has claimed that he has undergone 30 hours of interviews. We’ve heard about his vehicle being seized, as well as his cell phone.

He’s accused law enforcement of ruining his life, and screwing up evidence (bike).

That tells me that he’s the prime suspect, and he knows it.

So it is my opinion that there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that law enforcement believes an abduction occurred here.
 
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1. Consider long and hard whether speaking to investigators is a good idea. Ask yourself:
* Can talking to them hurt me in any way?
* Can talking to them help me in any way?


2. Always consult an attorney. Do not speak to investigators w/o a lawyer.

3. If you -- after consulting an attorney -- decide to speak to investigators, make sure that counsel is present during questioning.

4. If at all possible, get permission for your attorney to record the interview (the investigators will be recording it as well, but they have no obligation to share a copy of the recording with you).

what sucks about all this is even if you are innocent and just there to interview/testify, you can still end up spending thousands of dollars on legal fees. It’s really unfair.
 
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I had never heard of Rossmo’s Theory before.

From what I can gather though, it applies to serial offenders. I don’t see an application for a single crime (highly personal).

It’s used to determine where a serial offender lives.

I had not heard of it either. I just quickly read a synopsis and understood it the same way. Profiling for serial offenders; rape, murder, & arson type crimes.

I have said all along that I believe he checks on SM. Be it a small memorial or a place he guards from afar. He is too controlling to drop and leave and then hope for the best.
 
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I had not heard of it either. I just quickly read a synopsis and understood it the same way. Profiling for serial offenders; rape, murder, & arson type crimes.

I have said all along that I believe he checks on SM. Be it a small memorial or a place he guards from afar. He is too controlling to drop and leave and then hope for the best.

It IS for profiling of serial offenders. :)

The point was to apply the same idea towards a disposal site, with the variables/formula modified accordingly. Geographic profiling has data points. The point was to use “known data points” here as well. I apologize I wasn’t more clear in the original post.

Carry on :)

(eta: WS link re: Geographic Profiling / see my links/comments re: Rossmo, “THE HOUND OF THE DATA POINTS“, Nigel software, etc.:
Geographic Profiling )
 
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Sorry, I didn't know CCSO had ruled out an abduction.
Well, they haven't actually said they ruled it out. About two months ago in a press release, LE stated, "Until we determine what happened to Suzanne, we can't discount any scenario or formally eliminate anyone from suspicion."
 
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I’m reminded tonight, after watching the new Netflix documentary on the murders of Shanann, Bella, CeCe and Nico Watts, that when a man murders his current or ex partner, it is (as per the documentary end credits) nearly always premeditated.

IMO, Barry did plan this, his motive was purely financial and although pretty much all of his behaviour has been sloppy, his disposal of Suzanne wasn’t sloppy. He has her hidden incredibly well.

I hope for her daughters sake that she is found and that Barry is held accountable.

So many will be over joyed when BM is arrested.
Here, WS will break down, due to numerous 'Happy' posts.
However, family, friends, neighbours and us, here, are still waiting.:(:(
 
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