Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #43

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When you get right down to it, why was Barry inside any hotel room in Broomfield? Was he bunking with JP? Why would he want to share a room with a man that he describes as a meth head? Is he that cheap that he can’t get his own room? If he got to Broomfield on Sunday, and had so much prep work to do, what was he doing inside JP’s room at any point? Regardless of the wet towels, the bleach smell, the mail in the trash, I just don’t understand what he was doing in a hotel room on Mother’s Day. Did he take a shower and put the contents of his truck bed into a hotel cart right before heading home, or did he spend the day watching television and establishing an alibi at the HIE?
 
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Husband Of Missing Colorado Woman Adamantly Denies Involvement In Disappearance
Video (I have an ********** so I can’t watch it)
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In the interview, Moorman revealed for the first time that he believes Suzanne was killed sometime on the Saturday night before she was reported missing.

“She was seen in town with Barry getting a sandwich at 4 p.m.,” Moorman said. “At midnight, somebody friended all of the guys my age on her Facebook at midnight.”

Moorman told Dr. Phil that he believes Suzanne was killed sometime after 4 p.m. and then someone involved manipulated her Facebook account — but it’s not clear who or why.

Moorman also said that the date on Barry Morphew’s vehicle does not correspond with the timeline he gave police about his activity on Sunday morning.
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Suzanne Morphew’s brother shares new details about her last known sighting and strange activity on his sister’s Facebook page hours before she was reported missing
@OldCop timeline info
Kinda funny. Divine justice. BM hung himself with FB. Trying to show Suzanne was online he ends up alerting others and LE by doing something Suzanne wouldn’t and hadn’t. I hope, trust and pray they have his phone and/or computer and hence evidence/proof via a digital footprint.
As AM stated - whoever did that, killed her.

And to make things worse, his truck footprint just incriminated his whereabouts and alibi.
 
  • #484
When you get right down to it, why was Barry inside any hotel room in Broomfield? Was he bunking with JP? Why would he want to share a room with a man that he describes as a meth head? Is he that cheap that he can’t get his own room? If he got to Broomfield on Sunday, and had so much prep work to do, what was he doing inside JP’s room at any point? Regardless of the wet towels, the bleach smell, the mail in the trash, I just don’t understand what he was doing in a hotel room on Mother’s Day. Did he take a shower and put the contents of his truck bed into a hotel cart right before heading home, or did he spend the day watching television and establishing an alibi at the HIE?

None of it makes any sense whatsoever. The only way it makes any sense is if he would have called JP after he got word of Suzanne being missing, and told him "hey I've had a family emergency, I have to leave but I have a room already can you come up here and oversee the work and the crew?"

But we already know that's not what happened. So it's all super fishy!
 
  • #485
MOO He wasn't actually talking down, he was using "talking down" to avoid detail.
I completely respect your opinion. I am jaded. I am a woman who has been "talked down" to throughout my whole life just because I am female. In my own personal opinion BM seems to consider himself superior to most. I think he has little respect for women. I do not know him personally, he just reminds me of others I do know. That's why I wonder if his statement reflects this during the LS interview. I could be way off base. Its just MOO. In my mind he had a wife, daughters, mom and a female worker who he could use as tools to manipulate and control. In his mind they were weaker mentally and physically. He likes women who fall in line. All just my opinion.

* I am not bashing men. I know plenty of women who are just as manipulative, controlling and think they are far superior to everyone. I hope nobody takes offense. I do not mean to be offensive.
 
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Kinda funny. Divine justice. BM hung himself with FB. Trying to show Suzanne was online he ends up alerting others and LE by doing something Suzanne wouldn’t and hadn’t. I hope, trust and pray they have his phone and/or computer and hence evidence/proof via a digital footprint.
As AM stated - whoever did that, killed her.

And to make things worse, his truck footprint just incriminated his whereabouts and alibi.

If Barry did the FB friend requests at midnight, I’d bet his internet connection is recorded somewhere. If from her account, he had to know her log in credentials or they were set on automatic. I’d bet he doesn’t know her login password off the top of his head. So he’d have to be at home. On the house computer. Or on her phone which would ping at that time. Tech help needed here.
 
  • #487
Is today's Dr Phil segment posted here already? Would love to watch.
I scrolled through our TV guide and think that the show may be on the OWN channel next Tuesday at 10 a.m. central (S19/Ep12). If that's the correct episode, it is on several times next week.
 
  • #488
Holy crap. Early on Barry called Gene and basically said “I loved your daughter, and I need you to sign some paperwork.”

Chris says this was in relation to the guardianship.

BBM
Thank you for posting this. Unfortunately, I missed the Dr Phil show yesterday but when I saw the quote “I lovED your daughter” it took me back 10+ years ago to what TMH said to Desiree Young, just 3 days after 7-year-old Kyron Horman vanished from his elementary school.

TMH: “I lovED your son”.
 
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  • #489
Pure Speculation and Absolutely My Opinion: I've asked my husband (who was in Colorado with AM's group) if AM said anything about the girls. (No, just that he hadn't talked to them.) I've wondered aloud more than once about why they are still there and what in the world BM has told them about their mother. More than likely he simply doesn't talk to them about her or what happened - at all. My suspicion is that the mind control of domestic abuse absolutely extends to the girls. If, as was speculated, BM was monitoring SM's phone/computer activity then I imagine he's doing the same with the girls. I'll bet he's also told them he can track them anywhere, if they try to leave. Just makes me sick to think about...
IMO, kids want to believe their parents, even in the face of what is obvious to the most casual observer. Case in point: O. J. Simpson and Drew Peterson. There are many other cases where I am totally astonished at how much the kids remain in denial.

BM controls the purse strings (more than likely). So, the girls, at this point, might be forced to go along to get along. As time goes on and they become more independent, they might be able to see the truth more clearly.
 
  • #490
Side topic: Since we should and mostly do use initials, I made a list of some key players in the case. I was getting confused, so I made myself a reference sheet. All have been referenced in MSM.

Sharing as perhaps it may help others or those new to the case.

SM - Suzanne Morphew

BM - Barry Morphew

PE - Profiling Evil (YouTube show)

CM - Chris McDonough (Profiling Evil)

MK - Mike King (Profiling Evil)

MG - Morgan Gentile (BM Worker)

JS - John Schmitz (ex co-worker from Indiana, argued with BM)

GD - George Davis (BM close friend)

JR - Jean Ritter (neighbor who first checked on SM not home)

MB - Mary Branson (Heard noise near new Construction site)

TN - Trevor Noel (Suzanne’s nephew)

TD - Tyson Draper (early video with BM explaining how it happened)

JP - Jeff Puckett (BM worker)

CC - Cassidy Cordova (BM worker)

AM - Andy Moorman (Suzanne’s brother)

GM - Gene Moorman (Suzanne’s father)

MM - Mallory Morphew (SM & BM daughter)

MM - Macy Morphew (SM & BM daughter)

LS - Lauren Scharf (Fox21 reporter)

TIG - John Tiegen (Benghazi survivor, security expert, helped AM’s search)

PM - Poncha Market

LR - Longhorn Ranch (BM new home site)

HIE - Holiday Inn Express Broomfield

? Unknown - SM texting friend

? Unknown - Salida sighting Saturday

?? Unknown - 2 people SM sighting Sunday (per BM)

Great list! Thanks for compiling it.
I think one other name that should be added is TS = Troy Skinner. BM’s friend since middle school who has done interviews with MSM.

Source: Two months into search for missing Chaffee County mother, investigators “aggressively working this case” | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #491
MOO He wasn't actually talking down, he was using "talking down" to avoid detail.

Adding to my own post.
Hearing BM on the call to LS, I was struck with how talkative and blabby BM is. He is a run on arguer, and MOO would have overwhelmed SM with a barrage of words any time her opinion differed from his.
MOO he is not stoic, reserved or private he is just hiding.
 
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Adding to my own post.
Hearing BM on the call to LS, I was struck with how talkative and blabby BM is. He is a run on arguer, and MOO would have overwhelmed SM with a barrage of words any time her opinion differed from his.
MOO he is not stoic, reserved or private he is just hiding.

You're right. I think people who know him, know that it is just easier to agree with him. There would be no winning an argument with BM.
 
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When you get right down to it, why was Barry inside any hotel room in Broomfield? Was he bunking with JP? Why would he want to share a room with a man that he describes as a meth head? Is he that cheap that he can’t get his own room? If he got to Broomfield on Sunday, and had so much prep work to do, what was he doing inside JP’s room at any point? Regardless of the wet towels, the bleach smell, the mail in the trash, I just don’t understand what he was doing in a hotel room on Mother’s Day. Did he take a shower and put the contents of his truck bed into a hotel cart right before heading home, or did he spend the day watching television and establishing an alibi at the HIE?
JP going to work on Sunday for a job on Monday, which he could get to by 7am simply by leaving early on Monday, doesn't make any kind of work sense.
 
  • #494
There were a couple of points that AM clarified on Dr. Phil that have been the subject of some considerable speculation:

He stated the daughters were on a church camping trip. That would seem to indicate that it wasn't something that was planned by BM, but just happened to fall on that weekend. I don't think that rules out premeditation, but does at least answer that question, IMO.

He also stated that the neighbor came over and went into the garage and looked for the cars, which were there (almost sounded like the neighbor either had a key or was given the key code to get into the garage?) It was BM that asked about the bike, and she went back over to check on that.

AM also talked about how BM was committed to the mountain lion story - didn't want to hear that AM wasn't buying it. This, IMO, also seems to indicate that the mountain lion story was the original narrative being pushed by BM. I believe once that wasn't received by anyone, he threw out the abduction theory. I still believe it's possible that the additional article (likely the helmet) that was recovered near the road was placed there by BM or an accomplice after the mountain lion narrative died on the vine (to help "sell" the abduction theory, possibly?) While risky, if they threw it out a car window on Monday evening, I think it fits the timeline - and depending on when it was recovered - might have been possible. It just doesn't make sense as part of a mountain lion narrative - though BM should have realized that was weak to begin with.

MOO, JMO.

Respectfully, that wasn’t my interpretation. IIRC, BM did not originate the lion story, he did latch on to it, as gruesome as that sounds. Lions do not torture their victims. The abduction theory could have involved a sadistic perpetrator who while keeping her alive, could have been doing unthinkable things to her. He actually said that to AM.
I believe this came from one of AMs interviews.
AM was basically explaining that the lion theory did NOT originate with BM, also, IIRC, AM stated emphatically, that there were reports of a lion in the area...
all above is my recollection from AM interview, will try to cite them.
 
  • #495
Did Dr. Phil say who verified the sighting at the sandwich shop? Is it the same person who said they thought they saw SM in the car early on, but it turned out not to be Suzanne? Maybe eventually LE verified it was her and that's what they meant when they said the last time she was seen was later than they thought?

I wonder if AM ever looked into the claims by BM that Suzanne was seen by two people on Sunday.
I usually take "eye witness" accounts of seeing someone on a certain date with a grain of salt. For example, I recall several eye witnesses testifying at Vince Doan's murder trial about seeing his girlfriend, Carrie Culbertson, and her vehicle in the days and months after she went missing. He murdered her and enlisted the help of his brother in the disposal of her body.

I just don't put as much weight into what people claim to see versus other evidence.

JMO.
 
  • #496
JP going to work on Sunday for a job on Monday, which he could get to by 7am simply by leaving early on Monday, doesn't make any kind of work sense.
I totally agree. My husband is a high level executive and has been known to leave early in the morning and drive for five hours to get to an afternoon meeting.
 
  • #497
IMO, kids want to believe their parents, even in the face of what is obvious to the most casual observer. Case in point: O. J. Simpson and Drew Peterson. There are many other cases where I am totally astonished at how much the kids remain in denial.

BM controls the purse strings (more than likely). So, the girls, at this point, might be forced to go along to get along. As time goes on and they become more independent, they might be able to see the truth more clearly.
bbm
Agreed.
It's sad for them both ... Suzanne may have left an inheritance for just them but that will now be controlled by BM which is the reason for seizing her assets and the guardianship petition.
So we may not hear from them for a long time.
Hopefully one day their eyes will be opened.
Imo.
 
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Respectfully, that wasn’t my interpretation. IIRC, BM did not originate the lion story, he did latch on to it, as gruesome as that sounds. Lions do not torture their victims. The abduction theory could have involved a sadistic perpetrator who while keeping her alive, could have been doing unthinkable things to her. He actually said that to AM.
I believe this came from one of AMs interviews.
AM was basically explaining that the lion theory did NOT originate with BM, also, IIRC, AM stated emphatically, that there were reports of a lion in the area...
all above is my recollection from AM interview, will try to cite them.

He threw BOTH theories out there and very cavalierly I might add. Tossing around the notion that cats drag their "prey" uphill... aka: the love of his life, his beloved, mother of his children, his wife. He spoke those words with as much emotion as I do when ordering a pastrami on rye... easy on the mustard.
 
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BBM
Thank you for posting this. Unfortunately, I missed the Dr Phil show yesterday but when I saw the quote “I lovED your daughter” it took me back 10+ years ago to what TMH said to Desiree Young, just 3 days after 7-year-old Kyron Horman vanished from his school.

TMH: “I lovED your son”.


IMO, this was a statement made after BM knew SM was dead, doesn’t mean he killed her. I tend to take a lot of AMs info with grain of salt... it’s possible BM was acting on behalf of SM and letting him know he would be handling the guardianship as she would have. There may be Moorman family issues requiring SM approval.
Gene May not be ready to accept that SM is dead.
Iirc he didn’t accuse BM of anything, he just refused to sign papers...
Guardianship papers could be about anything.
However, to require GMs signature, it had to be Moorman family issues.
The above is my interpretation, thus JMHO
 
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