Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #44

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I'm starting to believe that Barry has disposed of the body in a way that its going to be extremely unlikely she will ever be found. With all his years working in landscaping along with being an avid hunter, God only knows the amount of discreet off grid types of places that he's either travel to or worked on or near over all the years. His access to and knowledge of various different kinds of heavy machinery and equipment etc, There's a very good chance he's either put her somewhere or done something with the body to make it almost impossible to find.

His seemingly brazen attitude also makes me suspect he is confident she won't be found either. I hope i am wrong but that's the feeling i have at this time.

Agreed. I’ve suspected that for a while due to the excavation, and sound of heavy equipment the night before she was reported missing and his statements about the bobcat.

It’s possible they won’t be able to bring a no body case.
 
I’m with you on that. We don’t have corroboration yet as to the bleach smell in the house. So it’s not a fact that I consider when determining the probability of BM’s guilt.

In many of these cases we hear of “facts” that turn out not to be remotely accurate. And sometimes we hear of rumors that seem improbable and we discover later, were actually true.

At this point I’m pretty much off the fence and I believe Suzanne was likely murdered in her home. So the likelihood that the house smelled like bleach is great to me.

But we just don’t know. It is not a fact at this point.

I totally agree.

What makes the bleach smell at the Motel near Denver reliable information is that we have corroborating people all telling us the same thing from their first person account. As well as BM himself telling us the room smelled like bleach. So its pretty safe to assume there was in fact a bleach smell in that room.
How it got there is the only real debate for that one.

For the house bleach smell, we only have what would be deemed as "heresay" because we dont have the officer themselves that allegedly smelled it in the house. We only have one person really claiming they had spoken to that officer to know about it. This is the type of thing where we are faced with a choice on whether we believe it or not. For me personally, I think AM is a highly credible person that would not purposely lie about something like that so I choose to believe him for now until something comes up that could go against it.

One possibility that I do consider is maybe with all the confusion of talking to so many people, the officer may have been referring to the motel and maybe AM thought he was referring to the house so it could be an honest mistake. So if it is not accurate information, then an honest mistake would be the only reason I could see it not being true and that is a possibility to consider.
JMO
 
(Repost, I was editing as I was listening, so you might have missed all this. Wow.)

NEW "Crime Stories with NG":

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

(With Chris & Mike (PE) and Lauren S. + Ellen K. and Dr. Angela)

*Barry told Lauren that he was already on his way back home from Broomfield when he got the call about Suzanne being missing. Morgan and JP got to Broomfield at 11:00 am. Barry had already left Broomfield at 11am.

*Chris talked to a clerk at a supermarket (Poncha Market) who saw Barry (store was closed, early evening hours) going through the trash. Barry knocked on the door and said, "Hey, I'm looking for a baby blue bicycle helmet. Have you seen one in the trash?" The manager stepped in, and asked him how he/she could help, and that's when he wrote the note. This was Tuesday.

*There is a 30 minute conversation with Lauren that Barry would not let Lauren share. She shared from an hour long conversation they had after that one.

*There are 2 different time frames of when Barry heard about Suzanne being missing: 1.) 5 pm Sunday is what Barry says (to Lauren and Tyson), and that's when he left back to Salida. 2). His crew was called at 6:30 pm and told they'd they'd have to figure it out on Monday. (It was mentioned that MG and JP said it was 4pm when he learned she was missing, but it's very confusing at this part.)

*Morgan believes she heard Barry's truck at 4 am outside of her apartment (after the 4am texting), and she panicked and thought Barry was there to pick her up, so she got all her stuff together quickly and went outside. She got out there, and he was gone. She got a phone call from him shortly thereafter about getting the crew together, and that he was going up there by himself. The crew left Salida at about 6:30am, and when they got there, Barry was not there. (Morgan said Barry's truck has a very specific sound, which is why she thought it was him).

*The reason the timeline is impossible to put together is due to all the lies, and BM being the only person who's speaking about it. EVI does NOT match with what he's saying.

*Barry admitted to Lauren about the mechanical thing to the Bobcat, but he wouldn't tell her what. He was supposed to bring the Bobcat to Broomfield, but he didn't have it there.

*Nancy says, "If someone got on national TV and said I committed a murder, I would sue them." No attempts at any lawsuits against Andy, so far.
 
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Moormans apparently didn't know that BM hot temporary guardianship in Indiana UNTIL Dauly Mail, I believe, contacted them for a statement. Doesn't that imply that none of them, specifically Suzanne's father, was NOT contacted (by BM) PRIOR to that? And AFTER that, the call would be unnecessary because temp guardianship was already awarded, via the oldest daughter...

So.... I'm wondering if guardianship was an assumption but possibly NOT why BM called Suzanne's father.... did BM have OTHER papers he wanted signed? Hmmmm.... did Suzanne own anything in joint tenacity with her father? Like, say, a trust? Could there be other papers we just don't yet know about?

JMO
 
Re BBM
It would be awful and like most of us know it does happen sometimes where innocent people sometimes even end up convicted and sent to prison. Luckily it is not very common but we know it can happen which is why it is so very important that LE gets these cases right.

About all a person can do in that predicament is to come out and provide information that helps to prove their innocence. Whether that be in the courts or in the court of public opinion which is why it is important to study what is being said in the few times he has made any statements.

When I review what we have been told by him
it started with practically nothing for about a week. It was all "too soon" for him.
That did not help us understand why he could be innocent. So we waited and waited.

And finally we get a short under 30 second one-way video where no reporter could ask him any followup questions but at least he finally said something.

Since then, the message I am receiving is only him blasting others. Where is the content that helps us understand his innocence? Like explaining more about what and who he was with in Broomfield that could vouch for his whereabouts on Sunday? What time and day did he check in to that motel? How many rooms were reserved? Did he stay some time in the room that one of his workers found his insurance type papers? What were those papers? Why was he in that room to begin with?

You know, the important things that may help us to understand he had legitimate reasons to be in Broomfield and was actually working that day.

And what about who found the bike? Who exactly was it that found the bike that Sunday and what made them walk in that specific area? He sure knew about the bike's condition so he may know who found the bike and why they walked that specific area.

All I hear from his latest news is him throwing shade on others that he no longer thinks is on his side. How about providing some information that can help us understand why he is so innocent. Some real concrete and validateable information so we can get on his side.

It hasnt happened to date so I dont think its ever going to come. Its no wonder a lot of us cannot support him at this time. We have no basis to go in that direction.
JMO

What if LE has asked him to refrain from talking about his timeline for those few days? If they are trying to figure out who (and I think they already know if they think it's him or not), then maybe Barry not revealing anything LE hasn't mentioned is something they have asked him to do so they can trap or trip up someone else they are watching. I think that is very possible.
 
NEW "Crime Stories with NG":

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

(With Chris & Mike (PE) and Lauren S. + Ellen K. and Dr. Angela)

*Barry told Lauren that he was already on his way back home from Broomfield when he got the call about Suzanne being missing. Morgan and JP got to Broomfield at 11:00 am. Barry had already left Broomfield at 11am.

Chris talked to a clerk at a supermarket (Poncha Market) who saw Barry (store was closed, early evening hours) going through the trash. Barry knocked on the door and said, "Hey, I'm looking for a baby blue bicycle helmet. Have you seen one in the trash?" The manager stepped in, and asked him how he/she could help, and that's when he wrote the note. This was Tuesday.

There is a 30 minute conversation with Lauren that Barry would not let Lauren share. She shared from an hour long conversation they had after that one.

Different time frames of when Barry heard about Suzanne being missing: 1.) 5 pm Sunday is what Barry says (to Lauren and Tyson), and that's when he left back to Salida. 2). His crew was called at 630 pm and told they'd they'd have to figure it out on Monday. (It was mentioned that MG and JP said it was 4pm when he learned she was missing, but it's very confusing at this part.)

Morgan believes she heard Barry's truck at 4 am outside of her apartment (after the 4am texting), and she panicked and thought Barry was there to pick her up, so she got all her stuff together quickly and went outside. She got out there, and he was gone. She got a phone call from him shortly thereafter about getting the crew together, and that he was going up there by himself. The crew left Salida at about 6:30am, and when they got there, Barry was not there. (Morgan said Barry's truck has a very specific sound, which is why she thought it was him).

The reason the timeline is impossible to put together is due to all the lies, and BM being the only person who's speaking about it. EVI does NOT match with what he's saying.

Barry admitted to Lauren about the mechanical thing to the Bobcat, but he wouldn't tell her what. He was supposed to bring it to Broomfield, but he didn't have it there.

Nancy says, "If someone got on national TV and said I committed a murder, I would sue them." No attempts at any lawsuits against Andy, so far.
I thought JP told the DM he got to the hotel at around 6:00 pm? Where did the information come from that BM left Broomfield at 11:00 am? I thought he said he left after he spoke to the neighbor and he got back to Salida at around 6:00 pm. It doesn't make sense that the neighbor called 911 around 5:30 but BM was still on his way back when he heard SM was missing, after leaving at 11:00 am. This timeline is all over the place.
 
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(Repost, I was editing as I was listening, so you might have missed all this. Wow.)

NEW "Crime Stories with NG":

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

(With Chris & Mike (PE) and Lauren S. + Ellen K. and Dr. Angela)

*Barry told Lauren that he was already on his way back home from Broomfield when he got the call about Suzanne being missing. Morgan and JP got to Broomfield at 11:00 am. Barry had already left Broomfield at 11am.

*Chris talked to a clerk at a supermarket (Poncha Market) who saw Barry (store was closed, early evening hours) going through the trash. Barry knocked on the door and said, "Hey, I'm looking for a baby blue bicycle helmet. Have you seen one in the trash?" The manager stepped in, and asked him how he/she could help, and that's when he wrote the note. This was Tuesday.

*There is a 30 minute conversation with Lauren that Barry would not let Lauren share. She shared from an hour long conversation they had after that one.

*There are 2 different time frames of when Barry heard about Suzanne being missing: 1.) 5 pm Sunday is what Barry says (to Lauren and Tyson), and that's when he left back to Salida. 2). His crew was called at 6:30 pm and told they'd they'd have to figure it out on Monday. (It was mentioned that MG and JP said it was 4pm when he learned she was missing, but it's very confusing at this part.)

*Morgan believes she heard Barry's truck at 4 am outside of her apartment (after the 4am texting), and she panicked and thought Barry was there to pick her up, so she got all her stuff together quickly and went outside. She got out there, and he was gone. She got a phone call from him shortly thereafter about getting the crew together, and that he was going up there by himself. The crew left Salida at about 6:30am, and when they got there, Barry was not there. (Morgan said Barry's truck has a very specific sound, which is why she thought it was him).

*The reason the timeline is impossible to put together is due to all the lies, and BM being the only person who's speaking about it. EVI does NOT match with what he's saying.

*Barry admitted to Lauren about the mechanical thing to the Bobcat, but he wouldn't tell her what. He was supposed to bring the Bobcat to Broomfield, but he didn't have it there.

*Nancy says, "If someone got on national TV and said I committed a murder, I would sue them." No attempts at any lawsuits against Andy, so far.
Back to the time line.

Barry was already headed back to broomfield when he got the call????
 
I thought JP told the DM he got to the hotel at around 6:00 pm? Where did the information come from that BM left Broomfield at 11:00 am? I thought he said he left after he spoke to the neighbor and he got back to Salida at around 6:00 pm. It doesn't make sense that the neighbor called 911 around 5:30 but BM was still on his way back when he heard SM was missing, after leaving at 11:00 am. This timeline is all over the place.


I have no clue. I was just typing as I was listening, and it got SUPER confusing at that part. Even Nancy was like "woah woah woah." Lol. I'll go back and listen again and try to edit, but I attempted to make as much sense of it as I could.

(I see now that I left the 11am part out, bc it made no sense. But if MG and JP left Salida at 630am, they WOULD get to Broomfield around 11, so that makes sense. And Barry allegedly left Broomfield around 5, when he heard about her disappearance, putting him back in Salida at 9, as he told Tyson.)

But who knows!!
 
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NEW "Crime Stories with NG":

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

(With Chris & Mike (PE) and Lauren S. + Ellen K. and Dr. Angela)

RSBM

The timeline for Sunday has jumped so much it's unbelievable.
I was certain I'd read previously that JP stated they arrived in Broomfield around 6pm.
Now they arrived at 11am?
And if BM left Broomfield before 11am, where the heck was he all day until he showed up back in Maysville around 9pm (or 6pm, depending on which lie we're talking about).
Just maddening trying to follow this case.
 
I thought JP told the DM he got to the hotel at around 6:00 pm? Where did the information come from that BM left Broomfield at 11:00 am? I thought he said he left after he spoke to the neighbor and he got back to Salida at around 6:00 pm. It doesn't make sense that the neighbor called 911 around 5:30 but BM was still on his way back when he heard SM was missing, after leaving at 11:00 am. This timeline is all over the place.

"The Chaffee County Communications Center received a report on Sunday at 5:46 p.m. regarding a missing woman in the area of County Road 225 and West Highway 50." Chaffee County woman missing since Sunday after neighbor said she went out for bike ride

So... how about that timeline, eh? :mad:
 
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Back to the time line.

Barry was already headed back to broomfield when he got the call????
Not only that, but Barry wasn't at the hotel room when his workers arrived -- the workers left Salida at 6:30 AM Sunday, and would have gotten to Broomfield in 2.5 - 3 hours. So, at around 9:30 AM, BM was nowhere to be found?
 
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