Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #45

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  • #961
I wonder if that "neighbor" is the same one who owns the "cabin"/airbnb property behind Morphew's house, where BM may have stayed and I think Andy stayed in the days immediately following May 10.

Is that the house where BM placed and looked out windows? Originally I thought it was another... but maybe?

JMO
IMO, this neighbor is the wife of BM's good friend, and they just happen to live in Maysville. I don't know if they own a cabin in addition to their own home.
 
  • #962
Relative to the condition of the residence after the house released back to BM, there was a discussion about this on PE.

It's an episode where Lauren Scharf is the guest and she describes a conversation she had with a Morphew neighbor that also talked to the daughters on mother's day morning. (This is not the neighbor that called 911 to report SM missing). I believe BM complained about the condition of the house to her. LS states this neighbor has been inside the home.

I don't recall all the details but the interview is on PE. I believe it's the wedding anniversary episode.

she did tell me that she has been inside
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the morphe home
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since the investigators left and um
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she said um nothing seemed different
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she said although she's only been on the
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first floors
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she mentioned that after investigators
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handed over the house back to the
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morpheus
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there was quote cleaning and work to do
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and to put things back where they go is
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what she said in quotes
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um and where what part of the house
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do you know that's the first level so
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that's like the living room the kitchen
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area

 
  • #963
Barry has consistently tried to point away from that house, the listing emphasis continues that trend. Aside from that, I think they are targeting an investment clientele.

Right. Look over there, not here.
 
  • #964
I wonder if that "neighbor" is the same one who owns the "cabin"/airbnb property behind Morphew's house, where BM may have stayed and I think Andy stayed in the days immediately following May 10.

Is that the house where BM placed and looked out windows? Originally I thought it was another... but maybe?

JMO
That person is identified in one of the DM articles by name, it's the Mom of one of the daughters friends, IMO. Same article which describes the elder lady who went to the house for Barry.
 
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Photo's of the kitchen from the 2018 Realtor listing (Archive zillow).

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19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81201 | Zillow

That's a nice kitchen IMO. Nothing to be ashamed of.
 
  • #967
Oddly enough this is the first time i have come across a case where we have a potential murder house and i would not really be put off buying it. The only reason i say this is because from everything i have head and read about Suzanne she had a beautifully amazing spirit and i would not get bad vibes from the house. Pretty much every other house i can think of from past cases would freak me out but for some reason this one i get really peaceful vibes.
 
  • #968
To date, the conversation has been that whatever initially happened to SM that it occurred in the house.

What if during their out-and-about lunch that Saturday, BM asked SM to go with him to see a job site or otherwise take a drive to where ever? In this scenario BM could have acted out his intention, left SM at the location and maybe returned at a later date to hide the result or simply had done it all in one fell swoop.

A key element to this theory is knowing which vehicle the M's used that Saturday? Was it the truck with a digger in tow or was it one of their SUVs?

I'll just leave this here and watch the fireworks.... ;)
As of now I’m still on the fence about premeditation. For this to be premeditated one has to believe BM forgot to plan the aftermath properly, because the alibi was organized last minute in a very strange way. Sending texts to someone to assemble a crew for the Broomfield job around 4 am Mother’s Day seems unusual at the least.
Also because MG said originally this job would be done by the two of them. AFAIR I never clearly heard MG saying if the job really would have began Monday morning and only the number of people doing the job has suddenly changed or the starting date of the job was a surprise too. But I could be wrong on this. The interview with MG was much longer than LS could fit in her segment, so I always had this question somewhere in the back of my head.

There is of course the possibility BM planned this to some extent (like at least toyed with this idea some time in his mind without making a clear plan) and sized an opportunity which somehow suddenly presented itself and had to think on his feet from there. Like he suddenly found himself in an ideal place and time to make it happen. That could explain the need of the hasty alibi building and bad staging. This event could also have taken place at some other place than their home.

I must admit there is also an option this was planned all along, but the execution of the rest went wrong because of panic or guilt or fear of consequences or because of sheer stupidity. Or just plain old overconfidence in oneself and/or in the storyline he will present and/or in someone’s own credibility around town. This could have happened at home or somewhere else too.

Somehow I still hope something unusual happened, something went tragically wrong -but inexplainable without the danger of going to jail- and SM never saw this coming. This too could explain the bad alibi and staging. This I could imagine happening at home.

If I look at everything then to me the likelihood of something have happened at home is still greater because of those search warrants of the home, definitely because there was a second warrant which is much harder to get.

But you are right, if this happened outside the house then the vehicle used would be the key. Even if it happened at home.

Wow, sorry for the sheer length of this post.
 
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That's a nice kitchen IMO. Nothing to be ashamed of.
I agree, so must be something wrong with it. And not its style, because that wouldn’t be reason enough to omit it from the pictures presented.
 
  • #970
I think they cleared the house on the first search but I think they went back looking for something in the house. I really don’t think there was any physical damage to the home.
 
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Does anyone have the floor plan pics for the puma path home? I’ve been looking all over for them and can’t find them.
 
  • #973
Oddly enough this is the first time i have come across a case where we have a potential murder house and i would not really be put off buying it. The only reason i say this is because from everything i have head and read about Suzanne she had a beautifully amazing spirit and i would not get bad vibes from the house. Pretty much every other house i can think of from past cases would freak me out but for some reason this one i get really peaceful vibes.

I don’t worry about the house. I worry about a possible body being somewhere on the premises. For argument’s sake, What if Barry confesses 5 years from now, that Suzanne is buried under the patio? What happens?
 
  • #974
Maybe he wanted MG to assemble a crew because of the implications of him booking a hotel for Sunday night with a female worker. MOO
 
  • #975
I'm believing that an investigator told AM there was a smell of bleach in the home on mother's day. Therefore, there was a cleanup, there were fluids. I can imagine that tiles, grout, wooden cabinet doors, baseboards, carpets, sink elbows, were taken.
Moo
 
  • #976
That's a nice kitchen IMO. Nothing to be ashamed of.

I thought the same thing... I would be super happy with this kitchen. It fits the area, house... IMO.

Now...after what likely happened there, i don't think I could ever really appreciate the beauty of it as it is tainted...

However, the Watts house felt much creepier to me... I literally got goosebumps every time i watched video that included the interior of the house or pics.
 
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I'm believing that an investigator told AM there was a smell of bleach in the home on mother's day. Therefore, there was a cleanup, there were fluids. I can imagine that tiles, grout, wooden cabinet doors, baseboards, carpets, sink elbows, were taken.
Moo
 
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Maybe he wanted MG to assemble a crew because of the implications of him booking a hotel for Sunday night with a female worker. MOO
This is very likely. This is why IMO this most likely wasn’t a planned event.
 
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As of now I’m still on the fence about premeditation. For this to be premeditated one has to believe BM forgot to plan the aftermath properly, because the alibi was organized last minute in a very strange way. Sending texts to someone to assemble a crew for the Broomfield job around 4 am Mother’s Day seems unusual at the least.
Also because MG said originally this job would be done by the two of them. AFAIR I never clearly heard MG saying if the job really would have began Monday morning and only the number of people doing the job has suddenly changed or the starting date of the job was a surprise too. But I could be wrong on this. The interview with MG was much longer than LS could fit in her segment, so I always had this question somewhere in the back of my head.

There is of course the possibility BM planned this to some extent (like at least toyed with this idea some time in his mind without making a clear plan) and sized an opportunity which somehow suddenly presented itself and had to think on his feet from there. Like he suddenly found himself in an ideal place and time to make it happen. That could explain the need of the hasty alibi building and bad staging. This event could also have taken place at some other place than their home.

I must admit there is also an option this was planned all along, but the execution of the rest went wrong because of panic or guilt or fear of consequences or because of sheer stupidity. Or just plain old overconfidence in oneself and/or in the storyline he will present and/or in someone’s own credibility around town. This could have happened at home or somewhere else too.

Somehow I still hope something unusual happened, something went tragically wrong -but inexplainable without the danger of going to jail- and SM never saw this coming. This too could explain the bad alibi and staging. This I could imagine happening at home.

If I look at everything then to me the likelihood of something have happened at home is still greater because of those search warrants of the home, definitely because there was a second warrant which is much harder to get.

But you are right, if this happened outside the house then the vehicle used would be the key. Even if it happened at home.

Wow, sorry for the sheer length of this post.

I think you're misunderstanding what pre-meditation is.

As posted not too far above, a strangulation is pre-meditated (even if the person never thought about it before) because it takes 3-4 minutes to accomplish the murder, and the murderer had time to think it over.

Getting in one's car, starting it and then driving it toward another person is premeditation (even if the murderer didn't think about it even once before letting their foot off the brake and putting it into drive - even if they only meant to scare the other person). That can be just a few seconds.

Beating someone to death is usually charged as first degree for the same reasons as strangulation is.

Going to get a gun, taking it off safety and aiming it at another person, even if the gun user never thought one time of killing that other person, and even if the murderer claims "my finger slipped," is still premeditated murder in most US jurisdictions (and indeed, around the world).

Attempts to cover up one's actions after the fact lead fairly often to first degree convictions.

It doesn't take much. Being a bungling bumbling foolio and messing with a crime scene or trying to hide evidence (but doing it poorly) doesn't remove the premeditation part from the above examples. Most murderers mess up in the aftermath, and if there's any staging or clean-up at all, it is going to be hard for them to say it wasn't premeditated.

Because, you know, if you accidentally strangle your wife or accidentally shoot your gun in the house and it strikes your wife (or whatever), the first thing you do when you realize your "accident" is to call 911. Hiding the body shows a guilty mind and a guilty mind can also be evidence of premeditation. "Gee, I wish she were dead and look, my hands are around her neck!" is the essence of premeditation for most DV cases.
 
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