Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #45

[k-mac]

Barry didn't put much thought into selling the property when he was sprouting off about hungry mountain lions and bad bad kidnappers out there in those beautiful isolated bike trials did he.....

Maybe shoulda went with PLAN 1.... she absconded and took off for a new life with her lover that she reconnected with the night before on facebook .....hey barry......

moo

 

[LietKynes]

Or he was dropping her off at 4am.

And then started texting her the plan as he was driving to Broomfield.

Time to get out of Dodge ?
Wonder if it's true that those two men approached her and told her she didn't have to give her phone records to LE ?
Maybe more than BM had a busy weekend ?
Imo.

 

[MassGuy]

How could they be unaware when GM was called about it about 2 weeks after she was reported missing. Then asked about it almost 5 weeks later they were unaware?

Yes. They would be unaware that Barry filed guardianship paperwork as they weren’t involved in the process.

Barry contacted them early on, and they told him to pound sand. Unless Barry himself told them he found a workaround, then they’d have no idea the paperwork had been filed.

 

[ivegotthemic]

Yes. They would be unaware that Barry filed guardianship paperwork as they weren’t involved in the process.

Barry contacted them early on, and they told him to pound sand. Unless Barry himself told them he found a workaround, then they’d have no idea the paperwork had been filed.

Plus, other then a designated power of attorney, BM as the spouse is given the greatest priority over other family members when courts assign guardianship. So there would be no need to notify anyone else, the person with the strongest claim accepted the role

 

[Janeumayer]

Could Barry looking through the trash at la Poncha Market mean:

1. he had disposed of SM’s biking helmet there
2. was trying to recover it to
3. re-plant it down the road from the bike?

 

[gitana1]

100% agree. Last year, when my little sister was killed, I was going nonstop for a week. Everything was thrown on me to handle because my mother could not function, plus dealing with the tragedy with her young boys. I would certainly hate for someone to judge me on my appearance that week.

I can’t fathom what her brother must be going through, and I definitely can not judge him on his appearance. What I can say about him is that I think he’s a brave soul that has taken on a monumental task of trying to find his sister.
JMO.

Hugs to you, Gigi. My heart goes out to you. Thanks for your perspective.

 

[MassGuy]

Could Barry looking through the trash at la Poncha Market mean:

1. he had disposed of SM’s biking helmet there
2. was trying to recover it to
3. re-plant it down the road from the bike?

I actually think it was one of two different things, both of which involve him being spotted, and needing to come up with a plausible reason for being there:

He was disposing of evidence.

He made making sure that something he had previously disposed of, had in fact been removed (maybe Suzanne’s phone, or biking clothes he needed to get rid of to sell his narrative).

 

[Hatch]

Could Barry looking through the trash at la Poncha Market mean:

1. he had disposed of SM’s biking helmet there
2. was trying to recover it to
3. re-plant it down the road from the bike?

IMO he had left the disposal of that up to someone else and when he found out it was in a dumpster he went to retrieve it. Do we know if he actually found it? I think that is part of the Barrinastics we keep seeing.

 

[Janeumayer]

I actually think it was one of two different things, both of which involve him being spotted, and needing to come up with a plausible reason for being there:

He was disposing of evidence.

He made making sure that something he had previously disposed of, had in fact been removed (maybe Suzanne’s phone, or biking clothes he needed to get rid of to sell his narrative).

Whatever happened to the cctv? Was it collected or not? I seemed to recall it wasn’t. That LE or CBI came by but didn’t collect it.

ETA Found the answer: They did not!!!

CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #34
FOX21 News has confirmed the Sheriff’s Office asked people in Salida to save any video surveillance they may have captured between May 8 and May 12. However, a manager at Poncha Market said they did collect video surveillance, but law enforcement didn’t stop by their shop in time.

“We don’t have the video anymore because it deleted after two weeks – so we don’t have that, but I did talk with CBI, though, about the story,” Manager Tiffany Butala said.

That is why the Sheriff's office asked people to SAVE video.... (so it would NOT be deleted ) ...smh

CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #34
When we were finally able to discuss "the Note" that BM left at Poncha Springs Market after it was published by MSM (Fox21), there were questions about whether or not BM was captured on surveillance at the market.

I posed those questions to LS and shared her response here (thread #27?).

LS provided that BM was on store surveillance, and the surveillance was not in police custody because although the store manager reported the information to LE, they did not follow-up after two weeks and the surveillance was recycled.

I believe the store manager confirmed this information in last night's Fox21 report.

In other words, I believe the store manager contacted LE prior to their public request for videos for the period May 8 - 12, they were aware of the video and did not respond.

MOO

 

[al66pine]

What Papers did BM Ask GeneM to Sign? When?

Yes. They would be unaware that Barry filed guardianship paperwork as they weren’t involved in the process.
Barry contacted them early on, and they told him to pound sand. Unless Barry himself told them he found a workaround, then they’d have no idea the paperwork had been filed.

@MassGuy
In listening to today's Nancy G you linked earlier, I missed any stmt re BM asking GeneM to sign papers.

Ulitmately, my Q is who said it was gdnship papers BM asked GeneM to sign?
This info below is from Oct 2 PrEvil w Dr Phil w PrEvil as guests

** From promo vid clip, Dr Phil w P/Evil hosts (at three dots... 'open transcript' starting at 04:03 min)
Dr Phil reading aloud (mostly) from notes:
"One of the most disturbing things
I think that we uncovered pretty early
was this conversation that her husband had had
with Andy's father, Jean. [sic: should be Gene]
And you know,
this is an 87 year old man who's suffering from cancer
and he gets a phone call from his son-in-law
and he's basically said,
what was told to me
was that, "I loved your daughter
and I need you to sign some papers."
And basically it was the guardianship < Gdnship is not in quotes. Did Dr P or GeneM or AM assume?
and Jean essentially said,
"What do you mean you loved my daughter?
Where is she?
We're gonna find her."
And, "No I'm not signing any paperwork." bbm rbm

Did NG use this ^ clip today, or did she have fresh content?
If fresh, what min on her podcast? Supposed to be 11 min, but I got 38 min instead & tried to hear it all.
Yikes. I missed hearing about it.

Did Dr P, GeneM, or AM assume gdnship? Could papers have been for something else? Thx in adv.

 

[MassGuy]

What Papers did BM Ask GeneM to Sign? When?
@MassGuy
In listening to today's Nancy G you linked earlier, I missed any stmt re BM asking GeneM to sign papers.

Ulitmately, my Q is who said it was gdnship papers BM asked GeneM to sign?
This info below is from Oct 2 PrEvil w Dr Phil w PrEvil as guests

** From promo vid clip, Dr Phil w P/Evil hosts (at three dots... 'open transcript' starting at 04:03 min)
Dr Phil reading aloud (mostly) from notes:
"One of the most disturbing things
I think that we uncovered pretty early
was this conversation that her husband had had
with Andy's father, Jean. [sic: should be Gene]
And you know,
this is an 87 year old man who's suffering from cancer
and he gets a phone call from his son-in-law
and he's basically said,
what was told to me
was that, "I loved your daughter
and I need you to sign some papers."
And basically it was the guardianship < Gdnship is not in quotes. Did Dr P or GeneM or AM assume?
and Jean essentially said,
"What do you mean you loved my daughter?
Where is she?
We're gonna find her."
And, "No I'm not signing any paperwork." bbm rbm

Did NG use this ^ clip today, or did she have fresh content?
If fresh, what min on her podcast? Supposed to be 11 min, but I got 38 min instead & tried to hear it all.
Yikes. I missed hearing about it.

Did Dr P, GeneM, or AM assume gdnship? Could papers have been for something else? Thx in adv.

Chris starts talking about his conversation with Gene, at about the 25 second mark.

This was apparently a bonus podcast added several hours ago.

BREAKING: Did Suzanne Morphew Hubby speak of missing wife in past tense just after disappearance?

 

[Hoosierfan72]

Re: the notes that BM provided. Disclaimer: I'm no handwriting expert, so this is simply MOO.

I find it interesting that the lower two notes make specific references to their "long ago" love. When I read those, it makes me wonder if SM was trying to recapture something that wasn't there any longer? That was my impression as I read them - sort of a "I remember when you loved me, cared for me, were there for me...... do you remember BM?"

The top note is very different as it's more of a present tense. Also, if you look closely at the handwriting, there are some significant differences. The top note has exaggerated loops on the y's and g's (more so than the lower). The lower notes have very distinctive lower-case t's that the top note doesn't have. At first I thought maybe the top note was a forgery, but looking closely at it, I don't think so..... but I do think it was written in a different emotional state than the lower two notes. It makes me wonder if the top note is actually from some time ago and the lower notes are more recent.

All JMO, and not sure it matters much as I don't think SMs historical love for BM is in question - and I'd argue that even if she was talking about divorce, could be doing that while still "in love" with BM (but no longer willing to live with xxxx about him). I wonder if BM has a shoebox full of recent love letters he's written SM?

Something tells me that's extremely unlikely.

JMO, MOO.

 

[Flight154]

Wanted to add a tidbit about MG hearing BMs truck at her house. I am pretty sure I read that his truck is a diesel..... or "Powerstroke" since its a Ford, and its pretty new. I swear, I am getting to a point!

All diesels, the cummins, they duramax, and the powerstroke all have very different sounds. My boys can tell you what of the 3 is pulling up before they see it. Very distinctive.

Anyways, when a truck is still under warranty, and has stock exhaust you literally have a hard time hearing them run. The new ones are almost quieter than a car. When mine had factory exhaust on it, I used to catch heck all the time about it. Ie.... is that thing running lol. Then I put a 5 inch straight pipe with an 8 inch tip on it. First time it kicked into high idle in the winter time at the grocery story, workers ran out thinking an airplane was going to crash thru the store!!

I guess I'm having a real hard time believing that MG actually heard the truck BM was driving, pull up.

 

[Knox]

Time to get out of Dodge ?
Wonder if it's true that those two men approached her and told her she didn't have to give her phone records to LE ?
Maybe more than BM had a busy weekend ?
Imo.

What better way to explain the pbone records. Guess they could have powered them down or simply had no signal in the relevant timeframe between midnight and 4 am. Interesting thought.

 

[Colorado303]

I disagree with you. What's smart often has little to do with typical, human behavior.

His priorities are clear. Business is super important to him. You may think he's been searching behind the scenes but where are the large search parties he organized? Where are the search centers? Where are the fliers he has created? The countless interviews and please for someone to give us information?

But more than that, more than how this shows his priorities is what it said about whether, early on, he felt it likely she would walk through that door.

I know from personal experience that when a loved one is missing, hope doesn't die, even improbable hope, that quickly. You keep feeling they're going to walk through the door, or you'll get a call that it's all been a terrible mistake, or whatever.

But let's be clear - LE doesn't get a search warrant to excavate a third parties' property, damaging that property in the process, via a fishing expedition to "eliminate" possibilities. They need probable cause. And the probable cause necessary for something like that is arguably greater than what's necessary to search the victim's property.

And as to that, LE didn't search the victim and her husband's property not once, but twice, over a month apart, despite the fact that she supposedly disappeared while on a bike ride. That's more than just elimination, IMO. I could understand one search of a location for that purpose. Not two.

BBM

“Business is super important to him” yet he didn’t hesitate to hire “meth heads” to fix work he supposedly screwed up the first time. If they in fact are meth heads (or he thought they might be) he picked them for a reason. Just more proof IMO he was thinking ahead, to the degree he can w/that twisted brain of his. I feel terrible for everyone who cared about Suzanne, and what he’s putting his daughters through makes him a World Class Monster.

 

[charminglane]

I believe Suzanne had no idea what was coming.
IMO, he didn't want her to find something out and he took what he thought was the easiest route.
For himself, always.

 

[al66pine]

Not coming back???

Chris starts talking about his conversation with Gene, at about the 25 second mark.
This was apparently a bonus podcast added several hours ago.
BREAKING: Did Suzanne Morphew Hubby speak of missing wife in past tense just after disappearance?

@MassGuy
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Missed it, must have been adjusting my earbuds & volume.
Glad we got to hear that from the person who actually spoke w GeneM.
And per GeneM, BM actually said "guardianship" to him.
And per GeneM, BM even said (my close paraphrasing) --- It looks like she's not coming back.
And that was fairly early on.
Wowee zowee.

 

[tmar]

I actually think it was one of two different things, both of which involve him being spotted, and needing to come up with a plausible reason for being there:

He was disposing of evidence.

He made making sure that something he had previously disposed of, had in fact been removed (maybe Suzanne’s phone, or biking clothes he needed to get rid of to sell his narrative).

I agree that BM was disposing evidence not checking if it had been removed.
It is after market hours, knowing nobody would be about.
He was caught, surprised,
so comes up with the helmet story, and then writes a ridiculous 'last minute' note.

 

[swedeheart]

Re: the notes that BM provided. Disclaimer: I'm no handwriting expert, so this is simply MOO.

I find it interesting that the lower two notes make specific references to their "long ago" love. When I read those, it makes me wonder if SM was trying to recapture something that wasn't there any longer? That was my impression as I read them - sort of a "I remember when you loved me, cared for me, were there for me...... do you remember BM?"

The top note is very different as it's more of a present tense. Also, if you look closely at the handwriting, there are some significant differences. The top note has exaggerated loops on the y's and g's (more so than the lower). The lower notes have very distinctive lower-case t's that the top note doesn't have. At first I thought maybe the top note was a forgery, but looking closely at it, I don't think so..... but I do think it was written in a different emotional state than the lower two notes. It makes me wonder if the top note is actually from some time ago and the lower notes are more recent.

All JMO, and not sure it matters much as I don't think SMs historical love for BM is in question - and I'd argue that even if she was talking about divorce, could be doing that while still "in love" with BM (but no longer willing to live with xxxx about him). I wonder if BM has a shoebox full of recent love letters he's written SM?

Something tells me that's extremely unlikely.

JMO, MOO.

Definitely 3 different notes. Not only is the handwriting different on all 3, but the 2nd one is torn along the top edge, so it's only part of a longer letter. It's hard to tell if the 3rd one is torn along the top edge from these pics, but these 3 portions are not from one note. Different paper/stationary, too. So BM found a few love letters and clipped out the best parts to show the world. What a guy.

 

[PaulaDC]

The Bobcat has internal GPS as part of it's diagnostic systems, which cannot be defeated. IMO

Telematics Privacy Statement - Bobcat Company

I wonder if MG had an old pickup BM could have swapped his for. Maybe there's more to that stopping by at 4a.m. than we know.